The legend of Lemania

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • Today we're working on an old Lemania watch with their caliber 1341 from the early 1970's that has seen better days. Lemania is perhaps the most reputed maker of chronographs ever, having made the movements inside the Speedmaster moonwatch and many storied Omega's, Tissot's as well as other major brands.
    We'll discuss a bit of Lemania history and touch upon how the quartz crisis impacted the Swiss watch industry specifically on the chronograph front. And we ping a part into the great beyond!
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Komentáře • 253

  • @YUHJKT
    @YUHJKT Před 2 lety +7

    When you see a watch maker snap on some black finger cocks, it's time to get the hell out of Dodge. Watchmakers are like enforcers in the NHL. They are definitely willing and able to throw down. I'm scared just thinking about it.

  • @terryaustin7140
    @terryaustin7140 Před 3 lety +14

    This is the most complicated movement I've seen restored on CZcams. Amazing work. You are an artist.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +2

      Thanks so much Terry! It's one of the more complicated I've worked on also, which makes it fun :)

  • @gromit1996
    @gromit1996 Před 3 lety +12

    All those springs!! Oh my. Amazing work. Also, a "mortally wounded, yet strangely horny sea lion" is the most interesting thing I've heard in a watch repair video.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +3

      😂 I suppose that phrase isn't commonly spoken in any circumstances! I felt it most adequately described the sounds I was making 😁 Thanks for watching and for your kind words!

  • @Matt-uj6jm
    @Matt-uj6jm Před 2 lety +1

    My favourite vintage watch in the military range that is 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Thank you for another exceptional video.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      Thanks a lot Matt! Lemania is not that well known as a stand alone brand, but their reputation as movement providers are among the very finest.

  • @avam222
    @avam222 Před rokem +1

    Repairing a seriously corroded 1341 ..hobbyist .. this video has been invaluable .. lots of videos on CZcams of this type..for me Stian you are one of the best.

  • @rachelm9990
    @rachelm9990 Před 3 lety +2

    Lovely watch. Love your quirky one liners

  • @alanpreston3111
    @alanpreston3111 Před 2 lety

    Wow , what a beautiful piece of work , amazing !!! All those sweaty hours in the gym have not been wasted .. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻😎

  • @tiberiuvincze8288
    @tiberiuvincze8288 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video, history + watch repair lessons a nice treat - thank you!

  • @coopoylozenge5964
    @coopoylozenge5964 Před rokem

    Thanks for another excellent post. I find it interesting that, regardless of maker and complications, the base movements are very similar - the hallmark of a classic engineering solution.

  • @haraldmiller4894
    @haraldmiller4894 Před rokem

    For me fascinating is how you remember which part needs to be assembled at which position. ;-)

  • @NW-lj6oo
    @NW-lj6oo Před 2 lety

    Wonderful craftsmanship and an extremely good narrative as well.

  • @jimmy2boats
    @jimmy2boats Před rokem

    I am about to service and replace a missing running seconds hand on a Bucherer reference with the same caliber. This is a great refresher preview. Thank you

  • @PrometheusZandski
    @PrometheusZandski Před rokem

    Sir, your expertise was impressive and your knowledge quite educational.

  • @michaelbedford8017
    @michaelbedford8017 Před rokem

    Being the proud owner of a Seiko cal. 6139 'pogue', I was interested to hear your potted summary of the first automatic chronograph.
    Of course we were all way-out in this.
    Lemania made a beautiful prototype automatic chrono, fully cased and ready to go, in 1947.
    I have pictures of the dial and calibre on an old phone which I downloaded off the net a few years back. The movement is engraved in french stating the accomplishment.
    Apparantly Lemania proudly presented Omega with the fruits of their endeavours, rather like a cat dragging home a particularly stubborn mouse, and getting about the same reaction.
    So; 22 years later....

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před rokem

      Interesting, do you have any links?

    • @michaelbedford8017
      @michaelbedford8017 Před rokem

      @@VintageWatchServices
      I just googled this minute
      'Lemania prototype automatic watch'
      and then pressed on images and it was about the fifth pic down, you can't miss it.
      As for links etc. get real! 😂
      I'm 65y.o. and analogue bred in the bone; a hopeless case I'm afraid.

  • @Yesrmbee1443
    @Yesrmbee1443 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for bringing out such a beautiful video on such a complicated movement.

