Understanding Recoil and How to Manage it for Great Marksmanship
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2016
- Retired police Captain and lifelong professional firearms instructor sheds light on the subject of recoil, and how it compares with various calibers. Recoil anticipation can ruin shooting proficiency more than all other marksmanship problems combined, and is a problem shared by novices and experts alike. Watch this video and learn exactly how the recoil of your guns and loads compare to others. GunBlue490 shares a very simple recoil formula that you can use to compare any loads! Learn how to manage recoil, and how to avoid, and even reverse, the common and devastating and notorious anticipation problem, commonly called the "flinch".
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Captain, your fame has been sprawled to gun lovers beyond America!...Greetings from the faraway Greece.
So nice to hear from you Nicholaos! I think this calls for dolmades with lemon-egg sauce tonight! My Scottish-English-Irish wife makes amazing recipe that she learned from our dear Greek friends nearly 50 years ago. God bless!
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Τhank you for knowing and honouring our cuisine! God bless all of your family!!
This reminds me of when I was younger I worked in a sporting goods store and a guy came in insisting he wanted a 458 Lott. I tried to talk him down to a reasonable caliber since he was only wanting a deer rifle. I ordered the rifle and two boxes of 500 gr dangerous game ammo. After he picked the gun up a couple days later he returned to the store with the rifle and 37 bullets asking me if he could return it. As many do the store had a no return policy on guns. I purchased the rifle from him at quite a bargain and he left with a marlin 45-70. I still have the rifle and installed a brake that has a collar that I can shut off the ports while hunting with very little POI change. I also have the rifle up to 14 pounds with 250 gr cast bullets behind 27 gr trailboss and it is a joy to shoot. I still have 30 of the original bullets that came with the rifle from over ten years ago.
At one point I went shooting with an uncle of mine, his friend, and my cousin. We were out shooting my cousins new remmington 30-06, it was the budget version of the 700, maybe a 760 if my memory serves. But I digress, my uncle and cousin shot 4 or 5 a piece then it was my turn. as I was getting behind the rifle I was handed 5 rounds that were clearly not from the box of ammo previously being shot. The recoil was significant and much more than any 30-06 I had fired before. I found out later that the box ammo was 150 grain factory ammo and what I was given were much heavier projectiles, I would guess at least 180 grains, and they were handloaded to proof pressures. I didn't know what pressure signs were at the time but I still looked at the spent casings and now know that what I saw was serious primer pancaking. This was done as a joke because I am not a very experienced shooter and someone thought it would be funny to "rattle my cage" as it were. Looking back I am thankful that I was able to employ proper fundamentals and not get hurt by this rifle.
As a side note, on this same excursion I watched the same group of people singlehandedly destroy a beautiful example of an early war M1 garand by loading the same "cool guy hot loads" in that rifle. Upon The second round being fired, the entire trigger group and bottom metal basically exploded out of the stock and landed in the dirt in a heap. I cannot speak to the condition of the chamber, but after learning that the m1 was designed specifically for m2 ball ammo which runs at much lower pressures than even modern box ammo, I would hazard a guess that that gun is now inoperable and will be good for nothing more than a fireplace conversation piece.
I hope someone reads this story and might think twice about pulling the same joke, or loading such hot ammunition without proper research, as it might have ended badly for me, and definitely ended badly for the rifle.
Most likely a 7600 police or a 783 i reckon kasey :)
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That 💩 ain't cool at all. Those are not responsible gun owners. Im glad I grew up being taught by sensible family and friends.
Comments are off on your Self-Defense video, and I can only like it once, but let me say here that it is PURE GOLDEN WISDOM and I would give it a "thumbs-up" a hundred times if I could.
Thank you, and while fools and idiots rarely learn from elders' experience and wisdom, many are only marginally stupid, and CAN take a lesson and be saved.
Thank you for this comment. I feel the same so much. It is the jewel in the crown of all these videos and it should be propagated widely to be seen by all high school students. Pullitzer Prize!
