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The Muncie Tapes - Part 1 - How to Assemble and Rebuild a Muncie 4 Speed Transmission
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- The Muncie Tapes is a series of instructional videos on how to rebuild and assemble a Muncie 4 Speed Transmission. This parts deals with case preparation.
Muncie 4 speed parts are available from www.5speeds.com/cart
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Just ordered a rebuild kit and sliders from him after a talk on the phone absolutely knows his stuff and his knowledge on muncies are great! Thanks again! Anyone needing parts or work dont go anywhere else, listen to the guru lol
your attention to the details is a sign of a true Master..
I am a Chrysler guy, but I really enjoy your videos. They are educational and informative. I can’t wait for one about the A833!
I appreciate that! When I get one in the shop it will happen. There is a complete build in my first book.
During this pandemic Paul has been a great help in both parts and the knowledge he has shared in his videos. I pulled the M-21 out of my Chevelle to do a clutch change and ended up rebuilding the transmission with a new AGE supercase, new midplate etc. I just watched one of his videos on rebuilding a Hurst Comp. Plus shifter and it was great and helped me do it. Thanks Paul!
Thanks for watching
another great video! great information and no annoying music. Will have my parts order ready in a couple of weeks for you. thanks again.
I second that. Thanks Paul for not adding music.
WOW. That is good stuff!
This channel is going to take off soon, and when it does Paul has the perfect model to make lots and lots of money on the ewetoobs. No swearing, family friendly, hyper informative. Watching this video is like digging into the stocking on Christmas day.
Thanks for the compliments. The channel is 11 years old. I wish it could have more reach but unless people share videos the growth will be slow. I appreciate the support.
Paul just watched part 3 of your gearbox tapes , you are a wealth of information when comes to manual gearbox , really nice hardware you use on these rebuilds you don’t cut corners anywhere, I would not have a problem rebuilding my m22 after watching this four tape series thank you for your knowledge
Thank you for keeping the art alive for future generations of young gearheads!
Thanks Paul... The Saint of Gears, Monarch of Mainshafts, Pope of Synchro’s.🛠
That's funny
I was beginning to wonder about you. Didn't see you for so long. Nice to have you back giving us your detailed explanations of assembling these older gear boxes.
Take care!
Thanks, you too!
I always look for a new video from you and today there it was. I like the way your are doing this mini series on the Muncie ! Great video, Thank's Paul !!!
Thanks so much!
Thanks for inviting me to hang out, again, with you in your shop at lunch today, Paul; I love your work. I look forward to the rest of the series.
Any time!
Great video, can't wait for part 2!
Paul we really appreciate everything you do for us. Thank you soooooooo much.
Great video! Nice step by step procedure. Thank you for posting.
Nice!, I really appreciate you Paul, for taking the time, producing these films for us. Thank you. Larry
Great vid, appreciate the one-over on your upgrades.
Another killer video Paul! Can't wait for part 2.
Thank you.
great video paul you explain things very thouroughly and you have great techniques and upgrades
Nice job,love your upgrades and attention to detail,looking forward to the next part.
More to come!
Excellent Mentoring, Thanks for the Tech Tips and attention to details.
It's quite something to see work done with an attention to detail and such care put in to ensure everything is right for the long haul. That's so sadly rare nowadays.
Too many things I am learning with you, Paul. Not only about gear boxes but tools and the way of do things professionally. Thank you again.
Cool, thanks
Great video, Very nice work, thanks very much for sharing 👍👍
Amazing, the detail and the content is just brilliant. Thanks a ton. I'm learning so many wonderful things on your channel. Great work 👌👌
Thank you for sharing this! I will be buying parts from you in the future!
Love you Muncie video learned alot how to fix and upgrade my 4 speed Muncie thanks
Thank you for taking the time to explain things!
Glad it was helpful!
You sir are a real pro! You do great work.
I appreciate that!
This video and all yours others is why I subbed a long time ago great work and explanation of details....... I greatly appreciate you doing all these videos.... Thank You!
Thanks for the sub!
Got my autographed copy of the book. Thanks man
Thank you for what you do! I bought your book, don't use it much but wanted to support. Getting ready to embark on a rebuild on my Corvette's M22. I will be consulting these videos and buying your parts. Please keep turning them out.
What a wealth of information thanks for sharing Paul!
My pleasure!
