I said this once in another video and I will say it again: Dumb Data is giving skateboarding the sports seriousness that it deserves when creating these analytics content. I know a lot of skateboarders prefer to not take it seriously and go for the more casual fun, but imo this pushes skateboarding to new levels and makes it super appealing for competitive people like you and me. If anything it also offers accountability to the results, and proves the criticism of the event or from the Berrics when it is due. Congrats on your channel Dumb Data, this is something not everyone can pull off👊
ive watched your videos for a while. i really appreciate you showing your spreadsheets and doing all this cataloging. my librarian mother would love you and i respect! good stuff!
Air Luan's a boss. Dude should bring his nollie and switch gazelle heelflips back into rotation. He'd finish everyone with those easily, like he did to Torey in Season 4. Plus they're just sick to watch.
Luan has a lot of switch tricks, and I don't think Jamie is very confortable with switch, at least, I feel like he struggles a lil with it... just like like I do....
I ve changed a bit in the last 4 years but before that, since i really got into skating(about 17 y ago), Luan has been an inspiration, from the time he was on ES, to wining Etnies GVR as total underdog, then Getting in FLIP, GLOBE.
For the record, Luan landed another fakie double flip perfect off camera, but it still took everything inside of me to not throw the challenge flag on him for that lol. It wouldn’t have mattered… but when you have a banner and BATB trophy, you shouldn’t let that heel touch slide. But then again, the batb7 champ said it was good so who am I to argue? 😂
eh idk.. impossibles are tricky to judge.. you can wrap the foot and still not get the under rotation of it.. and i think the under rotation is the more important thing.., rather that the foot staying tightly wrapped the whole time.. that one switch impossible still had enough vertical/under rotation to count imo but,, some ppl are more strict than others i guess.. and value different properties of a trick more than others
That’s just not what an impossible is tho, the key feature of an impossible is wrapping your foot, only place I see that not matter is video games. If you turn your board vertical without wrapping it isn’t an impossible
it has to do with what is spinning the board. a shuv is where you just pop it and the board does the rest - you just catch it when it comes around. an impossible is when you pop and then your foot stays on the board physically forcing it to wrap back around.
@@Devillionairebut to denounce someones trick for that back foot coming off for a sec.. seems harsh.. i think the verticality of it should atleast be considered..
@@debomb721Impossible has to do with the middle axis rotation (the 8 inch one). If the board rotate around the middle axis is an impossible. It is called in this way, by Mullen, because there is a physics theorem that state that this kind of rotation is almost impossible normally (in fact monster flips (impossible without touching the board) are quite impossible to land consistently). The foot wrapping just helps to rotate around the middle axis avoiding the physics theorem. A 360 shove it is another kind of trick because the board rotate around a different axis (orthogonal to the board surface). There is a Mullen interview with physics girl that explains what an impossible is. Then we can discuss if a trick is determined by the movement of the board alone (so monster and impossible are equivalent, such as pressure and invert heel) or also by the feet of the skater (in that monster and impossible have to be considered different tricks). But this is another kind of issue, very difficult to judge because often is not a binary output, there can be a continuum spectrum of configuration in between (remaining with the monster/impossible flips example the wrapping could be just for 10% of the rotation of for the 90% or anything in between), the issue become very subjective.
@@supermarcoa fair fair, if Rodney himself says it’s contingent on only it going vertical, then I’d say the foot wrap is not necessary However, in response to the original poster, it’s a berrics game of skate and the rules for the berrics say if an impossible wraps, the other person has to wrap
I’m almost thinking the upset is gonna be Zach Vs Griffen. Zach is hungry AF and I could absolutely see him grinding Jamie down with all of the basic variations over time.
@@robguevara7Boring to you maybe. If dudes miss the tricks they miss the tricks. Some of us prefer normal tricks over the insane one off acrobat tricks that look horrendous on camera. Notice everyone loves Olivera and yet he doesn’t do those ridiculous magic tricks Jamie does
@@allstopblue5717 Imaging comparing Luan to Zach 😂 And I never said I liked the crazy tricks, it's just that, that strategy to go all basic might be great, but it's boring for the most part of the game.
@@allstopblue5717u like see one same trick on all variation?) what about - regular switch fakie nollie + frontside, backside, revert for all stupid basic trick on pro level?) I prefer look at hardflip 180, forward flip, lazer flip, 360 big heel, late flip
Thinking Silva should have been a lock against Malto is a critical hit to your credibility. Thinking Silva didn’t take it seriously because there wasn’t a real judge and otherwise would have demolished (his good friend) Malto is just the icing on this shit take cake.
