The Hall of Fame Career of Scott Niedermayer
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- He was a winner everywhere he went, from junior hockey to the NHL.
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His skating was second to none. Didn’t even look like he was trying to go fast. Great player. One of 5 players to win all 3 cups with the Devils.
He owes his skating abilities to his mom who taught him and his brother to skate and enrolled them in figuring skating to aid their development. She taught power skating classes in Cranbrook in exchange for ice time for her sons.
Just crazy that his final season is still an awesome stat line for a defenseman. Probably could have played longer, but he'd already accomplished literally everything he could have in his career.
I just looked at the stats for that season, only 10 Defensemen in the NHL that season scored more than his 48 points that season. He absolutely chose to retire, retirement did not choose him.
1995 Game 2 of the SCF, Devils down 2-1 in the third, Detroit dominating the game. Scott Niedermayer scores on an end to ender to tie the game. If he didn't score that goal, Devils don't win the cup that year, I'm convinced of that.
My favorite Niedermayer memory is a fight he had with Valeri Kameski where Kaminski's jersey got stuck on Niedermayer's head. When the fight was broken up, Niedermayer skated to center ice and took off the rags jersey and kicked it into the air.
My favorite player of all time. Hands down one of the best skaters in the history of the league.
The 2 Scotts were both instrumental to NJ winning 3 Stanley Cups.. It was a true pleasure watching them both play as a Devils fan.. Go Devils!...
Will you believe I put in my search. " Hockey Guy Niedermayer" yesterday hoping you had done one of these before. I came up on your Kariya & Niedermayer Anaheim jersey retirement night video. Another beauty but several years old. Now today as if a dream realized... .. Scotty like his entire family is all class. Scott is tragically overlooked as he literally won every major award a hockey player could ever win. He is a living legend, one of the greatest of all time, and still so very very underrated.
Absolute elite in many ways. Benchmark for mobile defensemen in my book. He played hockey the right way.
I believe that he and Ray Bourque were the two best all around defensemen to ever play in the NHL.
Accomplished everything a player could have including winning a cup with his brother.
Smooth skating, calm, with vision, superb fitness and the rare gift of the extra gear.
I loved watching him play.
There’s a reason he’s one of the few players to have his number retired by two teams. Legend
As a sens fan that '07 cup final really drove home how good Neidermeyer was cause i mean....every game in that series, as brief as it was, he and Giguere had me PULLING MY HAIR OUT!
An absolute legend and almost always fun to watch, unless he was lined up against your favorite team in the biggest best of 7 series of the playoffs xD
Refereed a few of his kids games while he was coaching and got to shake his hand afterwards. Super humble, super nice guy. Always looked up to him growing up here in southern california. Todd Marchant, Niedermayer's teammate, was also a coach and yelled at me for missing a high stick once haha. Good times.
the guy who made me a hockey/devils fan, shares the same birthday as myself and the reason why i wear 27. if he didn’t play under Lou in NJ so many more people would recognize how amazing he was. absolute legend
I forgot he even played for the Ducks. Those Devils teams though......my god.
@O K that was a good ducks team. Pronger crushing it in the playoffs.
@@ryanm4281 They were s lot of fun to watch
@The Hockey Guy: I'd love it if you do a career video of Steve Rucchin!
You hear other players talk about him and the big take away is how he could play half a game and not even look tired. One of the hardest workers ever
Still can’t get over how good he was in the 2010 Olympics!!! Paved the way for some great leaders that year for guys like Patrice Bergeron, Johnny Toews and Sid “the kid”
When he lifted the Cup with the Ducks, he looked like he was 50 years old with his shaggy grey beard. He was the oldest-looking 33 year old I've ever seen.
I started going white around then. I’m 39 and I’ve been totally white for 3 or 4 years now.
Him and Rob holding the cup. Iconic.
