Why you SHOULD NOT buy an Orange County Chopper
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Thinking about buying an Orange County Chopper? Think again! In this video, we'll give you reasons why you should NOT buy an OCC motorcycle. Save yourself the headache and watch this first!
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Anyone who knows anything about motorcycles would never buy this junk!
Their bikes completely suck!
True that!! Total junk, they're just to look at not ride. Glorified welder is all he was.
I worked for a guy who owns the first bike they made on the show, the blue one with yellow flames. He's 6'4" and still looks like a goof riding it. You couldn't pay me to have to ride that thing every day. 😂
Glorified boat anchors!
No resale value. And $80,000 bike resales at about 12,000
I liked it at first but quickly lost interest when it became a drama
I liked it from the start and I liked it till the end. You can’t script real life father son growing pains like these guys. Definitely made me look at my relationship with my kids.
@@johnmarble4873 I always felt Paul Jr could have gotten a lot more done if Paul Sr would have gotten off his back and left him alone.
@@jeffhale2278 Jr was the whole reason OCC had any success to begin with. He was the creative mind that let designs stand out. If Sr had his way, every bike would be the same with a fat wheel and stupidly long handle bars.
@@johnmarble4873 yes you can
@@johnmarble4873 you may have just posted The ideal comment,, Totally agree on the All the sudden some ( catastrophic ) gloom and doom on seemingly every episode,, Haven't bothered watching this Clown show in years..
Look up Jay Leno's opinion on the quality, safety, and design of Orange County Choppers' bikes. He said that they were total crap.
@@nitromartini1422 I know Jay Leno. He thinks he's an authority on everything. Yes, like all brands, some might be junk, but not all.
@@nitromartini1422 did you really need Jay Leno to point that out??
@@Hellcat71782 : It helps. He bought one of these pieces of crap; I didn't.
@@animewolfvideos1724 : You don't know anybody. You are just another keyboard warrior.
So shut up.
@@nitromartini1422 kiss my ass.
Jesse James nailed it when he called OCC "cake decorators".
@@ramosel Billy Lane, Jesse James, Indian Larry those guys know how to make a motorcycle. OCC not so much.
My thing is they got the hate for that but never claimed to produce performance bikes.. common sense your getting a vanity bike.. so he really only pointed out the obvious with that statement
@@ramosel I think it was cake toppers. That's what automotive fab shops call those folks
True...but his bikes are out dated themselves...
@@efeaster3680 Everything gets outdated.
Their bikes are a joke
WHAAAAT? You mean a highlighter green bike with GEICO on the side and a supercharger between the rider and the bars isnt cool? ha
They are nasty 🤢
So are they.
@@robertthomason8905 they are advertising tools. 2 or 3 episodes of building the company bike. The TV time was well worth the cost. Was funny how everyone sounded and rode better than the last 😂 it's was good financially for OCC and the companies that ordered them. And the show will entertain people for ever ,on streaming platforms.
@@robertthomason8905 do you know this from experience or just following the lead sheep? Lol
MY friend bought a soft tail from them. He said the bike was unrideable, poor finish, and the motor lacked power. He sold it and bought a USED one owner Harley with low miles. No issues.
Ok.
As seen from films here, they just used a Standard engine.
I feel sorry for the poor people that purchased one.
They probably paid around $100k and now those bikes are maybe worth $20K
@@SoDogtravels you mean celebrities who don’t ride any way.
Junk like that are pretty much status symbols.
@@Zachary772k, if you part it out, $1500 if you want to sell the whole thing.
Since most were promotional purchases, the companies just wrote them off as advertising expense.
They got their high, and then they moved on, I don’t understand the bagger fad these days, what turds they are.
Everything those cake decorators ever built has turned out to be total junk
@@OldManMuskrat 🎂😂
Just like West Coast Customs…
@@timprescott4634 I've never seen them glue plastic rockets to their bikes or weld meteorites to them but I guess it really is all similar shit
Why are their builds so bad? I don’t know much about bikes
@@ThatHoosierKid17they are made for looks only. Their geometry is completely f*cked. They are quite possibly the most uncomfortable unrideable bikes ever made.