  • @alanmckinnon6791
    @alanmckinnon6791 Před 3 lety +1

    13:58 that is quite a parts count! Nice watch this one, good job once again

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Indeed! Tempting to just put a big blob of superglue on the table and throw all of those pieces in there, but maybe next time 😉

  • @haping1
    @haping1 Před 2 lety

    What an amazing video. Thanks! The movement is so complicated, I hope one day I have the skills to work on one.

  • @benfoust7424
    @benfoust7424 Před 2 lety

    First time seeing a Lemania, sweet watch. I'll need to look into them. Thank you for sharing!!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Ben! Yes, Lemania mostly provided movements to Omega and Tissot, but you do find Lemania branded watches every now and then. Very cool to have in your collection :)

  • @joeskeptical4762
    @joeskeptical4762 Před 3 lety +1

    *_Beautiful job, I bet this watch saw a lot of action and will again._*

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Thanks Joe! It's certainly been through a lot and we'll put it through some more :)

  • @ericashmusic8889
    @ericashmusic8889 Před 2 lety

    The seconds hand seems to float around rather nicely on this watch rather than ticking- Nice .!

  • @bangy55
    @bangy55 Před 3 lety

    The hour counter bone connects to the mainspring bone. I remembered this time. I'm getting there, professor! Thanks for the entertaining info.

  • @troynasello2085
    @troynasello2085 Před 3 lety +6

    "cleaner than a cats conscience".I love that. I'm gonna use it. Thanks!

    • @joeskeptical4762
      @joeskeptical4762 Před 3 lety +3

      *Assuming a cat even has a conscience, which can be doubtful. Watch one kill & eat a bird, it's just like listening to a politician.*

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Any time!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +3

      That's exactly the point, I don't think cats have much of a conscience, so it's certainly clean 😂 To me, cats are the creatures who have most profoundly figured out the mysteries of life. I wish to be re-born as a cat when I die.

    • @troynasello2085
      @troynasello2085 Před 3 lety +1

      @@VintageWatchServices . I'm with you on that, my friend. To be reincarnated as a kitty. I love my cats & they are so awesome to watch. Between wrist watches & cats, I'm happy & satisfied... so far.

    • @bangy55
      @bangy55 Před 3 lety +2

      @@VintageWatchServices One word. Hairball.

  • @toursouthwestpa1014
    @toursouthwestpa1014 Před 2 lety

    I love Lemania, Oris, and other not so well known names . Looking forward to seeing a Turler dial come across the bench.

  • @44musher
    @44musher Před rokem

    Excellent work and commentary, thank you Sir. I am currently employed fabricating pistons for Harley Davidson.....

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před rokem +1

      Wow, very cool! And slightly larger parts :)

    • @44musher
      @44musher Před rokem

      @@VintageWatchServices haha yes, no affiliation with the hell's angels however. Thank you for your videos you are a man of high integrity.

  • @ant.9940
    @ant.9940 Před 3 lety +2

    It was interesting to see the timegrapher before and after maintenance, to see the differences afterwards. But it's just my opinion. Thanks for the video.👍

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi A.M., thanks for watching and for your comment! I indeed try to show both, as they are critical to the work I've done. I'll keep showing them :)

    • @ant.9940
      @ant.9940 Před 3 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices thx.

  • @graemeyetts3465
    @graemeyetts3465 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for posting this . A very good piece!

  • @eshwarrao7358
    @eshwarrao7358 Před měsícem

    What a beautiful watch, day and night after the work you had done on it, shame that the crystals are hard to find for it. its so manifico watch. Hope it can find a good gold bracelet to match the bling it possess. Thanks Stian! for all the good commentary and work that you do for us.
    Am glad that you have already figured out your next career line in the Car Industry - Looking forward to a Rolex/Omega in Cars -:)

  • @pablofierros3312
    @pablofierros3312 Před 3 lety

    So beautiful work. Thanks so much.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Thank Pablo, thanks so much for watching and that's very nice to hear :) It's a grateful job working on watches, with instant gratification when you get things right.

  • @ron-w633
    @ron-w633 Před 2 lety

    Good video !! and thanks as it helped me regulate my 5100.