I remember watching him when I was a kid going to Kamloops Blazers games. I watched Iginla and Recchi as well. What a lucky guy I was growing up :)
a silk-smooth Scott on one side, Scott the treeman / mean Chris on the other :) what pairings and what a defender + a winner wherever he played, winning a Cup with his brother, a true Hall of Famer
Neidermayer was one of my favourites as a kid. Beauty.
Great video on a great player. The perfect defenseman? In my books anyway. Every tool a defenseman could have he possessed. One additional thought, The Worst trade in Toronto Maple Leaf history. Trading his draft rights away. Imagine if he was drafted by the Leafs how their history would have changed.
A rough summary (with implications):
1991-1992: still the same, as Niedermayer was not ready yet
1992-1993: Broke through the Kings, still lose to Montreal thanks to Patrick Roy
1993-1994: Beat Vancouver, possibly beat NYR; Leafs still trade for Sundin in search of some scoring help (barring any pieces in the Niedermayer to NJD trade going to Toronto alongside Kurvers)
1994-1995: Leafs beat Flyers in Final; Devils lose to Penguins in Round 2
1995-1996: Devils miss by bigger margin; Leafs beat Gretzky’s Blues, lose to Detroit
1996-1997: Devils miss, Brodeur does not score; Leafs still miss playoffs, albeit smaller margin
1997-1998: Devils lose to Sabres; Leafs clinch final playoff spot in Central; lose to Dallas
1998-1999: Leafs still sign Cujo, lose to Stars in Final; Devils lose to Sabres
1999-2000: Devils struggle against Panthers but prevail, fall to Leafs, who fail to solve Dallas’s lockdown defense
2000-2001: Devils fall to Hurricanes; Leafs blow through to the Final, fall to Avalanche in 6
2001-2002: Devils miss playoffs; Leafs cruise to Final; lose to powerhouse Detroit
2002-2003: Devils fall in Round 1; Leafs solve Flyers, Lightning but not Ottawa in Round 3
2003-2004: Devils miss playoffs without Scott Stevens & Ken Daneyko; Leafs beat Flames in Cup Final. Oh, and they don’t have Bryan McCabe, but they may have Tomas Kaberle
2005-2006: Niedermayer jumps ship to Anaheim, hoping to win a Stanley Cup with his brother, leaving the Leafs in worse shape defensively just as the Devils begin to return to prominence
It's worth mentioning that he left New Jersey and signed with the Ducks so he could play with his brother and win him a cup which to me is noble, AND it came true.
It's worth pointing out that he took less money per year AND less years to sign with the Ducks to play with his brother. As a 19 year old huge Devils fan at the time, I HATED him for it. I almost took it personally. But as time went on I now think that was understandable. Though to be fair, the thing that pissed me off most was something he said. During an interview or press conference after signing he said something along the lines of "I wanted to play for a good organization that was gonna be competitive" And I was like "uhhhh, you've won 3 stanley cups and been to the playoffs every year but one. Is that not a good, competitive organization?"
how was he only a 5x All-Star ?
Loved watching him play. An excellent defenseman and just made everyone else better.
Good stuff THG. One thing i think about with this guy is how many Norris trophies he would have won if he didn't play at the same time Nick Lidström did.
He won everything! It's like he was destined to NOT play for the Leafs.
If he did, Leafs would have won 3 cups (1994, 2003, 2004), including 6 consecutive Finals (lose to Stars 1999 & 2000, Avs 2001, Wings 2002); Devils don’t advance past Round 2. Niedermayer still signs in Anaheim in 2005
You would think Toronto would have learned, stop trading away 1st round draft picks
They actually traded that pick 3 years before 1991 is the crazy thing
No mention on WHY he signed with Anaheim?
He wanted to win a Cup with lil bro Rob.
hes my hero for kicking that ranger jersey.
I always remember the year ge won fastest skarer at the skills competition and the commentators being g shocked by the time because he didn't look like he was going that fast and his stride was so effortless. He was the one dman that always had the green light to join the rush on the Devils because he never made a mistake and he could always get back with ease.
