Full Restoration Needed On This Universal Genève Watch!
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- čas přidán 24. 03. 2022
- Marshall dives into another vintage watch restoration, this time it's a full restore on a beautiful Universal Genève from probably the 1940s or maybe 1950s. This one has a lovely dial, and a solid movement, but the case is a disaster with worn plating, it's in dire need of a restoration!
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The watchmaker skills you have are impressive, but we should not forget the camerawork put into this, it is an art form. well done!
And the commentary. A+ all around!
@@Noold agreed the commentary is A1
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Yes! I can edit and have some equipment. Marshall does an incredible job at everything he does.
Marshall, the green goo on the spring bars is the result of leather reacting with the brass pins. Leaving brass-cased cartridges in leather bullet loops, or brass-frame knives in leather sheaths has the same effect. To prevent this we use nickel-plated brass in the bullet loops.
This sort of knowlegde is soooo specfic, and truly why I love this Channel!
But wasn't those bars coated as well.. it didn't look just brass
I have an old Buck knife from my father that had this same problem. Real brass on the handle, and real leather holster = green discoloring
Vegetable tanned leather should not react that much as the modern Chemically tanned leather
Chrome tanned leather does this.
Honestly I cannot tell you how much pleasure it gives me to hear a person from North America actually pronounce Genève properly. THANK YOU!! It's such a simple pronunciation and so many watch youtubers overthink it and butcher it completely. Literally only two syllables. Bless you.
I thoroughly enjoy your narration as well as you voice.I own a busy mercedes benz restoration shop car shop In Baltimore for the last 44 years , and I am under a lot of pressure every day . I love to restore just about anything , from a watch to a watering can to a Mercedes 560 sl and your voice relaxes me sometimes so much I fall asleep. I know this sounds funny but your whole demeanor is wonderful. Your voice is so calming and your videos are so informative , I play them every afternoon after work as well as, at night when I go to bed, I learn alot and I get a good nights rest at the same time . Thanks for everything. Your voice has love it it , thats the only way I am able to desribe it.. I love this hobby . I love to restore things. YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!
Thanks
Brian
Hey Marshall, just wanted to say I repaired my first watch the other day! I got it for my 16th birthday and It stopped running one day so I put it in storage. After watching your videos and buying a simple beginner’s watchmaking set I decided it would be my first watch repair. I got the movement out of the case and Lo and behold, a case screw was stopping he pallet fork from operating! I got it back where it belonged and the watch is happily ticking away.
👏 and so your journey begins
" A man with a watch is always sure of the time. A man with many watches is never sure of what time it is". Love your productions, so relaxing. Thank you..
It's always nice to see that someone who does something, and is good at it makes mistakes also. Appreciate you showing that. It's a good reminder that we're all fallible.
Very fallible here lol
He his very good at this. His voice is perfect for it. It’s so relaxing to unwind with one of his videos. You cross threaded the screw at 34:50 that I cringed for but hey, it’s still a hobby. Mistakes are there to learn from… Keep it up Marshall, wonderful channel!!!
@@silentracer911 Agreed
The way you admitted that you made a mistake with the spring was amazing how humble you are! It shows your real character! Huge fan of your work.
Marshall, every one of your videos is just as informative as the first. As a long time viewer, you make the repetitive interesting. Every once in a while we get a little more information about a tool or a process that makes it so interesting. Also you have a voice for media. Love watching this stuff. My father just gifted me all his tools. I may operate on my own watch!
I'm glad you showed the mistake and talked about patience and learning from it. That is how we learn thanks.
Absolutely incredible outcome. Thank you for the amazing entertainment. I hope one day I can do this to my watches.
then you look at watch oil and and realize it’s more expensive than platinum.
You, here ! Hi Elliot i actually seen all your videos ! Viva el gameboy 😅
You can do this thing!
every video somehow manages to walk that fine line between 'for beginners' and 'for experts'. fascinating. no idea how you do it, and yet you do it every time. such good work!
My dad did watch repair and building from home when I was a kid. I'm 73 now, and throughly enjoyed this video!