  • @zephyrold2478
    @zephyrold2478 Před 3 lety

    Interesting to see the small Omega sign in the center of the crystal, Nice job well done. A good old handmade thumbs up. Be safe.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! It's a shame I cannot find a new crystal, but I'll certainly keep trying. I'll probably post a small update to the video once I have it.

    • @zephyrold2478
      @zephyrold2478 Před 3 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices Being an Omega chrystal, does that not make it easier to find a replacement.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      I thought so also, but I haven't been able to find an Omega reference that completely fits. I'm sure I'll find something though, it might just take a few weeks.

  • @Trixtrem1974
    @Trixtrem1974 Před 3 lety

    Love it, thanks for sharing this awesome watch.!!!

  • @jaimehumbertoribeirosaldan6955

    Today we have GPS, but still in my youth, we might learn, how much time, we spend to arrive one place, by walking. The people of the sea, at some time used a big clock, to know the time that left to end the light of the day, or the secret to reach an island faraway from the continent. We must teach young people that a simple watch, is a long history of evolution, in order to survive or for the welth of a nation! Great show enjoied it, thanks!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for your thoughts, Jaime! I think what you're on to is exactly the reason mechanical watches will always be around. The wonders of the tiny machines inside them and the impact they have had on the world is just too cool to be forgotten.

  • @cthlhu
    @cthlhu Před 3 lety

    Beautiful watch and another great video!

  • @creed6.549
    @creed6.549 Před 3 lety +1

    very relaxing someone else cleaning a watch

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +2

      Always nice watching someone else do the work, I agree! 😂

    • @creed6.549
      @creed6.549 Před 3 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices ive said i have not had the pleasure to do one but looked fun anyway ,well impressed with the resto of the plastic crystal

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      It's great fun and something one can pick up at any age, really. It can be very relaxing as well, getting very much into a zen mode.
      Thanks for the comment on the crystal, if it hadn't been cracked it would have been perfectly fine for re-use. As it is now I'll try to find a new crystal that fits but it's exceedingly difficult. So in the meantime I'll use the old one :)

  • @AL-pb1lb
    @AL-pb1lb Před 2 lety +1

    You are a true master craftsman. Really enjoy your info accurate or not none the less like hearing them. How do you remember where each screw and part goes. Is there a technique when disassembling it?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks so much! With some experience you will recognize the function of most of the parts, but some of the screws can still be confusing, especially for chronographs. I typically put the chronograph screws back in place so I don't have to guess which one fits later :)

  • @supergamerbros.1718
    @supergamerbros.1718 Před 3 lety

    Another fantastic video. Thank you.

  • @LordCaledonFraszer
    @LordCaledonFraszer Před 3 lety

    Fascinating how the advent of technology transforms the perception of commonplace. Years ago, people rode horses and carried mechanical pocket watches. Today, the internal combustion engine and battery-driven Quartz movements have elevated previously common horses and mechanical watches into the rarefied atmosphere of luxury status.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Hi Caledon, indeed, that's a good observation :) It's probably also related to the rarity of things; once something becomes rare it also becomes more valuable. A 5 cent football card can all of a sudden be worth thousands once there aren't many of it...

  • @bmw128racer
    @bmw128racer Před 3 lety

    That Elma cleaning machine is super cool. :)

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for watching and for your comment! Yes, it's a very nice machine but expensive as *#%&... It's automatic, which is very convenient. I started out with a simpler machine but awarded myself this one a couple of years back 😁

  • @fabidelossantos4270
    @fabidelossantos4270 Před 3 lety

    Amazing transformation👍🏻

  • @geoffquickfall8424
    @geoffquickfall8424 Před 3 lety

    Just finished restoring two Wakmann Regate. This video would really have helped if it came out three months ago ;-) Oh well, thanks any way!!!! Great video as usual! Thanks.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Hi Geoff, sorry about that 😂 Very cool to hear you're working on those watches, great watches and a very complicated movement.

