Deep Water (Hulu) - Review!
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- čas přidán 17. 03. 2022
- Ana de Armas and Ben Affleck play out the world's most dysfunctional marriage story in Hulu's latest original film. I explain what I liked & didn't like, the critical response, and how this all ties to...Licorice Pizza?!
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And this is why I love Dan Murrell and why he's my favorite movie critic. well thought out and does constructive meta criticisms of the criticism space in general.
If you think CZcamsrs are the creme de la creme of film criticism I imagine your brain would explode if you actually explored some great film critics. Who are all still in print BTW. That's where the best film criticism is.
“After all it is a stream-ing service"
I wasn’t expecting this pun and it made me laugh way more than it should have 😝
I giggled 🤭
Dan: "... We get to see Vic's snail collection..."
Me: "whoa whoa whoa, wait what?!"
📽🎬 *Ben Affleck ("Vic"):*
_"How's Tony?_
_I like him._
_He's actually got brains."_ 😊😬😵
I kept thinking it reminded me of unfaithful but choppier and then seeing Sam Levinson wrote this makes so much sense. He has a huge issue really creating dynamic relationships.
Never stop with these amazing openers.
Just watched it. I agree with Dan. What irked me the most was how 2-dimensional the Melinda character was written. Like, I wanted to know more what motivates her to cuckold Vic over and over and over again. It’s implied into one scene & it’s barely enough. Too many weird scenes.
Her motivations are changing during the movie. In the beginning, she wants to provoke her husband to some reaction - emotions, actions, expression may be madness. Later she knows he is reacting but in a different way she expects- she continues to check how far he will act - it is kind of a game of her and her ego but last romance is pure curiosity if He will kill for her and when he did - her love to him start to be stronger again. It is understandable when You look into some histories of killer couples and how the psychology of those couples works.
Melinda is motivated by her constant need for passion and excitement. She talks about Vic being boring. She wants him to show his love for her with wild abandonment. That's why she let him sleep in her room only after he becomes a murder suspect. That excited her.
Spoilers
The movie was intriguing but what i really did not like is how he just put the guy's wallet in the tank, like why? Lol why take the wallet to begin with and if you take it, hide it better idiot.
@@MrFoolD I thought about that part too. It may be that he deliberately wanted his wife to find it so she can know that he kills for her. He knew she wanted a thrill from him that shows how much he loves her. Bear in mind that both of them are sick in the head.
@@MrFoolD I thought that bit was so random, you're the only person I've seen mention it
It's like Fatal Attraction but from the rabbit's point-of-view.
Love a Dan Rant and agree with you on a much broader sense. Our society has gone past a point of debate or discussion. On any issue. It’s always our down to right or wrong, not appreciating the subjectivity of art, opinion and even personal taste or preference. Glad you made this video Dan. This is why you are the up with the best of the CZcams critics out there.
I did watch the movie. And I believe that it was messy and that it dragged a bit. However I dont believe its boring and I actually enjoyed the performances of Affleck, De Armas, and the little girl. Would I recommend it? Probably not. Did I enjoy it? It's a soft yes for me.
Byw. Love your takes Dan. I have been a fan since the screen junkies days in 2012
To me, the last like 10 minutes was so bizarre and unintentionally funny that I came out positive on the movie as a viewing experience. I certainly didn’t love it, but the build up to those last 10 minutes was enough to justify watching to see those 10 minutes.
I also thought the reveal should have happened 30 minutes later.
This video was quite a ride, going from cheesy pun to Dan rant, lol. I thought the movie was ok and could see how it has a wide range of enjoyment.
6:28 This is where the fun begins...
Seriously though, Dan's worldview is what sets him apart from the other critics (at least for me). Listening to his points on how movies are made and how they are seen is manna for film lovers.
Well spoken on that semi-rant at the end.....would love if u reviewed some 40's/50's film noir and some gritty 60s/70s films
Love love LOVE the second half of this review. Thank you for that.