I had some great watch projects for school that he helped me with! The workings were always fascinating to me.
His work with watches helped my brother and me be physically fit, too. We sometimes forgot he was working on one, go running in to where he was, hollering, startle him!!! That's when we found out how fast we could keep running!! 😂🏃♀️🏃🤣
Wow! I never thought such a pitted watch could come out looking so exceptional. The golden color of the dial with that beautifully replated case came out looking so classy. Subtle understated elegance. Lovely work, Marshall!
This is one of the best videos I think Marshall has made.
I enjoy all the little sounds of the watch coming apart, and from assembly, that you include in your videos!
Marshall you cant keep us this long without a video man.
I was also looking for a new one. Great video
Beyond a hobby. This is a masterclass. Well done. Very informative
Thank you for these fantastic videos. My grandfather was a clockmaker, and I have dabbled with the hobby for the last several years. After watching many of your videos, I have confirmed that I will stick with clocks and not even consider working on watches. Clocks try my patience, steady handedness, and vision enough. :)
Keep up the awesome work!
For 2 years I've been watching these on a laptop or even phone, and tonight I tried it on a big TV. Now I may have to go back and rewatch your whole catalog because wow.
The strap and the dial look beautiful together, great choice! They look like they are meant for each other
Agree...nice combo as the band compliments the patina of the dial. Although I think the crown is a bit too large and blocky for that case.
I'm watching this with a whole new appreciation having just taken apart and put back together my first watch project. You have been the inspiration I needed to get into watchmaking.
The good news from my adventure, I took my watch apart, cleaned it and put it together and it runs.
The bad news, I'm not the first to try. I'm missing a cap jewel a few screws (one I lost, those things are little rockets!) and one of the automatic works wheels. I'm currently looking out for a donor movement.
If you read all this, thank you for encouraging others to try!
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I am a mechanical engineer and usually i am not very patient. But when it comes to precision stuff like that I am very calm and collected. I could totally see myself doing this (not as good as you), or at least give it a try.
I am watching your videos for years and it stays in the back of my head. Someday i will take the leap and buy all the tools and get going. Someday...
WOW! As soon as you replaced the balance, The increase in amplitude was massive!! 👍😎
I found this channel a few months ago and immediately recognized your voice.
I started listening to you years ago when I was really into MTG. Your Limited set reviews were legendary.
I love your content. Keep up the great work!
He does MTG stuff too?? Where can I find it?
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@@sirmaxxx yeah! There's an mtg mat on his bench there in the video.
He does the Limited Resources podcast (it also has a CZcams channel). I learned about Wristwatch revival through Limited Resources because Marshall has mentioned it a few times there.
@@SegFaultMatt Thank you
What a change "just" cleaning and giving the watch a new coat. Really cool watch. Yes I use cool a lot as it was a well used word for great when I was a tween and teen.
Wow, beautiful result!
Thanks for explaining keyless works... I never knew.
That moment when the balance wheel is put in place and it works - me: "Aw. Your little heart is beating again". I am now the proud owner of a ladies skeleton watch my son bought me for Mother's Day (I'm in the UK) yesterday. I can enjoy seeing its little heart beating and I can see the pallet fork as well. I have an abnormally thin wrist and it is quite a big watch but it looks really good (it's an automatic as well) and keeps really good time. My old Lorus quartz has now been retired after 20 years of good service. Great video again Marshall. Thank you for uploading.
Really enjoyed this video! The plating process was so fascinating! Thanks Marshall, another fantastic restoration.
Another amazing restoration! And, I can't say it enough, thank you for the narration! I very much enjoy knowing hearing you explain what you are doing, your thoughts and insight, as well as your humor! Outstanding!
After subscribing and watching a number of your video’s, CZcams’s algorithms predictably bombarded me with watch Restoration/Repair content, and I have perused a number of different ones. This is Kudos to you for being an excellent videographer and content creator, but more importantly having the perfect blend of narration, explaining the whys and what for’s of what your doing without losing us non-watch people in the weeds. Very much appreciative of the genuine humility and likability you exude on your videos, and your skill sets are far superior to any hobbyist. Also thank you for avoiding the common mistake a lot of content creators make with annoying music, your narrations are perfect by themselves. Well done! Looking forward to more great videos.
