Live Tear Down of a Muncie M22
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- čas přidán 6. 12. 2019
- Live disassembly of a broken Muncie 4 speed. Yes I know the camera isn't working right but bear with me while I try to get it sorted out. Latest Android update broke my Autofocus.
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Please everyone stop commenting on the Autofocus issue.i explained in the description that nobody seems to read. No more live videos until I get a good stream set up. Thanks again for watching
Paul I seen where you say your not selling anything and here you say your not doing any rebuilding if thats the case what are you doing? I ask because we want you around I hope your not thinking of closing down.
I sell parts. I design parts. Not going anywhere. I build when I feel like it. Never said not selling anything
@@GearBoxVideo Well thats good to know because I plan to come to your shop one day to say hello.
Sounds good. Appointment only. Do not just show up
@@GearBoxVideo But of course, I'm in Panama, and C-19 going around still so it won't be real soon.
Love this...it’s better than TV. Even if your not into gear boxes, the science of engineering , or getting amazing lessons on how to fix stuff, this guy is so amazing to watch, honest, passionate, sincere, gives me faith in people again, takes my mind off all the lies and bullshit in the world with his honest down to earth way. Its certainly not just about gearboxes......or am I just really stoned? Either way I’m a believer...
First of all I would like to say I could give a rats rear end about the auto focus. The fact you take the time to do these videos and share this type of in depth information is so appreciated. I thank you for your efforts to educate and really train people to think about what they are doing. You have often talk about workmanship. I have to say unfortunately workmanship is more caught than taught. The problem universally in the automotive business is very few these days have the passion to do the very best they can and really do a good job. I deal mainly with automatic transmissions believe it or not in a dealership. When you where taking this apart and showing the poor workmanship it reminds of the units i have taken apart that have been apart sometimes 3 times before I get it. Valve body bolts that are not even tight, rolled seals, seals put in with punches, on and on. Anymore before I start to diagnose something I will find out if it has been worked on already or not. Most of the time if it has been worked on before there is something that was not put together correctly during the prior repair. I have watched guys in dealerships and at independents put together the transmission with an impact and never touch a torque wrench. I am not kidding here. The moral of the story here is, if you do not have a passion for what you are doing then don't do it. Find something you do have a passion for and do it well. Because when you do a crappy job on something, later on somebody else has to fix it. Thanks Paul for your hard work and your passion. It is inspiring.
Thanks you so much for taking the time to give me and others this great feedback. Much appreciated.
@@GearBoxVideo Might have to play around with camera location/angles either way, just for future reference. Maybe try off the side more or from the front angle instead of the shoulder.
New set up is no longer going to be a phone. Phones limits too much. You need good wide angle and it's coming
Paul, the live video is fantastic. Anyone commenting other wise can pull there head out of there tail end.
I just wanted to say a huge thank you for not only making these videos. But also writing the book and fielding calls and emails. You’ve helped me out tremendously with my Muncie rebuild so far. I have learned a lot from the CZcams channel. And having your book to reference during my tear down has been invaluable. Thank you again for all of the hard work you have put into this channel.
Chris
Appreciate it.
I agree... I was able to easily look past it. I was more focused on the disassemble. Awesome video as always
I could watch you disassemble, build, modify and hop up Muncies all day. Can't get enough of the tech tips. I have and M22W that i will be installing in my '68 HK Monaro behind a tickled SBC. It's new, but I will be pulling it down and replacing the case (thanks to the transport company smashing one of the ears off) and ensuring it has all your tips and tricks. Thanks from the other side of the globe for all the information you provide.
Spoke to you the other night about the aftermarket gears for my t56. Found the high spot as expected, used a small cookie cutter like you’ve got on the bench to knock it down then polished it back all the way to a smooth finish. Smooth as butter!! Thanks for these vids. Have me the confidence to do my own work and learn something along the way.
Just as we discussed.
GearBoxVideo yup, really appreciate you taking the time to speak with me
I remember seeing a transmission hourly rate chart that topped out at "if you've worked on it before yourself. This video is testament to the need for doing that, on so many levels. Great job, love the channel, and hope to get to see you do some drag race pro shifted or face plated boxes in the future.
The very best part of this video is being able to see the master have to struggle.
Not because we're masochists, but because a dummy like me who runs across this issue and struggles, with none of Paul's knowledge, at least I can see what's possible and what's not if the issue occurs.
What a wonderful video!!!
My life is a daily struggle.
You could use this guys experience , skill and intelligence on taking gearboxes apart then rebuilding them as a way to think about life. Imagine someone as honest and passionate as this guy running your government? I think problems would start to go way and get fixed properly real quick.....Ho wait a minute we already have....
The Muncie M-22 was the best 4 - speed manual of the day it helped Chevey have an edge over competition 😊 ❤
Really enjoy your videos!
Great to See. Thanks for this! I have to say, I'm sometimes surprised at how rough you seem to be at handling and removing components. I suppose if they are all being changed it really makes little difference anyways. My first M20 build I just completed with your great kit..I treated it like I was working on a precision critical turbine or something when I took it apart lol! I've learned so much from this great site and your book, and would have really been in the dark without them. Cheers!
