A True Mystery Behind the History of This IWC Pocket Watch
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- čas přidán 16. 03. 2023
- Marshall tackles a small pocket watch from the 1920s with an interesting and mysterious history behind it! This watch was manufactured by IWC, but it was one of only 3 examples and it's survived in the same family since it was originally purchased by the current owners great grandfather while on a tour of Switzerland. This is a lovely watch and was a pleasure to work on, enjoy!
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I hope you enjoy the video, this was a special one! It's not often you get a watch that has been in the same family for this long, especially with such an interesting backstory :) Just a reminder, while I do like to respond to comments on my videos, I will never solicit anything from you in the comments here, so if someone asks you for anything via the comments it's not me. - Marshall
Thank you for the video. Will you please do a service video on your Dornblüth & Sohn?
Is it possible for you to refurbish an old wrist watch I got from my grand dad? Thanks!
Hello Marshall I have 1904 Waltham 21 jewel pocket watch. It belonged to my grandfather and I would like to have it replated and fixed. I have a new crystal and a new second for it. I'm not confident enough to attempt the plating. I got a phone number last I commented did know it was you?
I watch the Baumgartner Restoration channel and he restores paintings professionally. He uses various types of solvents to remove the varnish that is put on paintings to protect them from the environment. The problem is that Ultraviolet light causes it to go yellow. Acetone is one of many solvents that can be used (watered down). So it's a known thing.
Marshall, I have four pocket watches that I would love to get repaired, on video if possible. Would you consider repairing one of them?
The Bob Ross of the watch world, thanks for everything you do Marshall.
Marshall has the same kind of soothing calm voice.
Fortunately, not so many happy accidents!
@@kimspence-jones4765 LOL!
have you ever watched bob ross? Marshall’s personality is nothing like bob ross.
Seriously. So smooth. So soothing.
The story behind these watches is so incredible that it feels that after some time the watches do not tell the time to you but instead remind you of the times in the past that you have spent with it like a partner in every place and situation good or bad. I seriously commend your spirit to bring life and dig out the forgotten past of these watches
Well said 👍🏻
@@jz9189 what?😂 it made no sense grammatically
This is pretty much how I've always felt about it. I'm relatively fresh in my watchmaking journey, but the smiles I get from people getting their watches back working and fresh to go always gives a special sense of victory and satisfaction to see them smile. Like seeing an old friend again.
i have a bunch of these cases, but not gold! maybe silver!
@@flavio_souzahow much would you take for them?
Another great video! Just a FYI - never close the cover of a pocket watch case by squeezing the lid shut. Always depress the crown first, then push the case closed, and then release the crown to engage the latch. While the snap with the former approach can be satisfying, it puts enormous stress on the edge of the cover (which is a soft metal) against the steel edge of the latch. After doing this many times, the lid will no longer stay closed. The problem is even worse with solid gold cases because the gold lid is very soft.
I should have looked for this comment before commenting the same thing myself.
When I subscribed to your channel, I was surprised by the number of similar channels that youtube keeps recommending. I watch them, but they lack what is on yours. You actually seem surprised when you find a fault, damage, or interesting feature in your projects, and you can hear it in your voice. And you keep your explanations simple enough that non technical people can understand what you are saying. Plus the background history of the time piece is always a plus. Another excellent video.
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words
My brother got a pocket watch about 30 years ago for Christmas. He had always wanted a pocket watch as a kid. So my dad got him a "jeweler's watch," which has a crystal on both sides so the jeweler can show off the workings without opening it. It's really neat.
I was taught by an older gentleman that when you close these types of watches it is best to depress the stem and close the lid rather than snapping it closed. This minimized the wear of the closing mechanism. I love watching you work. Thank you for the inspiration.
That doesn't not make sense.