It’s crazy how entertainment today is listening to a computer give a synopsis of a show from 20 years ago. No good new shows, no more original human creation, just watching someone talk about an old show.
@@DwightCropduster also, the video didn’t mention anything about the quality of the bikes. lol
Passable entertainment , horrendously bad , unsafe , uncomfortable , virtually unusable motorcycles.
There a numerous reviews of Orange County bikes on CZcams that show just what pieces of junk these bikes are .
I still won't deny that several of the builders were more Artists than Metal workers. Seeing a Tank beeing hammered into an extreme shape by Rick Petco, was a blessing!
They aren't meant to be on the road. Complete junk.
It honestly wasn't the purpose to make rideable Bikes! They mostly became built as Advertising for a Company, to be exhibited in the Headquarters, as the one bike with a lot of tools as components.
These reality shows are a joke they always have a deadline to meet and fortunately for them they always seem to meet it
The company went bankrupt after the show was cancelled, because no one wanted to buy their junk without the hour long advertisement on Discovery channel. The only thing left of occ is a restaurant at the Harley dealer in Tampa with a couple of the "bikes" they made in it.
Clearwater
The building is still there. The ne with the big O.C.C. By there just a couple weeks ago
It was OCCs own fault for going bankrupt. Watching the show, these guys would pack their bags going anywhere and everywhere. I'm surprised they didn't rent those massive Hummers, being in Africa, and watching lions mating. They really knew how to piss away their money. They thought their show would last forever.
There in Florida... stilling building bikes..😂
Paul Sr's business parter sued him alleging Sr used company funds for personal gain, which led to Sr. going bankrupt and having to surrender their building to the bank to avoid foreclosure. Then bankruptcy trustees sued Jr and Sr for alleged improper business transfers that gutted OC Iron Works before it also went belly-up. Jr also sued Sr at one point over Sr. allegedly trying to muscle Jr. out of his 20% stake in the original OCC. These guys are accused of a lot of shady business deals in addition to supposed quality issues on their builds.
Exile, Indian Larry Legacy crew, many smaller nameless custom builders do waaay better than these clowns ever did.
@@OntarioBearHunter Indian Larry had more creativity in his pinky then the father and son had. I met him once at a swap meet in Jersey a few years before his wreck. RIP
I always loved both Indian Larry’s old school bikes and Exile / Russell’s cool machines 👍🏻 as well he always built some of my favourite bikes that ever appeared on tv 📺. He definitely had some really cool unique ideas with customization that I have never seen before he did it then it seemed years later or even sooner many other’s ripped off his cool ideas here and there. I also liked Martin bros builds. And just Joe himself as a cool mellow person. He also had some really cool ideas and is a great fabricator as well.
To be fair to OCC I did like some of Paul Jr’s ideas and his overall personality is cool and friendly but couldn’t stand Paul Senior one bit ! The constant drama with him was just way to much all the time, over nothing he treats his own son like a piece of crap 💩. I would have quit working for him in about 30 seconds on the first day. I don’t even know how his other employees ever put up with Paul Senior’s B. S. even for a single day, let alone a full month or years 🤣 I would walk the hell away and leave that eternally grumpy 😡 old bastard alone to build it himself!
Indian Larry's bikes blew their doors off. After he passed away I missed watching Larry make bikes
Indian Larry was a prime example of how you build a bike. His builds were more traditional but he still managed to make them unique and fresh.
Those were supposed to be six figure bikes back when the show aired, but I’ve heard of at least one being sold for $14,000. Reality TV didn’t do the motorcycling world any favors by creating the trend towards these big, long, poor handling, and poorly manufactured bikes.
The 6 figures was an advertising cost. They may have spent 100k on a bike, but most of that was to be featured on an episode. Having the main characters on a super popular show mention your company name in connection to a bike continuously over the course of an hour? 100k is cheap. An ad spot for 30 seconds during an episode of OCC probably cost more.
Bikes and beard channel bought 1 for 8 k
@@jimmorrison306 they’ve been resold less than 10k numerous times now. Nobody can keep them running.
