The ideal driving position - setting the seat, steering wheel and mirrors

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  • čas přidán 17. 05. 2020
  • Getting the correct driving position is essential for good car control and will ensure you have a good view of your surroundings. In this video, I explain how you can achieve your perfect driving position and the common mistakes people make.
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Komentáře • 587

  • @FerretsForever94
    @FerretsForever94 Před 3 lety +476

    Honestly, thanks. I have anxiety and ADHD, so I'm ALWAYS second guessing what I know and learn, having something I can fall back onto and check is genuinely very helpful.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  Před 3 lety +37

      I'm happy to hear I'm helping!

    • @julialittlefield86
      @julialittlefield86 Před 2 lety +4

      Me and my entire 12 Hour Dr. today being short and not really sitting in my car and not knowing what the fuck is wrong

    • @CastIronGinger
      @CastIronGinger Před rokem +4

      me too, thanks for the insight. I hope you conquer your fears and become the best version of yourself!

    • @jasminegikandi8366
      @jasminegikandi8366 Před rokem +3

      You've 100% described what I feel while driving..plus driving on Kenyan roads makes it worse since we have the craziest drivers. I dread driving and most of the time prefer to take a bus to work.

    • @RT22-pb2pp
      @RT22-pb2pp Před 10 měsíci

      really you trust a video over your own thoughts, jeez you need help

  • @renatocosta811
    @renatocosta811 Před 10 měsíci +40

    Fits perfectly rear-facing in our truck, which has a slightly smaller back seats. czcams.com/users/postUgkx6_FKRYB2ClSPRyjcd8HptiCS3EiQoNX4 Feels as comfy and plush as our Graco Contender carseat

  • @HarunOKUDUCU
    @HarunOKUDUCU Před 4 lety +489

    Really the best driving teacher, I have watched almost your all videos and they are very helpful. No one explains it this way. Thank you so much.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  Před 4 lety +36

      Thank you.

    • @natesamadhi33
      @natesamadhi33 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, definitely the best teacher. He might be the only person who has a playlist that actually goes in order of how you're supposed to learn. AND goes in real depth.

  • @PASSATCL
    @PASSATCL Před 4 měsíci +4

    I have my licence for almost 10 years now and I'm not even from the UK. But this channel is full of good advice for us foreigners as well. Turns out that I usually have my seat too far back and too much reclined. Spent about 20 minutes finding the perfect position as described in the video and I think it should be all right now. You do get a more in control feeling with this driving position.

  • @slyfer5321
    @slyfer5321 Před 8 měsíci +28

    Mate, you are a GEM for us student drivers who don't get this type of education from our current instructors. Thank you for all that you do.

  • @geebee6737
    @geebee6737 Před rokem +14

    I've been driving over 45 years and learnt in a car with column change and a bench seat , seriously comfy armchair motoring and found modern cars a little uncomfortable.
    Serviced every year by a 3 foot 6 mechanic who always alters everything he can in my car I normally struggle to regain some sense of normality.
    Your tutorial has taught an old dog new tricks , thank you 👍

  • @nonodlamini
    @nonodlamini Před 4 lety +110

    I've actually once searched for this topic lol nice tips

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  Před 4 lety +3

      Thank you

    • @biglou1186
      @biglou1186 Před 3 lety +1

      Looking forward to driving with the new adjustments. Hopefully it will help with body aches and fatigue. Thank you

    • @angrysocialjusticewarrior
      @angrysocialjusticewarrior Před 3 lety

      me too. These Mzansi so called "roads" will give you serious back injuries if you are not sitting properly in that Polo vivo/Tazz

  • @hackboy89
    @hackboy89 Před 3 lety +13

    This is how you explain the seating position in a car. Perfect.

  • @nanaaba1373
    @nanaaba1373 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Just to let you know I passed my test today 17.04.24,Time 11:11. I ve followed for months now you are doing an amazing job. God bless

  • @Keithllzj94
    @Keithllzj94 Před 3 lety +23

    Coming from a teacher, you're a really really good teacher. Kudos!

