Working With Bent Wood Wheels | Dynamics of Being a Wheelwright

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2019
  • As a wheelwright, the dynamics of wood plays a big role in assembling wood wheels. Accurate mathematics is also fundamental and the smallest mistakes can add up to big errors. On heavy wheels, spokes and fellows undergo extreme flexing during the building process, often times being brought near the point of breaking. Once the fundamentals of the wheelwright are understood in light wheels, the same principles can be applied to heavy wagon wheels. I try to explain those principles here.

Komentáře • 236

  • @SODAK2276
    @SODAK2276 Před 4 lety +2

    You don't make any mistakes if you do nothing! We learn and move on. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnsanley7761
    @johnsanley7761 Před 4 lety +2

    My Great Uncle was a wheelwright in Lancashire, England and ended up as a Funeral Undertaker as the wheels "ran out. Thank you for your very interesting videos and in particular for the Natural History and local scenic views at the start and end.

  • @roberthumphreys1316
    @roberthumphreys1316 Před 4 lety +2

    I attended the Westward Ho parade in Pendleton, Oregon yesterday. no motorized vehicles are allow. After watching many of your videos I looked at the wagons very differently than before!

  • @frogmann49
    @frogmann49 Před 4 lety +2

    I feel sorry for anyone that doesn't find this really interesting. Glad I paid attention in algebra and geometry class so I could follow you. I think I told you some time back that my great grandfather was a wainwright/blacksmith. Although I was really young when he died, watching your videos brings him and his craft back to life for me. Thank you again for sharing this bygone trade and making history come alive for all of us.

  • @RickTashma
    @RickTashma Před 4 lety +11

    Greetings, Dave. I never imagined that watching someone pound on wood for 15 mins would be so mesmerizing and relaxing for me! LOL The background music makes all the difference. It's a delight to watch your vids on Saturday. Thank you for caring enough to share your craftsmanship with us. Respectful regards.

  • @jackreeves3001
    @jackreeves3001 Před 4 lety +1

    You are amazing. Figuring out all your gigs and tools out is spectacular. You are the definition of a National treasure! Thanks for sharing

  • @charlesxix
    @charlesxix Před 4 lety +1

    I like the "7 and a strong eighth" bit, this is the real world.

  • @paulhammond7489
    @paulhammond7489 Před 4 lety +42

    I never ceased to be amazed at the numbers of specialised and effective tools that have been developed to make these near impossible looking tasks possible.

    • @cf6282
      @cf6282 Před 4 lety +2

      It is so nice to see this gentleman show us how it all works. Really hope he taught someone else to do this all.

  • @lbh002
    @lbh002 Před 3 lety

    This is why our math instructors in school always told us to check your work! Nice save!

  • @aserta
    @aserta Před 4 lety

    Whoa, i doubt anyone could put on a half like that without knowing exactly what they are doing. That's a lot of work, precise work at that. Each video, never ceases to amaze.

  • @simidhel
    @simidhel Před 4 lety +4

    My dad always called his hammer(s) a 'persuasion tool' and watching you ease each spoke into place, a bit at a time, seems to very much be a persuasion process and is a joy to watch.

  • @scottpecora371
    @scottpecora371 Před 4 lety +2

    Awesome demonstration of the process. It really emphasizes how it's a matter of dozens of little steps. Each one nudging things a step closer till the last piece finally slips in and fits! And having the right tools! Thanks Dave. No reply necessary, your time is valuable, just know your appreciated

  • @72polara
    @72polara Před 4 lety +2

    Watching that large wheel come together really shows the stresses that provide the strength, then compress it all with the tire. I see why these wood wheels can take beating no matter if on a wagon or early truck. I guess this is why trucks stayed with wood wheels for so long in the early days.

    • @MyOLD36chevy
      @MyOLD36chevy Před 4 lety

      How long did the cars have steel wheels before trucks?

  • @ellisc.foleyjr9778
    @ellisc.foleyjr9778 Před 3 lety

    As with any craft, its not "if you are going to make mistakes, its how well you correct them". one of the things I love about watching your video's Dave , are all the neat "corrective, and installation tools that have been made and designed to do the task at hand. The spreader, the spoke puller, and so on. those are some of the things I look for in each of your projects. to see what ingenuity was used in the past that is still relevant today. Thanks for the explanations, and the videos and best of all for sharing.