Thanks for these tapes, I really appreciate your time and knowledge in understanding the careful assembly of the Muncie, I have your book and will be pulling my M21 for a rebuild shortly.
Thank you so much for watching.
Very informal and appreciate the attention to detail. Can't wait for the next episode as I am right in the middle of this now...get er dun.. great work as always Paul thanks.
Awesome, thank you!
Love your videos Paul. Your W58 video set helped me with the seal & drive gear changes on my R154.
Now I continue to watch your content as I find it so interesting.
Thank you
very helpful information and you present it well. I like your up grades to make the transmission preform better and longer. Coodoos.
Thanks Paul great video! Hope it all goes back to normal soon enough.
I hope so too
Your book is great, but this vid is fantastic and priceless. Well done.
Thanks for the great compliment.
Another great video Paul! Really enjoy your Muncie videos. Your insight is very helpful and helps me understand what to look for and watch out for when trying to keep my 55 year old Muncie alive and well.
Thank you
Paul,
As always, GREAT CONTENT , Explained in a clear understandable manner. Thanks for sharing your knowledge & expertise with us.
Stay Real.
Much appreciated!
Thanks for #1, #2, #3. Looking forward to order a M22 from you after this corona mess.
Thanks Paul, your the man! Been a fan for years, your dedication to quality work and a precision product is what makes you who you are. All the best, be safe and thanks again for the Muncie Tapes, they help me and everyone to understand and learn.
I appreciate that!
Yeah we're at home. Really appreciate your work. It's much better to day dream about the details than to day dream general thoughts.
Well said
Awesome video!!! Explained very well!!
Glad it was helpful!
That is the right work strategy!
I'm a machinist and have a muncie in my garage I was going to use on a land cruiser project. Just wanted to learn more about it. Thank you!
Very cool! There is a 4 x 4 conversion for the Muncie I did on this channel for a Land Cruiser
Paul, thank you for all that you do. I have your book, and I am subscribed to your CZcams channel, and I look forward to every video that you release. I have a Muncie 4-Speed in my 1970 Corvette and though there are no problems so far (only 18,000 original miles on the car) since she is 50 years old, I don't want to take any chances and I want to be fully informed, and your videos (especially "The Muncie Tapes") do just that. Thank you again and please know that you are doing God's work!
Thanks for your support.
Thank you for the videos. Well detailed, well informed. I’m learning from you and ETCG when you both did the T5 tear down/rebuild in ETCG shop. Would luv to get ur T5 manual if possible? U have a strong work ethic, patience and keep a very clean workspace. I will keep watching and learning. Ty GBV, stay safe take care !!
Thanks a bunch. My first book has all the T5 info in it
Nice!! Top notch, as usual...:-)
Like watching your videos you are awesome
You are the master of anti slush boxes please hang in there for those of who choose our our own gears!!!!!!
Awesome information. No one else on the web is even close to the craftsmanship of this man. Paul has one way to assemble, the right way. no corners cut. Everything is disclosed and it's up to you to follow suit. Easier said than done unfortunately
Wow, thanks!
Bought the book!! Waiting to assemble my m21. hurry up usps!!!
I just ordered my book today. Now I need an M-22.
Thank You !!!!
thank you
Awesome
I bought your book I really like it
Ur a legend
I recently rebushed and bearinged a 3 speed model a straight cut trans.
Thanks for another GREAT video
Tnx u!
I thought you cracked that side cover when tapping that pin in place.....Nah it was just the locking fluid. Love your channel.
You have to have a feel sometimes and the feel and skill is developed over time.
fantastic knowledge, thank you! Have you ever rebuilt a T98/T18? I have one that needs some work.
Sent it in and I'll do a video
Damn that was awesome!! Thank you sir. One question will your mid plate fit all muncie transmissions?
Thank you
when will the m22 main shafts be back in stock on your site?
All these parts you built, like this fork, are they for sale piece by piece? Thank you and your videos are super helpful!
Some parts are available on my website. www.5speeds.com
Subbed! :D London
Thanks for the vids man, could you reccomend a budget 4spd or 5spd for a 500 ftlb engine
I don't know what your budget is. Most engines are built on a budget and have new parts. Most 4 or 5 speeds are 30 to 40 years old now. So usually it depends on your application.
I'm about to undertake the rebuild of my M21. Your videos are amazing...so much great info. Thanks for them. One question...does the input shaft bearing press on/off, or will it be something I can remove at home without a press?
