Is the SVS PB-1000 Pro Possibly the Best BUDGET Subwoofer?
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When looking for a subwoofer, always take into account the use case. Consider the size of the enclosure, size of the driver, amplifier power, lower frequency extension, max SPL, how flat the response is, ported vs. sealed vs. passive radiator, and whether it has DSP app controls. There's no true best subwoofer for everyone, only best for your use case. Determine what your needs are first. Luckily, there are lots of good options once you determine what those needs are.
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Experience. New. Heights.
When looking for a subwoofer, always take into account the use case. Consider the size of the enclosure, size of the driver, amplifier power, lower frequency extension, max SPL, how flat the response is, ported vs. sealed vs. passive radiator, and whether it has DSP app controls. There's no true best subwoofer for everyone, only best for your use case. Determine what your needs are first. Luckily, there are lots of good options once you determine what those needs are.
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What about the minis? For us apartment dwellers, a 12” sub might be a lease killer
@@webada even the 3000 Micro can get you into trouble in an apartment if you turn it up loud enough
@@joentell even the SB 1000 pro could cause issues. I ended up returning the SB and keeping the PB 1000 Pro- but it was still impressive, especially considering the small size.
@@webada 🤠 I would just mount bass bumpers (vibration transducers) on the couch so you can feel the bass frequencies. Power them with an old stereo amp.
I am an SVS customer they make outstanding products at reasonable. Using dual SB-16 Ultra for music and movies. Deep tight articulate BASS with visceral impact.
One of my first subs that I ever bought and still have is a SVS PB 12 plus 2 in the cherry finish. SVS makes good stuff.
Just bought two of these bad boys! Can’t wait!!
Great video, have you seen the RSL 10S? Would be great if you can review that one. Your reviews fit my use case more than the other guys out there that need to have $2’000 plus subwoofers in there system. Keep up that great work.
I just ordered the white sb1000 (non-pro) from the outlet to pair with my monitor audio bronze 5.1 system. It comes tomorrow and I’m super excited! If I like it, I’ll probably end up getting a second one.
So how did u like it ?
Hey Joe. For an open living room with 1500+ cubic feet and an actual 10x14 AV area) and a 5.1.4 setup, which would you prefer for 80% movies, the PB-1000 Pro or the SB-3000?
Fantastic product. I'd use 4 of these in a system without a hesitation =)
This pb1000 is not affordable anymore! $200 price increase is a lot.
Honestly at this price point, id go with the monolith thx 12 or save some $$ and get the thx 10. Both power houses and great ways to get into
"real subwoofers".
Great review Joe! However, now that SVS raised the price of the PB-1000 Pro to $799.99 from $599.99 I think I'm going to purchase a couple of Monolith THX 10's ($499.99) or the HSU VTF-2 MK5 ($609.99).
I haven't reviewed the HSU, but people seem to like them. I like the Monolith THX 10 and this PB-1000 Pro. I'm using both in my system now.
@@joentell I feel that Hsu is not getting any love from the youtube reviewers. I wonder why?
@@krishnataveras8734 because they don't send out products to review. I offered to Dr. Hsu in person and he just wasn't interested
@@krishnataveras8734 SVS has better marketing since SVS begin in business. Hsu subs are slightly more musical at same price points. Anyone who wants to review Hsu subs has to pay two way shipping, plus restocking fee, that's way north of $200.
Hsu sub has raised shipping cost for VTF-2MK5 to $100, that's a lot.
They are the exact height of my tv console. I have 4 in a square pattern. Adding the 4th sub to the rear made a HUGE improvement to room acoustics. No time alignment/phase and all 4 perform better than just the front 2 properly aligned. 3 MLP seats with no nulls, crazy!
I just bought a pair of the PB 1000 Pro!
do you like them?
@@artvandelay837 Yes, I do! Very good subs.
I was so waiting for this!! Finally!