The first time someone asked me who my favorite skater was, I said Luan first and then a list of others cuz it’s hard to choose. Can’t beat nollie hardflip nose slide nollie hardflip
that speed and high pop is the weakpoint. Tricks with more flips like double flips 540 flips double 360 flips etc so basicly Griffins's specialities are much harder to do like that
If we see how them Cariumas worked for Gustavo, Kelvin or Jagger... I hope it does some good to him too. Luan is still my favorite skater. I hope he beats Jamie on round 3. Leo Romero doesn't stand a chance against Luan. Neeeext...
Your lack of confidence in nick holt my boi. Nick will win that corner of the bracket and will be there at finals night. Just my prediction though ya never know.
greetings everyone! finally a brazilian on my favorite skate channel! just as you produced a video about Japanese skateboarding, make a video telling a little about the history of Brazilian skateboarding! we've been winning tournaments and respect in the world of skateboarding for years. we have names like Bob burnquist, lincon ueda, luan oliveira, sandro dias, Letícia bufoni, Rayssa leal, pamela rosa, carlos ribeiro, pedro barros Giovanni Viana etc etc etc there are more than 40 years of history.
hey man, what about his most hard trick ever attempted( in my opinion) that switch bigger heel with one more spin ( biggest?) against torey Pudwill. nobody ever did or tryed that trick again
A lotta people call that a switch gazelle heelflip. Board spins 540 and body spins 360. Luan has had switch/nollie gazelle heels on lock since he was kid, but for whatever reason never seems to use them anymore in modern games. (Definitely a mistake - he would be killing Sewa/Cody/Joslin with those.) The only other person I think who ever did that in a BATB game was Davis Torgerson vs. Shane O'neill in season 4. Davis finished Shane off with a nollie gazelle heel ender.
I love a closer look at the data involved in BATB but I think the skaters aren't looking this closely at what they need to do going in. They just go there and hope for a win trying to pull of their tricks consistently.
and UFC started with sumo wrestlers fiighting karate guys. maybe eventually we will have SKATE skaters, similar to how there are skaters who could be said to skate tournament style. comp skaters all start drifting towards skating the same way
Its interesting to hear the stats but your opinions are so strange sometimes. Like how you said "Mason wasn't trying cause of the ref and if he did try he would of won" 😂 Like where do you get that kind of opinion from? It looked like he was trying but hes just not a big flatground guy. And Malto has already proved he's not the best but hes pretty damn good at flat.
@@dumbdata34 Yeah but he's not very good at basic switch tricks and he's always had somewhat easy games up until playing Malto. I think he was trying bro. Go back and watch his old games. Mason misses a lot of basic stuff. You should do some stats on him if you get a chance. He's one of my favorite skaters btw. I just don't think flatground is something he cares about very much.
I can think of 50 people in skateboarding today who seem to need and seek attention, but Andy Anderson isn’t one of them. He’s not cripplingly shy, but mostly just seems to have fun and work hard on stuff. Now, he certainly Receives a lot of attention because people treat his extreme competence across a uniquely broad base of tricks as some kind of curiosity, and has become a celebrated (and scorned) pro for it, but that’s not what an attention-needy person looks like.
Andy likes to put on a show. His run at Tampa Pro went way past time (to thunderous applause) and his park run at the Olympics ended with that whole freestyle routine. I dunno if you call that a "need for attention" but Andy's definitely a showman, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all.
@@Devillionaire Exactly, and that’s the difference. - Tampa is famously the contest where the MC will yell to “KEEP GOING!” or “ONE MORE!”, and I wouldn’t say that every skater who obliges therefore “seeks attention”, as that would include other obvious introverts as well - the Olympics thing was a proof of freestyle several years in the planning, something Nigel Alexander talks about in his recent Nine Club, recounting hundreds of hours of filming practice for that exact run, mostly in near-solitude with no attention for anybody. So the final performance at the olympics wasn’t a euphoric embrace of attention, but a message 2 years in the making.
I think mixing up the bracket a little better would have been smarter. (Never said this competition was known for it’s smarts) The way they have all the strongest skaters on the right side is going to lead to a easy win for whatever skater can make it to the finals from the right side of the bracket. Having Sewa play Jamie first round was a poor choice on the berrics behalf. A real lose/ lose for the spectator. Why can’t we just place first round skaters based on a seeding process similar to other sports instead of this random hodgepodge or pulling names out of a hat.
