Ranking lords based on PERSONALITY - Stronghold Tier List
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
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Link to tier list: tiermaker.com/create/strongho...
0:00 - Intro
0:27 - C Tier
1:25 - B Tier
6:17 - A Tier
9:42 - S Tier
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I personnaly loved the rat 😂 with his stupidly build maze castles, his troops of 3 archers getting instantly killed and his ridiculous screams (oh and I forgot his backstory of consanguinity)
same same
exactly. How could the rat be at the bottom of a personality list? he has a ton of personality!
Yeah, on a personality tier list, the Rat's an easy A rank. He's pathetic, but he's memorably and hilariously pathetic.
I guess he is either annoying or endearing. I found him endearing, but I've heard people describe him as annoying.
Duke De Puce was soo lame it was great. A bastard momma's boy who became an opportunistic rebel at the right time to grab some power. And he used it to eat some good food and then nothing else really. And from looking at his face he probably had some kind of STD's, like a real rat bastard.
Also it never skipped my mind that "De Puce"--Puss--Pussy" is not far off.
Lady Seren actually does quite a lot in the story, she's just always in the background. She holds the traitorous Edwin captive, double-crosses Barclay to relieve William's and Matthew's siege, and shelters the King in her Abbey (which becomes an important place of battle). She is also kind-hearted and has a love affair with William.
While she doesn't have as much screen time, she definitely has more to show than the rest of the C Tier group.
Yes, but in the kingmaker she always builds a bedchamber and goes full on lesbian. C tier.
can't believe you put sultan and rat so low
they are some of the most iconic characters in stronghold especially rat like come on
even after 20 years of not playing the game if i ask someone who the rat was he would be saying "my plans worked perfectly, you are no match for me!"
I mean the rat is not charismatic but as you said definitely iconic, was also very much surprised to see him so low. But he seems to rank weak characters lower than strong characters, this might have influenced this. Also in my opinion the useless king in s2 should be C tier. Most boring king I have ever seen, useless whenever he appears in the campaign, no authority AT ALL and a coward.
funny how i could hear his voice while reading that line :dd
@@Empobaer He rated based on remarkable personality, and i would put Edwin, the Rat and the Pig equally low. Not because they fail to impress, but because they ARE really vermins.
Good point. Both the Rat and the Sultan stand out. The Rat is an arrogant jerk and fun to squash, and the Sul-Tahn quotes poetry in his stupid little round base. I love that they made characters with a wide range of skill and strategy, and even comical ones.
rat at C tier? what are you smoking?
TBH i realy like rat as a character i put him in most custom ai games
The Wolf bamboozled me on the last mission in OG Stronghold. After finally managing to take out his defences and got into the inner keep, i carched my swordsman towards him, all at once, only to be burnt alive by the pitch in front of his keep 🤦♂️. I exited the game and took a good week break, I felt soo decimated.
Caliph is more Funny, because I N F I D E L
Kalif in Polish version is better. NIEWIERNY !
I have to disagree on William. While personality-wise, he's fun, you overrate his usefulness. In the economic campaign, the King outright says he's on crusades and courting while bandits and wolves harass his land and the player has to prevent his estate from starving. Also, his Royal Champion title was literally handed over by the player who fixed up all the neglects in his estates.
Ignoring him handing over the Royal Guard to Pascal, he frees Edwin, a guy who attacked Sir Grey previously and a known unreliable traitor. He then let himself capturing by following Edwin to Olaf. Apart from that, he leaves Matthew Steele at the mercy of Olaf because "you need more than troops to win a war". He then proceeds to play hero against armies that vastly outnumber him, only to have the player (again) clean up his mess. So overall, in terms of usefulness, he's a loyal, yet inept, suicidal moron.
Very interesting view and I can hardly disagree with any of those points. But you still have to give him a charismatic bonus+grace.
I rather disliked the king in S2, whenever he appeared he was freaking useless. In the last mission(good) his attackside was the weakest or in the other last mission(bad) his castle was so easily overrun compared to lord Barkley's castle. He feels like a coward without any authority nor competence.
