Big Improvement Fix | How to Stop Micro Stuttering & Boost FPS Performance in MSFS 2020
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- čas přidán 7. 01. 2024
- One of the most exciting parts of flying, is the landing! However, recently my sim was encountering micro-stutters which really ruined the immersion and also made it difficult to land properly. In this video we take a look at a way to fix MSFS and remove the stutters so that it all works perfectly again.
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For my 4070 laptop the process is different since the glcache and Dxcahe folders are not in the same folder.
After going to the nvidia control panel and disabling the shader cache size, restart the PC. (If you do not restart you will not be able to delete the Dxcache folder files)
Find the Glcache folder in the /Local/Nvidia folder and do the deleting procedure.
Then go to the /Localnow/Nvidia folder where the Dxcache folder is located and do the deleting procedure.
The rest of the process shown by Gavin is the same.
Hope these help for the 4000 series card.
That's great - thank you.
hi, I have a 3070 but I can't find the Dxcahe folder. I have never activated dx 12, is this the reason?
thanks!
@@DavidFernandez08 had the same issue as you but I have an RTX 3080 I found the folder in LocalLow folder
@ramonzavala1869 I think you have a typo - it should be "LocalLow" and not "LocalNow", but otherwise thanks 🙂
Tip: Before manually deleting the Nivida shader cache files, boot Windows into Safe Mode beforehand. This will allow access to all files in the cache directories whereas normal Windows mode might lock certain files that are in use at the time.
Had bad stuttering in VR, which is a worse experience than on screen, and after following these instructions now it's smooth. Thank you so much!!
I use a AMD RX 6700 XT graphics card but some of the steps helped me a lot as I land often in Lisbon airport.
Very smooth approach last night.
Thank you very much.
Another excellent video by Easyjet! Every time I have a problem or a question about the sim I always come to you, thank you so much for the tips!
Fanboy!
I've been scratching my head for months trying to figure out what caused the stuttering (and it really was like a slide show on some landings) because I have a very good GPU and CPU. After following your tutorial I am now 100% stutter free! Thank you so much! You're a legend. :) :) :)
Followed what you said in your video and can confirm mine finally no longer stutters and runs miles better .Thank you 😊😊
Thanks Gav, I've been suffering from these stutters for ages, particularly with the Fenix A320. Will give these a try!
Thank you for making this video, I had the same problem, when approaching Lisbon airport, and I didn't know why. Thank you again.❤
Nobody cares
Thank you so much for this tutorial, all because I thought my PC was losing performance, and now it works perfect again
Thank you for this guide. I have not been affected by this problem until today. Today these small micro-bounces suddenly appeared on two landing approaches. I have now followed all the steps and hope for a satisfactory solution.
Thanks Gav! As usual great video. Super helpful and eliminated all my stutters.
Smooth as silk now into Seattle! Great tutorial, A++
this is good to know, I experienced the stutters going into the same Portugal airport this weekend. ill test tonight and report back
Thank you for this video. I only have stutters when I have the simbridge on to display the terrain, but if I disconnected it, I Have a smooth flight. Once again thank you, keep up the good working . Carlos.
That’s always me on the busy airports!😩
Amazing tips! My shader cache size is set to unlimited and still works too!
Thank you very much, sir! I use this video every time I encounter this problem!
Thank you! Thank you! I was almost at the point I was thinking that I had a virus or malware slowing down my pc. I will dive in it when I've got time.
Those weren't micro stutters before you cleared out your cache... they were full-blown stutters. The micro-stutters became apparent after you applied all of the fixes.
Exactly!
correct but hes never going to say ms2020 is still the bugfest its always been some 3 years in.
Agree, those were full blown stutters...when it's stated "no stutters" anymore, that is when I see "micro" stutters; it's not "nice and smooth", sorry to say. Yes, it's an improvement, but it's not a fix/solution :( ...
Thanks for making a video on this! I was having those exact issues. Barely any frame drops throughout the flight but as soon as I was about to touchdown, the framerate stuttered and made landing almost impossible. Gonna try these steps, cheers!