Sometimes older ones will slide off, replacements are tighter
@@GearBoxVideo I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
She's on there pretty good. Bearing splitter, or machine shop?
Depends on your budget.i would invest on my own splitter puller
Is rebuilding a SM465 similar to a m21 m22 ? Love your videos , well done .
Completely different. You can find GM overhaul manuals on Ebay for the trucks they came in. They are pretty detailed
Had a question. Pulled the trans out.was shifting fine. Replaced the rear tailshaft bushing,seal and slip yoke. Replaced the trans mount. I'm having an issue with 3rd gear. Seems to pop out of third and some times grinding getting into 3rd. Was completely fine before. Is there something out of adjustment?
Yes, your clutch. Give it less freeplay
Great video Thanks Do you have a book on the super T10? I have one and I would like to overhaul it.
Yes my book Building and Modifying HP transmissions covers it. It's available direct at www.5speeds.com/cart
Tips on reamers:
A straight flute reamer is called a machine reamer. A spiral flute reamer is a hand reamer.
A machine reamer is intended to be used in a milling machine or drill press where the reamer is square to the machine's table. This is because a machine reamer has no lead-in.
A hand reamer has a short section on the end that is undersize. This is to guide the reamer into the existing bore. If you are going to ream holes freehand, you should use a spiral flute reamer.
Sorry not true. There are many hand reamers that are straight flute. There are also many machine reamers that are spiral flute. You are also making an assumption that you can get any size as a hand reamer and that it has a spiral flute option. I prefer straight flute reamers. Grinding a lead in is no big deal. You have to know what you are doing .
@@GearBoxVideo Quite the free hand ream on that tail
I ordered your T5 book and I can't wait to get it in!! Do you sell upgrade parts for the Ford T5? Also, do you sell complete Ford T5's that have been upgraded? I haven't decided if I want to try and build mine or just buy a new one.
Thanks for getting the book. I am currently not selling T5 parts much or complete units
@@GearBoxVideo Man, I sure would like to have bought one from you because you are the man Paul!! The way you are so precise with everything is just hard to find these days. I found a 500 horsepower T-5 from Pro Motion Powertrain for $2700 bucks so I guess that's the route that I'll go.
A am
My 67 olds m21 has been sitting for 45 yrs,never been opened up,still has original gear lube, been doing an amateur resto on the car. I guess I'll just change the lube and replace real seal and see what happens,it has 76,000 mi on it but had no issues back in the day.(wonder if this is a bad idea)🛠️
Why not? Usually they are fine.
oh! what about gear rhonda?
I noticed on my cover, once it’s all set up, I can actually shift it into 4th then also into 1st gear at the same time. Is this normal? I thought it should never be able to shift in multiple gears at once. It will block any other gear combination and shifts great otherwise. 20lbs spring, OEM shift arms, autogear detent levers, OEM shift forks.
That would be impossible if the interlocks are in place correctly
I’d like to rebuild an M-22. What is a good way to find a good rebuildable M-22? I ordered your book. I have a 66 Chevelle with a strong 427 and have only had automatic transmissions in my Chevys.
swap meets. Stay away from Ebay
@@GearBoxVideo Thanks for the advice! I need to read your book that just arrived.
How much clearance do you give shifter shafts? .0005", .001" or .0015"? thanks, Dan
001
Love ur channel u kick ass 👍
I have a Muncie 3-speed. Are the parts for rebuild available? Seems like at most retailers the default is 4-speed only. Any notable differences?
Yes. Different parts. No longer available
GO PAUL !
CAN YOU HOOK UP A MUNCIE TO A HONDA K SERIES ENGINE ? FOR REAR WHEEL DRIVE OF COURSE !
I'VE SEEN A GFORCE TRANS BEHIND ONE... DO THEY HAVE THE SAME BOLT PATTERN ?
Yes they do. I don't know who makes the adapter. Maybe G-force?
What exactly are you using for greasing the seals and stuff? The red grease..
I use any light wheel bearing grease.
What type of hand file are you using to flatten out the surfaces?
Flat files are available from any tool supply store and even Home Depot. Fine tooth files
GearBox, do you know anything about the thrust bearing in a Muncie sm318? If so, I believe mine came apart and was wondering where to get a replacement. Thanks.
You mean thrust washer?
