Why Count Dooku Was WAY WORSE Than You Realize
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The way I see it, Tales of The Jedi just gave context to Dooku's fall. As with many Fallen Jedi before him, he started flirting with The Dark Side with the purest of intentions. But, as The Darkside always does, he was gradually corrupted and twisted until he became the very thing he originally set out to stop. Vader was a prisioner of fate from the begining of his life to the end but Dooku was a prime example of "The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions."
I don’t know if there’s any better way to put it
That context was there for decades in the EU comics. But I'm glad to see most of the new fans will finally understand his character a bit more. Albeit a more toned down version.
Also, allow me to praise you for acknowledging that he was evil. I'm so tired of many fans trying to pretend that villains are not villains simply because they had good intentions at some point.
People need to remember that good guys and bad guys is the status quo, not all characters are in the middle.
Well said. His episodes were my favorite in tales of the Jedi.
Losing Qui Gon, and watching his home world get slaughtered because of the council’s negligence is what truly twisted him. Ultimately Anakin would fall under similar circumstances.
If you call Vader "a prisoner of his own fate" then you must say the same for Dooku... that 1 statement, makes you contradict yourself. Fate is fate. If you believe in fate, then everyone is simply doing what fate dictates.
Dooku's arc reminds me of the sith teacher from KOTOR who said she joined the sith in order to gain power to help her homeworld. She then says that the dark side corrupts you and makes you forget why you joined in the first place and if you remember, you no longer care.
The sith teacher is a Jedi librarian like artis is the Visas Marr was a female Miraluka Jedi, first an apprentice to Darth Nihilus, and then later, to the Jedi Exile. Visas was the only survivor of an attack on Katarr by Darth Nihilus, she did it for her planet so just correcting u
@@starwarsfannumber It's hard to make out what you are trying to say, but I'm pretty sure he was actually referring to Yuthura Ban, the twilek teacher in the Sith academy on Korriban.
If you manage to turn her back to the light, she tells you that she sought to become Sith in order to put a stop to the galactic slave trade, but then she became too caught up in Sith backstabbery to do anything about it.
@@adriank4721 no kreia was a jedi librarian
@@starwarsfannumber True, but I don't think anyone is talking about Kreia.
Her story blew me, the fact she said at one point she was so consumed with gaining power she damnear forgot her original intention, later on Ajunta pau couldn't even remember why they were fighting in the first place.
We also can't forget the vision that Dooku had for the Empire once the war was over. In the Revenge of the Sith novelization, he muses over the state the galaxy will be in once he and Sidious have brought the Empire into being. By that point, Dooku had become a believer in the concept of human high culture and supremacy and wished to see the other races of the galaxy stripped of everything of value, and that they existed as nothing more than slaves to the new Empire, and the Sith Army that he intended to build.
Dooku was perhaps even more vile than Anakin . But unlike Anakin he never showed it directly
I usually like the novelization but that was definitely added to justify Anakin’s murder of Dooku from someone who didn’t understand what Dooku’s character actually was designed to be
This was always something that made me depise dooku. In the end he was just a petty hypocritical bigot. All the veneer of nobility and higher ideals were just a smoke screen the hide the real man
@@boomer310 are you certain about that? The hatred that Dooku held for most as a Sith, and the twisting of his original ideas of a galaxy free from corruption can easily be twisted by the Dark Side. Dooku’s manipulation of prominent alien species was a direct effort on both his and Palpatine’s part to demonise aliens as the face of separatism and make High Human Culture much easier to accept. His hatred of Grievous and even his willingness and ruthlessness in attempting to destroy Ventress (a near human) show that he was entirely in line with the bigotry that he had developed while having been a Sith Lord and it showed the characteristic hatred, cruelty and short-sightedness that the Dark Side brought about to everyone, including Palpatine, who hated everyone and arrogantly held everyone in contempt, being unable to see his own downfall.
@@masonharvath-gerrans832 So he became a bigot? Despite being raised 24/7 with aliens since a young age?
I think Yaddle's murder maybe the worst thing Dooku did as his protecting Sidious' identity allowed Sidious to commit just about every post Clone Wars atrocity he would go onto do.
I think legends yaddle death is much more significant and a more impactful overall to Anakin's fall. Not s fan of what Disney thinks happened.