@@Empobaer To be fair with the King, he was poisoned and his royal guard was disbanded, so he had to hide. The King wasn't too interesting in SH1 either.
Sure, William has a certain charm but he's kind of an inept hero, making Matthew's optional betrayal kinda justified. I must say I really enjoy putting him down, lol.
@@xxlCortez I must say that William seems very stupid (perhaps it's the role of Honor in his dastardly decision making). Honestly don't really understand why everyone loves him so much. On the other hand he pushes the plot forward.
You forgot the worst part about him. William keeps talking about loyalty and honor but if you build a bedchamber and put him on civilian duty in the hawks nest he won't hesitate a second do share a bed with your girl right after you saved his life. Such a hypocrite
Haven't watched this channel in a long time.
Glad to see it still doing well, like last time the channel was on 2k subs
Hey welcome back! Glad to see you here again!
Wtf, Sultan is awesome. His bars are so fire that even the Caliph is amazed.
I mean i dont know why the flip rat is in c tier i personally belive he should be top 4 but i do agree with pig,caliph and wolf favourite characters
I would rank Snake even higher but Rat doesn't really stand out to me, I thought putting him higher would be too biased because I loved Stronghold 1 more than every other game!
Too many thoughts:
How is rat so low on the list, the men is a living meme.
Anyway;
Since that video on proving that Emir is more dangerous than previously given credit for, He grew more to me; I like to imagine him being a hidding genius, but to desinteressed in mortal affairs to actually be a threat.
But these characters of the second trail in Stronghold Crusader never appealed to me, they are too generic and unoriginal.
I noticed that the first trail has the following: The 4 of Stronghold, 2 historical characters (1 European 1 Middle-eastern) and Two Arabic warlords (One good and one evil) The second trail add two European Historical figure; 4 Middle Easterns (3 variations of Caliph and the Emir, who is himself a variation of the Sultan.) And two random European IA (Abbot: A fanatical Christian and the Xeriff, like in Robin Hood.) This second part is wrong, they should include +2 famous middle eastern historical figure to keep the balance. Also, they should start by including one nice european crusader (maybe a pilgrim protector) and one bad european (a Normandic looter).
There actually are unused ai voice lines in the game, one for an arabian lord and the other for a crusader.
Marshal, Abbot and Nizar were pretty interesting due to very specific usage of units ( their power was different thing ), Frederick was awfuly balanced ( imo he should be someone as "good" Wolf ) and should not require billion years to build castle and economy. Nazir is lacking personality? Well, yes but it's hard to expect from XII-th century Special Forces Operator to be overly talkative.
If something SHC missed Byzantine lord and Mongol Khan. Both factions played important part during Crusade wars. Also beyond Abbot lack of any form of order of knights.
In case of Emir I always recognized him as someone between Saladin and Sultan. Not as bright as Saladin but infinitely more strategist than Sultan with mixure of positive things from both. Maybe some of their relative? ;) Son of Sultan? ;)
Wazir was too similar to Caliph in personality and beyond castle shape he was too similar. King Phillippe was made too much meme in comparison to the real life counterpart. Sheriff personality of ultra greedy sob was funny as same as is castle after setting fire...
Marshal and Abbot as they were inportant caracters in SH1 imo they fit concept. Marshal is old lord, he loves war but he has too much to lost. His "unlce" personality was ok. Still Abbot making all this gallows in castle looks pretty different from Good Monk in SH1.
5:35 hey bro I just wanted to say that emir is a persian lord not arabian because his names are emir pashang and sapehr which are persian/iranian names 😉
Also if you dont believe that emir is persian its because arabs don't have the p and g sound
I know Wazir is a semi-persian lord, didn't know Emir was one too!
I think Wazir was from Abbasid era, not sure what he was made after
@@Jefflenious nice
@@Jefflenious tnx for your attention about it my friend i love your videos
@@Jefflenious ye my friend actually abbasid caliphs used persian ministers for some of non arab eras like anatolia and some eastern arab state even wazir in persian means minister
But about emir actually there is one diffrent between them
Wazir was right hand of arab caliph
But emir is for Independent persian dynesty what joined as muslims for war
Kos madar harchi basiji
9:34 had me dying😂😂 basically a budget wolf 😂😂
The difference between Duc Volpe's portrait animation and his dialogue is kind of jarring though
Sir William is my favourite Stronghold 2 character.