I would watch your videos for the life lessons alone. Bless you, sir.
you my friend are truly a inspiration and a model instructor for ANYONE that would ever pick up their first firearm ever. i've watched so many of your vids. and have enjoyed every single one of them and i'm on the older and more experienced end of the shooter spectrum. so much of what you talk about is something i learned through the years of mistakes; but they have served me well. years of experiences are a great teacher which i'm sure have taught you also. it's nice that you are taking the time to reach new shooters and respect for the firearms is what is needed to be taught in our schools today. we wouldn't have the carnage that we have today.
"You can't kill game with a fancy head stamp that has a big number on it , you have to actually hit them with a bullet" lol!
You are so correct Sir. Recoil is something to really understand and respect. Especially for a beginning shooter. I eased my boys and many other begging shooters, into small cartridges. .22 LR was the beginning point for all and then we progressed further as they grew in knowledge, skills and even body size. My boys eventually took their first Whitetails with a reloaded .257 Roberts at moderate levels. Such a joy for them to shoot this cartridge. They enjoyed shooting and yearned to learn more over the years. As it should be. Thank you for such a great video!!
Detective Harry Callahan said it best...…….."A man's got to know his limitations." A very good video, and a wise message for anybody looking to have good safe fun with firearms.
A good cheek weld has always helped me with managing recoil on magnum loads. I can definitely tell when I don’t get a good one.
Excellent video, you hit it out of the park again. My 15 yr old daughter sat in the lane next to me while I sighted in her new 243. I think the muzzle blast was loud for her there despite ear plugs, and she is afraid of that rifle and flinches w/ it. She has no problems w/ any cowboy action guns and placed well in the last two natl. finals. Her deer rifle of choice is an AR 15 .223 and shoots it fearlessly. So I agree w/ you're comment that muzzle blast can be as bad as the felt recoil for creating a flinch. We were in elk country so she reluctantly carried the 243 and managed to get a nice mule deer. Best wishes to you sir.
It's what scared me shooting my 410 the first time. We didn't use hearing protection back then. I shot fine, but was scared. Lol
Extraordinary Knowledge base - your videos are so easy to listen to. I am about to get back into shooting after too many years away and you have restored my faith that it is still really enjoyable and I don't thankfully do not need a degree in Ballistics.
These videos are truly a fantastic resouce. Good stuf Mr. GunBlue490!
Wow! how I remember touching off my first 20 gauge shotgun. Yes, my world was turned upside down. It sure didn't stop me from shooting any gun I could get my hands on. My first dove hunting trip had the pocket of my arm black and blue and I asked my Uncle if we could go out again the next day........I loved it!
Lol. My dad got me the 410 at 9. I needed earmuffs because the sound was too much, but I loved it. I started going hunting with my dad at 5 and he'd use his 12 gauge, I knew damn well that wasn't for me. I went to a turkey shoot with some friends (bout 11 years old) who bragged they were gonna use the 12 gauge. Every one of us grabbed a 410 out the selection. 🤣
Thanks again for all the hard work and for sharing. Your the best of YT.
Great video captain! Here is one scenario, far less observed and discussed regarding recoil management: 10 years ago I had weight loss surgery that yielded a total body mass loss of just under 270 lb. I am shocked at how much difference that made to how I manage recoil. I literally had to learn how to shoot again. It makes a tremendous difference that I would have never thought. God bless
I’m on the fatter side so that helps with recoil but I feel as long as your position and mechanics are correct you will be alright
@@MikeM10293 . Yup, I agree. I had to build up to the 28 Nosler again and I fought that rifle for a while but in the end, I learned to stroke the trigger and stay on the money.
I am your newest subscriber....your newest fan. Your videos are great. You have an excellent vocabulary, deliberate and ego-free sensibility. I admire the finesse you use when handling and dismantling weapons. Thank you for speaking and treating your audience like an adult.