Ours is a new two week old SVS PB1000 Pro! Complete with acoustically treated theater room having dimensions of 16x12x9 feet!
Yesterday, I reran Audyssey, this time with close measurement points near our seating area. Subwoofer position unchanged and is still cornered at the left frontal corner with about 8 inches away from the side wall.
Read SVS tutorials from website and our PB1000 Pro sub instructions card. Set -15 on the Subwoofer volume before the Calibration. After completion, the AVR set Subwoofer level at -8.5db.
Finally, I set it at -8 (for movies) on the Subwoofer volume and -6.0db on the AVR Subwoofer trim level. Dynamic EQ is ON, set to reference 0db. Dynamic volume OFF
It sounds great and cohesive right off the bat! I would settle for this, unless there's something off that I am not aware about. please advise.
Sounds like you're doing the right things. I'm more likely to use dynamic volume and not dynamic EQ because I don't love how it affects the sound and volume of the surrounds. I often keep both off.
@@joentell Thanks for your prompt response 👍🏻
I am relieved to know that I am in the right direction as I didn't want to stress the sub as I love it much! Our AVR-X2700 works well with it I guess!
Thanks again sir!🙏🏻
With love from India 🇮🇳
Brijendra Reddy
Luckily I bought two SVS PB 1000 Pro's day one, they still blow my mind how they perform. 😉👍
Its now priced similarly to the HSU VTF3 MK5 which performs slightly better than a PB3000(HSU has better/deeper extension and literally matches the mid-bass performance of the PB3000)..... That should answer anyone's question....
Hi is this subwoofer better for music than the sb 2000 sealed woofer?
Thankyou joe
Hi buddy, which will be best for a 156 sq. Ft area Svs Pb 1000 or RLS 10inch
Do you think this will pair well with a few 300 watt Tannoy Gold 8's, power wise?
At this point I'd say it's the RSL 10S speedwoofer. Especially after the price of the SVS goes up.
I grabbed dual sb-1000... non pro. definitely happy with them. good 👊, clean, not sloppy. Paired with my prime pinnacles lcr and satellites ina 15x20ft area
Great buy i purchased before that boom svs sb 1000 to for 399
@@yournightmare9999 I grabbed them from the SVS outlet, I think I paid 1K shipped. Price was definitely reasonable for what they are. Not going to lie, the app would have been to nice to have, but I did fine tuning with REW
@@jlg23us For me, setting up by phone is unnecessary and there is no need to pay extra for it because I set the subwoofer once and I do not change the settings every day.
I’m new to home audio and thinking of getting the Senheisser ambeo as a all in one with the pb 1000 pro my question is it better to get the 10 in monolith ?
Can i use it in 20 qm partyroom? Is it precise? Thx
Thanks!
So should I go with 2 pb 1000 pro’s or one sb3000, I can’t afford two sb3000, Pb3000 would be nice but that’s so much more then the sb3000
Do the line level i/o jacks mean high pass?
Great review thanks. I think of the old debate SEALED or PORTED ? I like the looks and size of the SVS sealed cabinet you showed, The great divide.
I got the SB 1000 pro first and then the PB a couple days later. The SB was really good, but for $100 more (at the time) the PB 1000 was the one I kept (the advantage of buying from SVS direct is free 45 day returns). I'm not sure if the PB is $200 better with the latest pricing structure though.
@@moniack hey bud, I’ve been in a dilemma on this for a while. And wanted to ask why you kept the pb 1000 pro? I watch movies and play games but also listen to a lot of music. Is the sb 1000 really that much better for music? I am leaning towards the pb 1000 pro but im just thinking of whether or not it wud be the better choice. Please advise on reasons why u kept the pb. I live in indonesia so there’s no return policy here. Greatly appreciated
@@MikeyMoran you can always plug the ports on the PB, change the mode in the app to plugged, and it becomes the SB1000 pro (ask for plugs when you order it, they're free). The PB will have more output due to the ported design which is good for movies. The SB is a nice tidy size, and the PB is quite a bit larger. Either way they're both good, and the app is fantastic. Oh, and since buying the sub I also got the Prime center, ultra bookshelves, and just 2 days ago the satellite speakers.