I'm glad I watched this review, because I had no interest in this movie so I would just skip it without giving it much thought. This was a great breakdown of what film discussion looks like today. I'm just so annoyed with it if I'm being honest. The "you just didn't get it" is the most lazy and downright condescending thing you can say to a person who doesn't agree with you. There's incredible arrogance that comes with you thinking you are the objective judge of what's good or bad
I find the fact that Dan feels he needs to explain that reviews are someone's personal opinion very sad. That should be understood by everyone.
Thanks Dan for teaching me a new term - "Chekhov’s gun."
Just having Ana de armas and Ben Affleck in this movie makes me want to subscribe to Hulu for the first time and I will definitely do that. Thank you for this review as always. 🙏🙏
Intro made me LOL Louve it.! 😁😁
One of the things I found sloppy about the plot was the situation with Vic and Mary (the black woman.) What was the purpose of the exchanges they were having? They had all this segsual (spelling it wrong on purpose) tension, but why? I thought it was leading somewhere lol.
stop being racist
@RunningOnEmpty Same lol. Me and my friend were like, "Is that her boyfriend, husband, or friend??" He could have literally been any of those lol
I have just found this channel & I couldn't agree more about the thoughts regarding this movie & the general tendency of so many people that think any level of disagreement must mean someone is "right" & someone else us "wrong." I only wish this was just a problem w/film criticism & not in so many other areas in the world! I feel this pain daily, in part, because I live in a small area that is very close-minded. So many have missed the memo that racism, sexism, etc is not acceptable. Anyway, thanks for an honest & genuine review! I have a feeling I will be visiting this channel often!
I need more dad jokes from Dan!
The most annoying thing with the Licorice Pizza snobs and their discourse was making it out to be the only problem was the age of the characters. The lead actress was 29 when the movie was filmed and the lead actor was 17. If the genders were swapped, you would’ve heard about this endlessly. But it almost never gets brought up and the Licorice Pizza snobs still complain the film is being criticized too much.
Males and females have different biological imperatives. This artificial movement to equate our sexual development to each other is stupid. The truth is only a gay or Testesterone deficient straight 17 year old would have an issue with getting with a 27 year old woman.
@@jakestroll6518 You do realize girls go through puberty earlier than boys right? And women stay fertile for a shorter time. So if anything, your BS "science" would prove the exact opposite of what you're trying to claim (it actually proves nothing).
Not a perfect movie but i enjoyed it non the less.
Glad you have your own channel to focus on your voice now as I have always enjoyed your opinion.
NAILED IT with this review!
The intro joke was gold 😆
YES THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP LICORICE PIZZA!!! I brought up some of those issues and got that same backlash from people.
Just a thought on the ad read: maybe mention the territories in which the advertised product is available? My default assumption is that sponsors' products are only available in the US (unless they're purely digital) which makes advertising significantly less effective on me.
Dan dropping facts at the end nice
I agree it was missing story and plot beats. The first 2/3 had very real tension built that you felt. Then it kind of fell apart in an attempt to complete plot points
There is just something of your delivery that made me laugh at your opening joke.
Well said!
I always like to listen to Dan because of exactly what he just said. In my eyes He gives a fair and objective OPINION on films. Regardless i watch what what i want to. No need for arguing , lets just enjoy films 👍🤟
WELL SAID DAN!!!!
Hey bro, love from England! Just wanted to ask if your gonna do a review for the upcoming crazy n wild slasher horror film titled X by the underrated director Ti West! I've heard extremely positive stuff about it since it premiered with people who saw it calling it probably the best slasher n overall horror film that's come out in the last couple of years! Curious to see what u think of it as I usually trust your reviews n I wanna know if it truly is worth me going to cinemas to see it as a big horror fan or should I just wait for it when it comes to a digital release! 🤷🙏👍🙌
He said at the end of the video he's reviewing it today!