Always a pleasure to watch you ! I've been shooting for years,and still learn something new from you all the time ! ... Thanks !
great video. one that doesn't matter what year it is, this is now and will be relevant for years to come. I bought marline 336 30-30s for both of my sons as their first deer rifles. I found that one of my sons was initially more recoil sensitive than the other and I ended up handloading ammo for him with Sierra 125gr hpfn bullets for him. He ended up being very confident with that load and shot his first deer with it in the woods at about 30 yds. Perfect boiler room shot placement for a quick kill.
Thank you for doing this. Your videos are exceptionally informative and interesting. I am headed for the range this morning and have completely revised my agenda to focus on recoil management.
I am now aware of so much on-line baloney because of your excellent series of videos. Thank you so much!
You always have great and informative videos you are the person i could sit with and talk to for hours keep up good work
I agree, would be great to side by the fireplace with him after a day of hunting and discuss various cartridges, rifles etc and just soak up the information.
I very much enjoy watching your videos. It's apparent that you are speaking from the position of experience and training.
"humility vs hubris". Excellent video. Best comprehensive discussion of recoil I've ever heard/read. Suggest you refer viewers to this video periodically. I did not fully appreciate the significance of bullet wgt for yrs. There are millions of new shooters who need this info. Am more sensitive to recoil & muzzle blast than many. But have developed a reasonable level of precision accuracy. Especially for rapid self defense. Have found your video series extremely helpful. Thank you for your high quality work. Stay safe. 😷😷😁😎
I genuinely enjoy and appreciate your efforts with making these videos. thanks
ALOT more involved than I was thinking at the beginning. Very very informative , THANK YOU for your wealth of knowledge.
As a new shooter, your videos are GOLD to me! Thank you and keep em coming if you're able. God bless you sir. More info on mounting and handling the shotty please!
I thought you might have touched on how the shooter positions himself and shooting technique as well. Getting your posture, position in place to manage recoil is certainly a large factor too. Example a heavy recoil gun, at the bench - if you sit a little more upright, or for that matter shoot from a standing position will allow the gun to push your shoulder back, the felt recoil will be greatly reduced from something like a prone position where there is very little opportunity for your body to rebound.
Exactly. Shoot off a higher rest.
I still have sub MoA with Howa 1500 20" heavy barrel at 150 meters even when shooting sitting from some crapy old table. But yes, prone position would make sub MoA at 300.That is a fact.
Such a pleasure to listen to a real expert..Your Sub number deserves to be far greater..
You do such a terrific job with your videos. I feel like I am right in the room with you. Thanks for all the great information you share.
Thank you Sir.
You Recoil formula is spot on!!!
Great info, as always… love looking into the previous uploads since I’ve found this channel… lots of gold here
just thaught i would stop by and visit. im glad i did.
its nice to listen to some one who actualy knows what hes talking about now im going to have to come back and watch the rest of your vids. anyway thank you for taking the time for sharing your expeirence .
Amazing, informative, concise, video as always. I haven't had the ability to do a lot of shooting, but I grew up around it and hunting. The only centerfire rifle I've fired was my brother's Mausin Nagant 91/30 and I found it comfortable, the same went for his friend's Stoeger 20 gauge coach gun although I didn't know the technical specifications of the shells or the bullet weight for the Mosin.
I remember my dad had a stainless composite bolt action with a scope (I never asked the make) in 7mm Rem Mag, it stuck out against all the wood and blued steel. I always remember him telling me "It feels like being punched in the shoulder and wasn't enjoyable" and "It's not what you hit them with, it's where you hit them". Dad took me shooting for the first time when I was 11 and I used his Marlin 60 .22 lr. That recoil formula is very easy and appreciated, thanks. My great uncle told me that the .30-06 had a longer case to compensate for the inferior powders available at the time compared to the .308.