@@moniack Suweet I was thinking with the app u can probably change the settings… and am asking the indo dealer here if it comes with the plugs for the ports. Thanks for the advice. I feel it’s not that much different and from what I’m seeing can’t go wrong with either sub. The music I listen to is mostly house, rnb hiphop which have a lot of base so I think the pb1000 wud be better for it. Thanks for the recs on the speakers as well
I have an sb 2000 pro and was always curious how it compares to the pb 1000. I just don’t have the space for a bigger sub right now. Pretty much use it for 50/50 music n home theater. Is the difference huge for movies between those two?
I have an SB3000 and I don't think there's a huge difference but one is sealed and one is ported. The PB1000 pro is a lot larger. I'm sure the 3000 can play louder/lower without distortion, but the difference might be less than you think
I see a lot reviewers staying away from subs, But I love the started out with the Monolith 10, then a pair of the SVS pro 1000s, now I’ve ordered pair Rhytmik F18s. Hope we can see more sub reviews in the future.
are they better than the monolith?
I feel like you've reviewed enough speakers and subwoofers now that "Best" is becoming more and more difficult to determine. It's so dependent on the use case and personal preference. You really have to just decide based on what's "best for Joe, and his use case and preferences". Great Job as usual Joe, and keep winning man! 💯
This is exactly right. I try to qualify as much as possible.
Monoth v10 vs pb1000? Which pme is better?
Hi Joe, i have a SB2000 in a 5.1.2 setup but im not totally satisfied by it and i think i should have bought a ported one. Do you think i will make an upgrade or a downgrade if i exchange the SB2000 for a PB1000 Pro model? Will i loose something?
I think it will be a side-grade. You will lose space and power for similar output.
Seems like a great sub but for how often SVS runs their outlet deals you can get the cheaper pb1000 which is a great sub. Or for the same price get the pb2000 which is an awesome sub. While the app is a great feature it's not a make or break deal for me.
Great video again joe
I might be weird but I swapped out my sb3000s for dual pb1000 pros and it sound so much better in my room for movies and music I think it more then ported sound I like and that’s my taste in sound but I wanna get a sb3000 again just for a music system. over all shopping for SVS subs is like a kid in a candy store seriously have to all haha. Again keep the videos coming joe 👌🍻
I hear you! 2 or more subs really helps to balance out bass in a room. The SB3000 is a beautiful sub though.
@@joentell Absolutely it is I had dual 3000s and just didn’t sound the same to me like a ported sub and I was coming from a pb3000 before sb3000s then went pb2000 single
Now got dual pb1000 pros and I’m amazed, it’s weird because iv gone down but maybe with less power I’m not canceling each other out in a 4x4m room
@@joentell and also running mini dsp and time a-lined I swear SVS out done themselves with the pb1000 pro has it pretty much easy takes over the old pb2000 none pros
@@mdoh8209 yes, how you integrate subs into your system is in my opinion more important than the raw performance of most subs by themselves.
Great video I have one on order but here in Canada this sub is $1100 so not really budget in my opinion but still the best sub in its price range
That blows. I was looking at PB-2000 pro for $1100
Yeah I feel you pain, here in Australia the PB 1000 pro is $1480 on sale :( but still a great sub a priced well compared to others
How are you liking it? I have one getting shipped out (also in Canada - BC) to replace a Klipsch SPL-100. Pretty stoked to hear it. Going in blind with this one!
@@TheDanmanguy It's great man. Hits hard and the bass is so clean, not boomy like my last Polk PSW505. Enjoy man you're going to like it!
@@av_rob79 awesome! Thanks for the reply. I’m really looking forward to it.
Hey Joe,
would you recommend an sb2000pro ? cause i dont have a ton of space for the pb model.