  • @quinnobi42
    @quinnobi42 Před 2 lety +84

    I love how much detail you go into for how to adjust everything. Here in the US, my driving instructor pretty much just said to adjust the seat until I'm comfortable. Particularly helpful for me as a tall person with a shorter torso was that I shouldn't just put the seat to the minimum height. Also, the bit about half sky, half land for the side mirrors was really helpful because they didn't even mention adjusting them up and down.

    • @lubakrayets6989
      @lubakrayets6989 Před rokem +9

      Same, my instructors only advised for me to be comfortable. No actual information provided. If we crash and die at least I'll be comfortable I guess.

    • @shoyrushoyru
      @shoyrushoyru Před rokem +5

      yeah its pretty stupid, "be comfortable" to a person who doesnt know what they should even be able to see or feel in a car literally doesnt mean anything.

  • @FlashX25Media
    @FlashX25Media Před 3 měsíci +3

    FINALLY in the passed but still watching crowd! Your content has been so helpful and I still find myself watching occasionally to keep it fresh!

  • @victoriagrayson5082
    @victoriagrayson5082 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I LOVE how he says what he means, how he means it. That's really cool. Make no mistake, it really is. He's able to convey his thoughts and feelings with his words and body language very well. If someone like that is who's teaching you something, BE THANKFUL, and absolutely don't take it for granted. That is a teacher to be treasured. Thank you so much, sir.

  • @aakash4351
    @aakash4351 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Thank you brother for your videos. I live in India and 99.99% people know nothing about driving even the driving instructor. Your videos helped me a lot. After i got my first car and sat on it, I immediately felt confident. I can reverse park the car in between lines and this is coming from a person who never drove the car.
    Thanks man.

  • @MyKyle7
    @MyKyle7 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I have some many years ago, give up trying to learn to drive... because instructor by me kept repeating lessons on purpose to get more money out of me, so a was not progressing. But am now seeing these lessons put on CZcams, that if a start watching them... it will help me learn plenty to feel I can give it another shot at learning to drive, before spending actual cash out.... that this time round, I will know more than a did before, a lot more. These videos are brilliant, just brilliant !!.

  • @ekaterinagoloviznina8187
    @ekaterinagoloviznina8187 Před 4 lety +168

    The best combination of professional approach and easy communication from such a cute instructor! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @Yuyu-wm5or
    @Yuyu-wm5or Před 3 lety +8

    Honestly this is really helpful, I already know most of these tips and tricks as my dad is helping me learn. But it's cool to see someone *actually* put in effort in teaching people how to drive a car safely, keep it up :D.

  • @aliceyellowdog
    @aliceyellowdog Před 2 lety +41

    Great video! A tip on the wing mirrors that I learned (SAE, Car & Driver "How to adjust your mirrors to avoid blind spots") is to aim them slightly outward to catch your blind spots. You should be able to see an approaching vehicle from behind in your rearview center mirror, then as the vehicle leaves that mirror it should be picked up in the side wing mirror. Finally as the vehicle leaves the wing mirror, you should see it outside your side window.
    There can be a learning curve to this setup for drivers who are used to using their side wing mirrors to see behind them (use center rearview mirror instead). I also still look over shoulder to confirm blind spot is clear.

  • @kirbsmeister2
    @kirbsmeister2 Před 2 lety +44

    My tips if you're driving for long periods: even the slightest twist of your lower back to reach the clutch will cause aches after hours of driving, so move a touch closer if you need to. Also if you can angle the seat it creates less strain if your hips are a touch higher than your knee, I.e. sloping down slightly towards pedals is better than slightly up.
    Finally, make good use of the foot rest next to the clutch to keep your lower back firmly pressed into the seat.

    • @silverjay4455
      @silverjay4455 Před 2 lety +1

      I had an issue this morning where my ankle was in a bit of pain to reach the clutch. Maybe my seat was too high haha

    • @Mitchlovejoy
      @Mitchlovejoy Před 9 měsíci +1

      My car doesn't have the option to tilt the seat pan and i feel like this is why im getting pain in my right hip and lef when im ising the accelerator.