Pretty much on point with this critique. Certain characters showing up at a certain place at key moments is s head scratcher
There is no right or wrong for liking or disliking a film. Film is art and art is *completely subjective.* Other forms of art, whether it's literature, music, or paintings are also subjective. I have never in my life, nor will I EVER be, someone who argues with a person who likes or doesn't like something I do. My enjoyment of a work of art is in NO WAY influenced by someone else liking or disliking it.
I do think there is a problem with how Twitter emboldens people to try and force our opinions on others. I think it's a huge problem with social media in general.
@@TheVileOne on any social media, including YT, people tend to engage more when they are angry. a video praising something tends to get less views than a video attacking it, especially if that thing is even remotely controversial. (or so it seems to me)
I agree with you totally Dan on this movie and movie reviewing.
Dan brings up a great point that I agree with. I usually try my best not to say "This movie is bad" but rather "I didn't like it." That difference shows that it's just my opinion and it won't be the same as everyone else's.
I would contend though, the argument, "You just didn't understand the movie" is as old as time and is not going away any time soon. And I agree with this sometimes. Sometimes I come out of a movie and ask, "What the heck were the reviewer watching when they reviewed this?" I don't think I experienced this with you Dan, you are always very prepared and logical with opinions in your reviews. However, despite someone's educational background and evidence that they are indeed not a dum dum, a reviewer can have an experience that is much different than someone else when watching a film. Case in point, The Josie and The Pussycat's film. No one "got it" when it first came out, but when I saw it, my experience was much different than reviewers. There can be an echo chamber when it comes to movies, and having a strong independent opinion is a hard thing to do, which is why you are a good reviewer Dan. You take into account several angles during reviews, and you don't discredit someone else's opinion.
I haven't seen or read any reviews of Licorice Pizza, but I liked your commentary/rant. Twitter users dont like the opinions of others? - I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked ... Well, not that shocked
Genuinely one of the most reasonable people I've ever seen love ya dan
For some reason they put it on Amazon Prime in the UK , i’m surprised that it wasn’t put on Disney+ in the UK because we’ve had R rated movies since last year
This movie was a good comedy for me. I could not stop laughing at the crap poor Ben had to put up with, they should make a part two lmao.
Dan, I agree that many Fans and critics are weaponizining the "you just don't get how to view this film" argument. However, it is undeniably true that sometimes one needs to shift their perspective in order to appreciate a particular performance or Film. I know I had to do this for many years with any Nic Cage performance I saw. I just didn't respect him, or his output until I read an interview explaining both his technique and goals as a performer. Suddenly I understood and enjoyed every performance I'd previously derided because I saw the method to his madness so to speak. That being said, I have no interest in seeing Deep Water. Thank you for your review. Even if there is some sort of artistic revelation in store for me, I'm OK to miss it 😉
One kind of Twitter reaction I saw: "No one else figured out what the snails were about!"
I mean, the meaning of the snails don't save such a movie.
What were they about?
@@tennysonparks2059 the author of the book was obsessed with snails
@@Roblox-jb2vf I want to read the book.
@@tennysonparks2059 hello again 👋
Love a good “Dan rant”. No one I know of is as measured and open to disagreeing with his opinion
Chekov's gun, Dan?
Surely that should be a phaser😉
So I guess on my list of movies to NOT watch, I'll Chekhov this one. Thanks Dan!
why is it on hulu in the usa but on amazon in the rest of the world ?
Solid point, Dan. That line of thinking (You have to like what I like) is very single minded, limiting, and selfish. I've seen the same response to people who don't like the new game Elden Ring. If you don't like it you either "Don't get it" or need to "Get Good" at the game. It's a lazy way to dismiss a person's valid criticism.
Thumbs up for that Dad joked intro
OK how many Dan's rants were cut off on the edit?
nope, this is not for me. Thanks for the review
Gone Girl was amazing though, I knew very little going into that and it made for a great experience.