  • @kostaskritsilas2681
    @kostaskritsilas2681 Před 3 lety +4

    Whenever you feel that you have the time in your videos, could you comment on the vertical clutch/horizontal clutch, column wheel/sliding lever design choices, and the reasons/pros/cons of each? I find your comments about the history of, in this case, LeMania, interesting and add quite a bit to your videos.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Kostas, thanks for watching! That's a good suggestion, I'll certainly pick up on that in the next chronograph video. 💪

  • @neutronalchemist3241
    @neutronalchemist3241 Před 6 měsíci

    The Lemania 1340 had not been made to face the quartz crisis. It had been made to face the "three first automatic chronograph movements" The Buren Caliber 11, Zenith El Primero and Seiko 6139, that came out in 1969. Lemania had been left out of the race, and had to react quickly. In a little over one year (a very brief time) they turned the Lemania 1873 into an automatic movement, but they had to compromise to do that. In industrial design, you need time to make things simpler.
    Having a little more time, they made the 5100, that came out in 1975. Same functions and apt for mass production.

  • @colonialclive
    @colonialclive Před 3 lety +2

    For the pusher holes interdental brushes would be perfect

  • @robertjordan7323
    @robertjordan7323 Před 2 lety

    "Cleaner than a cat's conscious ". That's a new one I'll have to remember.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      Cats' consciences are pretty clean, I believe :) I actually came up with that one myself 😂

  • @anderspedersen7488
    @anderspedersen7488 Před 2 lety

    “Cleaner than a cat’s conscience”. That would be really, really clean.

  • @hectorcortez3888
    @hectorcortez3888 Před 2 lety

    U are bad ass, am new to watch collecting, I never seen such a Is complicated system.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Hector! 😂 It's a complicated watch for sure, but I hope there'll be even more complicated ones coming up 😉

    • @hectorcortez3888
      @hectorcortez3888 Před 2 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices thanks 4 the reply

  • @mojofilter6339
    @mojofilter6339 Před rokem

    Of all your feats of dexterity I admire most, I can't decide between the tilting of screws into their holes, or the turning over of cap jewels with a single flick of the tweezers!
    Oh, and by the way, I'm going to switch to black finger cots. My wife finds the pink ones somehow disturbing...

  • @freesince-yc1be
    @freesince-yc1be Před rokem +1

    Excellent content, amazing movement. One thing, the chronograph hour counter did not reset to 0. I went back and tried to see how it works, I see the series of levers off the reset pusher and a cam on the backside of the chronograph hour gear. Is that not the reset? The first time testing the reset at 44 min I believe I saw the hour counter move but it definately did not, right at the end of the video. Anyway, good day sir.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před rokem +1

      You're right, my hand was at a somewhat awkward angle due to the camera so I didn't press the pusher fully in... The pusher works as it should if it is pushed all the way in :)

    • @freesince-yc1be
      @freesince-yc1be Před rokem +1

      Well thanks for the reply.

  • @frohnnielsen
    @frohnnielsen Před rokem

    Lovely watch!

  • @DaveMGmovies
    @DaveMGmovies Před 3 lety

    Watching your excellent videos is always an education as well as entertaining. I'm sure though that the pesky cats who visit my garden have no conscience.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Thanks so much, Dave! That's the thing about cats, are they actually evil or just devoid of conscience? Over the centuries opinions have varied 🤔

  • @ianbrade7754
    @ianbrade7754 Před rokem

    I've come back to this edition of your series just to marvel at the complexity of this movement and hear again, the history/ chronology of the watch industry at that time.
    Do you think you could (or have you already?) feature the tuning-fork watches and their place in the evolution of the industry, at some point?
    Many thanks for your very informative and humorous guide to the watchmaking galaxy.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před rokem +1

      Hello Ian, thanks for watching my videos! I'm not really into electric or quartz watches, I'm afraid :) There are so many mechanical watches still to cover so I'll be busy with that!

    • @ianbrade7754
      @ianbrade7754 Před rokem

      @@VintageWatchServices Thank you for your reply Stian, and for responding to my previous email about the Longines and Zenith watches I own.
      In my ignorance, I've always thought of the tuning fork design as a kind of hybrid between mechanical and quartz. To be honest I'm not sure how they work, hence my interest in seeing you take one apart, simply to illustrate and explain what they're about.

  • @proslipbrakelubrication1922
    @proslipbrakelubrication1922 Před 4 měsíci

    I am rebuilding one of these and am struggling to find a
    video showing how the second short chrono button is fitted..