Hope it helps.
Hey, I want to know if this helped because I have the same issue?
@@magicplaysRBLX There's a definite improvement; only happens at the really demanding airports now.
I did not know "gonna" was a word. Maybe you should try going back to school?
@@Zakk900 What is your problem?
This was so helpful! Thank you so much! Completely solved the issue
Thank you for this video! My flights around L.A. are smooth again.
Thank you, Gavin. Smooth as silk landing at KLAX with FSTL after applying your steps to remove the stutters.
Glad it helped!
Thanks Gavin, great tip! There is a more thorough way to delete/update Rolling Cache: Rolling Cache OFF> Apply&Save>Delete>Apply&Save>Rolling Cache ON. It will then fully rebuild. That rebuild takes around 20 sec. Again thanks for the tip, it''s an annoying issue.
This is incredible. I went from Medium Graphic Settings with stutters to ultra with vfx mod without any stutters or lags. Thank you so much!
I tried this today, my PC must be a bit different but I managed to search the DXCache and delete, there was an improvement in general but I still had some stutters on the first attempted landing, the next couple seemed smoother, I will keep monitoring how it goes. Always appreciate anything that improves anything causing stutters.
Excellent, I’ve been having this exact problem (with an RTX 3060Ti/5800X3D) tried various things, so fingers crossed…
Thanks for the video, I'm having these really bad at the moment.
I've been getting something similar to this, only on a much far bigger scale, with very heavy stutters, glitching, even stalling, especially at the busier airports, in particular Heathrow; I'll be following this advice soon, see how that helps
Yep the stuttering is happening for me too on the 4070ti. Look forward to trying this fix as it was unplayable on approach.
Thank you so much! I will try this out later
Gav, Kudos to your efforts🎉 and support to the community. This is a real problem - mirco- stutters for me become macro stutters at times. Will definitely try the solution. 👍🏼
A quick update.... Tried but didn't work for me. 😢
2020fs'ers posted a video about this 10 days ago. Works like a charm!
Thanks for the video I’m going to give this a go on my weekend it’s just frustrating that we have to do this manually and it’s not taken care of by the sim
Thanks brother. Still stutters a little but this helped tremendously.
Hi Gavin
Great video top man on following up and sharing this correction
👍
Thanks 👍
I tried this, and it works well. My sim runs smooth as silk now.
Excellent Tips, thanks a lot :D
I once asked, 'What should I do to fix stuttering?' and someone from Microsoft replied, 'Lower your settings.' I'm sorry, but if I consistently get 40-50fps, even in larger cities, why should I lower my settings? My CPU and GPU aren't even fully utilized, my RAM is only half full, and my VRAM too. Additionally, my SSD is plenty fast. It sounds like an optimization issue to me, not a hardware overload issue, and this proves my point.
it is a hardware overload issue. just because you get a nice framerate most of the time, i dont know why you think that means there will never be any slowdowns. i play at low settings on an ancient laptop getting around 20 fps and i dont have stutters.
Hello, thanks for this info! I just actually heard about it on Overkills channel so I thought Id give a like and subscribe to say thank you!
First thanks a lot for your video, i appreciate your channel. Second, just have a question about the Cache folders. I only have the GLCache, dont have the DXCache, although have a folder named "NvBackend", should i delete something in that one? or where can i find the DXCache? many thanks, keep the good work!
It helped me! Thanks a lot!
Never had this kind of matter with my venerable old GTX 970... And I am very happy with my graphics (1920x1200) that are almost all at High. This card is really doing miracles 😊. However am using A32NX and not Fenix aircraft. But either VFR and IFR flights are pretty beautiful for me. Happy.
Interesting... which is your CPU?
Always good tips for graphically intense games like MSFS -- It's likely that doing this before or just after major game updates can eliminate lots of leftover data that the game keeps dragging along. Combine this with the Auto FPS mod and we'll have totally smooth sailing/flying!
Thank you Gavin !!!