Stats don't show it but at the defensive end his incredible skating and incredible IQ meant he was playing comfortably within himself while getting to twice as many places he could be useful as most other defensemen. He'd contest the puck on the boards, deflect a shot, clear the puck all in a play where most defensemen would have only been in position to get involved in one of those instances.
One of my all time favourite players, great video!
Excellent video!
I agree with your points about the Devils style and Niedermayer likely scoring more on other teams, but it's worth mentioning the Devils were 1st in the league in goals scored in 2001 and 2nd in 1994, 1999 and 2000.
Yup. Just because the Devils were good at Keeping the other team from scoring, everyone assumes they had trouble scoring too, which wasn't the case.
I had a funny experience at a rink in California when I was a kid, I looked at him an was gonna say something but didn't wanna bug him an he looked at me basically knowing I knew who he was but we both just smiled an I went to the locker room it was super funny
You cant even blame Anaheim for retiring his number even though he only played 5 season, he was HUGE for that franchise and led them to their first cup. He was a Big deal there.
Just an awesome player, pretty much never made mistakes on the ice
As a Rangers fan I remember Niedermayer all too well. The EFFING! NJD would not have won those cups without him. Great rundown of a great player! I do kinda wish we got some +/- numbers in these vids (with all the appropriate disclaimers of the stat) but I know THG has reasons, eh?
Good work Shannon, as always- keep on churning, man!
Edit:
First? Wow
I noticed you mentions both Niedermayer and Lidström as two of the best defencemen of all time, or best you ever seen rather. You mention both as being Leader of men, both got that aura of a real Champions about them.
As they both Won a ton of cups as well as throphys, playing exactly during the same era, battling for Stanley cups! Norris etc. Who was the better one, by eye-test and stats in your opinon? In which part of the game did one outshine the other? This debate is so Spicey and I think it really gives something extra to it as they played during the same era.
P.s thank you for doing what you do. When hockey itself couldnt make me intrested enough, your points and different views on some topics of the game have got me so in to the NHL, and how I can think about the game i didnt know I could 🙏🏻
I remember when Scott left to go to Anaheim I was a little pissed till it came out he wanted to play with his brother then I was kinda of cool with it . He did turn down a better payday to play with him
Yeah, it must’ve been tough for Scott and Rob’s parents in the 03 Finals because one had to win, the other had to lose. He wanted a Cup win with his brother more than the money.
@@Mansini77 in 2003 the parents wore rooting for Rob because Scott already had 2 cups. There was an interview with Scotts mom during the cup where she says that
@@jinco I remember that as well
We Devils fans were so spoiled for so long with Fetisov, Niedermayer, Stevens, Driver, Daneyko, Rafalski, etc etc patrolling the blue line. Sometime in 2013 i saw a defenseman make an obviously bad (even to a layman) mistake and i was confused and didn't know what was happening. Our defense went like 20 years always making the right play. Sometimes simple, sometimes skilled, but always the right play. Nowadays we're happy only making a couple bonehead mistakes on D per game. Those guys were always ice cold man.
The ushers at the Anaheim Arena had a Stanley Cup Pool in 94. Everyone else picked the Red Wings. I picked the New Jersey Devils.
Niedermayer used his stick as a sword and very dangerously swung it full force at Peter Worrell's head.
It rarely gets mentioned.
im impressed how shannon never mentioned lidstrom in this video. lidstrom and niedermayer was the GOATS of defensmen in the late 90s and 00s. and yes, i also think niedermayer could play 4 more years-kinda like lidstrom did. if the norris didnt get to any of those 2....it was something wrong.
You could notice when Scott Niedermayer wasn't in a line-up he should be in. He had that much of an effect on what was happening on the ice. Also, interesting fact, he decided to skip the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin and, well that didn't go so well for the Canadians as we all know. Would they have medaled at least with that line-up, had Scott Niedermayer been there...I'm actually gonna say yes. Maybe not gold, but he was that good.
6:55 they were actually still the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim in his Hirst season there
You forgot to mention unless I missed it but he won that cup in Anaheim with his brother Rob. Wasn't his brother being there the main reason he signed?