I started watching your videos back in I think last November and last weekend I just got paid to service a Waltham Pocket Watch at a Jewelry store as part as a new part time job learning under a professional watchmaker. Thanks for the initial inspiration, it's been one of the most satisfying hobbies I've ever taken on and I'm now making money with it.
I absolutely love hearing this! Keep it up!
I never cease to be amazed of how parts of that size and precision could not only have been made that long ago, but sold commercially in volume.
I don’t even know how they’d be made today, let alone back then.
@@tomelifeisjustonebig 🤣 True!
Hey brother, love your vids! Small correction: NEVER snap a pocket watch shut. My grandfather was a professional watchmaker & jeweler, & he always taught me "Button open, button close". The steel tooth that opens & closes the lid can actually break off, but it's also much harder than the gold of the case lid, which wears away quite rapidly to the point where over time it simply won't close no matter what without professional case repair.
I love the fact that for every video you make you repeat what you said so that each video is fresh for anyone watching your videos for the first time. Perfect! Your watch refurbishment videos are a joy to watch and a treasure trove of learning material for future watch restorers! Great work!
I purchased a 1944 Omega pocket watch stamped with UK government mark when used in military service.
That watch still keeps excellent time but needs a wind every 6/7 hours.
It may run longer but I’m too nervous to overwind this lovely piece of machinery.
I’ve tried a few repairs on cheap watches I’ve won on eBay & realised I’ve not got the patience or eyesight to carry on.
So I’ll continue to watch this channel and see how’s it done properly.
I should of known from when I had Airfix models in the 1970’s and couldn’t finish them due to concentration issues😂
Keep up the superb content of these vlogs.
A machinist once told me I have the "Midas Touch" ( my skin oils were acidic) and caused the sheet metal I worked with would leave rusty handprints on it. Great videos Marshall, I (as a mechanic) enjoy your videos. Keep em coming and I'll keep watching.
Propmakers have a less nice name for it, they call it having "piss hands" because some materials (foam?) turn yellow after they've touched it.
Some in the machining world call those who leave rust when handling tools "rusties". I think it's from salt in sweat and not from skin oils.
Thanks for watching, and yeah this might be the first time I've seen a fingerprint actually make a mark on the movement like this.
There aren't many things that make 40 minutes fly by as quickly as your videos do.
Another great video and definitely turned out nice!
I wish there was a way to post a photo. I did a pocket watch that belongs to the owner of the company I work for. It belonged to his grandfather who came to the US from Germany right before the war. It's a beautiful IWC with a movement that looks exactly like that one except that it used to have a harp on the timing pin...missing sadly. Nice Job Marshall.
You should have a segment on what watch you're wearing on days you'd like to show a cool watch off. I feel like it's not your style but I love knowing what other hobbyists are wearing! I absolutely love every one of your videos. Thank you for doing what you do for us!
Marshall. I’m so inspired by your vids that I have ordered a set of tools to begin my exploration of watchmaking.
Thank you for the calm demeanor and your best practices.
Awesome, good luck with your journey!
The beat error lines are actually far apart but look close because the distance now is on the outside and not on the inside. So the movement has a very very high beat error and you should realign the hairspring to adjust for it. The problem with these chinese watch timegraphers is that when the beat error gets very high the lines start moving back together. Hope this helps.
Probably not worth doing given its 100 year old. Chances of fouling the hairspring are not worth it for a watch that won't be worn and used to keep time on a daily basis.
They also default to the 9.9 when it can't pick-up a clear sound to determine the beat error. Other noises in the movement could be causing it to not be able to determine the BE.
@@jaylevine1483 This was my thought process as well.
@Jay Levine nope, hairsprings are pretty resilient
Another great video I love your channel. Do you have an email address Marshall as I would like to discuss my Grandmother's watch. Let me know please, thank you for reading this.
Well, you did it to me Marshall. I have watchmaking tools on the way for my new hobby. Recently bought a 1917 WW1 trench watch which is in good condition and a collector has encouraged me that it will be quite serviceable when ... serviced. probably just needs a new mainspring. Ay yah.