  • @delcat8168
    @delcat8168 Před 4 lety +1

    I hate the term "expert"... if I have to define it I say it's the man who can put right his own mistakes! Nice to see you post this... I pride myself on showing my work warts n all, as it's the mistakes that teach us.
    BTW. That measuring wheel is beautiful :-)

  • @jamesfletcher279
    @jamesfletcher279 Před 4 lety +10

    I make heavy cart wheels here in the uk and I would use 6 fellies to make the wheel up but next time I'll try doing it like you

  • @larrymazzuca1313
    @larrymazzuca1313 Před 4 lety +1

    Once again , you have entertained and educated !! You are an amazing craftsman !! Thank you for allowing me to visit with you every week !!!!

  • @seppa6417
    @seppa6417 Před 4 lety +2

    I was taught by a man whose trade was mensuration to try to take all your measurements, whenever possible, from one single starting point to help eliminate cumulative error.

  • @rodneywroten2994
    @rodneywroten2994 Před 4 lety +2

    You are just proving you are only human when you make mistakes. I sure would not have caught it. thanks for sharing

  • @joenet42567
    @joenet42567 Před 4 lety +2

    Wonderful photos of the beautiful land. I never had a problem working with angels. Hated working with curves. Wagons have plenty. God bless you and keep up the good work.

    • @banjopete
      @banjopete Před 4 lety

      joenet42567 , no one has a problem working with angels, angles are a different matter!

    • @richardyoung4616
      @richardyoung4616 Před 4 lety

      I've always had a problem working with angels!

    • @joenet42567
      @joenet42567 Před 4 lety

      Why did you feel that you should reply to my comment? I don't think I said anything wrong. Weather what I said was obvious or not doesn't really matter.

    • @joenet42567
      @joenet42567 Před 4 lety

      Ok angles. Are you happy now?

    • @raycarnis9540
      @raycarnis9540 Před 4 lety

      Engels is how a quite posh Englishman would say angles..(I wrote angels there as well till I corrected it)

  • @PaulWoodJatobaFilms
    @PaulWoodJatobaFilms Před 4 lety +1

    What I always find amazing is that the years of accumulated experience and knowledge of the materials has allowed these crafts to continue under apprenticeship schemes - what happens now is another matter, of course, but I’m just getting old! Thanks Dave, for another great lesson!

  • @Eisen_Jaeger
    @Eisen_Jaeger Před 4 lety +8

    You know, my Great Uncle once told me to go find a wheel stretcher. Finally found one.

  • @patrickhotra9241
    @patrickhotra9241 Před 4 lety +2

    It's fascinating to watch a process that I didn't know still existed. It appears that a lot of stress is introduced when pulling all of the parts together. Do they relax over time and settle in or do they fight each other until the stresses find a weak spot?

  • @paulstanding7267
    @paulstanding7267 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for sharing this video and for showing us even as all the years you have been making/repairing wheels you two can make mistakes after all that is what makes use human and thank you for another great vlog 😀😀👍👍

    • @paulstanding7267
      @paulstanding7267 Před 4 lety

      Thank you for your kind reply I have learnt so much from watching your videos without them I would probably never would of seen anything like this keep them coming thank you again for showing your vast skills 👍👍😀

  • @asciimation
    @asciimation Před 8 měsíci

    I was going to ask a question about this on your latest video (4 years on from this!) but figured you had probably already answered it and here it is. You can only assemble these because the wood is springy I guess. If the spokes and felloe couldn't bend you would never be able to assemble them together like this. It would be a mechanical impossibility. Your stretching bar on the thicker wheel makes that really easy to see.

  • @hotdrippyglass
    @hotdrippyglass Před 4 lety

    You really could teach film making as well as wheel making with the way you stop and reposition the camera especially when you are making a point about the the way tasks are accomplished. Thanks again for your efforts to share your many skills in the shop.

  •  Před 4 lety +2

    Everyone makes mistakes, but only the knowledgeable can recover from it. That is what separates professionals from amateurs.

  • @nj40100
    @nj40100 Před 4 lety +1

    As always a pleasure to watch a craftsman at work and listen to your calm explanation! Thank you.

  • @petepeterson4540
    @petepeterson4540 Před 4 lety +5

    kind of like driving a square peg in a round hole you make it look easy my man.