I hate him. He's a glorified idiot. I mean that objectively.
I love the imcompetence of Rat & Sultan, i think you underrated them both. Especially the Rat is quite entertaining and at least kinda exicting to play against. Rat is one of my favorite characters tbh
Yeah I can definitely agree with Rat being too low, he was really funny especially on Stronghold 1
I think I would move Rat to A and Barclay to B
Most of the Stronghold Crusader characters are rated B because they're not as rich in terms of lore (This game has lore?) compared to characters from Stronghold 1 or Stronghold 2
@@Jefflenious thank you. I also love Richard and while there is no lore, his all-in and noble fighting style would put him in S for me, same with Snake. Overall Wolf, Snake, William, Bull, Caliph and Richard would be in my S Tier. I don't like the crusader version of the pig, his defence is too weak and his armies are too small imo. But nice work overall
@@Jefflenious and btw. Just because of this video i am now playing S2 for the first time in yeara
@@fabiansproer378 Nice! I'm glad you're enjoying the game again!
Just a little tip though, the steam version is apparently broken on some graphic cards. It would be more convenient if you can find an older version of the game (Same with Stronghold Legends Steam Edition)
You don't like Rat? How? He has more depth than most of the other lords.
Ranking them into tier list seems pretty hard considering everyone has a different opinion
So I'll do it like this (in no specific order):
Wolf
- Ganondorf of the Stronghold franchise
- His Stronghold 3 counterpart is how I imagine Ganondorf's ideal voice. I wish that'll be the case in upcoming Breath of the Wild 2
Saladin
- my favorite lord in Stronghold Crusader
- I wish he was my dad 😢
Sir William
- IMO the poster boy of the Stronghold franchise as a whole
- I seem to often imagine having him in Smash Bros
Caliph
- the most funniest lord in Stronghold Crusader, because of his lines and his AI logic
I got no idea how i found this channel just now, but you narrating the whole video with that "TTS" voice gets me dead ass laughing. Keep it up my man
Literally becoming his own identity
Great one bro. The Wolf is the one and only in the stronghold series ... ❤️
Can we talk about how perfect the campaigns were for Stronghold 2? They really captured lightning in a bottle on that one!
Lady Seren maybe B tier. Hot chick in plate armor was nice in my young age. Wolf is S+ and narrator with cape from stronghold 1 shoud also be counted. But no idea where to put him.
Your channel is so meme and good x3
Olaf is really the best vilain in S2, he is so feared that Barclay and the others Just appear when you kill him. And defeating him, wich is pretty darn hard, earns respect enough for you to choose sides.
I cant express that enough, but the truth is that you cant think in anyone Else in the game while he is still alive and kicking; and harassing your borders.
Im quite proud to have him as my personal enemy in the campaing.
Hey jeff! I think the stronghold content is good but you will run out on content I say that you should get into more rts games like age of empires 2 for example
Surprised you didn't say Age of Empires 4! I would have to start from 0 with new games, even this video isn't getting that many views, But I think that's what I'm gonna do so expect some random content soon
@@Jefflenious yeah I like 2 more its classy and like stronghold
داداشم ❤️
@@amirmohammadshakibayi4221 سلام
eyyy, aoe2 hype.
Though the market might be a bit filled tbh. Plenty of analytical, gameplay and so further content already exists.
Wolf is epic man...
You should do a video about him
i legit qoute "infifel" at least once per day
I only played the stronghold crusader. I really liked almost all the original lords. Their lines feels real and they all have very defining personality. The added lords however almost all (if not all) felt dull and flat. This added lords lines sounds superficial. One moment that hammers this down for me is when you defeat them. All the original lords reaction to their defeat really sells their personality. Rat is really cowardice, snake tries to deceive you, saladin being the wise, wolf tries to keep his own pride, lionheart acknowledge your skills. While the added ones all pretty much say "oh well, this is just a game, see you next time".
