Psytrance Kick: 3 + 3 Fundamentals for your Psytrance Kick design
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 16. 08. 2024
- A step by step tutorial, demonstrating the fundamental principals and some necessary points of attention during the design process of a Psytrance Kick.
This is not a tutorial on how to design a kick but rather what to look out for, during the process and why.
Production/Narration: Inner State / SounDirective
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Finally, someone actually explains the kick and bass relationship eloquently without an ego! Thank you!
Much appreciated!
hhh after Tristan tutorial
My god, how absurd the amount of details and examples used, even in color, was practically designed for anyone with no knowledge to understand...
this is absurd, I'm watching this video 3 years later, but this content is absurd, velocity of the explanation, the demonstrations, thank you for that, technical data, frequency demonstration, comparisons.... honestly, speechless for the free knowledge of sound design
Thank you so much !
Well, this answered a lot of questions I hadn't even asked yet, and rapidly helped me fix some problems with my sound design. So well done, thank you! What you did here should be the gold standard for how to present tutorials. Perfect!
thank you!
This is by far..! THE BEST Tutorial I've ever seen.
Thank you so much !!
Thank you so much for making a tutorial of this caliber, this is the kind of "secret science" stuff that takes many hours or years even of trial and error to formulate these ideas effectively. I wish all production tutorials were like this, thanks again.
Landeen thank you for your nice comment!
This is the best tutorial about kick I ever seen. Looking forward to new ones, subscribed already.
Daniil Lebedyntsev Thank you !! more coming up !
I just applied these principles to my kick and bass. This is collection of many subtle differences but the output is immensely improved. The sounds come out so much close to professional already.
I can just keep these foundations and let my creativity free without worrying about what is right or wrong. All the principles you told fit perfectly well within my logic and understanding of wave structure so I'm very happy to find your information. Thank you, for sharing your expertise and experience. :)
Thank you so much for your comment !...glad you found it helpful !
best tutorial for Kick 2, no one did that before you, congrats! thanks
Thank you so much for the kind words !
@@SounDirectiveSamples No! Thank you, my mix is way better. One question: Does for example some low octave synth's phase must also fit with kick and bass phase?
Hello. This is by far the best tutorial on kick im EDM that i have ever seen. Thanks
Much appreciated!
This is a masterclass level video. I wish i could find these kind of videos first and skip the rest...
Thank you very much for the comment Robert!
Best music design tutorial I've ever seen! Great job, looking forward other ones đ
Thank you!
This vid was incredibly helpful, I can't believe it's free!
One tip tho, on Pro-Q 3 you have the option to show a keyboard at the bottom which means you won't have to use the chart when EQing or finding the right note frequency for the tail of the kick.
Another tip, kick 2 actually has the note divisions built into the visual display 1.1.2 being 1/16th and 1.1.3 being 1/8th so the maths is not necessary :)
Great video will have my eye out for more future content, in depth videos like this are hard to come by on CZcams.
Thank you for your commnent!
No one is more purist and scientific about their production than Psytrance producers
djvoid1 thank you!
This is hands down the best tutorial about the material available.
Dzengiz Tafa thank you!!
now i understand why its so important to allign the kick with the baseline on phase in the last 2 notes. because this notes will cancel each other out if they overlap. so i guess the other notes are not soo important but this low end man you really want to allign it
Thank you for your comment !!..Glad you found it helpful !
I agree, this is one of the best videos on the subject. I finally understand what phase alignment is all about đ Thank you very much, I am looking forward to your future videos!
Thank you Ron ! Much appreciated!
I fully support this comment.
Plenty of great tips, but the one set at 8:40 mins, one of the best for Kick 2 users...
Setup the ending time with a "pre-last" node is a game changer.
Obvious and perfect. Like many BEST ideas in this world.
TIP: Even if perfectly aligned, bass and kick may cause a tiny problem - gain.
It's a good idea to pay attention to that when trying to get -6 LUFS or louder mix-down levels or avoiding fragmented pumpings.
Thnx for the kind words !..as far as your tip...yea offcourse there will be quite a volume bump when kick n bass come into phase allignment...I didn't get into that further cause it would turn the video into a kick n bass mixing video rather than a kick one..
wow this is the best tutorial to know the fundamentals of kick
I love the visual representation of the phase alignment
thanks man much appreciated!
@@SounDirectiveSamples any upcoming videos?
Mindblowing tutorial, need to try this! Thank u kind Sir!
Thank you so much for the kind words !
Great video! using the SNAP function on kick 2 will keep the notes nodes locked to the frequency chart automatically.