I swore I don't need another hobby!
Hmm, it has now been already quite a while that I discovered this channel and so far I watched each of the videos since and many of those that were made before. So I recognized that the process of disassembly, cleaning, assembling and calibrating is more or less the same every time, sure there is a variance of models, number and type of complications but even those bcome repeatative over time. There is from time to time a yet unencountered variety of damage. However mostly I now know roughly what you will do and even say next. Yet, I still sit fascinated through each of your videos. I find them really fascinating and relaxing to watch and even get a sense of satisfaction when I see a watch becoming "alive" and "healthy" in the end. Thank you for this type of content.
unlike you i did not discover this channel, it found me, and i was like "huh" but i watched it from start to finish, then realised at the end "wow that was 45 mins long, and has just flown by"
hooked since then
Appreciate the feedback, I sometimes worry that the videos might get repetitive but I also like that they have a kind of flow to them.
@@WristwatchRevival The videos are repetitive in a but in a good way. You're sharing with people a realistic knowledge base, sort of giving us a very good heads-up if you will, on the hobby. So in that sense the repetitive nature of the videos is very helpful. Even if there was no audio, just watching how you handle the tiny pieces and what tools you use is educational, couple that with your narration and you're creating a trove if information for us plebs. Thank you sir, my hat's off to you.
That came out beautifully; the new hands are a great match. The owner must be so pleased. How fortunate nothing broke when it was dropped. You do excellent work, sir.
Really love the restorations, but the best parts are the stories behind these awesome watches. Thank you!
How amazing would it be if @IWC were to see this and want to do something for her? Knowing only 3 of these ever existed... and who knows if any still do! What a piece of amazing history and love! Thank you for sharing
WOW that’s a old school cleaning machine , I’m use to the fancy new ones , place the basket in a push a button & it gos through all the cycles . I haven’t see one of those since I was in watch school way back in 1994 . Proof that them machines are reliable still to this day . From the look of it , looks like it was made back in the 60s maybe even the 50s , that’s incredible .
Marshall I have said it before but worth repeating, you and your videos are the absolute antidote to stress. Thank you sir for sharing your phenomenal skill.
150+ years old... IWC... One of three... That watch is staggeringly valuable. We are talking hundreds of thousands of dollars... It's absolutely beautiful.
Another awesome restoration! Thanks for taking us along.
The surprise in your voice when that plate dropped into place on the first try. Too funny.
When I have a bad day at work,all I have to do is watch one of your videos it chills me right out. Thank you
Another lovely piece of work. Counter enamelling is done on thin section metal, as metal and enamel contract differently. The metal does not curl when heated, but as the enamelled piece cooled the stresses of different cooling contractions can either force the metal to bend, or contribute to the enamel popping off. Enamelling both sides applies the same contraction forces to both side of the metal, which balances out and prevents curving and enamel detachment
With the original mainspring, I'd want to correctly set the Geneva stop works on the barrel. Hopefully a replacement intermediate setting wheel can be found as more broken teeth are otherwise on the way.
Marshall, because of you I have taken a serious interest in watchmaking. Even though I have not yet taken apart an entire movement, I have been ordering my own parts for my own custom watches that I love showing off. Thank you!
Awesome! Good luck with it, it's a great hobby :)
I been watching all your videos every time you post videos and I enjoy your videos and I loved when you take care when you fixed
Lovely watch and restoration. THANK YOU for removing that fingerprint!!! I repair and restore torsion clocks and it’s sad to see fingerprints from a careless clockmaker of 50 or more years ago. I’m sure the owner is quite pleased with the final achievement. Thanks for sharing this!!
The banter is informative as well as educational....really enjoyable! Good stuff!