First if it is assembled correctly it will come apart correctly with ease. Second, it may appear rough but trust me, I know when to ease off as well as apply needed pressure.
Hey paul We love your channel!!
Fascinating stuff. Watching like a hawk!
Time to get a mirror and see what’s hanging up. . .
Finally! I could see the frustration kevel rising. . .
Somebody put a nail in a Rubix Cube, loved the struggle Paul. My son ( who has no patience)would have taken that trans and chucked it in the dumpster, end of story. Keep up the videos, enjoyed.
Ha! I know this is three years late to the party, but this reminded me of the first Ford Toploader I put together when I was 19 or so. I bought the thing in pieces and had an old Chilton’s manual as a guide. I couldn’t even tell you what part of the assembly it was I thought I knew better. Long story short I chucked this partially assembled Toploader into the front yard. 😂
Hey great video's just watched both PRI 14'/19' tours and MAAAN!!! No complaints about your video or audio it's real good. I can see what's going on fine. Love Muncie's, but seeing whats new. That 265 getrag with the dog plate syncros was intresting I like bmw's but usualy its a toss up on wich gear is more useless 2nd or fourth with a 2.88 or so Ist and a 1.44 3rd downshifting and creaping along in traffic bumper to bumper( you can tell i got gripes about transmissions you help me through my grief thanks for all your efforts in making these video's real cool stuff
Thanks a bunch.
good work and thanks from germany
Thank you for watching.
Great video!
That was pretty cool to watch. Paul is building me a new M20 for my 69 Pacer, My tranny took a crap few months ago. Can’t wait to drive the car again
great learning experience, thank you.
How do you get the ball compressed in the tail housing where reverse arm is
I vote for using that Muncie as a door stop. Interesting video.
The hardest part of rebuilding a manual trans is always the "little" things: recalcitrant drive pins, snap rings that won't release and keep slipping out of the tool, gaskets that stick like epoxy, wear and damage in completely unexpected areas...I feel your pain, Paul! But it's an addiction; you have to see what secrets are hiding in there, and what can be saved.
Great video, frustrating when people do such stupid stuff like putting a nail in place of the correct pin. And also the extensive use of silicone sealer. Might want to check that camera, it keeps changing focus slightly depending on how the trans. was moved around. Touchy autofocus. Also might want to find a better location for the microphone, the audio is a little low in volume and makes it difficult to hear your comments along the way sometimes. We appreciate your showing us this piece of work.
By the way AWESOME video's
I have recently purchased three Chevy 409 cars. They're all clones, but I don't care, they were a lot less than numbers-matching. One is a 62 Impala 409 425 with a Tremec 5-speed, I've only driven it for less than 5 minutes, the next is a 63 Biscayne with a 409 425 and a Muncie M20, and the last that I have here at my house is a 62 Bel Air 409 425 with a borg-warner T-10 that pops out of 2nd gear. I wish I was brave enough to tackle rebuilding. I know they aren't complicated, and I have a friend that helps me rebuild automatic transmissions, we may be doing okay 4L880E in the very near future. The 63 Biscayne and 62 Bel-Air both have 308 gears, and both came with for 10 p pazzis, but they still sound busy on the highway due to the solid lifters. One day I'll get them all to my house. The Biscayne and Impala are both in Canada, one sitting in a heated garage, the other in a barn full of mice lol
You can tell how good a mechanic is by the size of his hammer.
and how he properly uses it.
@@GearBoxVideo Yes, you showed great patience with that M22, a 10lb sledge would have gotten it apart sooner. Wish you well.
Good video and informative as always, might see you at PRI, I Live in Indy.
Stop by the Richmond gear booth Thursday
looks like the only good part left might be the main shaft the rest would make a messy door stop with a oil stain on the floor . I worked on mowers for a company that is not open anymore .. seen lots of rig up repairs .. nails and grape wire too hold mower decks on , people used the rider like a brush hog .. I think I know how you were feeling taking the tail shaft off .. getting past other peoples repairs / lack of repairs . could have been a 5 min fix till they worked on it .. love your videos .. please keep them going .. hope all is well ..
Thank You !
Might be a little dizzy with the focus, but great video n information. Thanks for sharing. It was still very watchable. Good job.
Thanks for understanding. I am working on a very cool live setup for the shop
Try turning auto focus off when your shoulder is going to be in and out of the picture. ;-)
Putting it on a non reflective background will help too. Like a piece of plywood.
Finally! Gloves!
Sorry I missed the live feed, but a good video non-the-less. I can certainly relate to having to go behind a "shade tree mechanic" and having to fix it right afterwards.
Thanks. I am working on a better live streaming setup
How handy is that Bench Top rotary tool/flexshaft? Sweet setup, You ever port any heads with that?
Not enough torque for porting
I was wondering if you've ever dealt with mercedes manual transmissions? I have a mercedes c240 2001 6 speed manual and I was wondering if you knew of any rebuild kits with stronger gears? I don't know much about transmissions but plan on tackling this if i can find the right parts as my second gear sychro is shot. I was hoping for info as most people that have owned this vehicle seem to have similar problems but i've looked online for rebuild kits but have not found any.