Thnx for the comment !...yes you are right...the snap function does it as well..was trying to signify the importance of accuracy
Well done Marie! Is not easy being a good teacher. To me this is one of the best tutorials I have seen
Na sai Kala ! Euxaristo polli!
Thank you so much! This video will save me years of aimless knob twiddling :) The best kick tutorial ever!!!
thank you mark!
Wow, what a tutorial. Well explained, very visual, and everything you say with a reason. Unlike a lot of other tutorials which are like "play with it until it sounds good...."
Thank you!
ChronOJohnPrivat thank you for the kind words!,
Absolutely amazing, that you share these info for free in such a high quality (not just the verbal and visual explanation, which ofc 95% of the importance for us the viewers, but the finest details like the transitions between the topics, etc are taken care of). Thank you for these tutorials in the name of the whole "bedroom-producer community"!! ;) I'm grateful for every pro insights to improve my ideas!
p.s: I hope no one takes THAT expression personal :D
Thanks for the kind words Renato...! much appreciated !
WOW. I've seen really a lot of music production tutorials. Free and paid. This one blew me away. This intro that lasts until 2:15 is just amazing. Subbed during that one
Thank you so much for the kind words!!
@@SounDirectiveSamples BTW. Very cool windows theme. what's it called
Great tutorial!!! One tip: Instead of spending $1000s on room acoustics, you can get the Subpack + Ikea Renberget chair. This works better than most top studio acoustics to really feel the low end, in my experience.
Wendel Kos TV thanks!!
Why does the chair matter? Genuine question.
This is what I was looking for, thank you very much
You are welcome! glad you found it useful !
Always thought kick 2 would round the nodes to closest note, rather, it names the range. now i need to redo every kick i ve ever done :) Thank you
Thiago Pinheiro Thank you!
Well documented and explained. Great contribution to the cause of proper sound design. đđđ
Fantastic video dude! I learnt so many nice tips :)
Thank you so much man !
Best tutorial and explanation on Psytrance kick! Thanks for sharing all the knowledge, I'm not new to the topic but learned a few handy things!
Thanks ! Glad you liked it !
BRO, THAT CRAZY TUTORIAL!!!! TXS FOR YOU EXISTENCES!!!
Glad you like it!
@@SounDirectiveSamples bro, please more tutorials! They are so clear!
One of the best tutorials iv seen to date in regards to detail with tuning kick and bass. keep them coming
thanks Jason!
Just downloaded the pack! Thank you! And for the excellent tutorial too! :)
Thank you !
This is by far the best kick tutorial on youtube. You mentioned making another video in the future to cover how to integrate kicks and bass that aren't tuned to the same note. Is that video still forthcoming? I think it could do a lot of good for aspiring darkpsy producers since a lot of darkpsy changes bass tonality many times over the course of the song. No worries if not; I'm really grateful for what already exists right here.
Thank you for your comment! Indeed the requests for the follow up video are pilling up. I will do my best to create it soon !Thanks!
@@SounDirectiveSamples Oh, nice! Yeah, no rush but i'm really looking forward to it~
Best tutorial I have ever seen! Thank you very much!
Much appreciated!
Best kick tutorial on the market ...Bravo.
Many thanx Amir !
best english tut very easy to understand
hope for more for example render bass in audio and mixing kick and bass in group channel
very good stuff greetings from germany cheers Connexx .-)
Thank you for your comment Marcel....!
That is amazing, never seen this level of knowledge and precision on CZcams! Can't wait for the next ones, keep it up mate!
Bruno A. Cardoso thank you so much!
Very good video on the topic, well structured and explained. Thank you. I just get a little frustrated with how technical and surgical everything is becoming and how little musical fun is left of it. Started with this to make music and ended up calculating formulas...
Ho Michael and thanx for your comment !.Yes i do understand what you are mean and i do agree that a lot of times the over-scientific side of music production takes away the magic and fun of the musical part of it .On the other hand though its within these levels of detail that most artist will eventually have to go to in order to make a difference in the professional world.
Thank you, that was absolutely fascinating and made complete sense too, plus you made it very easy to understand in a clear and concise way. I will definitely be using your methods going forward. Thanks again.
Thank you so much!
Holy shit! You just blew my mind. Thank you for sharing this information.
thank you!
I would love to see a tutorial on your methods of sound design for bass in serum and how you use EQ and compression to get a clean bass note
Thnx for you comment Jason!...
Very invested tutorial. Thanks !!!
Serge Weiss Thank you!
best kick tut on ytđ„đ
Thnx so much!
Great video. Your explanation is amazing
Thank you so much !