I was surprised with that SB2000 (non pro) in a 1200sq ft space. Depends on room size and your expectations.
I ended up picking up a 10 inch Wharfedale self powered sub for $60, it was hardly used and sounds great
This song has some nice lows. Enjoy! czcams.com/video/S-UJz18stGI/video.html
You would be surprised how better the SVS is over Wharfedale sub. I have there speakers. But SVS Subwoofer is one of the best.
I own both PB1000 and PB1000 Pro. I noticed that PB1000 Pro is more power efficient. On idle, PB1000 consumes 11.5W, whereas PB1000 Pro consumes only 4.7W. On sleep mode, both consume < 0.3W.
Interesting!!!
How about the performance? Is there any difference between them? Even if it is just a little bit more?
wtf
would this work with studio monitors?
I don't see why not.
Svs pb1000 pro or hsu research vtf 2 mk 5
@joeNtell this sub PB 1000 pro or monolith monoprice 10 for home theatre ? 3,000 cubic feet room. Thinking of going duals
Either. I don't know that I would be able to tell a huge difference if you were to blindfold me and swap them. Maybe slight edge to Monolith in performance, but SVS's app and customer support are top-notch from what I hear.
im torn between those 2 as well. the pb1000pro is a 12 inch driver but the monolith 10 is 10 inch. cant decide...
Compare svs pb 1000 to xtz 12.17,wich is cheaper and stronger,at least in europe
Really sucks that these went up 33% aka $200...kind of insane but with all of the control the app offers they're still value kings in my opinion.
how do u compare this with Sunfire sds 12 or Sunfire hrs12
Never tried those sorry
Hi Joe, thinking of getting Marantz cinema 50, and I’m thinking of using 4 Svs pb 1000’s what do you
I think you should go for it and enjoy your system. That's gonna be nuts!
@@joentell thanks, I’m at the beginning stage of setting my home theatre but when it’s done I’ll let you what it sounds like
Yes it is.
how does it do against the monolith 10
Similar performance. Perhaps the Monolith has slightly deeper extension. I would really have to push both to their limits. I have a feeling the limits on the Monolith are a bit higher, but only a CEA2010 measurement would confirm that thought. SVS's app and customer bill of rights is another factor to consider also. You have to figure out what's best for you.
@@joentell thanks much
@@joentell eventho the pb1000pro is a 12 inch driver vs the 10 inch on the monolith?
Currently at $800 I don’t think this can be considered a budget woofer anymore. I’m looking at the RSL S10 now.
Damn, 599$? Was this a sale price? I just paid 799$.
Nah I'd say the best budget would still be the original 1000 on a sale around the $400 range considering the price on the pro is over double at $899 rn.
Man its $800 now. Over 30% jump
I have the PB 1000 Pro and in my opinion, it lacks volume. Even turned all the way up, it lacks low-end punch and power. There is no substitute for sound pressure which can only be obtained with a larger woofer that moves more air.
Whoop whoop
Liked and Subbed.
This or the Monolith M-12 V2?
Toss up. I think this can play 16hz at a higher SPL, but the dual 12's can play louder from 20hz and up.
I have had 2 love them, looking to get two Rhytmik 18’s though. What about a Rhytmik review👀?
I've reached out to Rhythmik when I first started and they weren't interested at the time. I'm not in a rush to review a ton of subs. They take up a lot of space.
How you liking your two 18's?
Haven’t got them yet, they are do in the first of November. Also bought the Monolith 10 on your recommendation, it’s in my office I love it. Currently the SVS 1000’s are in the theatre.
Great review, getting ready get into REW.!
I was ready to pull the trigger and the price jumps $200. 😧 nooooo.
Exceeded Joe's expectations in a subwoofer of this price. That is quite a statement. If Joe was a professor getting a B- in his class would mean more than an A+ from any other professor
Haha. I'm not that hard on stuff. 😂 Always look forward to your comment
@@joentell Fresh Hater Jay: JoeNTell is not that hard on stuff. BUT I AM.