Actually, the "inferior" powders of the 30-06 back in the old days were mostly IMR-4895 and IMR-4064, which happen to be two of the best powders for the .308 as well, and are classic powders for National Match loads. Some of the best powders we use now were developments of those old days, and are still highly valued. The '06 simply has greater interior capacity that can utilize some of the improved slow burning powders that have been developed over the last 80 years, that allow it to attain its full potential. More powder capacity always yields higher velocity and more bullet seating capacity for longer, heavier bullets, which is where the '06 shines.
Nice literally covers all aspects of understanding recoil. Really great all-around information.
Thank You for some EXCELLENT videos,
and God Bless you as well. P.S. I love the Sacred Heart images in the background
I was born in NH and came back to go to college , Listening to you is like a hunting trip to the white mountains thanks you are a true lifetime professional 1st shot on target wins
I think the thing that angers me more than just about anything else is seeing a child with a rifle that's FAR to big for them. This past year I chanced to speak to a youngster (about 12) and his father. The boy was thrilled about it being his first deer hunt. I asked him what type of rifle he had and he gleefully told me it was a 7mm Rem Mag. The boys father glared at me, obviously waiting for me to say something to him. I didn't. I can almost promise you that poor, young man got clobbered by that rifle and will most likely never want to touch a firearm again. It was more about his fathers ego than anything else. Just sickens me.
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Father: “yea man me and my son went hunting?”
Son: “I shot my first deer!”
You: “W H A T C A L I B E R?”
Father:” 7mm Rem Mag?”
You:
BigRedPower59 I see this kind of stupidity all the time at the pistol range, trap/skeet club, etc. and most times the fathers in question don’t know half as much as they think they do about firearms and are more focused on the macho aspects of shooting sports.
I used to work at a gun shop with an indoor shooting range and guns to rent for the range. I ran the range and gun rentals. I loved welcoming new shooters and working with them to get them ready to shoot.
During my time at the gun shop and range I often dealt with customers whose only shooting experience was when they were a little kid and their dad or grandfather or some boneheaded adult handed them a 12-ga shotgun, of which they were unprepared to handle the recoil, and it practically tore their arm off. That experience burned into their memory a fear of shooting guns. Hearing about so many of these experiences from customers I dealt with just pissed me off at those careless adults who subjected them to such a negative experience as children. However, I was up to the challenge of helping them overcome their fear of shooting guns. We would start small with .22LR and work our way up to larger calibers. In no time they absolutely LOVED shooting and couldn't wait to try something bigger.
There was one customer I had who had the exact experience I described whom I'll never forget. She was this petite little thing, about 5'1" and weighing barely 115-lbs. Started her on .22LR, then 9mm, then 5.56 NATO, then 7.62x39. Finally she wanted to try 12-ga. She did AWESOME! Her face just lit up with a huge smile. She shot both birdshot and buckshot and even asked for more ammo.
Seeing the excitement and confidence bloom and a newfound love of shooting develop in new shooters was the greatest reward.
Spot on BigRed iv seen alot of Adults struggle with the magnums let alone a child
Hopefully the father slipped some reduced-handloads in there, and let the kid think it was full-powered cause that is what the kid was set on using.
I had trouble with handling a 300 win mag recoil years ago.I had a friend who use to shoot big game in Africa with a 458 Lott with a recoil around 75fp.He got me to be able to shoot consistantly from a standing position with it and this cured me as everything after that seemed a lot milder. Flinching as Gun Blue says is a mind game. I know that in my early days without ear muffs the noise from.centrefires also didnt help much with developing a flinch.I havent had a problem with flinching since wearing earmuffs and learning to tolerate the recoil of a 458 Lott. Cheers and God Bless to you and your family. Hope you keep producing these quality videos
Much appreciated.
Did you shoot that 458 in prom?
Great video this I the first time I was interested enough to watch a video this long
This was very informative and a superb video. Thank you for sharing your expertise and your perspectives.