Great video as always. Wondering if these steps work with vr. I don't have that bad stuttering but in vr every stutter feels worst than in the screen 😂
SU14 totally killed performance on my computer. Don't know if that contributed to the stutters you were experiencing. Going to try out this fix later today, thanks for the video!
Another thing that can cause performance issues is virtualization. If you have it turned on (you should know if you have) try turning it off, it helped me alot.
Thank you so much !!!
really nice!! thank you! :D
THE biggest roadblock in MSFS when it comes to performance is traffic. No matter how much you optimize the sim, you will experience stutters and abysmal 1% lows due to CPU bottlenecking when flying on VATSIM and there's more than 10 airplanes (unless you own a 5800x3d or better). Unfortunately, there's not many people who notice these stutters while on VATSIM.
I will make sure I will give this a try :)
Thank you
delete and disable rolling cache was the solution for me
Went from 1 to ~25 fps on approach to Lisbon, while increasing my sliders from high/ultra to max! Fix worked, thank you so much!
Very useful for me, it works well
It worked thank you so much
Absolute lifesaver
Thanks for this, does it also work for frame freezing ?
Great video. I don't have stutter problem but the sim freese for a minute or two once in a while...
In addition to the disc cleanup, I do the following: Win+R - Type temp - OK - Delete all - next: Win+R - type %temp% - OK - Delete all - next and last Win+R - type prefetch - OK - Delete all .That's it
Dynamic LOD helps these issues immensely
Yep, I discovered that today. Great tool! Solves all my taxi, approach & landing issues with the Fenix on big airports and cities. Thanks for the tip!
I usually does this "cleanup". The thing that gave me the most FPS and smoothnes has been the frame generation "hack" on my 3070 card. After I applied this, I went from 30+ (sometimes lower) to 60+ fps, which does that I can now go into larger add on airports without getting below 30 fps anymore. This is in both Fenix and iniBuilds A300.
I have a 3070 too. Could you please link to info about that hack. Thank you!
How about the VRAM usage? I think for frame generation you have to use DX12 in MSFS, right? I remember when I tried DX12 I had severe VRAM issues and therefore never used it. Thats whats holding me back from testing the mod right now.
Also dx12 has a long-standing issue where the bing maps textures come through the airport textures, even for payware airports
I have a 3070 too. I tired the frame hack you mentioned, works well but after about 10-15 mins I get major frame stutters whenever I move the cam. Do you get that?
@@leonw.8855DX12 uses double the amount of VRAM you use at time in the sim, I’ve tried the frame hack. Does work but seems to have limitations if you’re using a 8gb graphics card
thank you for your advice. I ve done that many times, but it seems to be only a temporary solution. You have to repeat the steps many times.My only usable solution is: Reducing TLOD and OLOD (there is a nice small program called "DynamicLOD" or do manually in MSFS Graphics Menu. Set all settings to medium.Swich off " Photogrammetry in "Data" menu. Switch off "motion Blur" in Graphics Menü. I have switched off Anisotrophic Filterin in MSFS but swiched it on to 8x8 in Nvidea settings. Also I set power management in Nvidea panel to MAX. There is no 100 % working solution but that is, whats improving it in my case.
In all fairness, he did say you have to repeat the steps if stutters start to come back.
Mine always stutters especially into EGLL and KJFK but tbf I have both iniBuilds sceneries for these.
Great video. What about those using AMD?
Thanks it help what you say in your video. Just a question, should rolling Cache activat, and when yes how big should the cache. I have up to 400 GB availible.
Thanks
I have those stuttering with the last update and made it impossible to play. Im going to try your fix and let you know. EDIT: It works!! all back to normal, smooth flying again, thanks!! BTW I don´t have the dx folder, only the gl. My card is 1080ti, may have to do with that?
Have you had a look into the dynamic lod addon? That also might help with approaches, though, at a cost of temporarily reduced lod.
What’s this add on do?
@@bigderpenergy7106 It automatically adjusts the object LOD depending on your altitude AGL (you set all values in the config). It can also temporarily reduce object LOD if your framerate gets below a threshold value that you define.
