MANK Ending Explained & Real Life Similarities to CITIZEN KANE
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- čas přidán 3. 12. 2020
- In this video we take a look at David Fincher's latest movie for Netflix, MANK and how its ending and events inspired the making of Orson Welles' CITIZEN KANE.
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When are you doing your next Mandalorian episode break down???
Aww no a dad pun lol
Great video...If I may give one correction..Susan Kane was not based on Marion Davis (Mank also mentioned in the movie), as she was based on a real opera singer Ganna Walscka . The real Marion Davis was a real talented actress
Marion Davies. @@markusbisma5015
Gary Oldman is such an amazing actor!
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Gary Oldman is definitely one of the best actors Hollywood has and there is definitely no other actor who could ever compare.
Agreed 💯
Check out Robert Carringer's "The Making of Citizen Kane" for the truth; there were 5 scripts that Welles worked on after Mank submitted his "American" script. Gary Oldman deserves an Oscar for this, but the idea that Welles and Mank didn't share the writing is B.S.
But did you read American? Because Gary Oldman said on a interview that everything was there in this first draft of American. Of course it needed treatment, after all it was a 300 page long draft, but if the ideias and scenes and lines were all there, I don't know... And besides he never said he wanted to be credited alone in the movie, he just said he wanted credit...
The treatment of Welles wasn't appropriate. There were six or seven drafts of the screenplay, only the first and last Mank was involved with. The script wouldn't have been what it was without Welles' input/editing in later drafts. The character of Kane in the initial draft was a total skeleton compared to what Welles turned it into. Disappointed with Fincher playing into the "Welles had no part in writing the film" argument that has been pretty much debunked over the last forty years.
They make him look like an old-timey evil magician.
Couldn't agree more
Pauline Kael with her book was the architech of that lie.
Thanks for the explainer! I had trouble focusing on this movie drifting off in the middle. But your analysis inspires me to rewatch Mank and Citizen Kane. Love your channel! I always come here to see what you have to say.
With Wells being known for micro managing every aspect of Kane's production, it is hard to believe he didn't have any input on the screenplay. Specially because there were at least five drafts of the script, not all of them written by Mank.
A big reason why, Citizen Kane is considered the best movie ever is because it did things no other movies were doing back then.
“Mank” was a very compelling. Fincher’s movies keep getting better. I don’t know why this movie is so thought provoking. Thanks for your take on it.
4:00 on the vomit scene: one of the best lines in the movie "this wasn't impolite. the fish came up with the white wine."
Thanks for the great video. It really helped me understand the film and its context better. Continue the good work :-)
Just watched Citizen Kane in its entirety. I am amazed it is so modern in feel and style and subject matter.
i should watch it again. Had to watch it in high school but fell asleep thru it in class, was told to watch it at home and fell asleep again....
This movie was a well crafted journey in time with excellent writing and wit- a must see for any movie fan.
Most of the people who have watched Citizen Kane before gave the credit to Orson Welles despite of haivng mank is a co writer, and some of us today are unaware of how much the creation of it's story affected Henry Mankiewicz but because of this film Mank is given more credit. I like how this film is throwing shade on the faults of capitalism. It's a film about the struggles of screenplay writers during that period, The problems before are still present of today hope this film will be given more exposure than the bullshit netflix films.
I absolutely love this movie. One of the problems is you have to have seen Citizen Kane and know about the behind the scenes drama to actually enjoy. As, I watched it with someone who didn't any of that and didn't think the film was that good.
Loved it, like steping back in time.
In 1931, while waiting in New York for the ship that would take him to Ireland (where, later that year, he would also launch his career as a professional actor), Orson Welles - at age 16 - attended a performance of the Susan Glaspell play, "Alison's House." By the time he left the theater Welles had "banked" in his mind the germinal idea for "Citizen Kane." "Alison is a world-renowned poet about whose personal life almost nothing is known. Upon her death, a reporter is assigned to get behind her public image and reveal the real Alison. After conducting several unsatisfactory interviews, the reporter come to realize how futile his task is going to be. Granted, there is no Rosebud in "Alison's House; however, the plots could not be more similar.
Do you think mank wrote himself in citizen kane as the character Jebadiah Leland?
Very interesting question?