@@mrdevindean1 I won't argue it's impact towards Anakin's fall, but the butterfly affect that canon's version of Yaddle's death was much more prominent as it's speculated she saw Palpatine's face, if she had escaped the two Sith Yaddle could of very well saved the Republic and Jedi, instead she spent her last moments doing what any Jedi should of done and tried to convince Dooku it wasn't too late, and that there was a better more peaceful alternative
Inadvertently he's responsible for qui gons death if we go by tales cause clearly he was working with the sith before his death
Legends was better, in that qui gons death was the turning point. Not before.
@@mrdevindean1 I won't debate that I like the legends version as well I'ma just say the canon version isn't that bad it shows him deleting kamino and what not
I don’t doubt how evil Dooku became, however he went on the road of good intentions. He was then manipulated by sidious as that’s what sidious does, but I think the death of Qui Gon Jinn sent him over the edge as he put the blame of that on the Jedi.
The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions.
One of my all time favorit Star Wars characters
Mine too
Yup. For whatever reason I'm always drawn to the sith/darkside characters. dooku, grievous, maul, savage, talzin etc. they just seem badass lol.
Liked movie Dooku more than strong headed Anakin. His death was uncinimatic. He deserved better!😡😠
I’ve thought Rey was more Sith than Dooku because she uses anger and rage as her power while Dooku is not a passionate fighter and did not fight for revenge or passion as Obi Wan and Anakin went after and attacked Dooku first and he was defending himself. After reading this it shows how evil Dooku really was and why he is rightfully labelled Darth Tyrannus.
I still think Rey is more Sith, and her story after would make that idea pretty realistic.
When you actually think about it you're right. Nothing jedi like about rey. She fights with emotions, uses force lightning. She's very much a dark jedi at most
Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus is more of a Dark Jedi than Sith. Rey is neither Jedi nor Sith. She's something else. She's a Force User. You could argue Dark Jedi though.
Rey is not star wars
@@mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426 Indeed.
All true, very good points. Just like politicians, dooku started out with the best intentions at heart. But like you said, he was corrupted by the dark side. Ironic how Dooku & Ahsoka are closely related (Jedi training-wise), both left the Jedi Order BUT turned out so opposite to each other. It's kinda sad that dooku's goodness was manipulated by palpatine/sidious, he actually thought the dark side was his only hope to change the galaxy for the better💔😣😣😣
A bit of a bold statement to say politicians start out with good intentions.. lol
@@ClaytonBigsby93 ikr politicians are untrustworthy unless u got politicians with pure hearts like Padme and bail and mon
Some leaders are good till the end. Not many though.
I think this is a good video to remind everyone of what Dooku is responsible for. While yes the character should be reevaluated in the wake of Tales of the Jedi, we can't forget that he is ultimately a villain of the franchise. Dooku is not a good person, but you can sympathize with how his journey through life led him to become Darth Tyranus.
You really cant sympathise. To leave the order yes, but anything beyond that not. Creating a allegiance with a sith lord, contributing the war and killing his old comrades is nothing, but evil.
@@ketamineheadyoda2248 I agree. When I say sympathize, I mean that the Republic was a flawed system and its dynamic with the Jedi Order meant that Dooku very rarely felt like he could make a lasting difference as a Jedi. That feeling is something that a lot of people can relate to in their own careers today. However, his frustrations and concerns turned into something worse. The scene where Yaddle tries to reason with Dooku is actually very important. Were Dooku still reasonable, he would have understood that he had gone too far and returned to the light, even if it meant his imprisonment or exile. Dooku of course does not do this, revealing he is too far gone.
That being said, I think Yaddle is really important to that final episode as a foil to Dooku. Yaddle is proof, or at least the implication, that the Order could be salvaged, with her interpretation of the events of the Phantom Menace leading her to realize that Dooku's fears were justified, and that Qui Gon's death could have easily been avoided. She leaves the council in protest of these mistakes. Were it not for her death, her presence in the order may have continued to push her peers into realizing they had lost their way. She also recognizes that Dooku is deeply hurt, and tries to reach out to save him. Unfortunately, much like the audience, Yaddle was surprised to learn that Dooku had long since made the decision to join the Sith.
@Colress Wesker, lol, oddly enough, the two things I’m playing right now are Pokémon and Resident Evil. 😂
There's also the possibility that Duko planned to overthrow Palpatine. You know how them sith be. No telling his true agenda.