  • @mariamatei7655
    @mariamatei7655 Před 2 lety +2

    Honestly the most helpful video ever especially when explaining the automatic car positioning as some people have been telling me I am too close based on the fact that they all drive manual and have learned to set the difference based off of the clutch. Thank you for your videos

  • @sterlingarcher7101
    @sterlingarcher7101 Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for this man! Really enjoy your manual for beginners guides as I’m in American stationed in England and finally bought a manual transmission car to learn.

  • @sisam1724
    @sisam1724 Před 2 lety +28

    I like how you really break things down for your students. You really don't take anything for granted in your explanations. That's great for a beginner.

  • @ceee8998
    @ceee8998 Před 2 lety +1

    just wanted to say you're a really good teacher and i'll be watching your videos to make sure i'm driving the best way I can in my first car - passed my test a decade ago but didn't drive after getting the license and only recently got back into driving and have now bought a car so am really wanting to drive safely whilst looking after my car!

  • @teammmx
    @teammmx Před 3 lety +10

    I love how perfectly clean your car is on the inside. And you're a great teacher 😌

  • @KerlindaBlah
    @KerlindaBlah Před 2 lety

    This is really useful for a learner driver like me. Have been searching for a video like this. You explain things very well.

  • @emzzz06
    @emzzz06 Před rokem +1

    This is such a helpful video. I'm learning at the moment and the amount of detail you put into this video is extremely helpful. Thank you so much!! Great teacher.

  • @brianmupindu
    @brianmupindu Před 2 lety +2

    This is the best video ever on driving. Everything is on point especially the angles of the camera. It makes everything looks real 👏👍🔥

  • @AnthonyWabo
    @AnthonyWabo Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for the mirror advice, i found myself always a bit unsure if i got them set up optimally. Best and most informative driving channel on youtube.

  • @DenisNolan
    @DenisNolan Před 3 lety +34

    Recently got a new golf and noticed my legs and back were getting pain. This video has been the clearest and concise version I have found that I can easily follow for making seat adjustments. Currently testing out the new adjustments having come from a very comfortable MK5 golf driven daily with no pain ever.

  • @nmestre2
    @nmestre2 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm not even British but I still do watch your lessons AND BOY you're a very good teacher! Thanks a lot for your effort, mate!

    • @melinuxf00l
      @melinuxf00l Před rokem

      I'm American and have been driving going on 21 years, and I can say that I have learned from his videos. Some of it may have been covered when I went to driving school, but it was such a long time ago that it doesn't hurt to have a refresher now and then.

  • @susan3645
    @susan3645 Před rokem

    Thank you so much, Richard! My car is low and my legs are long. Was having a lot of trouble adjusting the seat and steering wheel. Just the help I needed!

  • @illyriandescendant7963
    @illyriandescendant7963 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You're simply a brilliant teacher and of course, it goes without saying, a fantastic driver. Thank you very much!

  • @seagosg6824
    @seagosg6824 Před 2 lety

    The best instructor, always come to your channel when I need help
    Been driving for about 2 weeks and I still need all the help I can get. Got my driver's licence about 2 years ago

  • @tobyntoby
    @tobyntoby Před 3 lety +5

    My instructor didn't even mention anything about the true/ shrunken image issues. Despite learning it from experience myself, I wish it was mentioned in my first driving lesson. Thank you for this little detail about mirrors!

  • @marialochinietrocio9091

    Your videos are by far the best driving lesson…it consicely describe the what, how and why 👏

  • @darthmamba519
    @darthmamba519 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome video. Been watching your lessons for few months. It has helped me drive manual smoothly and now your video helped me drive comfortable lol.