  • @cliveclapham6451
    @cliveclapham6451 Před 4 lety +1

    Totally awesome😎😎😎 as always.
    No one going to take the spoke out of your wheel🤭
    I got it way back how the fellows and spokes had to be manipulated. Whilst not the same sort like replacing bike wheel spokes, you manipulate the spoke length via turning the nipple to accommodate the fixed rim diameter. Always been slightly surprised if using a calculator to use 3.142 and round the result their, not a criticism at all just a bit surprising. Hay ho another excellent day's learning at Mr Engles Coach Shop.
    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @tonyn3123
    @tonyn3123 Před 3 lety

    I so appreciate the craftsmanship I see with every video upload. The specialized tools are absolutely amazing to see. Regardless of the situation, he comes out with a tool to resolve any issue. Decades of trial and error went into developing the tools and procedures he uses. I would appreciate the history of the specialized tool development, at least from the standpoint of his shop! Can you provide this Dave in a future video? Of if I have missed this information, post the link again?
    I am so glad he is doing this series so if/when the need arises, someone can fill his shoes. Automated machines aren't always the answer. Thank you.

  • @cermem
    @cermem Před 4 lety +2

    amazing your ingenuity building and adapting tools and fixtures for your trade

  • @imtimrich
    @imtimrich Před 4 lety +2

    Besides being a great craftsman, your a great tool builder. Love the way you work

  • @jasonmethot9573
    @jasonmethot9573 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Sir for your craftsmanship.
    You set the bar mighty high!

  • @randlayman2668
    @randlayman2668 Před 4 lety

    Very much a dance of brute force and finesse to fit the components together.

  • @esseelettronica8507
    @esseelettronica8507 Před 4 lety +2

    Good morning Mr Dave, a Sicilian proverb reads. Those who eat bread make breadcrumbs.
    a Greeting from Catania

  • @Jameson4327
    @Jameson4327 Před 4 lety +4

    It takes a great man a met you made a mistake. This is why I enjoy watching your videos.

  • @tomtruesdale6901
    @tomtruesdale6901 Před 4 lety +1

    An other great video from a Master. I enjoy watching you make the wood do what you want it to do.

  • @messerist
    @messerist Před 4 lety +1

    Such a treat watching your skill at work. Every Friday is like Christmas morning! Thank you.

  • @kimmy_future4265
    @kimmy_future4265 Před 4 lety

    It's so amazing how many different skill sets are needed to do this kind of work. Woodworker, blacksmith, tool maker, painter, mathematician, upholsterer, fitness instructor, physicist, and so on. Keep up the amazingness!

  • @prismaticspiral
    @prismaticspiral Před 4 lety +11

    At a metric system user, I'm amazed at the way you calculate in inches and decimals and then convert back into fractions.

    • @Dog.soldier1950
      @Dog.soldier1950 Před 4 lety +3

      Don’t believe it. The typical American has not the foggiest idea of metric

    • @chrismoody1342
      @chrismoody1342 Před 4 lety +1

      You Metric users are always dogging us imperial users. Well some of us can function using metric, imperial and decimal. We aren’t all stupid.

    • @johnbower
      @johnbower Před 4 lety

      @@chrismoody1342 No you are not stupid, but anyone using imperial has to put their brain into overdrive to get the accuracy of those using metric :(

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 Před 4 lety +1

    Unbelievable, it’s good you caught it when you did and was able to continue. You did great. Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @duanelundgren7985
    @duanelundgren7985 Před 4 lety

    Mr. Dave, when it comes to mistakes, you have no idea how well you would fit in, pretty normal-like, in my little garage!! :-) :-) Distance errors, are, indeed cumulative!! (Sort of like an old saying I heard... Friends Come and Go, but Enemies Accumulate!) Great video, Thank You!!!!

  • @stevenhughes764
    @stevenhughes764 Před 4 lety +1

    I’m grateful for the additional explanation

  • @danielduncan4420
    @danielduncan4420 Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you Mr Engels..... as always i enjoy the videos on Friday. I always like to say that mistakes are there to slow us down and remind us too check it twice. Lol.... keep up diligent steady work. God bless you and enjoy your weekend. 👍👌😎

  • @ronwhite6719
    @ronwhite6719 Před 4 lety +2

    Another great math lesson Dave. Thank you for sharing, measure twice cut once.

  • @zaqueuoliveiraalmeida8810

    Good night, I'm from Brazil and I love to watch your videos ... your work is amazing .... in the past I've worked with woodwork, metallurgy and I'm delighted with the whim you have with your work. I do not speak English I am using the translator and hope you understand, my congratulations! Good luck!