Always love your content! My friendly gun broker and I were talking about this today. He's always surprised that my favorite rifle is the 45/70 and my go-to shotgun is a 10ga. Your talk about .338s reminded me of many nights coming home from the range with a bruised shoulder. I sold that gun, not because I didn't like shooting it, but because I couldn't find ammo for it any longer. It was becoming a paperweight. Enjoyed your math on the value of a heavy gun! The 10 ga that none of my friends have ever shot makes your shoulder hurt just looking at it. Truth be told, that Marlin Goose gun (bolt action, no pad, 3 shot clip, 34-inch barrel) weighs in at nearly14 pounds. With that kind of weight, it doesn't kick as much as the 12 ga with 3 1/2's. Thanks.
You're right I had one of the Marlin 10 gauges.
Excellent video.Thank you so much for just a simple, realistic, video
Wow.....you were a Police Captain? I need you on MY side 😉 Terrific lectures.
You are a breath of Fresh air! You to use your point, you "Hit The Bulls Eye" - Thank You
As a relatively new shooter your videos are very informative when reserching the purchase of a first rifle. This video is especially interesting as for my quarry in my area the legal limit is in the area of 6,5x55/.308 with 9,3x62 being fairly common and the usual response to the question of recoil is simply that you just need to be man enough.
The first time as a child I shot anything other than a diopter sighted air rifle was a .30-06 that knocked the scope against my eyebrow. As an adult with that experience in mind I take note of the difference in recoil between a .22 lr, .a 222/.243 and full power calibers.
I will probably be getting an 8x57. It has a slightly larger bullet but with not much more recoil than a .308 in standard loads but if needed with handloads it can use up to 250gr bullets with standard barrels and can shoot copper bullets of the same weight at slightly higher speeds.
Anyway, a video about rifle- and shotgun stocks with regard to type and shooting position (quick off hand shooting (air/ground) vs shooting from a rest as well as sizing to the shooter would be interesting.
The 8x57 has very significant recoil! It is on par with heavy 7mm Remington Magnum loads with lighter bullets, and with 250 grain loads, is even heavier. I would suggest looking at the 7x57, which is very mild, but has far better ballistic flight and penetration, using much lighter bullets.
On Managing Recoil, you have lots of good info no doubt and
I agree. However the two top items
to managing recoil I did not hear you mention.
1. Length of Pull:
Incorrect pull and you cannot manage recoil... The scope
will find you eye etc..
Factory Pulls are way too long!
Also the correct Pull allows one to hold the rifle more
steady.
2. By far the best recoil Pad I have found in 40 years of shooting is the Pachmayr XLT Double
Magnum Trap Decelerator Recoil Pad 1.15" thick with Leather Face Black. (I could not careless that the factory put the name Trap on it.)
If you ever try it on a Rifle you will be shocked as to what
happened to the recoil, how it naturally fits your shoulder and returns to the same fit every time.
I do enjoy your videos.
Thank you sir, I really love your formula and that calculation is extremely accurate !
I'm your big fan and I'd only learn from you, thanks a lot sir!
First class wisdom here ,thanks for this.ur life time of nollage is a treasure
Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge. I really enjoy your videos!
Very interesting stuff. I always felt fairly tolerant of high recoil, but one day at my club, I put 40+ rounds of 190 gr. .300 Win Mag. at various loadings. That night my arm and shoulder was very sore, and stayed that way for a few days. I gained new respect for these hotrods!
Yes, even far lesser calibers can be bruisers. My old steel butt plate .32 Special Model 94 can really punish after 20 or so rounds of 170 grain loads doing only 2,300 ft. per second, if you don't have some protection. Of course, such guns were never generally used as plinkers!
