500mm/s Bambu Lab P1P 3D printer: Another atomic bomb to the 3D printing industry, In-depth review
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
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(P1P $699) (X1 $1199) (X1 Carbon w/AMS $1499)
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00:00 Intro
02:38 Test Print: PLA 3D benchy, why it's slower than the X1?
05:26 Test Prints: PLA XYZ Cube, Honeycomb box, Eiffel tower, Voronoi deer
08:57 Test Prints: PLA Pro function parts
10:27 Test Print: PETG phone holder
11:00 Test Print: TPU Snorlax
11:49 Test Print: ABS functional parts
14:05 Test Print: Nylon Carbon Fiber functional parts
15:12 Test Print: Polycarbonate functional parts
16:43 Pros
19:25 Cons
21:42 Conclusions
Welcome back to Aurora tech channel. Today, I am going to review the Bambu Lab P1P printer. Since Bambu Lab launched its first X1 printer about 6 months ago, it has really changed the 3D printing industry quite a bit. Major manufacturers are starting to make fast printing printers, as I have reviewed several in my more recent videos, so I would say Bambu Lab is a bit of a wake-up call to all manufacturers.
As their flagship BambuLab X1 Carbon with multi-material system cost $1500, it may not be so affordable for many hobbyists, so they just launched a simplified version, the Bambu Lab P1P. It comes at a much more affordable price of $699, but as expected, when the price goes down, some features have been removed.
Let’s take a look at the hardware of this printer. It shares many of the same components as the X1. They are both CoreXY kinematic 3D printers with linear rods on the Y and Z-axis and a carbon rod on the X-axis, they have the same extruder and hotend, which can reach up to 300C, they have the same triple Z-axis lead screws and the same sturdy box frame, and this printer supports WiFi printing, or rather cloud printing as you still use the same Bambu Studio slicer that allows you to send print jobs to the cloud and print directly. If you mainly print PLA, PETG, TPU, and other low-temperature filaments, it basically works just like the X1 in terms of print speed and print quality.
However, some features have been removed. This printer doesn’t have an enclosure, the micro lidar for pressure advance calibration has also been removed, and it has no color touch screen and instead has an LCD screen. The cool plate and engineering plate have been changed to a double-sided textured PEI sheet. The built-in camera, LED light, and Auxiliary cooling fan are optional upgrades.
In this video, I will print with different materials to see how this P1P works and talk about the Pros and Cons and what I think of this printer. I would like to thank Bambu Lab for sending this machine to me, and with that, let’s get started.
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(P1P $699) (X1 $1199) (X1 Carbon w/AMS $1499)
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Any chance you've printed tiny tiny parts? I want to print 1/64 scale parts for hot wheels accessories and my s1 pro can't seem to get the first layers down consistently. And input?
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First off, excellent review! I suspected there would be struggles with filaments like ABS due to the lack of an enclosure but it's nice to see the proof (and that it can at least still do shorter, high-infill parts in temperature-sensitive filaments). I also honestly really like the LED screen - other than the lack of a spinning knob, it looks both stylish and functional. And the idea of being able to buy a "starter" version of the X1 and add parts to it over time is a good one - as a personal fan of budget printers that have tons of upgrade options for those who want them or who can't afford a Cadillac printer right off the bat, being able to add things like side panels, the auxiliary fan, and the like at a later date is nice.
The thing that gets me, though, is the lower maximum bed temp...I'm struggling to think of an engineering- or cost-related reason why it would be lower than the X1. Is the bed heater physically different or does the P1P use the same hardware but has additional limitations set by the firmware? If it is just a firmware tweak, why? If it's different hardware, why add complexity to your inventory and purchasing systems (multiple suppliers are never a bad idea, but at least get parts with similar performance)? Why promote the P1P as something to be upgraded when it's handcuffed right off the bat for higher-temperature filaments? I understand pretty much every other design choice when going from the X1 to the P1P but the nerfed bed temperature is a real head-scratcher for me.
Some of my X1 concerns also carry over here, with the closed-source setup for everything from nozzles to build plates to spare parts to firmware to the slicer, reliance on the cloud for slicing, and the wastefulness of the purge system for multi-color printing (I'm still quite convinced that independent extruders are the only real solution for multi-material printing). I would be interested to see if a future X2 Carbon and/or P2P were made as a large-format, multiple-extruder printer (perhaps via toolchanger than multiple independent print heads), though I can see the cost of such a printer being closer to $2500 than $1500 and it likely wouldn't solve the closed-source problem at all.
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Wow... This has to be the single most informative and to the point video I've ever seen lmao. Great job. I had never heard of Bambu Labs, but after owning an Ender 3 Pro and an Anycubic Vyper, this seems to be the next logical step in upgrading.
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I really appreciate all of your excellent reviews. They have helped me a ton as I am new to 3D printing. I would love if you did a video on what you do with all of the test models you print. Do you keep them? Display them? Recycle them?
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I have been reviewing the P1P for a week and this is the best review I have seen. Great presentation as well. Thank you. Subbed.
