Bayern Munich: The Return Of Hollywood FC
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- Things have not been going well at Bayern Munich. Players look like they've given up. The manager looks like he's given up. What on earth is going on?
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00:00 - Introduction
02:30 - Is Thomas Tuchel the problem?
09:55 - Bayer Leverkusen Are Unstoppable
Background music:
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Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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As soon as Harry Kane looks to finally win a trophy, the Football gods decide to activate the "Xabi Alonso undefeated season" story
Let's just combine the unbeaten alonso and the cursed Kane next season to see if the evil or the light prevails 😃
Two things for sure:
1) Harry Kane is one of the most cursed footballers ever
2) Thomas Müller is a one-club legend
harry kane imo is top 8 st itw skill wise i think he just needs time to adapt feel free to disagree with me tho
@@vanshaggarwal5640 he's not bad, he's just unlucky
Ballack: "Let me introduce myself."
@@TheKingOf2024 Quadruple runner-up in 2002!
Bundesliga, DFB-Pokal, Champions League and if it's not enough the World Cup. Where he missed the final, because of a yellow card in the semis against South Korea.
I don't know how one could go on after this. Take it as a challenge by God?
I also still remember how he collapsed after the lost UCL final in 07/08. The Chelsea players were lined up and when van der Saar saved Anelka's penalty.
If I see players shooting penalties today, I only have to think of how Ballack used to take penalties. He nailed them under the crossbar, with a 130 km/h instep kick. The keepers just had no possible chance to keep the ball.
Today EVERY player shoots either in the middle of the right side or middle left side.
@@godgamingmaster770 probably
I think this is all just a consequence of Bayern's own pride and demands for nothing but absolute perfection. The decision to sack Nagelsmann, was unnecessary. He was unbeaten in the UCL and played great football, however they were 2nd in the league and the board saw it as an opportunity to hastily sack him and hire a newly available Champions league winning coach in Tuchel. While Tuchel is a great coach I don't think he fits the style of Bayern Munich, however I don't think he is the main problem. I believe that the real overarching problem with Bayern is that for the first in over a decade, the club is truly rattled. This isn't the no nonsense Bayern we have come to know, and the players are aware of it too. To add on to all of that pressure they have finally found a real challenger for the Bundesliga, one they haven't encountered in a while. I believe that simply put, the club is shaken up, and they need to regain that lethal composure that makes Bayern Bayern in order for them to go right back to the top of Germany and Europe.
Great points.
Id say, that the core issue is the not well done transition and the now lack of leaders.
I think it's starting to become obvious for bigger clubs that the rest of the other clubs are finally starting to catch up. Probably didn't help that Dortmund had to lose for Bayern to win last year.
Great points, the fact that the bundelsiga title is treated as an expectation rather than a goal has really messed with Bayern, and their fans perspectives. Every team has highs and lows, and when city wasn’t performing well last season did they freak out and fire Pep? Leverkusen is setting the expectations for Bayern, the fans, the bundesliga, and honestly all of world football. They are showing that the bundesliga is stronger than just Bayern.
@@luke4bayern705 I think, that we need 1-2 years of rebuilding, like in 10/11 and 11/12.
Bayern Munich:
When an unstoppable force Kingsley Coman 🤝 Meets an unmovvable object Harry Kane
true
Tbf tho now they have Eric Dier
Poor Coman...
Not true, its unfair to coman
He's up against kane and Dier, he's overwhelmed
If Kingsley Coman wins a trophy with France at the Euros, the. He can still have a trophy while Kane sits at 0 😂
I can see why Naglesmann rubbed a few players the wrong way. That said, he's a young manager who still hasn't worked all the kinks out nor has managed at a level where his kinks no longer matter.
Bayern knew this when they hired him but instead of allowing him to grow along with his own team he was undercut by upper management every single time there was an issue between himself and a veteran player.
Those same veterans who didn't like playing under Naglesmann are now vastly underperforming under Teuchel. Management created a monster by not supporting their head coach.
also, isn't he the most expensive manager that has even been bought to this day? I think bayern payed 40million or sth to salzburg and that just makes everything even crazier
20 million EUR to Leipzig.