I stumbled upon you channel when I was stuck in a hotel in France for 2 months. The quality of the videos are amazing and I love the narration. You sound like you could be telling us about a 67 Chevy in a Barrett Jackson auction
Just ordered my first automatic watch. You’re channel got me intrigued in buying one. The watch I picked up is a orient bambino gen2 ver3 in a white dial. Cant wait for it. Thanks for peaking my interest. 😀
Orient Bambino is a great watch! Enjoy it! My first watch was a Seiko, but my second was an Orient (I think they even used to be the same company).
Please beware! Collecting mechanical watches is highly addictive and there is no current effective treatment available....
Wonderful transformation! I also like the looks of that movement. Not fancy or embellished, but so crisply machined. Really nice.
What a beautiful watch. Great job giving it a new lease on life!
You relax me with your gentleness. You aren’t a hobbyist any more. You are a professional.
I've watched dozens of your thoughtful restorations, and this one is a favorite. Great dialog throughout--I'm always learning something as you work through the process--and in the end, I feel comforted by your achievement. Oh, and a lust for the finished product. Great channel and pure quality of craft. Thank you.
Yet another outstanding rebuilding loved seeing the plating process
fun to listen to your commentary, which is rare, keep up the work and the light-hearted commentary
Marshall, I love that you film the video and then do a voiceover. It adds so much depth to this type of filmmaking. Way to go. Love your style!!!
This one turned out really nice indeed, and it runs amazingly well too with that a few seconds a day deviation and strong amplitude. Time well spent on this.
Hey Marshall, fun bit of trivia for you: I don’t know specifically how it’s done in the watch industry, but often items that are ‘chrome plated’ are actually first plated with a thick layer of nickel, followed by a very thin layer of chrome. Supposedly, the chrome layer is so thin that it doesn’t contribute to the color at all, rather it’s just the nickel that gives the piece it’s silvery color. If this watch was plated in that way, then the chrome layer might have prevented the nickel solvent from stripping the nickel off.
Bob, the only time that things are directly chromed is hard chrome for things like hydraulic rams or plastic injection screws. The chrome in decorative plating is thin partly because it’s quite stressed and if it builds up too thick can peel. The trouble with chrome is that it is so corrosion resistant that any imperfection or blemish corrodes like crazy the substrate hence the pitting that Marshall comments on. The jewellery industry usually nickel plates under gold to stop the gold diffusing into the brass underneath. Nickel silver is a posh name for a white brass. To strip chrome is easy, a 5- 10 g/l sodium hydroxide solution with the chrome anodic, takes a few seconds and you can see the change easily as the chrome disappears and the more yellow nickel shows through.
I will never do what your doing, BUT, I find this utterly fascinating to see. It helps my understanding of how these work. Thanks for your videos you do!!
Hey Marshall; I will never do this as a hobby. I guess I just love older watches and I love them fixed and running well. I watch a lot of you tube but your channel is the best? I just love watching you do this. You’re a good man my friend.
Muchas gracias por restaurar relojes que están más al alcance del común de la gente, después de todo son los que guardan más historias de vida!
Been watching for a while. Love that you refreshed on what some of the "ususal" tools are and really enjoyed the plating process. Finally tipped me over to join your patreon.
Stunning as always. I watch your work to de stress it works every time.
I used to love just listening to your drafting videos when going to sleep. I think your watch videos are replacing it. So relaxing
Nice job, and a pretty watch:) kind of surprised that you didn't address the flaking on the underneath of the dial (can be seen around 4:40). Seems like something that potentially can separate and go into the watch movement?
yeah that’s not good. the underside of the dial is important as is the varnished side. any amount of debris will find its way to a lubricated jewel… and that was a lot of rust.