Absolutely
Bill Nye the Actor guy.
thank you so much for this, i understood it a lot more, really interesting :D
Agnes Moorehead should get more credit. Most people only think of her as Esmeralda on Bewitched!
I thought it was Bill Nye but was like nah it wouldnt be him
It's him.
I know right?!
Why not? He's always been an actor. Not a scientist.
I really like this movie.. Its not an easy one to digest especially if you are not familiar with the historical background
Thank you for a thoughtful, informative and insightful vision into this film. Because of your review i will be seeing this film, and i will enjoy it all the more because of this.
From what i have read over the years, WRH inadvertantly ruined Marion Davies career by placing her in dull, grandiose costume-y melodramas, when she was a talented comedienne, sort of an undeveloped 80's Meg Ryan. It must have been a heavy weight to be in WRH's inner circle, knowing he could destroy you in a second, and in Miss Marion's example, even when he didn't try to. He is the human embodiment of absolute power corrupting, and i wonder if he ever had a moment of introspection.
Now from what i understand of Orson Welles he was terribly egocentric and somewhat immature; I kind of feel that perhaps he deserved less of a writing credit than he would ever admit...
Thanks again.
3:10 i'm laughing so hard now
Mank was not a Stank of a movie. Enjoyed it. Great vid
First, Citizen Kane isn't about Hearst. The lie that it is was promoted by Hedda Hopper, who wanted to damage her rival gossip columnist, Louella Parsons, who worked for Hearst papers and championed Welles. The opera story comes from the life of Robert R. McCormick, which Welles knew through his mother, a concert pianist, who was part of the Chicago music scene. And multiple episodes from Kane's life come Orson Welles's own life. e.g., Bernstein was the name of Welles's guardian. Mank was a used-up drunk who realized he was onto something big by working with Welles and tried to grab more credit than he deserved.
@5:30 holy crap no wonder that guy sounded so familiar lol.
It was the first movie in years that I loved
Thanks for putting aspects of the film in perspective.
Although I love Hollywood history I found this film empty. It took me three times to finish viewing it. I can appreciate movies of D.Fincher but for this one I found it
was a bad script that goes in all kind of directions. (I think his father only wrote this script at the end of his life). It's not unique to Netflix, but any historical narrative comes
with its share of distortion. About Mank saving over 100 people from a village in Germany (people who immigrated to the United States) it’s making him sympathetic to the
viewers, for sure. But while it is true that Herman J.M. facilitated things for those in bad situations, nothing proves the exact number of people he helped. Technically I found
that the B&W images were «gray» in some parts of the film. At the time (for C Kane) they use old lamps that was giving a lot of contrast on film. The overall look of «Mank»
seemed like the shoot of luxurious advertising spot. I read that Fincher asked Amanda Sayfried to say her lines about 200 times and in other scene he asked G.Oldman to say
his lines about a 100 times. Does it make it better for the film, I don’t think so. (At this point perfectionism is a pathology, Fincher should consult a specialist).
They say a film has three parts; when it’s written, when it’s shot and when it’s edited. If «Mank» tries to prove that Herman is the real man behind «Citizen Kane», he wins
the first part... but Welles wins hands down for the rest imho.
This film was amazing
Bill Nye easily had the best performance in this movie
I knew that was him!
this movie is really good but it mostly makes citizen kane look even better
Mank deserves the credit
Good film, and a testament to the writer's journey in those early WGA days. But was that Orson Welles's actual sound byte at the end when he said, "Kiss my half?" or did ne only send that as a telegram?
Hey think, sorry to barge in with an unrelated topic, but why no new Mandalorian videos?
Yes. I too was also wondering this!
Me 3. WTF is the deal? I’ve been watching Screen Crush for the breakdowns now.
I don't know if it's true or not but I heard Orson had two versions of the screen play. One is his, the other is mank, he took both of them to his secretary. He instructed her to type the combined two into one gave her instructions on how to do it. Can someone help me with this rumor thank you
It was a bit overly talky for me but it was pretty good and exceeded my expectations. Gary Oldman was fantastic!
Where's your Mandalorian vids? Always enjoyed your analysis videos about that show.
That said, I also liked Mank.