Watching you peel the old adhesive and crystal remnants reminds me of the joy of taking the valve cover off an engine and being able to peel most of the gangly gasket off as one piece😀
Man... I love watches and could "watch" and listen to you all day. You make everything easy to understand with a clear voice and humor too. The "Sad Face" part was a hoot. Thanks so much!
I can't believe it's taken me this long to realize why I love this channel after months of being subscribed. This is fucking Marshall Sutcliffe from Limited Resources and I didn't even realize it until I just randomly checked your Twitter and saw this channel in the bio yesterday. I've been listening to you and LSV talk nonsense for like a decade now lol. How I didn't connect LR with this channel is beyond me.
Thanks for both Marshall.
Lol that's too good, and yeah it's me :) Thanks for being one of the few that likes both of the things I am into!
LR is how I got here, Marshall mentioned it once like 2-3 years ago. I have always joked that if wasn’t for magic I would own my grail watch
Another great watch with a fascinating story.
Marshall. Sorry for watching this a little bit late. But amazing history and amazing work as always. Thank you. Big hugs from Berlin to the Seattle.
Your resto video are the best on entire CZcams. Because you work like a serious and genuine watchmaker. This is my opinion, of course, but i wanted to express here. Thank you for posting.
I have insomnia and I notice that your videos help me to relax my mind before I go to bed and sleep faster.
There are very few channels on CZcams dedicated to watch restoration work and among them I find your videos to be the best. The thing I am most impressed about is your commentary, which despite being mostly informative and relevant to your process of restoration is engaging and strangely hypnotizing.
Also, your videos have inspired me to explore this hobby and I have been trying my hand at a few movements to great satisfaction. Thank You Marshall. Love from Kashmir!
What a great story and beautiful watch. Your work and commentary is why I check every day to see what you are up to. Thank you so much for sharing your hobby with us. Best wishes always.
Give you props for taking on a massive repair on an ultra rare piece!
Welcome back!!
The amount of care and effort you put into the service and preservation of the watches work on is truly amazing. It is because of your videos that I have gotten into appreciating watches more and just recently bought the tools to replace the crystal on my father's watch. This is only a suggestion and not a critique, if there was a small measuring tape or something in the cameras field of view it would kind of help to remind just how small some of these movements you're working on are. It's easy to forget just how small these things are when you're watching it on a screen where it's all magnified
What do you mean? Like on close shots? Or really tight angles?
His fingers are in almost every shot. Isn’t that enough reference?
@@jonwatson5587 it should be, but with the finger cots my brain doesn't register as fingers.
Yeah I try on occasion to show the scale of these things but it can be tricky under such high magnification
This is a stunning little pocket watch and the history with it is fascinating, thanks for sharing all of this. A great video to watch.
Items like this watch are bridges that connect different generations of the same family. Owning such a watch helps you feel like part of a family with a long history.
This is so great. I’m getting into watches myself I got a few from eBay one being my favorite a Raketa Blue jeans from the ussr
love your videos. To the point where I tried changing a battery on a Bulova I own. Well the tiny screw flew off and trying to find a new one and replacing it was not that easy ! Makes me respect your fine work ! Not as easy as he makes it look folks !
Hello Marshall. Just watched the video. I always look forward to new material on your channel. I spent the first 20+ years of my watchmaking journey working almost exclusively on American pocket watches. Please reach out to me if you ever need hands, mainsprings, balance staffs, etc . I noticed a couple of thing while watching the video. Go back and watch the video and notice how many times you inadvertently touch the movement with the bare tip of your ring finger - right hand :-). Maybe a cot on that finger also? Secondly, when working with a "hunting style" cased watch such as that IWC, You should depress the crown, close the cover, and then release the crown. This is CRITICAL if working with an 14k or 18k solid gold case. When the cover is "snapped" closed the "catch" quickly wears a notch in the cover which will eventually cause the cover not to stay closed. It's very costly to have a jeweler repair that damage (ask me how I know). Nice trick using the "autosol" to remove the fingerprint stain. I'll mentally file that away also ;-). The glue used to install the glass crystals is "G&S" crystal cement. It's sort of like the old model cement we used to use back in the '60's. Dries clear and remains somewhat flexible. I'll file the acetone trick away also. Great watch and great video. Regards, Mike
Thank you, I may have to take you up on that!