Scott took less money to move to Anaheim & sign to play with his brother while also being closer to his Vancouver home.
this man won at every level! so happy he was a devil! kinda sad he went to Anaheim but it happens
The Neidermayer pick trade for Kurvers might be the worst value trade I've ever seen in NHL history. Markus Naslund for Alex Stojanov is also up there.
Imagine if Dangle was around lol
He had a giveaway at the Olympic 2010 finals that almost cost the game for Canada. Luckily Roberto saved it (barely) and Crosby scored the next possession.
The only Devil I wasn't upset with that he left. Can't blame a guy for wanting to win a cup with his brother. Was happy for him.
Great profile. I'm a big NJD fan and I often find myself pointing out that there's another reason -- beyond the defensive system the Devils played -- why his offensive numbers were not great over the course of his career.
Niedermayer was never a classic "offensive defenseman" that you often see in the NHL. In his era, guys like Larry Murphy, Phil Housley, Ray Bourque, Nicklas Lidstrom and Brian Leetch piled up lots of points -- with many of them generated while playing the point on the power play. Niedermayer simply wasn't that kind of defensemen. He generated offense in two ways: (1) making smart, effective first passes out of the defensive zone, and (2) by jumping up into the play as a fourth forward. I even seem to remember him dressing as a forward a few times very early in his career when the Devils were dealing with some injuries among their forwards.
Interestingly, the Devils playoff success over the course of the 1994-2003 era was closely tied to their ability to find that classic power play "quarterback." Bruce Drive filled that role effectively in 1994-95. The team went through several disappointing season after that -- partly because they never replaced him, and their offense really suffered as a result. They didn't get back on track as a perennial contender until they signed Brian Rafalsk from Europe to fill this role after another disappointing early playoff exit in 1999.
1995 Stanley Cup Game 2 ⛸
2007 Conference Finals Game 5 off Lidstrom's stick.
It's still so weird to me that he didn't spend his whole career as a Devil. He was such a key piece for that franchise. Same thing with Leetch. It was just bizarre when he ended up in Toronto & then Boston.
Very solid player
Niedermayer, Stevens, Albelin, Rafalski, Daneyko, Driver…it really wasn’t fair, was it? That’s a monster top 6 d core. PS, exactly, about the Selke. If Guy Charbonneau, Joel Otto and Kris Draper played today, they’d probably never have won that award.
Is he the only one to pull the power move over a younger brother in the NHL?
"Ok I'm coming over, taking over team and be captain, just so you can stop whining on my 3 cups, I'll get you one too."
Off Topic: Can you talk about the NHL 2021 Prospect Tournament. I just found it on CZcams.
One of my first fave players (along with Sergei Fedorov and Henrik Zetterberg), and agreed that he was so fluid out there. I wonder if he could pull a Jagr in this day and age and be Duncan Keith
From 1994 to 2003 the Devils were 8th amongst teams in goals for…. Played the trap yeah but they still could put the puck in the net.
And let's not forget, he was one of the best skaters to ever lace'm up.
Kamloops Blazer great!
He would be on my all time team on D. Top 6 !
Oh Toronto lol
"He did the unthinkable. He left New Jersey" -- Uhhh yea....unthinkable....(Holik, Rafalski, Gomez, Kovalchuck, Parise, Gionta, Langenbunner, and prob more I am forgetting)
My cousin went to school with him at norkam very nice guy met him good bc. Boy
Now THAT's consistency. Speaking of which..
We should start doing these things in alphabetical.. Starting here with Niedermayer.
Career video / Jyrki Lumme
I'm waiting on the Kirk Muller and Bobby Carpenter career videos 😄
0:49 Dano too 🏆🏆🏆🏒
Captain Canada in 2010 also!!
do one on brodeur
How about his fellow HOF cohort inductee and 10 yr senior Chris Chelios next?