The players at Bayern have been way too powerful for years now. The way they downed the tools to get Ancelotti and Kovac fired for example, simply because they didn't like the fact that training was not as "intense" than what they were used to under Guardiola.
and don't forget he found out he was getting fired through social media. disgraceful
Exactly that and only that is their central problem.
Years ago I used to joke that once any top young Bundesliga talent breaks out, they need to Google houses in Munich. Nowadays those talents might be looking elsewhere.
wait til next year, i think this is season to forget. I know next year they will be on another level
so many young talents spent their early twenties on the bench of this godforsaken club... jan fiete arp i still havent forgiven you
Wasn't in his early twenties when moving to bayern tho and is now doing great in the second Bundesliga
@@243yannik9 he had the chance to leave and he decided to stay. Don’t keep blaming the club because it’s easiest. It’s on the player aswell
@@generalpenultimo6502 he was 19 and had just graduated high school, he could have been on a hsv team that needed him to get promoted to first division and would have likely already been a club legend at age 20, instead he was in bayern for 3 years and has 0 first team appearances to show for. tell me how thats not wasting anything lol
I honestly love the fact Bayern is struggling. Not because I wish them anything bad but because it will eventually benefit the Bundesliga. Serie A is arguably the most interesting league right now because there’s actual variety in its champions. If Bayern can be beaten, then there might be a chance for Dortmund, Leverkusen and other teams aswell
Don’t bet on it. Bayern will take 1-2 years to rebuild like in 2010-12 then go back to dominating like they always do.
@@LjuboCupic1912 maybe but that’s ok, 2-3 years is all I ask for
@@HannesHace2-3 years is a stretch
it will be only this season
they shred when they lose a title, even under the worst circumstances
Dortmund will never have a chance again after bottling it last year. They're not a serious club.
I hope the league will go down a similiar path were the dominant team kind of falls of to the point were they are just as good as the other top teams while the others also get closer to what they used to be
If Kane is the unluckiest Man on the Planet, i surely whould trade lifes with him
Same bro
yes unlucky meanwhile he is practically swimming in money lmfao
Harry Kane is cursed so cursed
I didn't wanna believe it before, but now the writing is on the wall
Cursed to never speak sensibly
He's just incompetent.
@Const1 nah that's bollocks and you know it
@@Maisonikkokufan Yeah right, he's playing a fucking DM at times, when the team needs him up front in the box. He was invisible at the biggest matches of the season when the team most needed him. I wish he succeeds, but I just don't see it.
People don't get it right. As a German Bayernfan I can assure you - Thomas Tuchel is the MAIN problem, but not the only one. Half our pool nts this season we're pure luck. Tuchel plays a system that fits not a single player on the pitch. Müller, De Ligt, Tel.. Well performing players are left out of the starting11 constantly and Tuchel obviously does not care about the players he has.
But the team also is burned out and completely broken apart. Tuchel is the problem that needs to be solved, but the team also needs to be absolutely mixed up in the summer!
thank you!! I'm done with ppl defending TT like are they even following Bayern? that man is just destroying the club from within
@@mananghildiyal2675 That's ridiculous. He is just the coach and the coach has no power at Bayern. The fish smells from its head, as germans say. Clueless businessmen are ruining the club
You do realize how many injuries bayern got? Almost all within unlucky moments in games.
De ligt, upa, Laimer, guerreiro, coman, gnabry...
Then the unfortunate stanisic, pavard thing.
What Tuchel maybe didnt do too well was adapting a little better to His not good cadre.
BUT you cannot install de ligt if hes injured. Central mids are all offensive and not strong in defense forcing an over reliance and the center backs from which 2 were not even available all the time.
A Kimmich thats too busy thinking about himself but the team. Davies who is halfway done with bayern and these major fuck ups on the transfer market (e.g. palinha etc.)
I also wonder how adaptable are these players really? People say play with Tel, play with müller, re build Kimmich etc.
But this squad is not the same anymore. Müller is what 34 ? He cant be relied on to carry bayern. Also musiala is on his spot too.
Even if tuchel wanted to incorperate kane better etc. i dont think the squad is flexible enough.
The routeniers want to play their old stuff and the new ones feel out of place. Its not 2020 anymore.
In terms of the title, Hollywood FC never left. It just was in PSG the past 10 years and may still be, but it’s shifting over back to Bayern. Before that it was at Real Madrid in the 2000’s.