It’s funny how down on Andy’s skating you are😂 seems every video in this series you’ve got something negative to say about him. Dudes not after attention, he’s just having fun and loves freestyle
im old school street skate im 39 skated in the 90s so luan for me isnt the kind of skating i like he seems like a really nice guy but besides that im just not a fan of his style
I said this once in another video and I will say it again: Dumb Data is giving skateboarding the sports seriousness that it deserves when creating these analytics content. I know a lot of skateboarders prefer to not take it seriously and go for the more casual fun, but imo this pushes skateboarding to new levels and makes it super appealing for competitive people like you and me. If anything it also offers accountability to the results, and proves the criticism of the event or from the Berrics when it is due.
Congrats on your channel Dumb Data, this is something not everyone can pull off👊
Couldn’t have said it better!!
"I just want to go fast and do tricks" - Luan Oliveira
watching Luan skate is a thing of beauty
ive watched your videos for a while. i really appreciate you showing your spreadsheets and doing all this cataloging. my librarian mother would love you and i respect! good stuff!
this isn't cataloging this is data analysis.
before even starting the video: take a second to appreciate that this is nearly double longer than the video on Jamie
Hes competed in like 5x more batb tournments so there is far more statistics.
I presume you mean "almost twice the duration"?😊
can we get the statistics on the amount of raised hand claps Luan does per match? could there be a correlation between wins and this factor??
thats just him being the politest skater
6.9 claps
😭😭
Sounds like Luan messed with the audio there to hide his weaknesses, at 14:55 😂
The trick name is thashifsnorfssenshennavi
This a newly-minted dumb data certified hood classic
Air Luan's a boss. Dude should bring his nollie and switch gazelle heelflips back into rotation. He'd finish everyone with those easily, like he did to Torey in Season 4. Plus they're just sick to watch.
Man, what a great job doing all these videos 🔥
as long as luan doesnt watch this he’s throwin paper - 20$
I'm pulling for luan again this season, one of my faves. Either way the jamie vs luan match will be a worthwhile watch. Good stuff DD!
Luan has a lot of switch tricks, and I don't think Jamie is very confortable with switch, at least, I feel like he struggles a lil with it... just like like I do....
Same, my top 3 are Chris cole, joslin n luan
@@vperkv6554 saaaame, the Chris's are my guys right after luan. To see Cole win it would be fantastic
I ve changed a bit in the last 4 years but before that, since i really got into skating(about 17 y ago), Luan has been an inspiration, from the time he was on ES, to wining Etnies GVR as total underdog, then Getting in FLIP, GLOBE.
This is my favorite channel on CZcams
You know you’re an adult when this becomes exciting 🥵
that BRASIL connection is stronk!
17:50 Cariuma sponsorship going next level having skaters legally change their name for stronger branding
These breakdowns are so good!! Thanks for the effort and deep dives
i wish you would do a whole series on luan's batb career. nothing too specific, just take some time to collectivelly swoon over his abilities.
For the record, Luan landed another fakie double flip perfect off camera, but it still took everything inside of me to not throw the challenge flag on him for that lol. It wouldn’t have mattered… but when you have a banner and BATB trophy, you shouldn’t let that heel touch slide. But then again, the batb7 champ said it was good so who am I to argue? 😂
made me snapchat rewind "even the switch front three shuv" lmao
I'm really hoping Luan wins the Rochambeau and beats Jamie Griffin so Jamie can't do his impossible on him
there’s so many potentional good match ups. luan vs jamie is one of them
@@instaplutoriannn2987I don't know about that If Jamie does his impossible variations on him it would be kind of whack
Lmao this is the most CZcams skate comment i’ve ever seen
Trippin…Don’t doubt L’s ability to learn any tricks that are humanly possible
@@josephstalin7767 bro called him “L” like they’re friends lmaooooo
Giger should binge all of your videos and moneyball his way to a first BATB win next year + maybe go all the way.
Giger should not be asked back. He’s not cut out for this. Clearly
I think Giger has the skills but not the contest attitude or experience needed.
I love these videos, it sounds like you’re talking about video game stats. So sick. Like something I’d watch about Pokémon or something.