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Great video! I think you are the only reviewer that has pointed out the loading filament oversight. There also is no cool down option. This machine cuts out a lot more things than Bambu originally leas us to believe, and all the prerelease videos just said it was a X1 missing sides, camera, and Lidar. There is a lot more missing. Including a lot the cut out of PrusaSlicer.
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To fix sticking issues, simply calibrating the bed to be a temperature high enough for the plastic to stick worked for me like a charm, you should try it as well
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Another reason to get the enclosure: noise. It keeps a fair amount off noise inside. BTW, even with the enclosure fully closed, it still prints PLA and PETG perfectly, even with all default settings.
Would be interesting to print the side panels and try to seal up the top and front of your P1P for printing ABS without warping.
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This is the best P1P review I've seen! Great job, and thanks for respecting everyone's time by compacting only useful information into your review. One issue with the Lidar on the X1 is that it doesn't work with a textured plate, which is why the X1 has a smooth plate. To me this is a big negative, as the P1P can use both smooth AND textured plate, but unless the lidar option can be disabled on the X1 then you only have the smooth plate option. This is the main thing that would keep me from buying an X1, since I use textured surfaces a lot on electronics enclosure boxes because it makes text cutouts show up better on face plates. I have a P1P I use for work and was considering getting an X1 for personal use, but that lidar issue is a deal breaker unless it can be turned off to use texture plates. Most of the negatives I see on P1P are software based and could be fixed with firmware updates, so I'm hoping they listen to customer feedback and add things like single button filament loading, a reprint button at the end of a print and the ability to turn off that 8 minute long calibration at the start of every print. Adding the ability to start a print on the Bambu Handy app is also something they really need to add.
Exactly the video we needed to see! Thank you so very much for the review! :D
Great video and very in depth. I see at 15:18 you have the same error showing on the screen that I have. Were you able to fix it?
Good review. The only thing I would add is that Lost In Tech found low ambient temperatures _do not-_ appear to have a negative impact on ABS performance. Shutting out the drafts with an enclosure was sufficient even at near freezing temperatures.
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Another awesome video. I'm putting my P1P through it's paces right now.
P1P does come in a fancy cardboard enclosure that will let you print ABS for the side panels.
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Great review.
As someone who mostly print PLA, SBS, PETG and TPU this printer seems to be the one to go for. Although I can't complain about my 2 Ender 3 S1's, CR-10s and 2 Ender 2 Pro's.
The biggest reason to go for a printer like this is the speed. South Africa is having constant power outs on a daily basis, even going 12 hours a day without power. So fitting your prints into a power window is of financial importance. The cost over the years caused by print failures caused but power outs is equal to the cost of a p1p over the years.
Thank you for your in depth review, and efforts. Much appreciated. Happy New Year. May 2023 bring us more awesome reviews from ATC and you more subscribers.
resume on powerloss sounds like a feature you need.
@@padrescout When it works. My 2 Ender 3 S1's printed side by side. 1 recovered. the other, decided not to recover this time. So powerloss recovery is a hit or miss thing. It usually misses on the big prints. I was 75% through a HALO helmet..
@@padrescout I forgot to mention. If you use a buildfplate that auto release when it cools down, 4 hours without power will cool down the buildplate and release the print. That includes glass.
@@MrGerhardGrobler Yeah, sounds like you definitely do need a super fast printer. Also I'm sorry to hear about your Halo helmet print getting ruined, that sounds like a cool print and that's a bummer on the the lost time and plastic.
This is an excellent video, and is one of the best reviews of the P1P that I've seen.
Great video. I always look forward to your take on new printers. One question for you...I sometimes notice what looks like some black tube at the edge of the frame when you print ABS. I suspect that's an air-cleaning device. I'm looking into air filtering and was wondering what you use. Thanks.
Thanks for another great informative article video. This one definitely has me convinced to get the X1 Carbon when I have the money saved. I am going to print a lot of CF and gf products so well worth the price. Thanks again for the great information and effort you put into this. 💪
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Thank you for your in-depth review.
I got the X-1 Carbon and hoping to finally explore into other types of filament. But I couldn't resist getting the P1P for just PLA prints.
Great review + immediately subscribed!
The X1 (not the Carbon) would be my first choice, but is sold out on their website. Any news if it will be available or is it discontinued?
@5:25 you said you changed the settings to get speed to match. I have the fan added on, and I do not show cooling on setup. Any help would be great.
Just ordered a p1p. This review helped me comes to the decision. I live in a hot environment, and i dont think CF nylon would be an issue for me. I do have one question. Were you able to print abrasive materials right off the bat, or did you have to order the hardened steel hot end/nozzle from their website? I would appreciate it if u could let me know. Thanks!!!
Thanks for the tip on changing 8 to 4 in cooling!
Thank you for this comprehensive review ! - I appreciated particularly the different test models and materials you used…
Could you perhaps post the hex box model please? I didn’t find it in the list of models.
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Wonderful detailed review as usual ❤ thank you very much for your effort and time!
I really liked the card holder, can you please share the *.stl since I couldn’t find it in description
Great video. Professional, informative and easy to understand.