Glad I’m not the only one
Really cool to see this new process that you’ve learned with the plating. I was saying to myself before you got there that I thought you’d end up dipping the case in some sort of acid to strip it, and I was kinda right. LoL. Good stuff, Sir.
your commentary is wholesome. it shows your enthusiasm for learning. teaching and appreciation for the watch itself. you are modest in your approach which makes you relatable. you don't need to hear this from me. but keep up the good work. I recently started selling vintage Seiko 5 and citizen 8200s and will need to learn some basics soon
This is crazy good. That nickel plated procedure was so cool
I love this channel. I have never worked on a watch. It would be good to have a list of names of the tools you use. I might like to try my hands at watch maintenance. This is very soothing and interesting to watch you work. Thank you!
Love your content... would you ever consider detailing an alternate movement cleaning process for those of us that don't have watch-part cleaning machines, but might have ultrasonic cleaners.
I think there are older videos before the got the machine
I should have read the comments, I just asked the same thing :-). I didn't see anything other than the 'unveiling' video of when he got his cleaning machine, but admittedly, I could have missed details in other videos.
To answer your question Marshall, when I see all those parts I think "not that bad!". I've never disassembled/reassembled a watch, but I have never had fear about taking things apart ever since I was a young lad. Putting things back together, and figuring out how they work is a joy!
This man easily has gotten me interested in Watch servicing
Nickel might have been used in early days but it was abandoned for use in jewellery as a lot of people suffer from an allergic reaction to that metal. As it was cheap it's use would have made sense on earrings and alike but for watches, which are usually more expensive they most likely did prefer other plating that was more durable?
My son is allergic to nickel. His first watch was nickel plated, and it left a nasty "burn" on his skin
The EU has a law forbidding the use of nickel on anything that’s touches the skin. White bronze or silver are good alternatives, and you can still nickel plate a base coat for durability.
@@MrMadvillan I have an aunt that is also highly allergic to nickel. She could never wear watches until they came up with a watch which had a case and strap/band made almost entirely of titanium
My "smart" watch lasted about 2 years and this thing is still working after ~65 years... The only thing smart about smart appliances is the manufacturer can force you into buying a new one every few years.
Yup. I bought my first mechanical because I was sick of buying batteries.
love the fact that you are not replacing every part of that watch. i got a watch from my father, that got the watch from his father. when i went to get it serviced (it did not run because my father fell down a stair with that watch) they wanted to replace almost everything, but i said keep the dial, idc if it will look "brandnew" because i don't want to look it any different.
I'm very good at my profession but it's amazing to me how you are able to remember how to put this back together..
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I am glad you encourage other hobbyists. I just like to watch at this point. I am learning the jargon and it's just so fun to watch. Thank you for always being so descriptive.
I have become an avid fan and am in envy of your talent.Your narration makes the video worthwhile.
I like how the narriation was recorded after the fact but has the feeling of discovery of a live commentary.
When I'm hyper-focused, I become patient. I lose patience, is when I'm doing something pointless. This was a perfect video.
Your comment about being patient , I am of the firm belief that there is a very big difference between patience and love ! In my understanding (at least the way i see it) , patience is spending a lot of time on something you are not particularly fond of . Where as love makes it really easy to get completely lost in time without even noticing it ! I am a knife maker and i absolutely love making miniature knives . People often tell me i must have huge patience , but i am not a patient person AT ALL , but i do have a lot of love for what it do
Thank you Marshall for sharing your hobby with us , it is something i would love to get into at some stage
That band compliments the watch so nicely
I'm a simple man. I see a Wristwatch Revival video, I click like.
Beside the main spring click. I really like the first time you open an old watch and how Beautiful the Mechanism is even after all those years. Really nice restoration. Thanks for sharing 👍.
Wow! I would be proud to wear that little beauty!!! Nice job, Marshall!!!🥰
Nice restoration again Marshall! I have to admit the old patina on the dial looks in its own way so warm and luxurious that it hearkens back to a time when it would have been worn in smoke filled bars and dens. Really looks like the dial was coated with cigar smoke. And no flying parts this time! You seem to enjoy embarrassing yourself with your little mistakes and we appreciate the honesty. Carry on!