Amazing tutorial. Iâve figured out some of the information with two years of hard work but the rest was still essential.
Thank you Martina ! Much appreciated đ
Top notch man, feels like this was my missing piece of the puzzle, thank you!
Adir Haleli thanks Adir!..glad you found it helpful!
Amazing tutorial, I was lacking the objective stuff! Thanks!
thank you!
This is one of the best, if not the best tutorial about this topic. Absolute high value, keep up the good work!
Thank you Alex ! I appreciate it !
One of the best lessons for kick , Thanks Marie !!!
Constantine Tzachis Na sai kala Constantine ! Euxaristo !
Thank You Very much bro đđ» It was very informative and now I now I got to know about phase alignment and cancellation
Akash K R V thank you !, much appreciated!
Thanks man ! keep it coming. , this one is golden ! as Michael said. they are gold for people that want to go indepth !
Thank you so much man!
Thank you so much for sharing this info!
My pleasure! Thnx for your comment!
The best tutorial about kick!!! a hug from Brazilll hahaah
Thank you Felipe !
Excellent tutorial! Well done :) I would love a to see a video in the future discussing bassline processing and understanding where to boost/cut and why. Thank you again
thank you for the kind words Sam ! really appreciate it!
Very interesting video, thanks for making it, but there's one thing that I wonder. What people do a lot these days is that they also side-chain the kick, because volume shaping tools have become so popular and easy to use. If the audio is dead when the bass hits, there can be no phase cancellation. Even note relationship should not matter as far as mixing a track goes albeit it might sound musically bad in some cases (with a long kick tail). Both kick and bass amplitude envelopes sit in the track timeline without any intersection.
Hi there and thank you for your comment!...The video refers to some specific cases of kick and bass combination and obviously not all...There are any scenarios and ways to avoid the problems that arise by a kick and bass overlap. This is more about what to keep in mind when you are creating the elements to avoid problems later on.Thanks!
This is the best of the best.
Thank you so much!
Pure audio engineering. Thanks for sharing.
You bet!
This is the most in depth sound design kick tutorial ever found, thanks đđ»
Ian thank you Ian!
Mind-blown! Thanks
Thank you for your comment !
Great Tutorial for kick, i have learn a lot of things! Thanks!!!!
Thank you very much !
Wow. This is an amazing tutorial. Goes into proper depth. Thanks for making it!
much appreciated !! thnx!!
Amazing. Thank you so much.
Much appreciated đ!
Amazing tutorial I learned a lot â€
Toda Yaniv!
Never realized you actually have a small part where kick and bass overlap. So the same would hold true for Hardtrance kicks right? Though they usually have 1/8th note kick, and then 1/8 note bass (instead of the three 1/16th).
At least I always gave the bass an attack phase to merge the two sounds. So chances are you get some phase mismatch there. And your example of the 2Hz difference showed me how big of a difference that actually makes in the perceived sound.
Thank you for this video. That was super useful!
Hi there and thanks for your comment !The overhaul approach of the kick design should be applicable to all kinds of kicks.As far as the specific kick bass pattern you describe (kick 1/8 + bass 1/8) then they should not have any area where one would overlap the other.In such a case the phases are not as important as in the case of overlapping waveforms.But in any other case where the kick overlaps the bass then the information of the video should apply.
Well, this is one of the best Kick Synthesis Tuts I've ever seen! And I've seen an awful lot.... đ
Der Kritiker much appreciated!! thnx!
Thank you so much for your time and effort and for sharing your knowledge in the first place!
Much appreciated!
Thank you for your comment !! much appreciated !
It is almost imposible to avoid phase cancelation or better said to get perfect k+b phase shift without using ozillos mega scope. I just use my ears as to make precise phase correction you must use your eyes and compare both frequency crests both together. Anyway thank you for this tutorial. Before this video it was very very very dificult to understand how you can make phase cancelation , but this tutorial is very graphic!!!!
Thanks for your comment Eduardo....!! Indeed it is very difficult to have perfect phase match without any visible means even though a trained ear can understand when the phases are almost perfect....oszillos is just one of the tools that can offer a separate view of the waveforms but its not the only one....you can also do it manually by exporting the kick and bass in audio and overlapping then in order to see how the phases correlate.....off course if you need to make any changes you will have to re export the audio and re- overlap till you get it right....another way also is to use other oscilloscopes that can show you the kick and bass together....by paying attention to the disturbance on the second half of the kick you can more or less make small corrections realtime ....
This is a very solid tutorial, great work
thank you!,
Hi hi! Today i bought your Sample pack vol.2.