Always informative videos! Thanks. I find velocity makes a difference in felt recoil. A 44 Mag 240g at 1800 is less felt recoil than a 180g at 2200 in a Marlin 1894 or my Smith 629. A Marlin shooting 45-70 400g cannon balls is a solid but comfortable push. A Sig 226 9mm has less felt recoil with a 147g vs. a 124g, keeping the IPSC power factors the same. At least that's my impression. I do agree that your comparative illustrations of felt recoil are very good for someone to think about when shopping.
I agree with you 100% I always advise blue Shooters to start out with a 22 rifle or a 22 single action handgun develop good shooting skills then move up in bore size after you're comfortable with your skill level
Another truly incisive video. Thank You for sharing your knowledge with us all. - Randy
I learned so much, thanks, you’re are the perfect teacher from another teacher.
Great videos , My thoughts. My old Winchester model 70 in .270win recoiled like a donkey but any one of my wartime Enfield .303s with the same bullet weight are a joy to shoot. Ive since gone back to shooting my Ruger .223 a lot to get back into precise shooting and will probably go up to 7mm08 for my new deer rilfe.. Great information and now subscribed,
You should do a podcast. These lectures are priceless!!
Maybe someone can take the audio from these and create a podcast for you.
Great videos, really enjoyed watching . Thank you
I really thank you for this video, I'm 74 and have had a gun in my hands since I was 9, and owned my first at 11( a 22 lr ), and have taken 17 deer ,1 med.bear and 1large elk and most on one shot from that 22 ! In the mid 60's I purchased a 357 while in AK. I loved that gun and virtually whore it out . To keep the story short I would wind up buying a 44 mag. To break the gun in I started with 220grs. specials, 225 grs mags.and would find that 44 owned me and I was bleeding. I Recollected myself and went the shop and all they had for the 44 was 1 box of PMC 180grs mags.( 1400fps. ) and my lady liked those and they gave some of my confidence back. Next time my son and I go out I will use his 357 with 38's and work myself up to the 44. I really like the way she fit's my hand!
Sir. you are a good man. Keep up the good work.
Great video , my little guy is 5 years old and I’m already thinking about taking him with me hunting when that time comes . You are much older and wiser than I am and this video was excellent for me to help advise me on the right direction to go when it comes to his first rifle . Thank you sir and much respect .
Bb gun then pellet gun are a great way to get started at a young age. I absolutely loved mine. My dad took me with him hunting first time at 5. Those are great memories.
@@jc.1191 I started there and then moved him onto a custom built 6.5 creedmor with a break etc and he’s doing great thankfully !
@@MrBlizzard769 Damn! Alright then, happy shooting.
@@jc.1191 thank you and you also ! Stay safe out there .
@@MrBlizzard769 You too bud
Thank you sir for your GREAT video's! Your experience is priceless!!👌👋
thank you. i needed that information
I have learned allot from this man’s vlogs.
As always great information.
great video, thanks for that handy formula!
Stock shape, drop at heel, drop at comb, length of pull has everything to do with it. Believe it or not an old Richard's High comb rollover with Palm swell tamed a 340 Weatherby to where I could shoot it. The Weatherby stock pummeled me. Good video. He knows what he's talking about.
This was an enjoyable topic, one that I also like to ponder. The snappier feel of .357 Magnum, compared to a .38 SPL of similar bullet weight, would come from the greater force accelerating the bullet to higher exit velocity and the shorter duration of the event. More shove in less time equals more "pop".
wiser words are rarely spoken,
Thanks! Very interesting and useful information.
perfect guide
AYEP - WHAT HE SAID !!! Using a couple of factors you mentioned for consideration; I have a .338 Rem Mag, and only got it after long consideration. I download my ammunition (lighter bullets and much less powder) and have a semi-auto firearm, which spreads out the recoil impulse, giving the sense of softer recoil, and, I installed a mercury weight in the stock, along with a heavy scope gives me a 12 lb firearm. I cannot practically shoot this off hand. For field use, I favor a 6.5x55.