I love to fly... I don't have to know how an airplane works, but I'm compelled to find out more and not just chalk it up to magic. I love cinema, too. I truly enjoy movies like "Mank" or "Five Came Back" or "They'll Love Me When I'm Dead" or "Curtiz" or "Trumbo" not because they expose the magic, but because they reveal the genius. "Mank" solves nothing. There will always be a question as to who wrote what. "Mank" is an homage to a different way of making films and an expose' of the most enigmatic question about what is considered the pinnacle of 20th century cinema. I love the Mandalorian, too, by-the-way... but I'm equally interested in why it works for so many people's enjoyment. Ah, cinema!
i feel like gary oldman's character had to basically carry the plot all by himself
the other actors like amanda sayfried and charles dance had a few good moments but didn't get enough time on screen to make me like their characters
Informative movie and commentary--esp. about the political career (short-lived) of Upton Sinclair. "Kane" is more entertaining, or "engaging," because rather than a dramatic monolog by the central character we're given the point of view of characters close to him--Thatcher, Bernstein, Jed Leland, Susan, The Butler, the "objective" lens of the camera--each of which fills us in with the details vital to a fuller understanding of Kane (if not the referent of "Rosebud"). Lacking that distance from its eponym, "Mank" becomes more of a self-indulgent monolog by a single speaking voice--Mank's (or Gary Oldman's). Frankly, it began to wear on me in a manner totally unlike "Kane." Perhaps professional writers should be discouraged from writing up their own lives, especially if that includes a climactic performance for the Monkey Grinder himself. A bit of restraint in the last 30 minutes along with a few more concessions to the visual language of film would have been a welcome lift to us all.
There was no cane in Citizen Kane.
I thought the movie Mank was good although I had seen Citizen Kane many times. Movies are a powerful medium and unfortunately there are those who will never do research to find fact vs truth. As far as the character of Susan Alexander as a satirical Marion Davies history will show there is no comparison. Davies was very talented, entrepreneurial, and rich. It’s interesting how film makers insert there own hand print to dramatically change the narrative but that’s Hollywood.
It was a very well-made film, although a few of the exaggerations that didn't fit so well. It wasn't necessary to invent a whole town that he saved - he did save hundreds of Jews (enough for a town), that would have been fine. I don't mind them putting in a fictional character or changing some facts to tell a good story, but it just seemed to jump out when they got things wrong. Overall a great production. Queens' Gambit was better though.
Could u do big sky
braaaaaaaahhhh........youre 3 episodes of the mandalorian behind!! whats up? Are you not recapping that show no more??
You barely touched the parable which is the title of your video?
He rescued 100 people. A whole village.
(You find out it isn’t true)
Why the fuck would you add that?
Go to Screen Crush for latest Mando breakdowns. Not sure what happened here... 🤷♀️
What happened to last weeks Mandalorian episode?
But where is The Mandalorian break down from last week?! 🥺
Finally someone said it
@@ethancampbell7998 IT WAS THE BEST EPISODE SO FAR!
He found out baby yoda’s real name and stopped watching 😒
from last week??? He's 3 episodes behind now!
@@slowpie ☹️☹️
I enjoyed the movie. Before this I thought Orsen Wells wrote the script.
Same. What an eye opening experience.
Orson WellEs did co-wrote the script, this movie portrays Mankiewicz' point of view wich is highly subjective. There is numerous evidence that firmly debunk the theory that Mankiewicz is a sole screenwriter, he wrote the first two drafts, five rewrites followed, changing the script significantly... Movies are usually very creative with facts :).
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Boring film with generally unlikable characters. Beautifully shot, but laborious to get through.
Thanks for pointing out the main themes under what was a truly boring flick.
Sorry, but I can't respect a director that so grossly misrepresents history and piously tries to pass it off as insight. Most of the story having to do with Upton Sinclair is totally fabricated. And as others have noted, Orson Welles contributed significantly to the screenplay. Thanks Pauline!!
gimme my Mandalorian
Trump is so similar. Even his second wife got bad musical reviews.
Except young Trump never had ideals, he was always an empty vessel motivated by self aggrandizement and greed.
👍 up to explaining Mank. Too cerebral so much and requires lots of knowledge of era.
This movie was boring ..didn't make it all the way through
Welles should have been played by a black man.....or women.
Are you aware that Jewish people throw away their handkerchieves after a funeral so they don't bring their tears and sadness home with them? You are making a lot of statements, stating them as truths, when they are merely your assumptions ...and not very accurate ones at that.