I have been usung dynamica LOD for a white now and it is great. No more stuttering during taxi , take off and approach.. Maybey Gavin can pick that up as well
Do you use any Nvidia game filters? The colours in your sim look SO good, compared to mine, even though i'm pretty sure we have similar settings.
None at all 👍
The way I managed to stop stutters was to move the MSFS Cache location to a separate drive other than C. That worked really well.
Hi, how did u do that ? Just cut en past it in an another drive ?
You can change it in MSFS settings under Data.
A thing i noticed was, that these micro stutters can also appear when your pc can not handle the setting: Terrain level of detail. This setting can be changed from 10 (i think) to 400. If you put it all the way to 400, and dont have a very strong pc, it will lag worse then you would play this flight sim on a Nintendo switch. But if you change the setting to something like 75 it will not lag, it wont annoye, and you will have a good flight sim session.
(Btw terrain level of detail changes how good things are rendered in the distance. So if you put it to the max you will see detail of the terrain from very far, but if you put it to the minimum, your terrain will look like mashed potatoes
Very true. I haven't changed any MSFS settings for quite some time.
Yup reducing Terrain and object level of detail is the setting with the most impact for cpu main thread limited PCs. Often forgotten but very important!
I had this happen when i tried to go from 200 to 300, but I have an RTX 4090, and an i9-13900k. That's about the best money can buy at the moment and I was surprised it was still not enough.
@@NyctaOfficial I have also a 4090, but paired with 7800X3D and it can handle 300 really well most of the time (I don't use frame generation, Asobo's DX12 implementation is still too wonky for my taste). MSFS's engine profits massively from the large L3 cache of the X3D CPUs. I really hope that MSFS 2024 will have a much better optimization for multi-threaded operation. The current engine is way too limited by the main thread. Eagle Dynamics showed with the rewritten DCS engine, what is possible in this regard. 50% to 100% more fps with an update is just impressive. Hopefully Asobo can achieve something similar.
I use Dynamic LOD to address this issue.
Thank you ❤ great video, I will try tonight, one question please tell me all airports code in your video specially 5.04 min in video
I did the same,and indeed wunderfull landings,no stutters.
Hi and thanks for this video!!! Question: If we should keep clearing rolling cache as part of this process, why bother having rolling cache enabled? Does that not defeat the purpose of the rolling cache?
Rolling cache is great for people whose Internet isn't too good as it can store files on the users PC rather than having to stream them as they fly.
Thanks🌹🌹🌹
How often do you have to do this? In my NVIDIA folder I onky had the GLCache folder. Thanks for your help!
Did you test it using the Fenix A320? I notice the aircraft in your video is not the Fenix A320...
Hi Gav, very useful video today, i was wondering if you were planning on trying the dlss mod for 30 series graphics cards. i have a pc with basically the same specs as yours and it was a total game changer for me. would love to hear your opinion about it
The DLSS Frame Generation mod along with the DynamicLod app is an absolute game changer
@@Poseidon6363 facts
@@AlexdAviator Yep, facts
What dlss mod??? (I have a 3060ti and use taa as the dlss option in msfs seems to be useless)
@@Termite5656 it's not that, it's a whole separate mod that enables the dlss available on the new 40 series GPUs also on the 30 series. I'll send you a link to a video that explains the installation process in a second
There are further steps which can be taken which not only get rid of stutters but also improve general fps performance, such as making sure your DLSS version is the latest possible which was a huge one for me, I went from between 30-60fps at La Guardia to 90 just doing that one thing alone. Turns out my DLSS3 capable system was using DLSS v2.4 even though I had DLSS3 enabled. FIgure that one out. Something very wrong there. Anyway, people should try that one if they haven't yet, it's straight up like getting a GPU upgrade for free.
Then there's enabling reBAR, which is said to give you an extra 5-10%, but honestly I didn't notice that much difference personally, but then you wouldn't really, would you. The improvements don't end with just this video's suggestions!
There's more than the ones I suggested too, but I'll leave you to find those ones on your own. The CZcams search field is your friend on this one.
How do you change the DLSS version you are using? Where does it show you the version currently being used?