You forgot Man Utd under Woodward when he tried to create his own galacticos by throwing 💰 at players di Maria, pogba etc
Now it’s bayern’s time
Jose at Bayern would be a menace to society bro
Crime againts humanity
"You can't blame him for trying new things"
True. But a great coach accepts when his matchplan has failed and adapts to the opponents clearly superior setup, which Tuchel didn't (or at least did too late). After 20 minutes it was pretty obvious that Alonso outcoached him, with one Leverkusen player was "happy when we saw the starting 11. It meant they feared us".
Fan from Bochum here, great video and sound analysis bro. I'm still smiling nonstop from this incredibly hard-faught victory.
Even with everyone rightfully criticizing Bayern right now, I find it somewhat baffling how unfamiliar Bayern-fans and personnel are with the feeling of losing, to the point that three losses are THAT much of a crisis. They now might get to experience the feeling of being a real football fan with peaks and valleys throughout seasons.
Finally I agree with you that Tuchel doesn't do himself many favors in his interviews. I always appreciate an emotional coach, but the way he basically said 'If we played this match 10 more times, we'd win 10 times.' and 'it was just murphy's law, everything that could've gone against us, went against us.', going on to say Upamecanos elbow wasn't a penalty, talking about xG... from a Bochum-fan's perspective, it came across very unlikable and conceited to not be given any credit by him for the incredible fight Bochum put up.
As a Bayern fan I like how you describe topics around the club very well. Keep it up!
I’ve been a Bayern fan since 2003 and I can easily say this is the most misguided I’ve seen my club in all my years supporting them. Much like Jose, Tuchel is a great short term manager that can get results, but over the course of the second season, things tend to fall apart. Tuchel’s footballing vision has never been in line with Bayern’s due to philosophies. This dilemma, rather a downfall, actually started back in 2020. When Bayern’s hierarchy sat back and let then sextuple winning Hansi Flick and then sporting director Hasan Salihamidzic go to war over transfers. That was the first of the dominoes began to fall. Hansi’s request were nowhere near that of Tuchel, but the board shut him down and out every single time. Tuchel has always been “my way or no way”, and ever since joining Bayern it’s more evident. He keeps reverting back to U shape formations in attack and doesn’t bring much innovation to in game situations. To then further keep putting established players under the bus for his own shortcomings isn’t the Bayern way of doing things. Sure the players haven’t been up to par either, but the coach is the one who picks the team and he puts his own pride over what’s objectively best for the team. Nagelsmann maybe tinkered too much in moments, but with Tuchel, he most definitely tinkers too little. The longer Tuchel stays in the job, the further Bayern gets to the point of beyond repair. The club has supported him in the transfer market more than any of our coaches in recent history and yet he still puts his interests first. I’ll always give managers time, but the difference this year has made is completely disgraceful. 100% Tuchel out
EXACTLY
"Profesional football watcher" is a great job title. 🌌
I am really glad, that Bayern are finally struggling. I've watched way too many times Bayern winning the Bundesliga and the first time since a decade watching the fight for the top is enjoyable.
Additionally I think its well deserved for what they have done with Nagelsmann. Nagelsmann was still in every competition and yet the upper management and media were never satisfied.
Yeah, this is the only season it feels like Bayern are worried about their competition. If Dortmund was top of the table rn, Bayern would just wait for them to collapse and sneak in to win the league. But leverkusen bring a different swagger.
Ye Dortmund always struggle with inconsistent performances. Last season I was half expecting them to fuck it up.@@pstratos7
You know when Thomas Tuchel had a strained relationship with PSG hierarchy, I put that down to PSG just creating a toxic atmosphere.
But then there was Tuchel's strained relationship with Boehly and Clear Lake with his sudden firing that lead to question Tuchel's attitude.
Now with what's going on at Bayern Munich, I am definitely in the camp that thinks Tuchel is problematic and chances of working for another big club are going to be few and far between.
Seems logical, but I disagree. Tuchel won the ucl at Chelsea with on mediocre squad. He had a big personality and wants things his way. Big club admin/player power can be a problem for either of these. Doesn’t mean he isn’t top quality
Very interesting and valid POV
@1237barca I totally agree that Tuchel managed to win the UCL with a mediocre Chelsea team and when he was at Dortmund I was a fan of him. However something has definitely changed in him, whereby his last few games at Chelsea were some of the most drab football being played. We would have presumed him taking over Bayern Munich and getting the players he wanted would see him content. However his breakdown in relationships with Kimmich, De Ligt, and Goretzka shows that there is a problem with his personality.