  • @lancerussell666
    @lancerussell666 Před 4 lety +1

    I still always enjoy watching your videos and seeing your hand made tools and how you use them thanks for sharing your knowledge

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 Před 4 lety

    Thanks again for another educational and entertaining video. We often mention that you make it look so easy but this video illustrates just how much effort goes into just one facet of your craft. This makes me miss my grandfather the carpenter and craftsman that much more. He did a lot of the work you do but on a smaller scale. Thank you for sharing.

  • @rcdogmanduh4440
    @rcdogmanduh4440 Před 4 lety +3

    Raise your hand if you want to make a wheel? Not two not four just one! I keep telling myself I don't need one but I can't resist a puzzle no matter the form!

  • @joelrdizon
    @joelrdizon Před 4 lety

    Aaaaah...! that satisfying feeling of seeing a spoke peg slip into that hole in the felloe...I could watch this all day.

  • @dirk4926
    @dirk4926 Před 4 lety +4

    I was happy to see this video pop into my feed. In the three or four weeks since I found your channel, it's become one of my favorites. Great content, thank you so much for sharing your work and your methods with us.

  • @larryshaw796
    @larryshaw796 Před 4 lety +3

    You're right it did not look like that last spoke was gonna make it to the wheel let alone actually make it to the hole that I very cool.as usual a very quick show . Thank you I wish I were young enough to take up an apprenticeship with you.

  • @SiamWoodShop
    @SiamWoodShop Před 4 lety +18

    Great video, and explanation. Thanks for sharing

  • @tedfarwell9812
    @tedfarwell9812 Před 4 lety +1

    You just know that using the c-clamps to hold down both of the spreader bar ends before starting to hammer comes from having at least one end come loose some time or the other. Thanks for the great video and explanation as always.

    • @tedfarwell9812
      @tedfarwell9812 Před 4 lety +1

      EngelsCoachShop
      Done something similar myself, that’s why I recognized it right away.

  • @robertalexander9931
    @robertalexander9931 Před 4 lety +1

    I should have known you could do it. You are amazing. Thanks for sharing. Love the videos.

  • @brownmilligan1936
    @brownmilligan1936 Před 4 lety +2

    thanks for a good show. makes my day. hope to see you next week.

  • @gordbaker896
    @gordbaker896 Před 4 lety +1

    Just amazing. Wood is such a versatile raw material. I tried to count the Hammer blows. Lost track of 'em.

  • @zorrosish
    @zorrosish Před 4 lety +4

    Sir, you and your craft are AMAZING!......Thank You , Great Videos!

  • @jdcamc
    @jdcamc Před 4 lety +4

    Love watching your craftsmanship - thanks for sharing another great video, Dave!

  • @barryhansen6854
    @barryhansen6854 Před 4 lety +2

    Well done showing how the wheels are assembled enjoyed the video this come up in my feeds now new sub

  • @williamjacobs236
    @williamjacobs236 Před 4 lety +1

    Another great video .
    Thanks for posting it .

  • @steveadams99708
    @steveadams99708 Před 4 lety

    Great video and explanation. Love to watch you work!

  • @ruperthartop7202
    @ruperthartop7202 Před 4 lety +1

    Always enjoy your videos. Many thanks for sharing

  • @wasserman63
    @wasserman63 Před 4 lety +1

    again impressiv workmanship. have great weekend Mr Engels

  • @TimNevins
    @TimNevins Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent show! Your craftsmanship is astonishing!

  • @bertbergers9171
    @bertbergers9171 Před 4 lety

    Mr engels, you have patience, skill, finesse, lots of tools and a big hammer (even more then one) and you occasionally play with fire, why aren't there ten young men working with you to be thaught the trade?
    You have to work hard, but in my opinion you have a dream job!

  • @hopeter7648
    @hopeter7648 Před 4 lety +1

    The highlight of my Saturday morning is watching your amazing videos , thank you..!..!..!

  • @zweg1321
    @zweg1321 Před 4 lety +7

    As always I learned something new watching your videos
    Thanks

  • @ROLANDO72510
    @ROLANDO72510 Před 4 lety +5

    Amazing work from an AMAZING ARTIST.Thanks for the great work

  • @ericzimmerman7524
    @ericzimmerman7524 Před 4 lety +1

    It is always a pleasure to watch your process, sir. Thank you again.

  • @minbannister3625
    @minbannister3625 Před 3 lety

    Concentric circles and straight lines radiating from the centre point. For a moment there I felt like a square peg in a round hole.