This is my favourite kind of autism
When SKATE is in the olympics, this channel will reach millions of people.
looking forward to some post facto just-so story analysis of this excellent rock-paper-scissors strategy advice - keep up the good work!
Here for the RPS analysis
These thumbnails look so dope, I'd totally want one on a skate deck
These videos are great. Who would have known I wanted to watch this content?? 😅🤙
9:20 - 9:45 this aint a theory these is facts
Doing the Lord’s work
He already beat him self for leaving Nike for cairuma
eh idk.. impossibles are tricky to judge.. you can wrap the foot and still not get the under rotation of it.. and i think the under rotation is the more important thing.., rather that the foot staying tightly wrapped the whole time.. that one switch impossible still had enough vertical/under rotation to count imo but,, some ppl are more strict than others i guess.. and value different properties of a trick more than others
That’s just not what an impossible is tho, the key feature of an impossible is wrapping your foot, only place I see that not matter is video games. If you turn your board vertical without wrapping it isn’t an impossible
it has to do with what is spinning the board. a shuv is where you just pop it and the board does the rest - you just catch it when it comes around. an impossible is when you pop and then your foot stays on the board physically forcing it to wrap back around.
@@Devillionairebut to denounce someones trick for that back foot coming off for a sec.. seems harsh.. i think the verticality of it should atleast be considered..
@@debomb721Impossible has to do with the middle axis rotation (the 8 inch one). If the board rotate around the middle axis is an impossible. It is called in this way, by Mullen, because there is a physics theorem that state that this kind of rotation is almost impossible normally (in fact monster flips (impossible without touching the board) are quite impossible to land consistently). The foot wrapping just helps to rotate around the middle axis avoiding the physics theorem. A 360 shove it is another kind of trick because the board rotate around a different axis (orthogonal to the board surface). There is a Mullen interview with physics girl that explains what an impossible is.
Then we can discuss if a trick is determined by the movement of the board alone (so monster and impossible are equivalent, such as pressure and invert heel) or also by the feet of the skater (in that monster and impossible have to be considered different tricks). But this is another kind of issue, very difficult to judge because often is not a binary output, there can be a continuum spectrum of configuration in between (remaining with the monster/impossible flips example the wrapping could be just for 10% of the rotation of for the 90% or anything in between), the issue become very subjective.
@@supermarcoa fair fair, if Rodney himself says it’s contingent on only it going vertical, then I’d say the foot wrap is not necessary
However, in response to the original poster, it’s a berrics game of skate and the rules for the berrics say if an impossible wraps, the other person has to wrap
I love the dumb data!
that data is crazy, congrats on the work
SOURCE (S): Trust me bro.
8:30 if you speak Portuguese you can hear Luan saying to Felipe it was a ss 360 shuvit
I’m almost thinking the upset is gonna be Zach Vs Griffen. Zach is hungry AF and I could absolutely see him grinding Jamie down with all of the basic variations over time.
I bet that'll be his strategy again and it'll be super boring again
@@robguevara7Boring to you maybe. If dudes miss the tricks they miss the tricks. Some of us prefer normal tricks over the insane one off acrobat tricks that look horrendous on camera. Notice everyone loves Olivera and yet he doesn’t do those ridiculous magic tricks Jamie does
@@allstopblue5717 Imaging comparing Luan to Zach 😂
And I never said I liked the crazy tricks, it's just that, that strategy to go all basic might be great, but it's boring for the most part of the game.
@@allstopblue5717u like see one same trick on all variation?) what about - regular switch fakie nollie + frontside, backside, revert for all stupid basic trick on pro level?)
I prefer look at hardflip 180, forward flip, lazer flip, 360 big heel, late flip
@@robguevara7Imagine how long the video would be if he does all the basics in one go and Berra reads the rules AND is the ref
14:53 nice trick thashifsnorfssenshennavi
If AI analyses all of these spread sheets, we don't even need to watch the games anymore. We will have the results right away.
Thinking Silva should have been a lock against Malto is a critical hit to your credibility. Thinking Silva didn’t take it seriously because there wasn’t a real judge and otherwise would have demolished (his good friend) Malto is just the icing on this shit take cake.
Yeah dude I’m in shambles over here
The first time someone asked me who my favorite skater was, I said Luan first and then a list of others cuz it’s hard to choose. Can’t beat nollie hardflip nose slide nollie hardflip
drink with him the night before
Lol the switch heel he thought was bad
Luan is always my favorite pal
that speed and high pop is the weakpoint. Tricks with more flips like double flips 540 flips double 360 flips etc so basicly Griffins's specialities are much harder to do like that
wtf is that trick at the end of the video? i don't even know what to call it. switch gazelle heelflip?