All the bikes with those absurdly long front forks are only for long straight roads! And some hadn't even a brake in front! They became made only to be exhibited:
Never liked them...99% were tacky.
A stock Harley has far more beauty than their cotton candy creations.
Plus their fighting was BORING.
The POW one was prob the best by a long shot. That was class that one.
They were junk bikes! Creativity? They were junk! They were facades
@@DOMINICDIGIACOMO The only bike I would buy would be a replica of the Spider-Man bike.
I think the show was a lot of drama but Jesse James build a better bike on the bike build off
Jesse James good builder
As a kid i loved their bikes, as an adult whose been riding for a few years now, i think:
"Damn those look uncomfortable to ride."
Amen
See my post above.. lol..uncomfortable and dangerous
they R.
They build nothing but rigids which ride like shit.
Their bikes are boat anchors. Their show is one big lie.
They are great @ collecting dust in the garage but *not on the road*
Paul jr was class act . Very talented and a good bike designer . His dad never wanted Paul jr to out shine him and was a very destructive person . Thumps up to Paul JR . 👍, good guy !
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Paul Jr! He truly is a talented individual.
Totally nailed it!
Paul Jr always seemed to be an awesome guy with great skills and a good personality that was fun to be around that were always rained on by the absolutely miserable old man. I just couldn’t handle watching Sr. freak out all the time and he was always jealous that Paul JR. had all the talent and people actually like him and wanted to work with him without Sr’s interference on everything !
🤔 I wonder why ? Just Kidding, any random fool can easily see why! 🤣.
Jr. was all about the design and fabrication of custom parts and/or one-off builds. Sr. was all about switching out some random factory parts with other "off the shelf" factory made or aftermarket parts.
That's the equivalent of switching the incandescent bulb with an led and claiming you're a custom lamp builder.
Paul jr was never a class act bro
I’ve seen clips of builders reviewing these bikes. Not only is it poor quality but dowsed with safety issues
It was a drama, not a tutorial on building. Now Indian Larry, Jesse James, and Billy Lane are legit. They're not just a dramatic reality show
@@tetlow2 billy Lane. Very legit. In prison
I blame the old man for the quality of their builds. He had the mentality of a , “ get er done “ iron worker , and didn’t possess the artistic temperament it takes to combine sculpture and technical ability.
The way I understood it was that they made "show" bikes. Not ment to go cross country. Something for the main lobby of a corporation, done up in a style to match said corporations business.
Ive seen a few of them over the years at shows. They are nice. The owners were never raving about them though. Usually had complaints. Now A Bourget is a thing of beauty.
They NEVER said how much these poles if junk cost their customers!
50 k and up
I always called it a motorcycle assembly show. Parts came in from vendors, the boys assembled them, then everybody stood there and said “that’s really a badass bike”. Meanwhile, their competitive shows would have actual bike builders, who did everything in-house. Big difference!
Black widow chopper was 🔥
Agreed, have to admit I really did like the chopper!
Mechanically They're junk, they were meant to be showoff art pieces for advertising for whatever company had them built, not functional riding motorcycles
Dont care about bikes but i did like watching it. Tuttles, Vin, Rick, Cody. It was good shit.
I totally get it. Never an occ. but never an HD for me. I don’t like being like everyone else. There’s nothing wrong with HD but it’s way to mainstream for myself. To each their own
Many of the bikes were bought with corporate dollars by marketing people who really knew nothing about bikes. Worked out until someone tried to ride it.
It very soon became clear that OCC didn't create motor cycles but three-dimensional advertising bill-boards in the form of motor cycles. Their business was advertising not automotive.
Bikes and beards bought a enclosed trailer for 5k and an OCC chopper came with it.That says volumes
I thought it was 9k. Trailer, bike, remote control geico boat, and a fancy watch in a box.
they've now made multiple videos of them trying to get it to run. that says even more.
@@kenbrown2808 the bearded mechanic is still working on it lmao
@@Third_eyee and as of the last video, it still isn't running consistently.