  • @habtomkiflay3247
    @habtomkiflay3247 Před 3 lety +48

    Thank you Richard.
    None of my instructors have told me about these important aspects of driving. It helps a lot. Keep it up😍😍

    • @rosifm6108
      @rosifm6108 Před 3 lety

      Thanks Richard , you are Amazing teachers

  • @benjamineastwood5616
    @benjamineastwood5616 Před 3 měsíci +1

    SAE recommends placing side view mirrors further outward, to where you can’t see the sides of your car. While you don’t have your car as a frame of reference, you significantly reduce your blind spots by closing the gap between the edges of your rear view mirror and side view mirrors. great content as always!

  • @palomavevideos
    @palomavevideos Před 3 lety +1

    Couldn't find better videos. I'm in Colombia and we drive on the other side, but still this has given me fantastic information. Just love it :)

  • @Shithappenswhenu
    @Shithappenswhenu Před 2 lety

    Initially on seeing time stamp I thought this was going to be too long a video , but happily surprised
    Nice informative video with thorough explanations. Probably the best I've seen.

  • @mollielouiseomahony3335
    @mollielouiseomahony3335 Před rokem +1

    My instructor couldn’t tell me how to set the mirrors… I had to figure it out and use the road books. I have two lessons left and this is the only video that actually helped me

  • @tikax2085
    @tikax2085 Před rokem +2

    Really helpful, I didn’t know how to set my side mirror and middle mirror. Your videos are really helpful. Thank you

  • @alishabukhari2000
    @alishabukhari2000 Před 2 lety

    This was very helpful, thank you Richard, you explained it really well. The thing I liked was that you were explaining things one step at a time and trying to make it as simple as possible. :) :) :)

  • @vgopal8701
    @vgopal8701 Před 2 lety +1

    Anticipating something from your videos. But you give even more best information in all videos.... Great mentor. Hats of to you....

  • @fatmatekagac5008
    @fatmatekagac5008 Před 4 lety +4

    My fav channel atm! I have a photographic memory and been struggling to find decent stuff online :/ I normally never bother signing in let alone subscribing to channels but logged in & subscribed to this channel in no time! Thank you, you’re great!

  • @larrycadle2258
    @larrycadle2258 Před rokem +1

    😂😂😂😂😂. I had no idea steering wheels moved in and out sometimes. I knew they moved up and down. I’ve never been able to adjust my wheel up and down in my Nissan, and then I found this video! It moves in and out! Been driving with poor visibility on my dials for two years! Also set a nice proper clutch distance with my leg, and with the arm and steering wheel since it moves in and out. The car is now perfectly set to my needs! Love your videos! Thanks again!

  • @valensmann
    @valensmann Před rokem

    Best instructor out there. I have my license and still learn new things from your videos.

  • @penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022

    OMG , you have no idea what great favor you did for me because of your teaching
    May God bless you and your family

  • @jinsijasi4180
    @jinsijasi4180 Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much from my heart. Your videos clarifies all the queries in my mind

  • @297Lynn
    @297Lynn Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks Richard. I’ve just started my first driving lesson and your video helps me strengthen the memory.

  • @ciaranstevens5089
    @ciaranstevens5089 Před 3 lety +19

    I am someone who, in March 2021 will be able to start taking lessons. My theory test is something I know I will do well on but I have never driven before.
    This video and all of the other ones are SO useful. Thank you.

  • @ashishh1323
    @ashishh1323 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Very helpful video for both new & experienced drivers.

  • @ja7461
    @ja7461 Před 2 lety +2

    This guy has to be the best instructor on youtube!

  • @theofungi6562
    @theofungi6562 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I always get esencial well explained tips from you that make a huge difference to my driving lessons.
    Mate, you save me about 10 mins fraffing per lesson - 10 lessons = 1 hour 40 = about 60 quid!

  • @missmiserablemarny1597
    @missmiserablemarny1597 Před 7 měsíci

    This is a real game changer,i felt soo much more confident when driving after testing this.Not cramped up and slightly uncomfortable as usually,i never found the good spot.But after this vid and the leg hold one i have improved my driving dramatically...thank u,i wish other teachers explained this stuff like u,its super important for newbies!