Also the keyless works gear can likely be found.
This was so much fun. Your commentary is perfect and infectious! I'm learning a lot.
Got a kick watching some of your videos made early on in your CZcams venture and how your knowledge and skills have changed. Especially your hand-eye coordination as I assume doing very detail work while looking at a monitor (magnifying your work) has to be extremely hard. I look forward to each and every new adventure you share with us.
Thank you for all of your hard work behind the scenes. I am never bored watching your video's.
Last year I spent some time machining parts for IWC. Great to see the history and the other parts that go into such beautiful piceses
That is so good to know! Someone who does that kind of painstaking work.
They have kept up their standards through the years, something that not all companies can claim!
What a great history behind this watch. This is priceless! Thanks for sharing Marshall. 🇨🇦
Great to see you back and in such splendid form. Thanks a lot Marshall.
Always love playing your videos while working. Love the passion you have!
The quality of this channel is all in the stories and explanations of what you're seeing/doing. :) Love listening to what you're seeing in the watch.
At 35:10 …… its strangely satisfying to watch you. 😎Thanks again for the well done work, and video work.
Incredible work on a literally priceless piece of history.
So many unique challenges in this one! Excellent work as always.
Marshall, I absolutely love the care and detail that you take with these pieces . I’ve always been a tinkerer and enjoy fixing things . Watching you do these projects makes it seem like a breeze ! Says a lot about your skill level . Thank you for taking us along on your journey’s! Keep up the great work !
Very cool story!!!! You got to just love an old pocket watch, what got me started in watch restoration and repair!!!!
Hey Marshall! You just got the coolest Shoutout by ADAM Savage on his video about Digital Microscopes
I found your channel about two months ago and I really enjoy your content. I have looked at other watch channels but I enjoy yours the most so far. One thing that I have noticed is that you have very steady hands where many others have very shaky hands. Thank you for the entertaining content. I have a couple of very interesting watches that you might enjoy looking at a wrist watch and a pocket watch.
Thank you for another great video mate. I enjoyed every second. Please keep it coming.
The history of this watch was very interesting. To touch something that there were only three of must have been a joy for you. Great job!
You are the Bob Ross of watches. Great work as always.
Happy little trees -> angry little clouds.
Thank you for your great video.
I used to work at IWC. Made my apprentice ship mid 50th and worked there for a few years!
Keep up the great work.
I loved seeing the gauge tool, and all the other tools. Amazing work!
IWC is an amazing watchmaker. love to see this one restored.
i think you have the best watchmaking channel. on youtube. it feels like i'm right next to you when you work. i think you have the best technical skills and your repair technique is beyond compare. i was just wondering why you never move the faster/slower mechanism of the watches you repair.
by the way, i've been paralyzed for 30 years june 18th and watching you work satisfies all my desires to do the things i used to do, but can't now, vicariously.
You've done fantastic job with it. Very pleasing results and a beautiful pocket watch.
Excellent as always! Keep it up Marshall.
Awesome as Always...Wow Stunning...Pleasure to watch.
Love your videos, Marshall! Thank you!
That was one very great watch. The story is so good to know. Especially with pictures.
Out of all my subscribed channels this one is still, after years, my number one favourite. Way to go Marshall! 👍🏻😀🇬🇧
Thank you :)
I hope this watch finds its way back to your desk and IWC helps you properly restore the watch. If there are only three, it really is something special. And it should work like the watch royalty it is.
I found it unusual to see a pocket watch with it's crown on the side of the of the dial like a wristwatch instead of up like all pocket watches I've ever seen before this. It's fascinating.
Good show as always, thanks Marshal!