Great job on the reviews Aurora, and was interested in the feedback on this versus the X1. Even in Australian dollars seems a good value machine.
Very nice and detailed review. I purchased the X1C for the high temp enclosed materials, however it drove me nuts for PLA as I needed to remove the top. When Bambu announced the P1P, it was my perfect solution. The P1P screen takes some time getting used to and I wish it was larger. I don't mind the "older" style screen, hover I wish it was a rotary knob. The accessories while a nice addition and I received mine free when I preordered are not the most user-friendly installs. On point the camera. I also wish they kept the drag chain. I get reducing costs to get to a price point, however there are some head scratchers like the new connector for the hot end assembly. Still a very nice printer for the money.
I just use some printed pieces to hold the glass top open slightly and have had very little issue printing pla with my x1c!
Great Review, thank you so much, excellent professional communication skills , great job mom and dad...
Thank you for another excellent review. With fully integrated printers like this, I’m wondering how user serviceable they are compared with Prusas or Enders.
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Well balanced review thank you.
Nice looking system and price point. I could see it being big competition to the PRUSA printers if it proves to be as durable. I could see pushing to get one at work to use along with our PRUSA.
You are very intelligent, and always give us the best reviews in the 3D printer world, and it's because of you that I decided what printer to buy as my first 3D printer, thank you so much ☺️
Just ordered my p1p on sale for $599. Can't wait for it to show up. I am tired of my ender 3v2 constantly failing.
Great video. Now question...can you upgrade to the touch screen?
Very professional review. Thankyou
Does anyone know if you can setup the AMS to change to the next roll if the current one runs out? I’d like to know if I can load 4 identical rolls and the machine will simplify move to the next one when the current one runs out.
Wow, you did a great job, thanks. No glitzy stuff, right to the point. Thanks, I hate those over-the-top "actors" on other channels. Subscribed, and liked!!
were you using the steel extruder or the one included with the unit?
Would love to know your thoughts on the P1S with AMS - any plans on testing that? Been trying to decide if I should get that or the A1 with AMS. With the current $849 Black friday pricing for the P1S and AMS I'm torn.
I changed the layer to 4 like you did but my print quality went down a lot… any advice anyone can give on why that is? Do I need to change more settings?
Wow what a review! thanks so much for such important review, with that we know what we want to know and more. About the file to build the Eiffel tower, I wonder where I could find it?
thanks in advance
Will printing our own side panels help on more consistent heat?
I already placed an order for P1P, but seeing this video gave me second thoughts.
Should I rather get the X1 AMS combo? It's a step up from what I had originally (not...) planned to spend. Iiiih the choises!
Great honest review . so basically a firmware update would be great for the loading of filament.
can i print pp material with p1p? and how to load the filament? wich speed and temperature required?
Nice machine for that price When printing ABS or other materials known to warp without an enclosure, try pointing an electric ceramic heater at the print from as close as you can get it. It really helps in winter.
That cold garage is the main fail of this test. 15 degree of Celsius is not normal working temperature by far. Otherwise it was excellent informative review. 👍
Of all the reviews you've done, the review of the bamboo labs printers really makes me want to get one. I want the x-1 pretty bad, but I can settle for this one too.
Great review.
I bought the X1C without AMS a couple of months ago. I've been mostly thrilled with it, besides the odd filament jam, and I can't say I'd recommend the P1P over the X1C; the loss of features in the P1P is just too much, especially if you plan to print ABS/ASA or other technical materials like polycarbonate. If you're already in for $700, another $500 for a fully enclosed printer, hardened steel extruder gears and hardened steel nozzle, slightly higher build plate max temp, 1080p webcam (P1P webcam is 0.5 fps, 720p) is totally worth it, imo.
@@theglowcloud2215 Heh, I was already intending to save up for the X1C, but thanks for reinforcing my choice friend.
Like the channel. Any chance you could review some of the new Anycubic printers? The kobra would be the one I would like to see. Thanks
I'm thinking on getting this or the x1c do you think the quality of this is just as good as the x1c
I went with the P1P instead of the X1 because this will be my first 3D printer and the X1 is still 40% more expensive and does not have DEX (dual extruder). I am also going to be printing primarily with PLA and TPU and likely nothing more exotic, except perhaps trying wood filament sometime. I will get to know 3D printing for a year or two then likely pre-order the X2 which will hopefully have DEX.
Hey, amazing video, I got my hands on a BambuLab P1P and I’m wondering if u made any changes to the normal PLA settings with using other brands than Bambus PLA. I’m using redline filament and I’m kinda disappointed with the quality. Lowered speed, changed flow rate, … but still not as I had seen in videos and what I was expecting (layers aren’t even, top layer doesn’t look clean, …). It does even worse than my ender 3v2 in some occasions. Maybe someone can help me here or I wasn’t lucky with my device…
Thank you for you review!! Just subscribed. May I ask if you would please consider comparing the bambu lab x1 to the prusa mk4?
Yes, I will do that in the future.
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Great review!
I saw this and ended up getting a p1p so yeah good review
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