In MSFS I see the option for DLSS etc but no idea if it's DLSS 2 or DLSS 3?
Ya, how do you change the DLSS version to the latest? Where does it show the current version?
@@andrewp6307DLSS SWAPPER. Just google search for that
@andewp6307 and @NR.2023, here is a good video on upgrading your DLSS version, czcams.com/video/hyJZ4djtuto/video.html
My studder problem seems specific to the FBW A320. which is really bad {stable pr development} Using other aircraft like Fenix or PMDG are as smooth as glass.
what could be the reason of not being able to find the Dxcache on a 4090 card? i was not able to find this folder...
update: i was now able to find it under: AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion
Impeccable, but do I have to repeat this after a while??
Thanks for making this videos. This issue is fixed, but I have an Internet Problem as well. Do someone know how to fix it, when the game says "it turn to offline mode"? I only have it in msfs2020 and I stream it at the same time and my stream is working fine.
Was having stutters recently after installing GSX, so began isolating the issue and sure enough it was GSX. Didnt make much sense to me since my stutters where on approach when gsx should not have been running. After uninstalling I have completed 4 flights with no issues. Really, mine were more than micro stutters….it was almost impossible to even land
Hmm...i have gsx as well.thanks
You can disable GSX pro within the settings menus after takeoff and at 10,000ft. Without complexity deleting GSX.
For AMD users, I've found that deleting the rolling cache and setting the framerates on AMD Control to 30-31fps resolved the stutters as well. Switch off all the other options as well on AMD.
The rolling cache has to be empty and disabled for all kind aof CPUs. This is common knowledge since shortly after MSFS was released in 2020. I actually have no idea for what and for what kindy system the rolling cache should be good for.
Deleting the Rolling Cache in MSFS should be done After each Sim-Update - I personally found out that this particular stuttering always appears after applying a new Sim-Update
Try increasing the shader cache size to 10gb in Nvidia settings.
You could set a scheduled task to delete said files to save you having yo do it yourself.
Nice video, I'll try this but what happens if you leave shader cache disabled in nVidia CP???
Thx
I find performance is never the same from one day to the next. Sometimes, it's flawless others a stuttering mess. I have a high end PC and graphics card (i9 13900k, 128GB and RTX4090)
Does this still work if you have an AMD card? (6700xt)
I fixed these by just deleting the Rolling Cache and turning it off altogether. I observed that this happened mostly on photogrammetry cities while landing. Disabling Rolling Cache permanently resolved it for me. Didn't do anything else.
I can still see the stutters in your video after the changes - it is improved as you say, but I can still see them.
That’s cause these types of videos are rather pointless as this can’t be fixed by us, it’s Asobo’s rubbish LOD code that’s at fault.
Dx cache is in a different location on the latest drivers just a heads up.
Gav, i tried clearing my cache a few months ago and it didn't do much. What screen resolution do you run the sim at and what CPU and GPU do you have? I'm running a 13900k + 4080 at 4k. I get fast FPS but the stutters were pretty bad into iniBuilds LHR in the Fenix with FSTraffic running. Mind you, i haven't tried it recently and not since sim updates 13 and 14. Might be better now.
I've got a graphics video on my channel showing all the settings etc.
@@Easyjetsimpilot I see you're only at 1080p resolution (pretty low). At 4k, clearing the cache didn't do an awful lot for me sadly. I get a massive several second long stutter on approach to LHR. I suspect it's when all the AI planes get loaded in.
Merci
I have the exact same issue and tried everything mentioned in this, but the problem remains annoyingly 😔 been an issue since SU14 beta that I can’t seem to resolve at all
I just turned off the MSFS 'Rolling Cache' forever and the stutters disappeared and never came back. Over a month of stutter free flying so far and no drop in performance or visual quality.
Do you run off an SSD, nVme or old style hard disk... maybe your machine is heavily using the disk while MSFS is running (anti viruses are notorious for this).
SSD@@johnmacward
I run FS2020 with a 3060ti with a 5900x. Even without those major stuttertings is it ideal to make this process or can it be risky o worse aomething thats corretly working?