When Raphael Honnegstein being informed by someone in Munich top brass that Tuchel has a personality problem, you have to accept that any Big club needing a manager would definitely think twice about hiring him.
@@1237barcamediocre???? He had havertz werner ziyech kante. The team was maybe not as good as man city but still it was good. I also he got lucky in final. Up till then man city were known choke artists
@@MohammedAlauddin-jk2ff To win the UCL, you need 90% of talent and winning attitude.... And 10% of luck as well... Look at city's final... Inter were hammering them so hard yet city won.... City needed that 10% luck.... Same as Chelsea had.... Real Madrid were a dominant team yet they needed luck as well.... But we can only talk about luck in the end of the match.... Tuchel did enough work to win the ucl and luck favoured him as well.... I love Tuchel because he brought home the ucl but at the same time, it was known he wasn't a long term manager
tbf, everyone is clowning bayern on the internet, but bayern have at one point or another destroyed most of those people's favourite clubs
Facts .its just a bad year
Especially those barca fans😂😂😂😂that 8-2loss haunts them up to this day😂😂😂😂😂😂
man we can't even defeat Lazio atm
@@mananghildiyal2675 some years are just bad its bayern they will come back if this continues tuchel is gonna het sacked and they probably go after xabi alonso
@@samarthpatel3422 I want Xabi at Bayern so bad, I don't think any other manager could save this sinking boat but apparently Xabi ain't gonna come this year atleast, he'll either stay or move to Liverpool
Who didnt like the Mourinho part. Pure football Heritage
Genuine chuckle came out
1:04 it's over for Leverkusen football iconic praised them now they are curse.
Just need to know if that curse is stronger then harry
He talked about Napoli last season and they still won the Scudetto. Harry Kane curse out powers Football Iconic one
Great video man! You really managed to look at this whole situation from multiple perspectives instead of just throwing around assumptions. I really respect that
We can't really tell the coach how to do his job. Perhaps the squad resonates with the statement, if true, seeing as to how even Muller came out criticising his teammates. My opinion, though, is that Julian's sudden sacking hit them hard. That, plus perhaps a missing number 6, is causing troubles on the field. However, given Julian's sacking, they are pros and should get over it if they are hangover. Bayern always seemed like a strange club for me. For a very big club, the players have always seemed to have too much power. Perhaps this was the first time when they realised that this just wouldn't be the case anymore after such a long time.
Enjoying watching your videos since finding you recently - you’re a cool dude!
you forgot the most important part of fhe equation, personnel management
tuchel had an immediate impact on the dressing room, he instantly criticized and alienated players, and even benched the ones who he dislikes, and not necessarily for their performance.
He's not giving our youngsters any playtime and almost driving them out of ghe club, he's benching De ligt our best player last season, and when he noticed thay thomas müller is a key figure on and off the pitch, it was too late.
he doesn't have have a fixed 11 he always keeps the players in shambles, and in the biggest game, he chose to experiment and play players in their unnatural positions, so what do you expect?
players feel tired and undermined, with a coach that seemingly has this much say in the club for the first time in it's history, it's all turmoil...
Great video. I loved your presenting on this topic. Probably the best video I’ve seen on this kind of topic. Much love
Love the video and channel, any chance we can get some Docu videos on players like Bale, Higuain, Manzudkic and some others i cant think off.
Really happy this channel popped up on my feed, great content here 👏
I think they lack mentality Monsters on the field. Players like Robben, Ribbery, Lewandowski were world-class footballers, but also extremely ambitious. The only players I think have that kind of ambition are Kimmich and de Ligt and they're completely insecure at the moment and aren't performing.
Must be tough sitting in second place and reaching ucl knockouts. Couldn't begin to imagine.
shows you how fucking arrogant everyone at that club is. there are reasons Bayern is so hated in germany
I love your videos! they are always entertaining
Great video bro 🎉
Another banger, watching from Durban, South Africa
Same bro
Pietermaritzburg here 🤣
Richards bay
Kwamashu bolova🤟😉
Make a three-part video about the history of Johan Cruyff before his arrival as a player in the FC Barcelona club, his contribution to the club and the history after his arrival. In the first part, keep the history of the Barcelona club until his arrival, the heritage status. The third part is the same, only after his arrival. The next and the second video will mainly be about his performance as a player, managing the club as a manager and overall what happened to his contribution to the club. I would like to see a series like this.