This is insanity lol
Berrics should hire you to track data for future bracket seeding. But then again, this tournament isn't THAT serious, right? .... Right??
That fs flip was too good. Landing with over spinned body.
I’m curious if you also have stats on the refs
Not enough info and too inconsistent honestly
in other words, you need born either as Chris, Cody or maybe Griffin
luan has switch frontfoot impossible 180
U are a gift to skateboarding
I love these videos so much
Your vids are sick, really like them. Have you thought about using AI to pull out some really interesting connections/predictions?
You should gather global statistics on how letter correlates to defense/offense landing percentages.
18:01 most beautiful flat trick
You should do a WBATB analysis
and 'acidentally' drop some loose ball bearings .......
the statistics are interesting! but.... luans lookin a bit thicc lately and to top things off he wearing those goofy ass cariumas
The thiccer the better
he thicc
Bruh don't be a sheep ass hater. Guys a pro making his bag, and everyone ages lol he didn't do bad last season
I've always wondered whether Luan's pop helps him be consistent. More time in the air to complete the trick?
Zach and Andy Last match
Luan vs Griffin (if it happens) is my prediction for game of the tournament
See I disagree if Jamie gets to start, because he'll just throw out his weird tricks to end it soon. Now if Luan starts...
I go with Tyler vs Joslin
I go with Tyler vs Joslin
yeah Luan will skate 15mph for every trick and pop 2 feet high and Jamie will skate 1mph and pop 2 inches. blegh.
What if Luan watched this and finds a way to encounter his weakness 😂
Let’s see how those Cariuma shoes work out for him this season
If we see how them Cariumas worked for Gustavo, Kelvin or Jagger... I hope it does some good to him too. Luan is still my favorite skater. I hope he beats Jamie on round 3. Leo Romero doesn't stand a chance against Luan. Neeeext...
Your lack of confidence in nick holt my boi. Nick will win that corner of the bracket and will be there at finals night. Just my prediction though ya never know.
Daniel Ledermann got snubbed
Hahaha very informative video but I think the only way you'll ever beat luan is if you break his legs before the game 😂😂😂
His switch is up what are you talking about
It's literally stats dude, those are the numbers
at least 2ft of pop
it would be crazy to have pop height in the spreadsheet '))
there is a battle with mosse i think, luan won with only inward tricks or hardaflips, if i remember it well....pretty intense
PJ beat Moose with inward heels season 6, with Luan it was prolly hard flips
@@dumbdata34 Moose had all the hardflips. PJ exploited him with inward heels, and Luan exploited him with varial flips.
greetings everyone! finally a brazilian on my favorite skate channel! just as you produced a video about Japanese skateboarding, make a video telling a little about the history of Brazilian skateboarding! we've been winning tournaments and respect in the world of skateboarding for years. we have names like Bob burnquist, lincon ueda, luan oliveira, sandro dias, Letícia bufoni, Rayssa leal, pamela rosa, carlos ribeiro, pedro barros Giovanni Viana etc etc etc there are more than 40 years of history.
bro, can't leave Rodrigo TX off that list. the OG! And Tiago Lemos is a boss too.
I dont reckon Leo Romero is going down without a fight
7:24 *1 five flip
hey man, what about his most hard trick ever attempted( in my opinion) that switch bigger heel with one more spin ( biggest?) against torey Pudwill. nobody ever did or tryed that trick again
Technically I think it’s the switch heel body varial revert he did to win the championship 11. But the switch bigger heel is similarly rare
A lotta people call that a switch gazelle heelflip. Board spins 540 and body spins 360. Luan has had switch/nollie gazelle heels on lock since he was kid, but for whatever reason never seems to use them anymore in modern games. (Definitely a mistake - he would be killing Sewa/Cody/Joslin with those.) The only other person I think who ever did that in a BATB game was Davis Torgerson vs. Shane O'neill in season 4. Davis finished Shane off with a nollie gazelle heel ender.
@@Devillionaire moose did one regular against Chris Cole too
Do you have a background in statistics?
The only way to beat Luan......is to be Jamie Grifiin. theres my 3 second video. done.
I hope round 2 is already filmed so they cant use this grand scheme to cheat.