Still a plaisure watching you ...! I'm astonished with all those tiny screw ( sometime flying ..? ) small items .... I like your videos !!! I would ike watching you repairing an Omega Speedmaster as I own one I bought one in 73 in Ariba , Spitzer ant Furman . And regularily went in Geneva for maintenance !!! Many thanks !!!!
@@Wristwatch_Revlval Thanks....!!!
Another wonderful restoration!
So relaxing and enjoyable, as always. Thank you
Having discovered Wristwatch Revival by chance, I admit to going down the rabbit hole _repeatedly_! I admire your ability and patience to do what you do because I have absolutely none with this kind of detail work. After pursuing the videos, I checked 3 pocket watches we have. We have a Waltham (1920’s based on serial #), and Elgin from earlier I think. But the kicker is a Gruen that based on the serial number appears to be 1870. Best part, they all 3 run. We have little or no history but know they have been in my husband’s family the whole time. I’m sure they all need to be cleaned / serviced. Just wish I had somebody I trusted to take these on. The Waltham’s face has some minor damage to to dial on either side of the seconds dial. All the watches have case ware because they were used. Thank you for this channel. We are now going to try and figure out more of the history. And search for a qualified watchmaker.
Great history to that watch! I bought an antique pocket watch around a month ago and am discovering a LOT of history behind it. Whether the seller didn't bother investing in the time and effort of research or just didn't want to list the details, I've no idea. But the gyst of it is, it turns out the watch was owned by a watch maker himself in the 1840s, who happened to be a master engraver as well. His father was a watchmaker in the early 1800s. The fusee movement was manufactured by his company and I believe was new-old-stock when his son placed it in a new silver watch case at the time of his engraving. Hallmarks jive with the personalized engraving , with his name and date behind the keyhole cover. The protective dust cover over the movement, solid silver, has a very fine, ornate and large letter of His last name in cursive. One of the things I found while researching was the odd absence of any maintenance marks and codes from other watchmakers within the case, save for one very small capital letter corresponding to the same watchmaker/engraver's last name. It occurred to myself that one wouldn't need to take their watch elsewhere for routine maintenance or service if the owner was a watchmaker themself. Everything is very well preserved, the dial is flawless, the owner even engraved his coat of arms on the reverse of the case along with his initials below it, which can only be well seen with magnification. It only takes a quarter turn with the key to start running, and that amount lasts a good 4 to 5 hours. Apparently it came from a long line of Scottish watchmakers.
It really pays to do the research in things like this, which is often half the fun!
I love your videos, your voice is delightful, the history is wonderful and the watches amazing.
Thank you for your content!
Beautiful little pocket watch brought back to life , another triumph Marshall , thanks 🙏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😎
wow gorgeous watch , brilliant work Marshal , your a star .
This comment is long overdue - your work and channel are just great. Very informative and entertaining. I have watched many of your videos and have become a real fan. I will continue to watch all of your vids and become a Patreon supporter since no one should work for free!!! Thanks so much for providing this informative channel Sir.
Daughter needs a bit of a tune up! Throwing watch in air!! Great video as always!!
Beautiful watch & great job
Adam Savage did a shoutout of you in his latest video !!!!
Amazing work
Thank you.
Another great video, Marshall, thank you!
Love watching these videos, so satisfying for some reason
When it's 10:30 am, you overslept, are about to wake up and wristwatch revival uploads...
I love IWC's. I believe that this one is a caliber 64, 12 ligne. Providing it is actually 12 lignes, that is. I don't know whether or not you have looked into it since you did this video, but those polished parts on the barrel, the stopworks, should be set up with tension, rather than just set on top. That said, for a watch that won't be worn or run much, it's probably know big deal. Bob Tascione has/had a nice video tutorial here on youtube that explains this procedure really well. Thanks for another great video. Again, that's a great watch, deserving of such fine care as you provided. Cheers.