In my view, it's a very similar situation to PSG in France: Bayern are so powerful and financially dominant that they've paradoxically... set themselves up for failure. Winning the league is not enough when you are this richer than your domestic rivals and able to poach their talent, so any time you're not top of the league it's like a disaster. For all of the issues with Nagelsmann and Tuchel both of them had collected a reasonable number of points in the league at the time when trouble erupted, but this is a team that simply can't accept 2nd place.
That's bad both for the league and for the club itself. The league becomes less competitive, there are more dead rubber fixtures and both PSG and Bayern end up struggling in Europe because they are used to playing meaningless domestic games.
The club's players enjoy way too much power. They've undermined every single manager that came after Guardiola - aside from Heynckes and Flick who were there a short time - simply for petty reasons such as "Pep was better" and "training sessions are not intense enough". Muller in particular is one who stinks up the place, but Sané and Kimmich look like they have a lot of negative influence too.
Bayern last season looked a lot like Juventus 2019-20: a team that won the league mostly through the mistakes of others while playing very poorly. 4 years of misery followed for Juventus, although I don't expect that to happen with Bayern in a league with such low competition.
Great comment.
hate that we fired Nags for this boombaclot
as a bayern fan i agree.nagelsmann might have had disagreements with the board but i would rather take a coach who can win rather than someone who loses.
Me too, Nagelsmann was cooking but the board is fucking stupid and pursuing an imaginary treble, Tuchel is not the guy you want for a treble
I heard that Bayern wanted to sign Tuchel for much longer, but then they decided for Nagelsmann because Tuchel wasn't available. Just to sack him once things weren't all flawless anymore because they had an excuse to bring Tuchel in ("The triple is in danger!")
@@_creepingdeathTHANK YOU, everyone keeps repeating fake news apart from you. Thats the only reason Julian was fired. I hope bayern makes amends and Julian comes back this summer ❤❤
This will be too funny in few years : Kane decides to play for Bayern and Leverkusen go undefeated pure cosmic comedy.
I think we need episode about the failure that is Napoli in this season. They sacked Walter Mazzari and Francesco Calzona is now third coach in current season. From winning the league to being in absolute chaos is unbelievable.
1:12 😂 had me there for second
The big role the lack of vision in team-management and its leaders can’t be overstated. existing leaders were sold and they missed building up a new generation when De Ligt, Tel or Sané are receiving such mixed signals from their manager and higher ups, talking about their form and not being played, plus current leaders like Kimmich are getting subbed/ underperforming and Muller not playing.
Tuchel’s tactics need a 6, and Kimmich has statistically a third of challenges in the defensive half compared to others, even compared to Pavlovic who’s also not getting playtime.
This channel is so underrated.
the shelf is being filled, can’t wait to see your ballon dors on there 🙏
Tuchel didn’t even say that quote.
Tuchel never actually said that quote in the opening.
Football iconic is getting better
Nagelsmann deserves way more than apologies from the board. They should be ashamed of themselves for backing a coach that both over rotating a big team and give away the domestic cup to a team form the third division, and lack of match awareness that he did not realize that his 3-4-2-1 is getting overloaded in the midfield for 60 min and cannot build up the attack until that 2nd goal from Xabi's team. In that game the back 3 also were clearly confused on who to cover and where should they position themselves. Have they backed Nagelsmann over the issues with veteran players the same way they probably are now with Tuchel I believe Bayern would be in a better situation now.