  • @pauls4708
    @pauls4708 Před 4 lety +2

    so was the initial calculation error a arithmetic one or some subtle difference in an "arc" error.Its hard enough just dealing in horizontal vs slope ,plumb vs perpendicular(rafters and such) .I sometimes have to deal with arcs,radii and chords when we have curved roofs

  • @fiorevitola880
    @fiorevitola880 Před 4 lety +3

    I have two wagon hubs that were from old wagon wheels since decayed and would like them made new wheels again. Can I send them to you for restoration? If so, how do I go about contacting you? Thank you for being here to show us your great work.

  • @raymondhorvatin1050
    @raymondhorvatin1050 Před 4 lety +3

    Fantastic video you are sure right about the carpenter and his mistakes

  • @donstagg2364
    @donstagg2364 Před 4 lety +1

    Absolutely fascinating

  • @TheNormndee
    @TheNormndee Před 4 lety +1

    As always...great work!

  • @arnhemseptember2009
    @arnhemseptember2009 Před 4 lety +1

    Great spreader. Never seen before.

  • @deburgemeestervanhespedam3314

    great job !!

  • @warrencraig6948
    @warrencraig6948 Před 4 lety +3

    thought i had lost you, such a pieasure to watch you ''TO GET ER DONE " another great and interesting video thank you

  • @olivei2484
    @olivei2484 Před 4 lety

    Recommend you run your final number back through the calculation to verify your starting number. Good way to check quickly if you messed up before all the work.

  • @monsteroz1
    @monsteroz1 Před 4 lety +1

    Another great video .. thanks..

  • @franciscojosedegrandis9049

    Diretamente de São Paulo - Brasil. Good job Mr. Engel. Congratulations.

  • @shane8037
    @shane8037 Před 4 lety +11

    I know some heavy felloes. A few of them are real good guys.

  • @RosaStringWorks
    @RosaStringWorks Před 4 lety +1

    Nice job.

  • @alvanelmarcos1369
    @alvanelmarcos1369 Před 4 lety +2

    Sensacional as técnicas e ferramentas antigas que você usa, mantendo a tradição da fabricação das carruagens... Impressionante.

  • @marcosvanoliver640
    @marcosvanoliver640 Před 4 lety +1

    Mestre.....the best.

  • @scotta3906
    @scotta3906 Před 4 lety +2

    Just amazing

  • @marlinkojak9882
    @marlinkojak9882 Před 2 lety

    sure glad i am just enjoying watching you only you lost me all the way with numbers thanks dave

  • @davidg5369
    @davidg5369 Před 4 lety +2

    Know how vs No How!

  • @GreatPlainsCraftsman
    @GreatPlainsCraftsman Před 4 lety +1

    Hey Dave. Looks a little touchy but I would definitely like to learn !

  • @jcs6347
    @jcs6347 Před 4 lety +1

    How do you connect the fellows? or does the tire hold them in place when you install it? Thanks for sharing!

  • @davidgorringe
    @davidgorringe Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for the explanation, question ! would it help if you wax lubricated the end of the spokes to help them slide in the rim ?. I really look forward to seeing your videos many thanks for your patience in explaining your process. Best wishes from south Devon in the uk

  • @gerry343
    @gerry343 Před 4 lety +2

    What determines whether you use multiple felloes or just two bent semi-circles?

  • @bobjoncas2814
    @bobjoncas2814 Před 4 lety +2

    ...great info. nice vid...

  • @gerardjohnson2106
    @gerardjohnson2106 Před 4 lety +1

    I think about "hammer tracks" of that peening hammer especially on the spokes. Seems a rawhide or urethane mallet would leave slighter tracks. But then it wouldn't have the bounce for short stroke tap-tap of the "blacksmith arm".

    • @bmedicky
      @bmedicky Před 4 lety

      When the tires are hot-set, the steam and moisture from hosing down the hot tire bands will probably swell those dents right back out again.

  • @bugzie-a1769
    @bugzie-a1769 Před 4 lety +1

    Tops, thank you

  • @smasica
    @smasica Před 4 lety +1

    Would it help at all getting the felloes on to use a bit of bee's wax on the spoke tenons? Or would it cause problems later?

  • @redsky8509
    @redsky8509 Před 4 lety +1

    amazing

  • @brw3079
    @brw3079 Před 4 lety +1

    Once again I am disappointed that it's over already. Can't wait for next week.
    About cumulative error, I heard a story once about the head boss of a building construction crew who got fired for a ¼ inch mistake. If it had been allowed to continue, the building would have fallen over.