  • @chenyl0525
    @chenyl0525 Před 3 lety +1

    Amongst the many car seat adjustment videos on YT, I must say that this video is easily the most informative and direct. Good job! 👍

  • @habtomkiflay3247
    @habtomkiflay3247 Před 3 lety +1

    U r legend Rich!
    None of my instructors told me these tips. Thank you

    • @hankscorpio6924
      @hankscorpio6924 Před 3 lety

      Yeah same here, when I bought my car(hatchback) I kept on slipping the gears going from 2nd to 3rd.
      Its only then I realised my seating position was very bad, I kept on adjusting my body and my legs was out of position and not the seat I thought it was me being 6ft.

  • @MominSoliman
    @MominSoliman Před 3 lety +1

    Honestly, the best instructor ever, very precise and to the point and non of the excessive talk that drivers us mad, very good and helpful. Keep it up we love the vids

  • @luna5788
    @luna5788 Před 4 lety +8

    Thank you Richard! Your videos have helped me so much during lockdown, I actually don't feel that anxious about my lessons starting up again which is brilliant!
    So thank you for these easy to grasp and helpful vids! 😊

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  Před 4 lety +1

      You're welcome, I'm happy to hear I've helped you.

  • @Sucker4Pain
    @Sucker4Pain Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you so much. As a beginner manual driver, you’re going over everything. Thank you

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  Před 3 lety

      Thank you for watching, I'm glad the videos are helping you.

  • @missjenny2907
    @missjenny2907 Před 2 lety +1

    I can't thank you enough. I am a short person and was having a terrible time keeping comfortable while driving. So much so I couldn't drive more than 20 minutes without all my muscles in my ribs and back jamming up. I tried every arrangement possible, even adding pillows and wedges. It was aweful. I came across your video and when you were showing how to adjust the steering wheel, bells started going off in my head. I had no idea I could pull the steering wheel closer to me. Bingo. Now I can drive comfortably again. When I had my car detailed they changed up my seats and my steering. Thank you so much. This was becoming debilitating, you saved my life.

  • @mythravarun
    @mythravarun Před 2 lety

    Thanks a mil for your videos. You think of every possible question I have and i am really glad to stumble on your videos.

  • @smj7246
    @smj7246 Před 3 lety +1

    This video should be standard for all driving schools. Thank you very much, from a driver of 10 years.

  • @argonxenon6839
    @argonxenon6839 Před 4 lety +1

    Awsome vid, I have a licence for about an year and I still see it useful, I used other system of adjustements but I think yours is better. Big LIKE from me. :)

  • @MsAfrocomb1
    @MsAfrocomb1 Před měsícem

    😊 Honestly mate, you deserve an award!! You exemplify going above and beyond for your audience 🏅💯

  • @mkproductions5608
    @mkproductions5608 Před rokem

    My driving instructor actually didn't give answer to this question after I asked. I absolutely love your videos

  • @mahneh7121
    @mahneh7121 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thorough and crystal clear explanation. Thank you.

  • @aswinbabukaruvally6459
    @aswinbabukaruvally6459 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you very much for the solid guidance. Will be applying this on my car tomorrow early morning

  • @misshyperalphafemale
    @misshyperalphafemale Před rokem

    I wish you were my instructor ❤️ a so detailed explanation, thanks a lot

  • @honestpearls3040
    @honestpearls3040 Před 2 lety

    Tanks for ur teaching i passed last September, am grateful i used alot of ur videos, n it makes me spend less

  • @Car_Accelerations
    @Car_Accelerations Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks alot brother , i have the same seat FR SC MT , your tips really helped me , even some people say that i sit too close but iam only 1.71 cm tall ...

  • @noordar990
    @noordar990 Před rokem +1

    i love the way u explain driving .. im a learner and it is benefitting me alot

  • @dct124
    @dct124 Před 2 lety +1

    Very good video, most people have no clue how to setup a seat in cars or trucks.

  • @UrzuaNicolas
    @UrzuaNicolas Před měsícem

    this channel is gold, thanks for your videos man!

  • @coppilcus
    @coppilcus Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing content and quality, you don’t have enough subscribers!
    Greetings from Mexico!