Its strategy not cheating
The only possible way to beat Luan is by shaving his moustache.
Zach will upset Jaime G. -- Luan Oliveira vs Cody Cepeda in the finals. It's what it says in the Almanac.
Right now, Holt, Cole, and Griffin are my top picks.
Commenting so u get more $
There is really no way to beat Luan in skate, u just hope he somehow miss the trick
I love a closer look at the data involved in BATB but I think the skaters aren't looking this closely at what they need to do going in. They just go there and hope for a win trying to pull of their tricks consistently.
and UFC started with sumo wrestlers fiighting karate guys. maybe eventually we will have SKATE skaters, similar to how there are skaters who could be said to skate tournament style. comp skaters all start drifting towards skating the same way
tbh bab destroyed something in skateboarding.
just like street leauge. its a sport now.
it lost its flair.
Brasil #1
Broo Zach is going to destroy Luan
He won't even beat Jamie.
@@sbshoemaker5768 it all depends on the ro shan bo
is luan the best skater in the entire world?
I'd rather see Luan popping high af a ss 360 at 60mph than Jamie doing the most complicated shit cleaning the berrics floor
What does mean "ELO"?
Scoring system named after a chess grandmaster Arpad Elo.
@@dumbdata34 so how can I read It?
@@trickpeso highest elo scores are considered the best skaters
@@dumbdata34 and how is it calculated?
A series of formulas. I made a video about it a while ago called Sewa the savage
Its interesting to hear the stats but your opinions are so strange sometimes. Like how you said "Mason wasn't trying cause of the ref and if he did try he would of won" 😂 Like where do you get that kind of opinion from? It looked like he was trying but hes just not a big flatground guy. And Malto has already proved he's not the best but hes pretty damn good at flat.
Mason did a fakie 540 flip in season 9 on defense against Dashawn.
@@dumbdata34 Yeah but he's not very good at basic switch tricks and he's always had somewhat easy games up until playing Malto. I think he was trying bro. Go back and watch his old games. Mason misses a lot of basic stuff. You should do some stats on him if you get a chance. He's one of my favorite skaters btw. I just don't think flatground is something he cares about very much.
I can think of 50 people in skateboarding today who seem to need and seek attention, but Andy Anderson isn’t one of them. He’s not cripplingly shy, but mostly just seems to have fun and work hard on stuff.
Now, he certainly Receives a lot of attention because people treat his extreme competence across a uniquely broad base of tricks as some kind of curiosity, and has become a celebrated (and scorned) pro for it, but that’s not what an attention-needy person looks like.
Andy likes to put on a show. His run at Tampa Pro went way past time (to thunderous applause) and his park run at the Olympics ended with that whole freestyle routine. I dunno if you call that a "need for attention" but Andy's definitely a showman, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all.
@@Devillionaire Exactly, and that’s the difference.
- Tampa is famously the contest where the MC will yell to “KEEP GOING!” or “ONE MORE!”, and I wouldn’t say that every skater who obliges therefore “seeks attention”, as that would include other obvious introverts as well
- the Olympics thing was a proof of freestyle several years in the planning, something Nigel Alexander talks about in his recent Nine Club, recounting hundreds of hours of filming practice for that exact run, mostly in near-solitude with no attention for anybody. So the final performance at the olympics wasn’t a euphoric embrace of attention, but a message 2 years in the making.
I think mixing up the bracket a little better would have been smarter. (Never said this competition was known for it’s smarts) The way they have all the strongest skaters on the right side is going to lead to a easy win for whatever skater can make it to the finals from the right side of the bracket. Having Sewa play Jamie first round was a poor choice on the berrics behalf. A real lose/ lose for the spectator. Why can’t we just place first round skaters based on a seeding process similar to other sports instead of this random hodgepodge or pulling names out of a hat.
Cody Cepeda and Chris Cole are on the left side. Cody has beaten Luan twice. I think Luan would beat him next time, but just saying...
It’s funny how down on Andy’s skating you are😂 seems every video in this series you’ve got something negative to say about him. Dudes not after attention, he’s just having fun and loves freestyle
Totally! He is the most solid dude.
He doesn’t skate as he use to he much slower now
Lol true
Naa, that was an impossible he just wraps late. Pretty crazy looking 3shove if it is one...
That 540 didn’t count and is super easy
im old school street skate im 39 skated in the 90s so luan for me isnt the kind of skating i like he seems like a really nice guy but besides that im just not a fan of his style