i love this channel
I hate the fact when everything seems to be heading in a bad direction our focus and attention is on the manager rather than the staff and the players, if they preform poorly yes the manager needs to take some fault but genuinely what is going on with the training staff and the players that makes them play so poorly, most certainly why the hell is Upa still a starter? Should've had kept Lucas to do the job as well in the back
As a Leverkusen fan for 21 long years, I actually can't believe our luck. Not only the best football in Europe, with one of the most baller teams, the biggest manager prospect maybe ever and Bayern are collapsing. Here's my two cents on that which is a more common take here in Germany. The Bayer squad is cooked. Ever since 2020, there have been players like Goretzka, Gnabry, Sané before this season, that have way too much influence, even if they are not performing. Also the last International Performances for all these German National team players, has really cooked them. IMO, Bayern not only needs to get rid of Tuchel, but also redesign big parts of their squad. I am so fucking happy tho, still can't believe we might win something this season❤️🔥❤️🖤
"best football in europe" "biggest manager prospect maybe ever" one good season and you get this arrogant. pipe down, you are not that important
7:50 what a psychopath hahahaha
Profesional football watcher, loved that 😂
Going undefeated while winning the title is a much bigger accomplishment than setting the points total record. It is even a bigger accomplishment seeing that Leverkusen are doing it with a squad that has a total of 1.1 million Euros of weekly wages compared to 5.2 million Euros weekly wages for Munich. It is a much bigger upset than Leicester City (739k per week) winning the league over the biggest spender of MC (2.4 million per week) as Munich have a wage bill that is 4.7 times higher than Leverkusen vs when Leicester did it when MC only spent 3.4 times more. It is time to bring in a salary cap into football as well as doing away with these silly transfer fees. Do it like they do in American sports. Trade or sign when the contract is over/free agency…
Perception is an interesting thing. Yes I know we are talking about Bayern and they're used to being in top always, and yes you know, 27 shots and not much to show for that and all the rest. But then consider we are also talking about a club that is not in the relegation zone, not mid-table or even in danger of missing a UCL spot, but rather in second place in their league, pretty comfortably at that with a four point cushion. I am a BVB fan and we are quite a ways off the top or even second right now; the media doesn't have us in dire straits at least not like Bayern. We are left to just quietly find our way. For the record, I am excited for Leverkusen. I think it's great to see them come out of the blue and crush it.
It never stopped being Hollywood FC. However, unlike Hollywood they produce consistently good results, whilst reinvesting to keep the machine going. Over the last 20 years more and more die hard Bayern fans emerged, that always loved the club even when they were the underdogs like 50 years ago. I'm really bad at maths so I never dare to question when 20 something year olds tell me that... Totally love for the sport, totally not influenced by well-made marketing . And of course there are very few, if any, Bayern fans that enjoy cheering for them because they just figure the chances that they will win titles is much bigger than with any other club in Germany xD
Tuchel didnt say the first quote you mentioned
Please make a vid about the investors in Germany , I want to learn more about it
8:14 you spoke too soon mate 😅
• Players still behind Thomas Tuchel: Manuel Neuer, Raphaël Guerreiro, Jamal Musiala, Leroy Sané, Harry Kane, Eric Dier
• Players against Thomas Tuchel: Joshua Kimmich, Leon Goretzka, Thomas Müller, Matthijs de Ligt, Mathys Tel, Serge Gnabry
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nice new setup
The MKBHD of Football. Great Video!
lmao weird comparison
i guess its the commenting style idk.. just came to mind lol@@shaqtaku
@@damageddudenah it's the forehead I'm sure
After bayern tried to scapegoat mane last season, it wasn't hard to tell that they were a mess
I was waiting for your breakdown of bayerngate
Can you make a video on VfB Stuttgart?
Mourinho at Bayern will either be unstoppable or self destruct within 2 seasons
7:22 He was getting sent off all the time in Leipzig, too. He's just a risky player.
I knew Bayern was done when they played against United in the ucl this season.
Sure, they won both games but they conceded 3 goals in the first game and scored just one goal in the 2nd match and the crazy part is that they were in complete control in both games.
Please make a video on the fan protest and the message conveyed by the bundesliga fans
In my opinion Tuchel has every reason to be angry with both his players and the management.
Kimmich and Goretzka definitely haven't been showing the quality necessary to compete with high level clubs and that was prior to Tuchel.
Tuchel immediately recognized that and demanded a holding 6 before the transfer window even started.
He received supplementary players at best.
He had to start with a smaller bench and aside from Kane no added quality.
However he still managed to make his team perform at least a little better until the winter break.
Afterwards most players simply couldn't perform at the top of their game.
Injuries, bad luck and the press certainly didn't help.
However Kimmich seems to be the player responsible for the bad mood in the team.