$1100CAN isn't exactly my idea of "budget". Hell, my Audioengine sub was less than half that and there's lots of cheaper subs than mine
Serious question. How is a sub at 500 bucks a budget sub?
Because there isn't a new sub available under that price that can do 20 Hz. Budget is a relative term. A $20K car might be considered budget, but still expensive.
Joe, I’m surprised picked the SVS Micro sub over the KEF micro sub. Can you do a head to head?
I think it's a better value. The smaller size of the KEF and build quality are still impressive.
Good shout!!!
Its $799. What.! Please. I'd buy two RSL speedwoofer 10s.
I've been waiting for this! Finally lol
Unfortunate timing with the SVS price increase going into effect yesterday, HSU VTF-2 mk5 might be the budget king again now.
How big is the HSU? Does it have DSP? Never reviewed one before
@@joentell no DSP, similar size but digs a bit deeper, in room around 15hz around 100dB is typical with that HSU.
SVS starts to roll off around 21hz vs the HSU around 17hz
Comes down to extension(HSU) vs DSP/App(SVS) Mid bass is similiar.
Another competitor is the Outlaw X12, identical performance to the VTF2 MK5 but with better bracing, better amp and a nicer finish(nicest finish of the 3) but it MSRP $675 is hard to swallow, it goes on sale 2-4 times a year around $500-550.
Enthusiast have 3 great options at this price point with SVS/HSU/Outlaw
@@marcgallant5270 I'm always curious how a sub can hit sub 20hz without DSP and still be flat. I'm sure it's possible, but much easier with DSP
@@joentell the old school way, port/box tuning. There's tons of DIY subs with no DSP that can even hit 5-10hz! I'm no expert though but i'm very involved with the subwoofer community on avsforums . Ive read/seen just about every measurement available on most subs, if its been measured chances are I've analyzed it :), at least in the last decade.
SVS price increase goes into effect Monday, October 4th.
Love SVS Subs (I have 4 of them) ! But your comment on physics wasn't accurate.. Kef proved that with their micro subs, they dip below 15hz and overall sound great.
I've reviewed the KEF KC62 and my comment about physics is very accurate. Watch that review and you will understand.
@@joentell hi Joe, I understand the limitations of small sub enclosures very well. I only mentioned a recent/competitive sub to the SVS. However, I don't think you either tested, heard or recall the small subs that were trending 10+ years ago from other companies e.g. Sunfire , Earthquake, Def-Tec and Velodyne. I owned a pair of Velodyne mini vee 8"ers and the mini 10". Small, servo, 1000 watt rms, 2000 watts peak, down to 23hz without room gain and they'd still kick half of the 12"+ subs butt out here today. Also the Kef sub I was referring to (my bad) is the Kef - KF92 Sub. Thx 👍🏽
@@ben23a31 Yeah, I remember that old Sunfire True Subwoofer with 3000 watts. I've reviewed the SVS 3000 Micro and I was impressed with it. With enough power and power handling, you can do amazing things with a small sub. It's just much easier to do with a larger sub at a lower cost.
@@ben23a31 You could have mentioned the sub brand that every major film studio in the US use, not to mention Dolby, DTS and THX... M&K Subwoofers... :)
@@Echo-jg8is Indeed lol
Looks like the price will be increasing to $800 tomorrow.
i was going to buy it for 599 on sunday but decided to read a little more before buying it and now the price of 799. what should i do?
@@carlos_al Amazon still has the PB-1000 (non pro/no dsp app) for $450 and the monolith 10 can be had for $500. Grab one of those before they increase in price also. Or if the DSP app is big deal to you, than just get the SB-1000 pro.
Comes down to room size too 🤔
YES!!!! I forgot that one. I'm in a 20x20x9 ft room
@@joentell another excellent review 💃🏻
No I don't believe it is. It's a close call, but IMO the title should go to the RSL Speedwoofer 10s
I haven't tried it so I can't say for sure.