  • @peterhearn3297
    @peterhearn3297 Před rokem

    Love seeing a professional at work, love your sense of humour. How did they make the screws and the thread where they go? Very intricate (machinery) Greetings from Victoria Australia 🇦🇺

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před rokem +1

      Thanks a lot, Peter! Tiny screws are made with special rollers on a piece of steel on a lathe, and the screw holes in the plate are made with taps. Small taps :)

  • @carlosoruna7174
    @carlosoruna7174 Před rokem

    Now imagine doing s speedmaster 125. It's nearly the same but more complex. Pushers have seals for the water proof.

  • @larrycannon166
    @larrycannon166 Před rokem

    I picked up a used Breguet Type XX 3820 off Ebay for a song. It was in great condition, except it didn't quite reset to zero. I got itchy and sold it, and I've kicked myself ever since. Wish I'd known more about Lemania. I thought that it was a "lesser" brand. Darn!
    Hey, would you explain the functions on your Time Grapher and what they mean to the mechanical operation of a watch?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před rokem

      Hello Larry, Lemania was indeed not a lesser brand :) I explain the timegrapher functions in a few different videos, I cannot recall which ones so you'll have to watch all of them 😂

  • @VWatchie
    @VWatchie Před 6 měsíci

    It would seem to me that you apply a bit more Moebius 9415 grease to the pallet stones than many other watchmakers on YT. It would be interesting to know if there is a particular reason for that. Thanks!

  • @SpaceSpice
    @SpaceSpice Před 3 lety +2

    The most difficult caliber I have seen so far lol

  • @dinnerwithfranklin2451

    Excellent, time to pull up a chair and learn something. Thank you good sir.

  • @JimCars
    @JimCars Před rokem

    Hello do you know about Honk kong movements? I have a watch Phantom brand with EB 8501.76 movement, Im starting to work with watches, but fist to I see its that these movement have rivets not screws!!! Please try to do some video about these movements, regards from Mexico

  • @samnova450
    @samnova450 Před 5 měsíci

    Very good job, another chronograph done. Is anything special used for plastic parts?

  • @avianfish8732
    @avianfish8732 Před 2 lety

    Hi you can remove deeper scratches by burnishing which does not remove metal.

  • @brianhawkins7278
    @brianhawkins7278 Před 3 lety +2

    INTERESTING.

  • @alanpreston3111
    @alanpreston3111 Před rokem

    It amazes me how a piece of sandpaper and a blob of toothpaste can bring a damaged crystal back to life 🤔👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻

  • @Karol235
    @Karol235 Před 3 lety

    very interesting lesson and of course another great job. maybe some speedmaster in the future? 861/321 I would love to see how you make that movments, of course, with great like always substantive a comment

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Hi Karol, thanks for your loyal viewership! I'll service an 861 shortly, but unfortunately not inside a moonwatch. Still the same movement though :)

  • @enriquehidalgo630
    @enriquehidalgo630 Před rokem

    Is this movement similar to the Lemania 1350 used by Ebel and Breguet in the Type XX?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před rokem

      It's not too different, the 1350 was based on the 1340. Early XX's had the Valjoux 225, which you will soon see 😉

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 Před 2 lety +1

    Speaking of lubricants getting sticky and gelled. Are all your modern lubricants synthetic, or is it still a mix of old and new???

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety +1

      They're all synthetic now. The last natural oil I used was D5 and I replaced it with HP1300 a few years back.

    • @ditzydoo4378
      @ditzydoo4378 Před 2 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices thank you ^~^

    • @ditzydoo4378
      @ditzydoo4378 Před 2 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices I was thinking about this cracked crystal. There are polymer (plastic) repair adhesives on the market if thin enough could be used to flood the crack and fill the void made by it. This will make the crack disappear and then allow for the regular reconditioning of the crystal you showed.

  • @richardwigley4942
    @richardwigley4942 Před 2 lety

    Thanks love your channel nice comentry thanks ⌚

  • @tissapathiratna7761
    @tissapathiratna7761 Před 6 měsíci

    Why there is No dry luricants .I guess that will reduce oil drag. With Taflon.?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 6 měsíci

      Do you mean as a general lubricant? Teflon has a lot of downsides in production but is used for mainsprings for instance, and Rolex famously coats their purple reverser wheels in teflon. But applying teflon or other dry lubricants in after-sales service is pretty much impossible and the lubrication we use has been designed specifically for uses in watches.

  • @scdevon
    @scdevon Před 3 lety

    Great work on this watch. Lovely patina on the case. Thanks for not polishing it to "make it look perfect".