He never played worse than this year, his interviews and his mood on the pitch certainly speaks volumes and he resented Tuchel for pointing out that a holding 6 is missing - a position he falsely considers himself to be.
The quote from Tuchel may be fabricated but I wouldn't have blamed him for saying it because it true.
Exactly!
Agreed💯
As a Dortmund fan. Hoping for them to continue slipping. Enough that Dortmund and Stuttgart can overtake them 😂 Bayern in 4th or 5th would be WILD. But that's a near impossible dream
bayern failing might be more likely than dortmund winning enough to surpass them though.
sincerely, another dortmund fan
@@6ch6ris6 oh I know. The odds are so far off it's not worth thinking about. But I'm just hoping for it lol. But that also requires us to trust terzic to not fuck up. Which I have zero expectations for.
@@j.jsamra i dont even blame Terzic too much. He should give Mouki more chances, but other than that, what is he suppose to do? He is not a magician. The squad is just mediocre this season. Losing Bellingham was worse than losing Haaland. Nmecha was bad most of the time he played and now he is injured.
It's funny. Here in Australia, finishing second on the AFL ladder is incredible 😂
The seed of their downfall started in the 18/19 season when Kovac was in charge. Dortmund being the specialist of failure threw away the title and the following season Frankfurt smashed them 5-1 spelling the end of Kovac. Flick steady the ship and went on to secure the sextuple in 2020 and that same year Brazzo and Khan were part of the board. Brazzo and Khan screwed over Flick and Nagelsmann and they got rid of them. Bayern Munich barely retained the Bundesliga title thanks to Dortmund pissing it away and Brazzo and Khan got fired immediately after the final whistle went. Tuchel didn't cover himself in glory when he alienated half the squad and doesn't play the Bayern Munich way. Speaking of the squad player power became a thing when Ancelotti was in charge and it has gotten so worse that the senior players are too powerful that managers can't handle them. Bayern Munich needs a rebuild and it starts by firing Tuchel.
Fast forward to 19h later and he's confirmed to go at the end of the season
9:35 excellent option. every player except for salah and kdb, that had a fallout with jose, screwed their careers. Very good at finding red flags
Bayern's reign in germany is a snowball of competence, they've been exprrtly using their success as leverage to poach their opponents and thus widen the gap while reinforcing their own team.
The problem is that losing momentum can easily snowball in the other direction, bad results making bayern a less attractive team and allowing adversaries to catch up.
PLEASE make a video about the fan protest's in germany!
Only Jose Mourinho can save Bayern Munich like he did when he Real Madrid
Math not Mathing at 10:30😅
Nagelsmann got fired in the middle of a Champions League run just for Tuchel to last a season and a half 😂...life lol.
But memes and jokes aside, its just unfortunate the timing of it all. Coz Bayern have been having issues upstairs since even before either Nagelsmann or Tuchel were appointed. So they probably would have been in this same position with Nagelsmann since Xabi Alonso's Leverkusen is playing historically good but that whole short term boost they were going for with Tuchel didn't pan out. I think Bayern figured they could have done what Chelsea did and basically have a short term boost maybe win a trophy or two and then blow it all up. Similar to what happens with Conte teams.
Great watch as always and loved the nuance in the video. Coz Tuchel has been bad vibes for them but he'd have comfortably beat challengers from previous years, he just happens to be bringing bad vibes whilst up against a relentless Leverkusen.
as a Dortmund fan I am enjoying this as much as you can guess :D
yeah we have our own problems. big problems. but seeing Bayern fail always makes me smile. all the best to Leverkusen. they have been so close to winning the league a few times and now they more than deserve it
as soon as he said I don't know which ones are available. I thought the special one!!!!!!
(Not a Bayern fan) To summarise a few things:
Old player have too much power or players in general.
A lot of injuries
Leaks to media
Kimmich switching from right-back to center-mid was a short term success, but as we can see he is lacking in too many areas.
Goretzka is not playing the same anymore, but his playstyle could still work with a Nr.6 at his side.
Musialas playmaking skills are inconsistent and sometimes not there. Maybe as a playmaking winger he could use his dribbling skills more. We could see glimpses of that in last game.
Let Sane shoot. I know he can do the Robben and Ribery range shots, but it feels like he isn't allowed to do them.