He was dominant with the blazzers
you should do a career video of Denis Potvin, dont think you did one.
the 07 playoffs he rocked hansen with a borderline headshot?
I thought Gretzky called the ducks a Mickey Mouse franchise lol.
Wrong! Wayne called the "Mighty Ducks" a "Mickey Mouse franchise", which was true- literally- because it was owned by "Disney" initially. Then Disney sold it and was renamed "Ducks" and got Scot N, and some other- choice- first rounders. And the rest is "Stanley Cup" history...
Actual Ducks Legend
Leafs could've used him, but.....hope they can draft a guy just like that soon.
Just a small detail. He went to Anaheim because he wanted to play with his brother. Otherwise I’m pretty sure he would stayed in NJ.
I started following NHL just before the lock out (TBL 2004 cup is my all time favourite, i hate them these days though :D) but i remember calling Ducks a shitty team all day long untill they won their cup :D Niedermayer-Pronger tandem has to be some all timer lever stuff
Just seeing those two play made me grow as a hockey fan, it was insane :D
Can you make i career video about vincent lecavalier
Hoping for some Vladdy Konstantinov and Pavel Bure next 🔥
If you do your digging on THG playlists, you’ll find a few Vlad videos.
If only the Leafs didn't trade that Scott Niedermayer pick. The Leafs would have had
Niedermayer Kubina
Kaberle Mccabe
Colaiacovo White
In the early to mid 2000's. Would have been such a sick team.
They may not have traded for McCabe given the state of their defense back when they acquired him IRL
Me: How didn't he win the Norris in '07?
*sees Lidstrom won it that year*
Ah.
I remember stupid Domi cheap shot elbow in a playoff game on Niedermayer. Devils won series. Him and Stevens, best 1-2 in history. Has my vote. Edit: Watch video first. I totally forgot about Him and Pronger. Stevens and Niedermayer still has my vote, but damn!
Signed with the Ducks so he could play with his brother.
👍🏻👍🏻
I mean, he left New Jersey to help his brother win a Cup, I don't remember it being shocking or anything.
Him leaving Jersey was shocking to me because I figured he would spend his career there.
Proset Rookiecard
Best Defensemen of the Clutch and Grab era: 1. Nicky
2. Prong
3. Scott Niederma
I think you got 2 and 3 backwards there
@@kingcarl2012 Pronger got the added physical dimension- and mean streak to boot- to his game plus a good 4-5 inches on him. That physical- rough- game made Pronger own the opposite team when on the ice... Total pawnage for Pronger! But I can see the argument for Scott over Chris- but i don't see a valid opinion that doesn't include these 3 in their- best of their era- top 5...
I guess I'm pretty young (born 2000) but I honestly didn't know he was a devil
I like how you keep pointing out how guys didn't win norris trophies in the 2000's. Well that's because lidstrom was busy winning them all haha.
Niedermayer is good no doubt, but was he really better than the great Tom Kurvers?
I remember the gutless cheap shot he gave Peter Forsberg. Very uncharacteristic for Niedermayer.
NIEDS
Less then 200 goals? Thought he'd have more
No disrespect to New Jersey, but for as long as he played their, I'm surprised he even got close. I won't doubt the effectiveness of the trap, but dang if it didn't make for some boring hockey. If you weren't watching hockey back then, go see a NJ game from that era if you can, and that will explain why he didn't produce the way he could of elsewhere. Kinda like Barzel for the Islanders. Sorry for the book response!
@O K Most serious fans of a sport can *appreciate* the technique and execution of highly defensive styles of play; whether that's the same as the *suspense* of back-and-forth, wide open gameplay coming with an emphasis on offence (in hockey and basketball anyway), where leads are rarely safe, I kind of doubt.
I don’t think he should’ve won the conn smythe in 07 he only had 2 assists in the finals moen had 2 goals & 3 assists in the finals Andy McDonald had 5 goals & 3 assists in the finals, Sammy pahlsson had a goal & 2 assists in the finals, teemu had 4 assists in the finals their were several other guys who were deserving.