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for watching and for your comment! Fully agree that cases should be treated gently as far as possible 👍

  • @SubTroppo
    @SubTroppo Před 3 lety

    Hell's Watchmakers: & there was that Hunter S Thompson book: Fear And Loathing In Switzerland.

  • @Matt-uj6jm
    @Matt-uj6jm Před 2 lety

    There are always the sad people out there who for no good reason will give a thumbs down. 🤫🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      Yep, can't please everyone... always someone who hates the world and everyone in it

  • @westend3019
    @westend3019 Před 3 lety +1

    Great work, as usual. Between column wheel chronographs and cam are there any superlatives or advantages from one to the other? Is one more prone to wear?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +2

      Hello westend, column wheel/pillar wheel chronographs operate a bit smoother since less force is needed to operate it, but the column wheels and the interacting parts are more difficult to manufacture and need finer tolerances. I don't believe there are any real differences in terms of wear, but most chronographs are cam operated for the reason that they are easier and cheaper to manufacture.

    • @westend3019
      @westend3019 Před 3 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices Thank you!

  • @bojidarvasilev8854
    @bojidarvasilev8854 Před 3 lety

    the watch is gorgeous but did not have a good owner . Nice job 👍👍

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Thanks Bojidar! It certainly hasn't been kept as well as it deserved. It's a huge watch, so it's likely to receive more than its fair share of bumping into things, but still...

  • @mynock250
    @mynock250 Před 3 lety

    Did I see an Omega proof mark on the case? sorry you answered the question in the video.

  • @Bob.martens
    @Bob.martens Před 3 lety +1

    What is the cause of the increase in amplitude when automatic works are installed?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Bob, thanks for watching and for your great question! As you might know, the mainspring in an automatic watch slips inside the barrel when the mainspring becomes too tense. That's why we grease the barrel and it is essentially a safety feature. When winding the mainspring with the crown, the mainspring is wound very fast and hence the force against the barrel wall changes accordingly quickly. This makes the mainspring slip more easily. The automatic works winds the watch very slowly, which lets the mainspring tense up more gently and slip a bit later. It will not make a massive difference in the amplitude, but 10-20 degrees can be expected.
      I'm not sure it's a good analogy, but if you've ever tried to pull a table cloth off a decked table, the table cloth will slip more easily the faster you pull.

    • @2Death9
      @2Death9 Před 3 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices I was about to ask this very question. So, are you basically saying that the auto will wind the mainspring a little more tightly thus imparting more force to the fork giving the ballance a little more impulse?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      Hi Ashley, yes, that's exactly right :)

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      And just to add to it: the mainspring will also slip a bit less violently when it's wound gentler by the automatic works.

  • @rap31264
    @rap31264 Před 3 lety

    Grampa...tell me 'bout the good 'ol days...

  • @cliffmolz8719
    @cliffmolz8719 Před 2 lety

    Really great job with the watch! I have been watching (pun intended) almost all of your videos and you're very impressive; your jokes while working included! Just a heads-up that I have noticed you keep saying the word "fiddly" in your videos. I think you are meaning "finicky." I look forward to seeing more videos. I would especially like to see you work on a Petek Philippe. Cheers

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Cliff! I would also like to see myself working on a Patek 😉 I'll probably get my hands on one one day, but not quite yet. And I believe fiddly and finicky are pretty much synonyms?

    • @cliffmolz8719
      @cliffmolz8719 Před 2 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices My apologies, I was not familiar with the word and apparently, it's a British term that does mean the same thing. You are indeed a great Master Watchmaker. Cheers

  • @jaimerivera2545
    @jaimerivera2545 Před 3 lety

    You’re amazing!!!!
    What grit sand paper you use to sand the crystal and what else did wise after that to polish? Thank you

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks Jaime! ☺️ Depending on how deep the scratches are I might start out with 280 grit or 400 grit and then 800, 1200, 1600 and 2000. I use Polywatch for the last step but you can even use toothpaste!