I wandered onto this channel last month. I have no idea why it was in my algorithm but today I rec'd my first watch - Seiko 5 Sports Pepsi. Thank you very much Wristwatch Revival.
I get excited with you every time the movement works, I love it
A new life jumps up in Wrist Watch every day!
I think the fact that you have to be so gently and patient is exactly what makes watchmaking so magnificent. I love doing little models, hewlery and so on and if you just listen to a podcast or some good music, its like meditation ^^
This one is definitely a keeper. Die dail is just perfect.
This is so relaxing. The camera work is excellent. I sure wouldn't
mind buying one of these watches.
what a gem this channel is
That watch turned out beautifully. Great job.
That strap complements the dial / face so well.
Beautiful result. I am glad you decided to replace the case as the poor condition distracted from the beauty of this watch.
Normally I am all for restoring or replacing the dial... but, this is GORGEOUS. Another great video!!!
This watch is very gorgeous, yet, very simple.
I love your ‘satisfaction giggle’ when you hear the click of the mainspring and the dancing of the balance. Great video as always! Many thanks.
Great restore and strap pick...really sets off the dial.
i love your enthusiasm even u can hear it in your voice, specially after putting the thing back together and finding out its accurate hah
Thank you for your videos! They inspired me to move from grandfather and kitchen clocks to pocket and wrist watches. I’m on my way!👍
In electronics we know that electrons move from the - to the +. That’s why we make the watch + when electroplating. Same reason that welders make their work + and their rods - when welding upside down. It might go against what people think is normal, but it works that way.
Also, a power supply that produces 1.25, up to 37 volts at 1.5 amps maximum can easily be made using an LM-317 integrated circuit and a hand full of small parts. You can even modify your power supply to use that regulator I.C. They cost about $1.50.
I have just finished putting together a 1956 Bulova. I got it off of eBay, not running, and it was the most difficult thing I’ve ever attempted. Didn’t lose any springs, had a couple close calls, but when that balance wheel kicked off, it was so very much worth it.
I want to thank you for your videos. I never would have attempted to get into watchmaking if not for them.
Thank you!
This makes my covid quarantine a tad more tolerable- enjoyed ur TGN interview too.
I would love to own that watch. I have a new Relic that is supposed to look like that, but nothing compares to real patina and real wear and tear. Magic!
I'm addicted to watching your videos. Beautifully done.
I literally gasped when the barrel arbor went flying LOL! Using a tan/deer colored band was a great choice...plays to the tone of the patina on the dial.
Interesting to see the plating, will check that out :). And I agree, if you by the Bergeon mainspring winder set your stuck for life haha.
I would go crazy trying to put one of these back together!
Thank you for your ever relaxing videos. Takes me out of the everyday crazyness.
Hi Marshall, I've been watching several of your videos, I find them awesome and interesting to look at.
I use to repair watches and clocks myself, but that was long time ago, no internet back then, and you rellied on the local professional watch maker/jeweler shop to get your parts.
But since Quarts came into town all these good shops have disappeared, and those who take on these mechanical watches send them back to the factory or some old jeweler who does this still as a hobby.
Good to see that the net made a revival and intrest among jonger people back popular.
These mechanical masterpieces deserve it.
Personally don't have the proper tools anymore, and having the correct tools, is the job already half done.
I still restore mechanical toys, like steam engines, and I love all thing mechanical, that's why I also enjoy your videos.
There is one thing though I have to say, you sad in this video that chroming is not possible at home, but I have to say it is.
But you always have to nickel plate first, it serves as a primer, on that you can chrome.
Your chrome is a second plating that goes on as a top layer.
What I don't know is the availability of the chroming product in the US.
I live in the EU, and environmental rules are starting to make things difficult…
keep up the good work…
This was outstanding. I’ve enjoyed a lot…
I love your videos! thanks to you im falling in love with vintage watches!
Wow that watch strap matches the dial. Beautiful old watch.
love the narration. informative and easy to understand for non-watchmakers.