Bruh if a kid drew on my subwoofer, it's gon' be problems
PB 1000 PRO or SB 1000 Pro? Movies and music.
You'll get more output and bass extension with the ported PB1000 Pro. The SB1000 Pro is significantly smaller. Both are awesome for what they are. It's more about your room size, distance from the subs, and your personal expectations for how loud you want to play the system.
Is the (svs pb-sb 1000 pro the best for the price) probably not the pb is $800 now!! And the sb is $600 now!!
I got mine 3 weeks ago before the increase- fortunately my old sub chose the right time to die. At $800 I would not have bought it- way over budget.
Why this price increase? See it in Sweden too. $ 1089.85. Sick.
@@hessmo they said shipping costs have gone way up as well as drivers.
2600 USD?
Now $799. WTF????
$400 isn’t budget or cheap. Unless you have a decently large budget. This would be well over $1000 for a simple system.
I get it!
You're asking me?
Sure
The SB 1000 pro is not bad either.
No way, the Monolith 10 THX is a much better choice.
It looks like SVS is really getting subwoofer business from Hsu. Hsu started several years earlier than SVS. Hsu is charging exceedingly more shipping cost than SVS and no free return. One has to really think harder before buying from Hsu, otherwise, paying for shipping and then for return, that will cost more than $200 just for two way shipping. If one is not careful on return time, Hsu will charge %15 restocking fee. That is another big sum to waste.
Base on many user review and comparisons, Hsu subs are more musical than SVS subs at the similar price points. One main difference is that SVS subs have more group delays than Hsu sub, Monolith 12" thx sub is also tested to have less group delay than SVS 12" subs. PB-1000 pro has a -5 dip at 25 Hz also, not as flat as Monolith 12" thx sub.
555 weeder
“ The People’s Subwoofer”? Should put a red star on it. Lol.
Messin
That's a good one!!!
@@joentell ha. Right? And the government can produce them and give one to each family. Lol
As soon as we seize the means of production. :")@@Nightjar726
Just noticed they had a price increase. I'd like to buy 2 SVS PB1000/2000 pros to compare against my Ultimax 12s tuned to 19Hz.
But the price is just too far beyond what I feel is justifiable (Only because I'm comfortable with DIY) even to just try out and return.
My 12s seem to be flat to 17Hz whereas the PB1000 Pro as you shown is -6dB at 17Hz so for me personally the sub probably isn't up to my standards.
Though that isn't me trying to say the subs suck. If they did they wouldn't be a very successful business now would they. (I low key recommend SVS to those that can't do DIY)
As a side note. You could probably knock down that bump near it's roll off and then they 17Hz extension looks even better. Though for me I'd still prefer it to be more flat right off the bat.
Anyway sorry for the long winded comment. Thanks for the review! (If you keep getting bigger subs to test you'll need to reinforce your house haha)
"budget"
Knock, knock. Who's there?.. RSL Speedwoofer 10s V2. Did someone say Best budget subwoofer?
its not a buget sub,at least in europe
"Budget"?? I find 900 euro not "budget". Ita great but not affordable for many people
I understand. Not cheap I know. But it would be tough to find another sub new that has this level of performance for less with the same features.
@@joentell absolutely true. I have it since a week. Awesome
SVS priced the PB 1000 way to expensive for the SPECS
Based on their performance, I wouldn't say they're overpriced. There are others that may be a better value, but these perform well at their price point IMO. You can also check out the Monolith and RSL offerings. I've been impressed with the products from all of these companies.
budget lmao
I know, I can see where someone might look at this a as pricey. It's all relative I guess.
Take this video down, this sub is now $800 no longer "budget"
Hahaha $800 is budget. Sure whatever.
The subwoofer leaderboard is a joke if you don't have JTR, PSA and Rythmic on the list!