The philosophical debate is interesting, I appreciate your take on things, maybe turn it into a video essay form. I think people would watch that.
Art is subjective and some people refuse to acknowledge that
So this isn't about the Horizon DeepWater Oil Spill? My environmental studies class is going to be a bit awkward now
There's a great movie with Kurt Russell and Mark Wahlberg about that!
I wasn't a fan of the ending. I feel like there was no closure. That's fine for some films. I don't know maybe that was intentional but I felt like this film would've benefitted.
You did go off on a tangent, but very well said.
This was a low budget Basic Instinct. It was so ridiculous.
It's on Amazon Prime in France maybe in some other countries
Also on Prime in India
It's on Prime in the UK.
LOL Dan that’s a dad joke The part where you said it is a streaming service
I got high and watching Ben Aflac drive that one guy in the woods is the funniest scene I love it.
While I agree with Dan, I wonder what his take on the CinemaBlend review on Turning Red would be.
I enjoyed the film for what it was.
Sadly, the whole point Dan makes about critics is just an internet thing. The echo chambers have made it so it's no longer sufficient to dislike/hate something, people feel the need to make others hate it, or feel bad for not hating it (just look at how people treat someone who likes the Star Wars sequels). I stopped using Twitter and Facebook quite a long while ago because they had just become cess pools of hate and negativity.
Awwwwwwww man 😆 you spent more time talking about licorice pizza and critics then Deep Water 😆 that says it all about what you think about the movie 😆
Can't wait for the day Dan realizes he's an active skeptic. The tools of critical thinking make themselves evident. I first noticed it in the Captian Marvel box office follow-up talking about the critics vs fan response. Let me just suggest 'Skeptics Guide To The Universe'. o7
Sounds like how people treated the Last Jedi.
5/5
I read the book before watching the movie. Brilliant decision. The book had so much more depth to it compared to the movie which felt so rushed
I was wondering if to watch Deep water, but decided probably not. Also, started Licorice pizza,but gave up after 30ish min cuz it just wasn't keeping me engaged, but i understand that is a me thing not a universal thing
Totally agree. This should be a free country.
Finally got myself to watch this movie and I very much disliked it. It had nothing to do with not understanding it, it just felt dull: It wasn't mysterious enough, not sexy enough, not deep enough. Completely agree that Melinda was a very shallow character; I am a psychiatrist so anything related to the human mind and behavior intrigues me, but this one just fell short. Half of the movie felt unnecessarily repetitive while other things were never addressed. Just blah
There's no character development from anyone. We're just flies on the wall in a boring and painfully dysfunctional household. If the characters weren't attractive I'm not sure anyone would watch it...
Just watched it last night. Thought it was okay. I feel like affleck is becoming a better actor the older he gets. The ending was kind of lack luster but I enjoyed it for what it is
I watched it last night out of boredom and my first thought was that this movie reminded me of unfaithful.
I gotta say. I grew up on the michael douglas erotic thrillers…. I love them for the cheesiness and the intensity… this move completely scratched that itch for me
"your opinion is wrong" is my favorite thing to say to people lol
What was with the whole town being witnesses to the affair and openly talking to Ben Allen about his wife? It felt like there was a weird sex cult with all the parties.
"Sloppy...And not in the erotic sense that you might be thinking."
Oh, how well you know me.
Here’s the issue that Dan raises about movie critics and their opinions. Opinions can be wrong, and just because you feel strongly about something doesn’t make you right.
If you don’t full understand the context of something, and I can tell based on how you’ve expressed your opinion, you should be called out on it. There’s a difference between saying you just don’t prefer something, and calling something terrible because of your preferences. If you offer opinions about movies to the public, then you open yourself up for pushback.
I'm going to be honest. I moved on from Twitter, Instagram, TikTok all that stuff lol. It was getting to much for me. I feel like CZcams is just the right amount of crazy for my everyday needs. Also, I did wonder what the heck the tone of this film was supposed to be. I found myself laughing a few times at things I don't think were meant to be funny.