I like it very mutch!!!
Thanks for your work.
Greetings from germany
thank you for the kind words alex !!! glad you are enjoying it !!
This is the best damn video on the entire internet.
thank you so much !!
Great tutorial! Thank you :)
Thank you for your comment!
That was really helpful, thank you
Much appreciated!..Thank you for your comment!
this is the best tut on kick design i've seen, big thumb up!!
thank you so much Nuno ! much appreciated!
A very good tutorial, đ very well explained. Hopefully more tutorials will follow.
Thank you very much !
Amazing and eshaustive explanation, please make more tutorials! thank you :)
Mic Mide thank you very much !
Masterclass here
Thank you so much!
It was super informative, super professional really really nice job. Thank you for sharing that with us, and keep up the good work.
Tijt Bass thank you for the kind words! much appreciated!
Real high end info
Thank you
Thank you!
Nice one! Thank you.
Thnx for the comment !
Wow what a fantastic tutorial.. I learned so much just then! Thank you so much dude! look forward to the next one :)
Daniel Russell Thank you very much Daniel!
Excellent Tutorial. Thanks so much for sharing. đ
Thank you ! My pleasure !
Great video, Quickly wanted to say that if 2 sine waves are in the same key they don't have to be phase aligned, as you claimed at 11:17.
hi there and thank you for your comment!!....yes you are correct on your comment...they can even have opposite phases....but i think its quite clear from the overhaul context of the video that the key is responsible for the distance between the wave cycles and not the phase .Otherwise the phase allignment between kick n basse wouldnt have to be demonstrated since they key alone would phase allign the two elements.....
This is insanely inforrmative, thank you for doing this.
Do you know where I could find a video or information about using a kick on a different key, and to try reinforce the 2nd 16th as you would if using a kick on the same key as the bass. You mentioned in the video that you would cover that in another one.
Thanks again.
Thanks for such good information. Best tutorial ever. Please keep the good work
Wabkanic Live-act Thank you!
Thank you for this tutorial!
will deff look to buy your sound pack!
keep doing!
greetz from Thailand!
VAKABULAR thank you so much !!
Nice vid! Really helpful! btw...Eighth note length=30000ms/BPM
Thnx for the kind words!
This really opened my eyes!! awesome video! thnx!!
Thank you so much for the comment!
Absolutely epic video man, very very much appreciate it!
Thank you mate!
Damn fine video dude! so much information packed into such a short video. when is the next one coming out? :)
thnx so much ! Really appreciate it!
Thanks this tutorial its amazing Thank you! Just Thankiu !!!!!!
Thank you !
Subscribed. Love the content. Thank you for imparting your knowledge. Namaste from India.
Thank you!
Fantastic man!! Thank you so much for so much knowledge. Much love!!
Ricardo Urkutaki much appreciated! thanks!
@@SounDirectiveSamples I still see that there are some phasing issues in the last 2 waves of my kick /Bass, what plug in would you recommend for phase aligment?
Hey thank u really much for this tutorial, the best kick tutorial I have ever watched, so informative and detailed... waiting for more!!!! Thanks once more â€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïž Subscribed
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for your commnent!
Great invested Time here man! the only thing that is lacking in this video is the Compression of the Kick.but maybe i just missed that part! Or you dont use Compression on Your Kicks... Aboed u
hi there Broose and thank you for your comment!!...To answer your thoughts......the video is about the things you need to pay attention to when you design you kick (acording to my personal opinion)..it is not on how to mix kick and bass together.....and i would personally not compress my kick as an approach.....without that meaning that one cannot compress it if he/she so wishes....
yeah man... that video was more than good! i was just a lil disappointed because i thought i will see the Compressionhandeling in sounddesign from somebody who is making kicks days in and days out :)
I created my own chart with 6 decimal points
C-2 to B10. I checked it using a calculator
This is magnificent work! Well done!
Thank you Bruno! Much appreciated!
This tutorial tells the truth! I agree with the others, this is the best tutorial about Kick/Bass I've ever seen. Is this methode aplicable to other genres!? thank you so much for the lesson.
Jake Wheeled thank so much for the comments!..yes the principal is the same to all genres....as long as in that genre the kick and bass collide one on to the the other.....
Thank you for the fast answer. I realise one thing, when you change the note in the bass (kick in A and the bass in A but suddently change to C for example) the lenght of the wave in the bass changes so the kick and the bass are no longer fitted together unless you return to A in the bass. So in this case whats good to do? Thank you so much!
Very helpful thanks đ
Thanks! Much appreciated!