  • @kazsmith8422
    @kazsmith8422 Před 3 lety

    I love your sense of humour, what cleaning solution do you youse L&R

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks Kaz! I use Bontech from Boley. I don't think there's a huge difference between the various brands tbh, but I'll try another brand next time I replenish to find out :)

  • @jaimerivera2545
    @jaimerivera2545 Před 3 lety

    I just bought a Croton Chronograph with the Lemania 1340, a really great peace!!
    How much do you think I would spend if I decided to service it? (I open the case back and needs a service)
    Thank you, Keep up the great work!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +2

      Hello Jaime, thanks for your comment and congrats with your watch! That sounds like a fantastic piece indeed :)
      Servicing it will probably be quite expensive, I'm afraid. If you can find a vintage specialist in the local area that would probably be ideal, but I think you would spend at least $400 or similar.

  • @rcdogmanduh4440
    @rcdogmanduh4440 Před 2 lety

    Reminds me of Carmel I put on ice cream!

  • @carlrees5574
    @carlrees5574 Před 3 lety

    Please tell me where you got your curved brass tweezers from.. Mine are SS but to blunt for the delicate work so i use them as a screwdriver steady when near the ballance

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Carl, my curved brass tweezers are from Regine Horology and I buy them through Beco-technic.com. You can also find them on eBay but they cost a lot there.. if you're based in the US, you might find them somewhere there also.

  • @cmuchmore
    @cmuchmore Před 2 lety

    Didn't Sea-Gull have a Chronograph in 1963?
    Doesn't the plastic part disqualify the movement as a "luxury" mvmt?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      It's a strange story, they didn't actually make their chronograph in 1963, but a couple of years later. And no, a couple of plastic parts do not disqualify the movement as luxury, but a lot of people would frown a bit upon it indeed.

  • @johnr1350
    @johnr1350 Před 3 lety

    Did you start a garden and grow tomatoes with all of that soil you removed from the case?

  • @ant.9940
    @ant.9940 Před 3 lety

    Another excellent video. A question. Yesterday unintentionally (I forgot when I shouldn't get it right after 9 pm) I changed the day in the quick setting when it was 10 pm. I never realized that before, but now the day changes at 11:50 pm. I don't know if he was already doing this or if he lost control. Everything is working well and the change always occurs at 11:50 pm. The move is a 4r36. Is it normal or did I change something because I messed up the calendar when I shouldn't have? Can you test one of your 4r36 movements manually and tell me what time your movement changes? Is everything okay with mine? I would appreciate your feedback.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks, A.M! In reality, basically all watches with a date function made after the 1960's have safety built on so that the mechanism does not get damaged in the scenario you describe. So you should be safe.
      For the time of the change over, it's actually the other way around. The mechanism changes date when the date wheel flips one of the teeth on the date disc over. As a watchmaker you forward the mechanism until the date flips, and then you place the hour hand to point at midnight then. This is thus a matter of accuracy by the watchmaker. It is generally acceptable if the data changes between 1145pm and 0015am, although I personally think one should strive for between 1155pm and 0005am.
      So in short, all is likely good with your watch 😉

    • @ant.9940
      @ant.9940 Před 3 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices Uff. Thanks for the answer. It is logical, because I imagine how I do, many do not know and others like me forgot when it came to getting it right. If I didn't have that security, it was just watches for repair or trash. It made me more relieved. Thank you very much.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety

      My pleasure and without these features there would be a lot of broken watches 😁

  • @jwoodyr1
    @jwoodyr1 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for sharing another great video! Do you use Fixodrop on the shock jewels too?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +2

      Hello Woody, no I don't. I know some watchmakers do, but in my view it simply isn't necessary, and the reason is something called capillary action. Due to capillary action, the oil will stay put on the flat, clean surface of the cap stone. When there are sharp edges on a surface however, the oil will creep over the edge to the other side. Thus for the pallet jewels, which is a tiny square-ish surface with four sharp edges, you need fixodrop/epilame to stop the oil from creeping over any of the edges. For the cap stones, which are a bit larger, round surfaces, the oil will not creep unless you make such a big blob that the oil is very close to the edge. And that is way too much oil for a cap stone anyway.
      Note two other points of importance for the cap stones: there are no sharp edges on the end of the balance wheel pivot, so the oil will also not creep down onto the arbor, and there is no sliding motion of the pivot. On the pallet jewels you have both sliding motion of the escape wheel teeth and the escape wheel teeth have sharp edges that will make the oil creep.
      Lastly, let me also say that epilaming the cap stones can only have positive effects, so there is no harm in doing so. If you want to use epilame for the shock settings, make sure you only use it for the cap stones, however, and not on the chatons, as these may be subject to rust if they do not dry properly.