Love this stuff! Thanks much
your a good teacher enjoy your video on 1911
Very comprehensive video. Thank you very much. Being a hunter for many years and also a retired engineer, your talk was very interesting and kindled familiar terms. Of course you mentioned not to get deeply into physics, but one is reminded of such things as intertia, momentum, acceration, and pounds per square inch. All at play here. Additionally, one could also emphasize, as you have, it's a matter of the right tool for the right job. Regarding recoil reducing measures, have you ever tried some sort of a temporary projection on the rifle forearm as it rests against a weighted shooting bench bag to help reduced recoil at the range? Keep your outstanding videos coming.
This channel should qualify for college credits..!
it does not need to be said that the Captain is the finest resource for shooters and hunters you are likely ever to come across. in my fifty years of study there has never been anything like it and i have read more tomes than carter's little liver pills. watch out for your eyes as well. lots of recoil can damage retinas and they have to be fixed pronto....
Great talk here and boy oh boy is that true! It's never talked about either, everyone wants to play macho man with some of the big bore hot loadings. We've all been a little scar'd from that 1st high power rifle shot when we were young, or maybe the 1st 12 gauge shot taken
I'm sure you could sit down at a cocktail party and keep me fascinated. :-)
Hunted AK, the years I live there and many more as a non-resident. A close and surprising, horrifying, encounter with a big sow grizzly and two cubs and me with only a long bow within 35 yards restructured my choice of weapons. I bought a KS-700 Rem. custom shop rifle in 375 H&H, had it Ackley Improved in 1989. Hunted the Alaska range so lots of mountain climbing, rifle and 6x compact Leupold comes in naked at 7 lbs. 4 ozs, will run 300g Nosler partitions, or A Frames 2700 + fps. No brake, a very rude high "Impulse" unit but in the field, I never feel it. Off a bench I have a pad that makes it tolerable for several rounds and keeping good muscle tone really helps. Been my go to for AK for over 3 decades. I use the various ballistic calculators to check recoil in ft/lbs and Impulse since I load bullets from 210 Barnes up to the 300g. I really love this rifle. I can run the old blue coated 235 Barnes XLC's at 3035 fps and under a minute of angle with a full case of H414 which is good for sheep, goats, and long shots on caribou. My go to for the 270g Woodley's and Speer, Nosler, Swift 300g is R19 as it fills the case, slight compression to counter any potential bullet set back. I love this rifle. The 6x is light, and durable and all the scope I ever needed. I have a Bergara B-14 in 7mm that has a bit more scope with the multiplex type recital, makes hitting out to 550 pretty easy with 150-168g bullets and R26. That is a long damn way out there for a converted bow hunter. Alway enjoy your videos and think I have seen the majority, and many are bookmarked. :)
Enjoyed! Thanks 👍
Great video!
As a 6'7" 260lb lifelong shooter, I'll be the first to tell you that I don't like getting my ass kicked by any rifle. My go to is a heavy barrel 308 that I can load anything from a "bridge of your nose" load to something you don't want to shoot more than 3 or 4. I don't need to carry a .300 Mag to prove anything. My 308 might be slower, but it's going to hit everything your shoulder crusher will hit.
My first encounter with adult firearms was when my older cousin handed me his double barrel Ithaca 12 gauge and loaded it up with Winchester Super X buckshot loads. No recoil pad and he was not coaching me on holding it firm against my shoulder. It left a reddish bruise after sobbing preteen tears. It took me many years to allowing a firearm discharge to be a surprise through squeezing the trigger.
Excellent video. I developed a flinch from using a 30-06 that simply did not fit me. I'm of smaller stature. I got a bit of scope bite and bruised cheek. I had to retain myself by using a PAST pad and hearing protection. In the end I got rid of the gun and used a 308 and a 6.5x55 Swede which is more than enough for deer.
I had a Rem 788 back in the day in .308. I had a ton of surplus 7.62, mostly for an M-60. A day after shooting 150 rounds my shoulder was a little stiff and totally bruised.