No. It’s shown as a thrust bearing sandwiched between the reverse idler gear and a thrust bearing washer. Can send you some pictures. Only guy I can find with any knowledge on muncies.
Send to support@5speeds.com
Thanks. Sent you 2 emails with a few pics.
What's your opinion of the Richmond Gear Super T-10 Plus 4 Speed? Are they up to your standards? Thanks.
The ones we build.. Yes. I think they are a great street 4 speed for cars with proper rear end gear and no more than 450hp
@@GearBoxVideo 450hp might be a problem. I have a BBC in a 78 nova putting out 500-550hp and maybe the same on torque.
Also depends on the rear axle. You need to run a min of 3.73 gears no 3.08 gears. Maybe a new TKX 5 speed would be better
Hello, I have a Muncie sm318 3-speed. Will your book and videos be a decent guide for me if I end up tearing into the 318? Thanks.
No. You can get overhaul manuals for your vehicle which you should invest in. They cover in great detail the overhaul of that transmission
Or any advice on rebuilding the 318? Trying to do this on my elementary teacher budget!
Thanks for your advice.
This was so cool. Do you sell the parts you used in the video???
Yes I do . Read the video description
Looks like rebuild kits for 64/65 Muncie's are sold out...@@GearBoxVideo
These will be back in stock this week. Make sure yo use the notify me button on the product page
Where can I get the triple lip seal for the output shaft?
@@immlgish7597 My contact information is in the video description. You can purchase those in my online store
Where can I get a new case for a M21 or M22 ? My existing case is totaled!!
Caes right now are getting hard to come by. Try Ebay.
naprawia pan jeden rodzaj skrzyń na tych filmach ?
Tak. Ale nadal możesz się uczyć.
Ok,I am ready for Class, my first day. I went thru Votech Truck Diesel. We two guys per team and we rebuilt a semi-truck transmission. Well, y partner did all the work because I was going to school to get my GI Bill check every month and I had to be enrolled in a university accredited school. I cut way too many classes going over to my new girlfriend's house, and she woke up around 9 am. The class started at 7am we were in the shop by 8 am and I was in her bed by 8:30. Back at school by 10 am just in time for inside the classroom. O I'm not as sharp as I should be. Well at the time I couldn't tell you about RoadRanger transmissions. Well I can still do the Power comes in through the input shaft, to first gear on primary bla bla and it leaves thru the output shaft. But was on top of my game when it came to 18-year-old girls. lol. Ok back to class.
But you learned the facts of Life
Is there a big demand for this transmission?
Huge demand. Has been for 40 years believe it or not.
Damn straight.
what's the size and brand of the reamer?
Which reamer? I use several in my work. Be specific
@@GearBoxVideo The reamer used to open up the bore (750 thousands) on the cover and side extension.
.751
Did I miss it? or did you forget to tell people to clean everything after filing the surfaces??
I'm not going to waste time teaching shop basics. If you can't comprehend the importance of clean work and you would leave metal filings in a transmission case because you lack basic skills and need to be told to clean surfaces should you really be doing this type of work in the first place? It's like reading a recipe. Does one need to be told how to crack an egg?
I thought iron mid plates and or iron cases were stronger than aluminum.
I make an iron midplate for the Muncie. Question is do you need overkill? For a normal driver a billet midplate is stronger and more accurate then the cast plate.
@@GearBoxVideo Fair enough, I just remember that iron cases and mid plates didn't flex for a stronger transmission for racing.
As mentioned depends. Most of the time an iron midplate will girdle any flex
what about putting the tail stock in moms oven at 300 for 30 minutes?? I would suggest gear rhonda oven- but she might shoot me
What would the point be? To waste 30 mins of time to press in a bushing? I'm not getting this
@@GearBoxVideo hi I simply want to avoid pressing it- You have extras- I dont
@@samstewart4807 .. The only time you need to heat something up before pressing something into it is if your press fit is so great, it will damage the bore when done cold. There is no such press fit anywhere on this gearbox.
I bought my hydraulic press just to make it easier to rebuild my Muncie.
A good improvement to any shop or garage👍
What kind did you get? I need one. What do you use it for? Thanks!
Only issue..... when you have clean, ready to install parts laid out on the bench, DO NOT start filing on something right next to them!! Where are those shavings going? Pick up the case and file on it AWAY from the clean parts. Thats just me I guess.
I'm smart enough to make sure the parts are clean going in. Thanks for your concern.