    • @jwoodyr1
      @jwoodyr1 Před 3 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices Thank you very much for the thorough reply! I really appreciate the help!!!

  • @TheFirefishe
    @TheFirefishe Před 8 měsíci

    As to the Hell’s Angels story, I also cannot confirm whether or not you are a green amphibian…
    *Poof* 🐸🐸
    Errr….Or Can I? 😁

  • @griffn14
    @griffn14 Před 3 lety

    Since you mentioned 7750, I wonder if a watch movement could be made that has a semi instantaneous jumping hands like the chrono minute hand on a 7750?
    Meaning that the second, minute and hour hand do that 6° accelerating "jump" - could there be a time be setting problem on it, would there be enough torque to power it when all three hands need to move at once...?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Griffn, what you mention would for sure be possible but it begs the question why? What would be the actual benefit of it?
      Note that the minute hand in your scenario would operate like most chronographs already do, while the hour wheel could be flipped by a finger on the minute wheel, so those two would not be too difficult to make, but having the seconds hand jump every second is a bit more complicated.

    • @griffn14
      @griffn14 Před 3 lety

      @@VintageWatchServices No benefit other than interesting to look at the hands at work - that semi instantaneous jump looks really good to me, I know that kind of hand movement is considered a horological imperfection by some though.
      Now at least I know it could be a possible lets say "complication" haha. 👍

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Oh yeah, most things are possible, they just take a bit more effort 😁

  • @markgiles8527
    @markgiles8527 Před rokem

    Are these movements design by one person, or several?

  • @mywatchjourneypenang8370

    do you have a version for eta c01.211 please ?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      Hi there, thanks for watching and for your question! There will in fact be a video of the c01.211 in not too long :)

  • @hiilppp
    @hiilppp Před 2 lety

    45:32 What about the hour counter? Didn't reset.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      Hello, thanks for watching and for your sharp eyes! You're right in that the hour counter didn't reset in the video and I didn't catch that until long after uploading it. It's a result of trying to use the reset button on the wrist while taking a video; the button needs to be fully depressed and I didn't do that. It works as it should so I didn't think about checking that in the video before it was too late...
      As you probably know, CZcams videos cannot be edited for small updates like this, so I'd have to re-upload an entirely new file for replacing that little clip. Given that it already had quite a few views when I was made aware of this by another viewer, I decided to leave it :)

  • @benerabilis
    @benerabilis Před 3 lety

    Rosamunde Pilcher film for man!

  • @thomaswatch3184
    @thomaswatch3184 Před 3 lety

    Congratulations great job and video. But is glass omega?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Hello Thomas, thanks for watching and for your comment! Yes, both the case and the crystal are Omega branded. Omega, Tissot and Lemania merged into an organization called SSIH and worked very tightly together.

  • @wallysmith8339
    @wallysmith8339 Před 2 lety

    What do you with the watches that you repair

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      I eventually sell them, sometimes after wearing them for a while myself :)

  • @moehoward01
    @moehoward01 Před 2 lety

    The Nekkid Watchmaker calls that DNA "arm cheese".

  • @vitobirillo4511
    @vitobirillo4511 Před 3 lety

    TOP

  • @Patriot-rising
    @Patriot-rising Před 2 lety

    I'll take it!
    And that is not gunk! It's patina! 😝

  • @slim2429
    @slim2429 Před 3 lety

    Ut oh looks like the chronograph hour counter didn't reset at the end

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Slim, thanks for watching and for your comment! You're quite right, and that shows the danger of trying to operate the watch while on camera... the hour counter does reset as it should, but one needs to press the push button firmly and I didn't really do that due to the camera setup. Sloppy not to catch that before publishing though 🤔

  • @shawnhulke7385
    @shawnhulke7385 Před 2 lety

    I think I heard that hells angels story before.😉

  • @Fishbird
    @Fishbird Před 2 lety

    How does dirt get into a sealed watch????

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  Před 2 lety

      I think your question kind of answers itself :) It doesn't, which means that the watch isn't sealed, or at least that there are openings for dirt and debris to enter. And that's the case with watches of all sorts, but especially old watches which have received a lot of use and abuse, making them less tight than when new.