  • @QuranStepByStep
    @QuranStepByStep Před rokem

    Thank you very much Richard I have past my test on 21 October 22 I watched allot of you videos they are very helpful thank you again ⭐⭐

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  Před rokem

      That's great news, thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!

  • @TazTheGiant
    @TazTheGiant Před 2 lety

    I'll try and do what you said. I have long legs and a normal body and sometimes if I don't adjust right I have difficulty controlling the brakes with sensibility.
    Thanks for the video

  • @azifahahmed4462
    @azifahahmed4462 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much. Your video really helped me a lot. I got my manual license last week on my first attempt. So happy

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  Před 2 lety

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing!

  • @craig2921
    @craig2921 Před 4 lety +1

    thanks for making this video. It helped me get a better idea of how close I need to be seated with the clutch

  • @edwardlunn6975
    @edwardlunn6975 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! I have a 400 mile trip tomorrow so this will help. Thank you!

  • @FranciscoGomes-bt2iw
    @FranciscoGomes-bt2iw Před 3 lety +3

    Richard I'm in south africa I just encourage you to not stop helping drivers. coz the roads seem nightmare but with your help we will conquer and make it thanks man keep up you just make my day possible

  • @OffeibeautyNaturals
    @OffeibeautyNaturals Před 2 lety

    You are the best driving instructor on CZcams

  • @senthilkumaravel1830
    @senthilkumaravel1830 Před 2 lety

    Nice explanation. Glad that I see this video now before giving test.

  • @rameenalawi3224
    @rameenalawi3224 Před 3 lety +1

    The best explanation ever...🔥🔥🔥🔥
    Thank you so much sir ❤️🙏🌹

  • @Aarontlondon
    @Aarontlondon Před 2 lety

    I wish I had you as my instructor when I was learning to drive! 🤍

  • @thespicyspicey
    @thespicyspicey Před 3 lety

    Keep up the good work, mate! You're *the* best!

  • @Sergeofsocal
    @Sergeofsocal Před měsícem

    Thanks for the video man! I’ve now perfected my driving experience lol

  • @preciousprecious6859
    @preciousprecious6859 Před rokem

    Thank you for the videos haven’t started my lessons yet but they give me confidence

  • @jpna8223
    @jpna8223 Před rokem

    Taking a practical driving course tom! Thank you for this!

  • @gautammure
    @gautammure Před 3 lety +2

    Man, why the hell did I not subscribe to you before!?!! Incredible illustration. And you use words to the T>> Cheers mate keep 'em comin'.

  • @GMa-ep7wh
    @GMa-ep7wh Před rokem

    You are sooooooo good at teaching this. Amazing!

  • @ateebjohns6636
    @ateebjohns6636 Před 4 lety

    You ve nailed it completely for me no more doubts.

  • @dmrgaming1034
    @dmrgaming1034 Před 8 měsíci

    I wish you instruct in my area, you explain things very well - another great video, thank you..

  • @bryanguegan4006
    @bryanguegan4006 Před 4 lety +2

    I needed this, good explanations as always, thanks!

  • @markdavies5662
    @markdavies5662 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic video. All the information I needed 👍

  • @drive-ph
    @drive-ph Před měsícem

    Watching from Philippines... Great explanation! Keep it up! 👍

  • @ytbusernamelol
    @ytbusernamelol Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you!!!! Million timess!!! Watched a lot of videos, still watching other ones, will even re-watch some of them when i like. Thanks man!! Appreciate!! Happy 2024 btw!

  • @dayana4654
    @dayana4654 Před rokem

    I'm learning how to drive, and I was just told to sit comfortably, but no one explained how to correctly sit... I was sitting too close to the wheel, now I'll correct that mistake! Thank you so so much! Hopefully I'll be able to pass my license/driving exam on August 1st

  • @sirhenry617
    @sirhenry617 Před 3 lety +1

    So comprehensive. Thumbs up

  • @thinkoutsidethebigbox1002

    Great Demo and well on points. Great stuff!