So now on the south slope of 65, I love my. 243.
Thanks for sharing these videos,never heard anyone with so much knowledge and able to convey in such a wonderful way.Some of your videos are long but seem to fly by because of so much great info.I have been shooting for over 55 years and just feel like a new shooter when I hear your experience.With my older eyes I have a # of limitations but able to shoot fair to good with the rifle platforms,One question with just about all the pistols I shoot I seem to pull left,tried many grips and work on trigger control,still pull slightly left,any hints you have I would appreciate, thanks again Alex
If you are right handed, pushing left indicates anticipation before the shot... Usually too firm a grip. Sometimes a smaller grip helps. Be sure to watch my pistol marksmanship videos, and check that your backstrap is centered high in the web of your hand, directly between your thumb and forefinger. If you are left handed, and if you have a small group, that rotation indicates that your trigger may be too long for you. Also, if you are shooting single action be sure you are pressing with the center of the pad, the fingerprint, of your finger. With DA, you wrap around the trigger with the crease of the first joint. In any case, watch those videos. There are many possible issues.
Thank you ,will watch how to videos again and try to lighten grip,take care Alex
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My granddad put 45 bullets in each ear as hearing protection. I got a kick out of seeing Gunny do that a couple times in a video. Grandpa would have loved him. I use 45 gap plastic dummy rounds because they fit perfectly in my ears.
I had a friend who had an 8mm Remington mag. Offhand it was manageable, but from a bench it’s brutal. Prone, something we never tried, would have been brutal.
The 378 Weatherby. Elmer Keith called it the Great. I call it the Magnificent and recoil and muzzle blast are shockingly brutal.
It's glorious but I protect myself I use a Bench Master with a 20lb bag earplugs and earmuffs. I also use a PAST recoil Shield.
.458 I find isn’t bad. I find my .45-70, 9.3x62 and .300 Weatherby beat me up worse. Also find .500 and .460 easier than my .44 mag.
my first revolver was a .357 Security Six, using medium load .38's, although looking back something a little tamer would have been better, even though I had shot 12ga, garand, etc after my bb gun and my Ruger 10/22
I find +p 130 gr very comfortable to shoot in my gp100. I think it's 5 inch barrel, and heavy. I do have 22 revolvers tho too. But I actually shoot that heavy Ruger better somehow.
Great video good stuff.
I would like your book on all the gun stuff you have on your CZcams vids. I know books are a lot of work and you’re not going to write it, but it would be a very good book. One that I would want to have in my library. Cheers
Thank you for another great video. Its so good to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. Ive narrowed it down to two affordable options for my small stature daughter for whitetail, 3030 or 243. I know the effects on deer, but not on a small shoulder. What are your thoughts pls
If you haven't already got her one, look into the 6.5mm creedmoor. It sounds like it will check all your boxes. It doesn't beat up the shoulder, but shoots really flat and with a fair amount of energy for its size. Great shot placement(so lots of range time) and excellent bullets(factory loads with Nosler partition bullets for instance) will put a deer down every time out to 600 yards easy. It's ideal for small framed shooters. The .243 and the .30-30 do pack a punch.
Depends on age greatly. A 410 is good at short range for youth. Give her hearing protection, and shoot it first to see if you're both comfortable about it. Heavier gun is better for recoil.
Added 1/2 pound of plumbers putty in the buttstock of a Ruger American Predator in 308. Really softened the recoil.
Israel Isassi
Terrific solution.
7 years later...what about cleaning your and bystanders' clothes ?
Very informative really enjoyed your videos. Please make a video on cross eye dominate shooting. Thank you
He did. Browse through his other videos or search his channel. It, like all his videos, is thorough and informative.
Thanks!
I love the no-nonsense, down to earth yet in depth and insightful information presented with a sprinkling of 'dad humour'. Great stuff!
And may the Heavenly Father continue to bless you too sir.
🙏🏼 he has been a gift to us.