De Ligt and Kim need to play togerher and get better together. I don't know what to do with Upamecano. It feels like he is lacking experience, but with Bayern you will be reminded for every mistake you made.
Solutions (imo)
Sell or hold Davies, prefer to hold bc good Left-backs are rare and expensive
Get the leakers out, Bayern knows them, I'm pretty sure about that
New GK, new midfield consisting of at least a 6 and a playmaker.
kane left spurs but spurs never left kane
I think you forget to name the main culprit in our situation. And that is Hasan Salihamidžić. With Kahn, he has been mismanagement at FC Bayern for years.
Wrong squad compilation, And the most important leading players have not been adequately replaced. In addition, players who do not perform receive far too high salary payments. Like Bouna Sarr and even the high ranked players like Sane, Goretzka und Gnabry (Even if he is currently injured)
And I haven't even started with Thomas Tuchel
I’m from Mexico and when it comes to European football I’m a Barcelona and Munich fan… I’m going through it rn 🤣🙃
When we find out in 20 years what was going on behind closed doors it probably still won’t make any sense
Now we are in Semis In our worst form Our worst Is Bettet than Your Best this is how good we are.
"Professional football watcher" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
As a Bayern fan… this season is tough lol
The very first quote is something that was made up by the media, Tuchel and the press guy have emphaticly denied that something like that was ever said and Tuchel himself said that if a coach says something like that they would never return into the cabin. Depicting that line as something Tuchel said in your first picture of the video is very misleading.
Leverkusen also only will have the greatest Bundesliga season of all time if they win all but one of the remaining games and that game needs to be a draw in order to equalize the highest points a Bundesliga club has ever accumulated in a season. Of course you could argue if they do not lose any game it would be the greatest season, which might very well be the case.
Tuchel is certainly a major part of why Bayern have not been playing like they should recently. Tuchel has been undermining several key players of the club and Tuchel also has his favorites who always play and his "anti-favorites" who just don't play. He has made coaching errors several times and the team plays uninspired, they lack ideas when going forward. This is the biggest issue, the HOW. Yes, Leverkusen play amazingly and Bayern would usually be 1st place with the points they have right now, but the WAY they are playing is not good at all, which is a problem at Bayern. It's not enough to win, you need to win convincingly and with authority.
Another issue is that several players just aren't as good as they used to be and even someone like Kane has been missing a lot of chances that should have been goals.
The third issue for sure is a lot of bad luck regarding injuries combined with a not great summer transfer window. They were just trying to get Kane and forgot to get the defense sorted out. Pavard wanted to leave for a while, and yet they loaned Stanisic out to Leverkusen because Tuchel apparently saw no use for him. Pavard then left and the defense was stripped very thin. During the season all defenders were either injured or overplayed at some point, making it very difficult to have a proper starting backline.
I do not know what the whole issue is about. Bayern wins every year, this year they are a strong second and they call it a crisis.
I know you always want to win but if the management thinks that if they 'lose' once, they may lose next year and next year, it's weak mentality. If not, then why the whole talk.
Bayern can always buy Leverkusen's players at the end of the season like the typically do.
Manchester United: *FINALLY A WORTHY OPPONENT, OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!*
The problem in the Leverkusen game wasn't being "carved wide open", it was that the new formation left them toothless in attack. 1.23 xG allowed away to Leverkusen is very respectable; 0.7 xG for is not.
If Kane retires after this season, I won't blame him. Its been a sad story and I feel terribly sorry for that hardworking bloke.
Harry Kane couldn't win a trophy if Messi was in his club and Pele played for England. That's how much of a Spurs he is!
Tuchel is right with his complains about the Midfield. There are a lot of players said to be good but only view are fighting with passion. The solution shouldn’t be to sac the Trainers. They have to exchange the Midfield
I'm not even going to lie, umpamecano's performance in the UCL Last season against city was just puzzling to say the least. If he keeps on playing like this, when a new manager comes to Bayern, chances are he's either going to be sold. OR he's going to warm the bench for good, don't get me wrong he's an incredible player when he's in form, but right now, I don't even know what to say.
It will be like it always is, Bayern seems at the bottom but at the end of the season they will become champions again. I will celebrate once its mathematically impossible for them to win buli.
Bayer "cooking" Leverkusen.... These guys incredible
So it was a Son carry job after all 😮
At least this time we gonna saw a new champion