Come on, Barclay is the best character by far, the wolf is just always talking about how bitter he is and how he wants to torture you and he is so cold and calculated and bloodthirsty he is byt at the end of the day he has 0 caracter beyond that. Barclay is relatively cold and calculated as well, but he has other motives and even says it is a shame you are not on his side and together you could have made the country great again.
Good video 👍
Did th evideo skip out on MacCloud or am I tripping EDIT: nvm I didn't realize he was grouped with Olaf
Rat and Sheriff are both S-Tier Meme characters
If Sir William and Matthew Steele aren't S tier I'm rioting
Looking back at this video again, seeing Bishop and Queen not rated i do think i can think of things.
Bishop could be in C, i think he is in same vein as Abbot and like that his lines mention his larger connection to the Church itself with threats to communication, he is just meh with a few lines in the campaing.
The Queen not being in campaing is dull but her lines on Kingmaker are really fun. Like having a Royal Warrant for your head or such, also having her be an actual strong AI really gives power to her lines. Its defo a very entertaining AI with good voice acting and i see her in A tier easily.
As for like 30 other characters that have been in Stronghold... that may be for another time.
7:22 he is a face of stronghold crusader he is even on the box
Sheriff Plot Twist: "l'm Santa Claus, not a taxes nerb! Buzz off!!!"
"Stana Claus"
@@AnotherDaveMiller0 bruh
surly the advisor from stronghold 1 and crusader is the true number 1 ranking here
"Берегись, храбрый рыцарь! Бойся удара в спину!"
Definately the best character.
11:57 The Pig is very cool 😮
even as a full grown adult the wolf still scares me
sultan in russian localisation is more funny i'd tell :D
rat in C tier??? how!!?
I assumed that emir was from iran because of the nick namea
I really really hate the side-to-side head wiggle and the stupid grin when the sultan taunts you 😄
0:11 if you included other strongholds arthur and vlad from stronghold legends would be at the very top
You forgot the scribe.
SULTAN MUST BE IN A TIER
You know, you can say Edwin sucks all you want, but he somehow reliably beats Sir Grey and Lady Seren in combat from what I´ve seen so far.
Simpkins? Nasty tinny sort of name.
idk if it just me but lionheart is pretty boring, but he sure fit the medieval theme
What name of music when woolsack talking?
I think it's "Two mandolins"
why would u rank d personality of d characters when that have nothing to do with story nor gameplay?
rat should be atleast in A tier he is perfect first villain for the videogame he is ritually scaredy cat and just he is so funny
All the characters without campaign appearances are C tier for me.
Some good quotes don't make up for the lack of depth. And I won't factor in gameplay.
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Only for me Edwin have similiar vibes to Rat? I mean ... guys, please hear his whinings 😂
I am violently insulted that The Rat™ has placed so low on the tier list.
Richard and Saladin are not S and they have books written specificly for them. Whatever you are using, I want that one too Jeff.
Sheriff is my fav
saladin my friend i cant believe hes just A
I Love SHC
have Richard or Saladin as ally, set a bonfire for your peasants, then have a home visit to their castle. go to sleep😂
Rat at bottom?
The Rat, Sultan, Saladin, and The Lionheart should have been much higher.
Plz tell me what program you use for that ai sound
ttsmp3.com
It's an absolute :C you rated Rat so low.
I played both English and Russian localization: he is Tier A in both.
Do a lords ranking based on how dripped they are
The caliph is S as always
The Rat in C Tier ????
All the irrelevant generic side characters from Stronghold 2 above Sultan, Philip and Rat? COME ON .....
Sometime it seems like u r living in stronghold
BOY!
The Caliph is just straight up annoying. His constant taunts and that high pitched voice of his, annoys the crap outta me. Also his peskiness is doubled down when you defeat him. Hearing "You have not seen the last of me, infidel." gives of the vibe that he'll eventually come back somehow, to keep biting you in the ass. One might say, he's inevitable.
Rat is S tier come on now
You haven't put them in a list according to their personality, lolol
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