Don’t let anyone fool you. The only people that knew anything about motorcycles on that show was Rick and Vinny
Mostly Jrs fault. Junior is the one screaming up and down that he is the one that made these bikes, not his dad. So it’s hard to hold Sr responsible for the crappy bikes Jr insisted he made.
These eternal fight between them was completely stupid
I liked the show because it was bikes but these aren't proper custom bikes they're theme bikes.
If John Deere wanted a bike the bike would have a harvester part cobbled onto it somehow.
Hideous pieces of crap with zero creativity
If you bought occ chopper for it to be a daily rider, and expected it to be a daily with no problems a HARD TAIL lol you jus lol
I’m laughing at everyone saying these were junk! What if I told you the clients only wanted the bikes to bring awareness to their company! They got 45 minutes of advertising on prime time television!
Truly amazing people don’t get that….
@@magyverled Most of the companies didn't need it.
I remember when this show was on I thought it was the worst piece of crap. And then I saw this clipped up content of yours. There’s always new bars to be set.
I used to watch discovery channel and watch this show. The crazy part is this is now 20 years ago. Wtf. Time flies.
You're BUYING The NAME
They made movie props that didn't run. Sr. Didn't do anything except provide a company name, which he has now lost. OCC is bankrupt.
The build quality was absolutely terrible. I saw the CAT chopper up close. The welds were abysmal, weld splatter, grind marks on the frame then painted?!? I was shocked to say the least.
Jessie James is a better bike builder than everyone on orange county put together
I always regarded OCC choppers as art. All or most of the mods were about aesthetics, and they made the end product less practical for actual riding.
They built Christmas ornaments.
Jesse James built bikes.
Indian Larry built bikes.
What's the point of this vid aside of wasting my life to watch?
@@user-cl9xk9mi9o Right... It's like we didn't already know the bikes they made weren't junk... Nice looking show bike's, but that's as far as it goes. Seen them up close years ago but would NEVER buy one...
@@user-cl9xk9mi9o maybe same reason you commented and same reason I commented on your comment cos I'm just like you 😅 if you comment on my comment you're gonna make me comment back and we are gonna have to add up all the time lost in our lives 😁 im excellent at that 🤣
But seriously I totally agree with you I had the same experience 😉
Are you really asking that while scrolling through YT shorts?
@jegr3398 😂 yeah my man's wasting his own life 😂
Their wars triggered my PTSD… and I didn’t even know I had PTSD until this show came along!!!
i remember watching an episode where they were test riding the latest creation , the bike broke and the camera cut away but you heard Senior say "Have We Got Any Cable Ties" that says it all.
In fairness, you're out in the middle of nowhere with a film crew, what are you most likely to be able to get, cable ties or a welding rig?
Biscuits and por n shirt. I can’t believe they made those. We didn’t start calling that gas station that to be nice. They actually are proud to be called that now it seems. Mrs Helen did make awesome biscuits though
I don’t ride. Bikes were lame. But I watched every episode of this show! We all did.
The show started off as a Motorcycle customising show and ended up as a spin off from EastEnders.
I was obsessed with Senior vs Junior, I couldn’t get enough.
I’m gay also
Their bikes remind me of the moped, with the 5 hp briggs and stratton, that you buy at Walmart
Ha, I bought a Bradlees “chopper” in the 70s as a kid and it was better built than anything coming out of occ.
Their bike were show pieces. Uncomfortable and hard to ride. The biggest mistake they made was building that giant shop. Expanding is the death of many businesses. Not sure what they were thinking, the amount of bike they needed to sell to pay for it, wasn’t really possible.
I'm sorry for the people that bought one of them bikes they got swindled and ripped off
Perfect example of people will buy whatever you're selling no matter how ridiculous it is.
No chopper company will ever surpass Harley Davidson. Too legendary.
So many people who bought these motorcycles say how crap they are. There has to be some truth to it.
People forget OCC was primarily in the advertising industry
They would often run into problems during a build. I can't remember one time when they fixed the problem properly
I never needed to be convinced to never buy an OCC
Most of these bikes look nice- but they seem to be more display pieces rather than something you'd want to ride on any regular basis. It's like the _Pimp My Ride_ cars ending up neglected, abandoned, or in junkyards...