I don't know of any kits with stronger gears. I have never rebuilt one.. Mercedes is very good with parts. So just go to Mercedes to get them. If it is a ZF box there are certain fixtures and pullers for them. Same with the Getrags. So I would advise to find a good overhaul manual and read it before tackling it
@@GearBoxVideo Really appreciate the help, also really enjoy your videos! Thanks!
Enrique - I was interested in looking up your car since I also have a C-Class with a 6spd. Your transmission is actually a Mercedes unit. The transmission model number is 716.6. I'm not an expert, but I think it is unlikely that you will find stronger aftermarket parts for it. But you can find the OEM workshop instruction manual on eBay, which will provide detail on how to do the job and what tools/parts you will need. Good luck!
Hi Paul, Great videos on the Muncies. How do you remove the bearing that is pressed on the front input shaft?
Older bearings would slide off, but newer ones are press fit, so i use a press and bearing clamp
@@GearBoxVideo Thank you so much.
is it possible and desirable to drill and tap the countershaft to bolt it to the midplate ?
Hard to do after heat treat. Why bother when you get buy a new one from my web store? www.5speeds.com/cart
Good job
Just an Idea watching, You need a seat belt Strap to go from rear area to front of bench, to hold down the entire box, when removing the pins out.
I'm taking an M22 from1969 apart right now i would like to know how you take the counter shaft out/
Watch the first part of the Muncie Tapes video
How to install input shaft in trans case with the bearing on .
I always install with the bearing on and the cluster dropped. Once the input is installed , I raise the cluster up. Needles are held in place with assembly lube.
I was wondering what you would charge me to put synchronizers in a tko 600 ?
Thanks for way the video. At the present time I am not doing repair or rebuild work. I am overbooked on new transmission orders.
@@GearBoxVideo ok thanks,in your opinion what trany is better ,a tko 600 or the g force from astro performance
Gforce and Astro are two different companies. You need to check into what company keeps the best inventory on hand. You decide. I don't see one being stronger than the other but getting parts from one could be a serious issue.
Yes he is very booked.He is the best there is.Been watching his videos for awhile.Always depends.I am sure if you really want your trans done right and able to sleep at night,I would offer him little more money.I am sure he can squeeze you in.Money talks as they say.Great video once again.Learn from them all the time.Question.What causes the counter shaft to walk the mid plate?
Every time your head gets between the trans and the Camera it try's to refocus might need to turn off auto focus. great video.
Have you taken the time to read my video description?
Lol suspense is killing him.What causes the countershaft to walk the mid plate?
"walk the midplate?" I don't understand your question
He had it in "R" for race!
Do You doTremec 6 speeds?
When they are made available to me. I take jobs in that would be of interest to others
I can see the price going up minute by minute. Lol
Darn it I missed the live version..
Great video....but, your autofocus keeps adjusting...a bit distracting. Awesome teardown of m22. Thanks
Didn't you read the description?
Stop by the indy show? But you said regular people can't go, right?
Anyone in the business can go. Most people just ask someone who knows a service biz to register them.
right about there is when some foul language would spill out of my mouth and id start throwing tools :(
Hey get a better workplace with more space! I see you work in very confined space of about 1x2 feet only. Make your shop a great place again :-) Have fun and great thanks for all the videos!!
Thanks for watching. I'm working on it
I remember my first time tearing down a muncie. You made that way harder than it had to be.
Look at my other videos
Do more live workshop please.
I will. Just getting a new love set up
@@GearBoxVideo Brilliant can't wait love watching people who take care and pride in what they do.
Every time your head comes between the transmission and the camera its trys to refocus.
Camera keeps going in and out of focus only complaint
getting it fixed.
You should wear gloves... i was getting minor infections 25 years ago. My doc said wear gloves, I said NEVER! Long story short... I would never touch ANYTHING dirty now wothout gloves, not even the cat litter box. You'll get used to them. I've tryed every brand, they all have tbey're advantages and disadvantages, but my hands are soft as butter
Just wondering what that person would have in that $$
Over 2K.. it's matching numbers
Funny how I wached the whole thing to see how you get the clip off at 23:05 and you didn't show it. lol
What clip?
@@GearBoxVideo I think its a snap ring without holes. My daughter called me and asked how to take it off but on a M20 so I checked out your video to see what she was talking about. You turned the case as soon as you removed the clip so I couldn't see it. I think the M20 tightens on with a right hand thread and required a tool.
There is no snap ring..I have a bunch of other videos. Most come off simply with RETAINING RING PLIERS. Search on Amazon. Also watch the whole Muncie tape series. Complete assembly is all there
Not easy.
It's what you get paid for.
Hacksaw time
fix him up and let him break it again.. its just money
God oh mighty lol 👍🏼
Good work Paul. It's tough enough fighting someone else's crap work without the pressure of running the camera. Keep 'em coming
Thanks, I'm working on a cool streaming set up
@@GearBoxVideo Looking forward to it