This movie felt like it was right out of the late 90s and I loved it. It's just absolute trash, like tabloids come to life
If Michael Douglas was 30 years younger!..
Didn't hate it, didn't love it... if it's a Tuesday night and you're bored, put it on
Deep Water is just not for me. I can accept that a movie may be well-acted, technically adept along with the inclusion of some intriguing dialogue. Admittedly it happens rarely, but I do disagree with reviews posted by Dan. However, when criticism is clearly expressed, points are made with no judgements regarding the "quality" of the audience or critics, I can appreciate an alternate opinion. That being said, I am still miffed concerning Dan Murrell's review of the Book of Boba Fett. 😉
Beyond those comic book scooters being a HUGE mistake, it was a good series.
Lazy screenwriting has a name. It’s called Sam Levinson
If you stop watching after the first third, it’s a good movie.
Mmmmm it's a shame this is bad but I may just watch it anyway because Ana De Armas is the most attractive woman on the earth.
That’s the only reason I watch it LOL 😂 to see Ana De Armas. Didn’t see the entire film from start to finished, but just wanted see it because it has Ana De Armas.
That's pretty much all this movie has going for it. She carries the movie.
This movie was hilarious, lots of dark humor, they all look like they had a blast filming this. Anyways, this would be a run of the mill european, korean movie, but since its made in the US with Affleck, it gets demolished.
1. I hate "film critics". We're all just people. You don't have super powers. It's a movie.
2. I enjoyed this movie and came to CZcams to see what other people were saying about it and I stumbled upon this.
3. I don't make movies. I couldn't have made a better movie. I believe that that the main characters did a good enough job to grab my attention. I was curious. There was suspense. I don't regret watching it. It was a good way to waste a Sunday night on the couch with my wife.
4. I hate movies without endings. I want to know what happens next. I don't want to have to imagine. I can imagine an infinite number of things all day for the rest of life. I believe the purpose of movies is to tell a story and I want to know the whole story. What happens next? I hate it so much. People think they're so cute or clever not giving you all of the answers. I can't stand it.
5. All of these are my personao opinions. Obciously. Everyone has their opinion. Their tastes.
What husband would let his wife sleep with a lot of men in his own house with him watching everything?
Dan, please stop being adorable.
the movie was fire
I'll skip this movie. Thanks for the heads up, Dan!
I think the main motivation for making this movie is just a business aspect, streaming services are desperate to appeal the former cable watchers = boomers and stay at home moms nearing 50, they're the ones that keep paying for the service and they love this kinda stuff, shows like s*x/life, all the 50 shades clones and even outlander, plot driven soft pron. Imo the premise it's pretty dated and kinda mehh, people today wouldn't even think of having that type of arrangement, a bit irrelevant. There was some terrible acting in there, but the main actors were good, Ana de Armas can't sing though
I'm with you almost 100%. That being said, I believe a critic has the responsability to try to be as objective as possible (as we are trusting them with their knowledge in movies) in their opinion about a movie they reviewing. They have to have a criteria to do that and explain how and why they thought that about and liked the movie. So when you read a review that ends declaring the movie is not good just because the reviewer felt uncomfortable with a personal issue, like a movie element that clashes with his/her own values (I have in mind IGN's review of Licorice Pizza by Tara Benett), I feel the review loses the objectivity it's meant to have and is no different from the layman's opinion in the comment section.
Same goes for video game reviews (GTA V's Gamespot review by Carolyn Petit comes into mind) or any other review of a media or art work.
I hate thrillers with confusing endings.
Two reviews in one.
I have to agree with your take on the movie overall, it was disappointing to me.
I thought you were going to say Hulu... lots of Deep Water in Hawaii. Yours is better though.
This movie gave me Will Smith and Jada vibes lol