Yeah, but what really matters is they were built under a rediculus schedule by people that hate each other
The fact that they was below Harley quality is scary I didn’t know you could get lower
I will never forget when Sr. and Jr. went up against Jesse James in a Motorcycle build off. Sr. ended up building a snow mobile looking bike. You had to lay down on it to drive it. He ended up coming in last. Jesse James came in first or course.
I remember that build off, but I thought Jr won.....
Jr did win that one
Bikes and beards bought an Orange County bike and said it was the worst money he ever spent. It cost him 6 grand
I've seen some reputable videos of guys that run bike stores and are also mechanics warn people NOT to buy anything from OCC. Overly expensive and severely lack HP.
I remember my dad watching this show when I was a little kid. I always thought the dad was hulk hogan and always thought that he’d throw his son through a wall any second. lol.
First season was pretty damn good.
The Original episodes were interesting and kinda cool
Say what you want about their bikes, there is absolutely no denying they changed television forever.
The bikes were great for TV, but not for the road.
I've been watching a guy that bought the Geico bike. He's had so much work just getting it running again.
I met these guys at Edinburgh Castle about 15 years ago. Junior and Senior were absolute arseholes. Mikey was an absolute gentleman and took time to chat and get photos taken with my daughter and I. You could see he was embarrassed at the way the other two were acting.
I work at OCC in Clearwater. Paul senior has been on a couple charity runs in the past 2 yrs. At least 2 of those runs his own bike died on the runs! He's a joke
There's a reason channels are dedicated to those bikes being trash and not the other way around. Even the OCC guys were surprised when their bikes would start. You don't have to be a bike expert to see that that's a problem lol
They were all about the look. I don’t ride but friends that know bikes said they weren’t functional.
Basic models were about 80 grand,they sell 2nd hand for about 10 .
These bikes were lucky they held together long enough to be presented
OCC is still in business, they simply moved to Fla and Paul Jr has his own gig now.
They had their speciality bikes and their fleet bikes. Over priced and low quality. This was the mainstream back in the late 1990’s and 2000’s. People literally dropped $20-$30k on bike projects. 10 years later they weren’t that good or they never finished and hoping to re-cover some of that money. By the 2010’s the large tire era was gone.
It was a very popular thing and that is what OCC delivered.
The one that really stuck out to me as stupid was a medieval theme where they put chain mail on the exhaust I believe
You can buy something that has four tires for half the price and it won't fall over on you
Much rather have a far better and more American than any… Honda VTX 95% American!!!🇺🇸
They made show bikes for T.V. If you want a rider see Sr and he will make a custom rider for ya..Custom engine, frame, etc..Basic and classy with a modest amount of flair..
I used to love this show when I was younger. I used to pop a bunch of Vicodin make pizza and just zone out.
@adrianpadilla1030 I popped open a bottle of 151, made pizza and did the safe from like 15 to 18.
@@djnone8137I do cocaine
They were not meant to be daily ridden or even ridden at all, they were like advertising for each company or thing they donated too.
They eventually made some street bikes after people requested them.
Its not in defense on the Tuttles, just saying at least report on them correctly.
I saw a video recently about an OC chopper that had been through three different mechanics trying to solve the problems
They should have called that show "Real Drama Queens of Orange County".
I always thought that these guys were 100% authentic pure and hardcore motorcycle riding & fabricating bad asses. The yelling and screaming is what did it for me. The Super Man bike too; what a turn radius!
When I was younger I found a bike building tv show on discovery.
I wanted to see the process of building bikes, but all I learned was how to trash doors and other office stuff.
One of the most chaoticly shitty tv shows ever
LEGO building at best. They never built a motor. Never made a soft tail rigid.
I don't ride, but I've never seen a bike they made that looked like it was uncomfortable for long rides.
It's more of an art studio than a bike shop.
I’d take a sportster 883 on 2 flat tires over anything OCC has ever built