While dooku was evil by the end of the clone wars, i'd say that trying to kill a hutt, before it grew and could inflict pain on thousands, through slavery, murder and crime in general, would have been a favor to the galaxy. Meanwhile the nightsisters were a darkside cult, who subjugated the nightbrothers. Those 2 acts were not as evil as one might first think.
Dooku is interesting as a sith because unlike some Jedi, dooku does not use anger. He is an immensely technical fighter, he is cold and calculating, and despite gloating and scathing remarks while he fights, he doesn’t strike with anger. Despite all of that he is much much more evil than I thought from the films into the animation. In the film I thought dooku was just a pawn who was wronged by his master, I thought he had a good point and that he had reason to leave the order. Then you see what he does in the animation and it gets so much worse.
He had a good point but was too arrogant to realize how corrupting the darkside is . He thought he was stronger than this but he wasn’t.
Same with Anakin .
It is showing how dangerous the darkside truly is and that Luke was truly standing at the brink of the abyss when he almost killed Vader .
@@stormbringer2840 Luke was unequivocally stronger than Anakin as a Jedi who truly tapped into the dark side for small moments without getting lost in it. Yoda tried it as well and dark side yoda was utterly horrifying, so much so that it scared dooku to the core in legends. He urged yoda to tap into the dark in a fight with him and when yoda did, dooku fucking dipped. Yoda was such a chad that he went dark side for a little bit just to prove a point.
@@upsidedownpyramid7617 dooku is like vader in esb.
This isnt necessarily true. He choked the life out of several politicians in rage. He also uses rage when he spams lightning or chokes people. Compared to Vader and Maul he doesn't use rage.
@@ketamineheadyoda2248 Vader was more brutal, he regularly choked out incompetent officers
If I remember correctly from reading Darth Plageuis a few years back. Dooku & Sidious were both originally from Royal or extremely wealthy families. Sidious had common ground with Dooku with this, sought him out to turn him and knew that they would make a like-minded combo that could shape the galaxy like he envisioned. Sidious was right, and he used Dooku to do do...until he found a more powerful apprentice in Anakin. Sidious and Dooku had a little too much in common & there can only be one Master
Plus Dooku had a bucket of money Sidious could use to build up the Separatist threat.
Tyranus...he lived up to the tyrant label perfectly.
Vader, he invaded the galaxy and became a jedi in the end. o_O
That's my boy. I knew he had great potential in him. Movies not do him justice.
You canmot compare Dooku to Bane, first of all Dooku was servant not Master as Bame was, secondly Bane manipulated the Brotherhood into endless torment, he held a child over a boiling pot and was fully willing to plunge her into it. Bane was on a level beyond Dooku
Dooku was also willing to enslave children and put them into labor camps. I don't think there is a scale to who is worse because at that point the amount cruelty they inflicted is beyond any redeeming quality
Dooku stands out as a sympathetic portrayal of evil, in a series where many villains are inhuman caricatures of evil. He has motives one can understand even while reviling his actions, instead of being evil for it's own sake.
I think that's more Darth Vader than Dooku if I'm fair. But I can definitely see how you can apply it to Dooku too
Jet still finishing off the knight sisters was an act of pure vigilanty. 👌 Benefiting the galaxy for generations
For anyone who thinks Dooku isn’t evil you need to read Dark Disciple. The beginning is just really dark, and it of course involves Count Dooku.
Yeah sad he became evil
This. Dark Disciple is probably the best SW Novel there is right now. Not even for showing off Doku as the bad guy he is but because it shows how Ventress was brought to the dark side (and ultimately escapes from it). Her Story is imo the best "redemption Arc" SW has to offer (set aside EU Stuff, Revan comes to mind immediately)
He truly was fallen, though I wonder how much of it was Sidious pulling the strings, either by directly ordering him or by nudging him more towards dark side
Lol
I'm just glad that the great Christopher Lee played Dooku in live action, then used in animation.
i know i say this over and over again but if dooku had stayed could he have been battle master instead of cin dralig yes or no also i saw tales of jedi mace windu and dooku working together that was awesome
I personally don't think Dooku would be battle master or training others in the art of swordsmanship. Only because Cin Drallig has expertise in all seven forms and Dooku only in form two. However Dooku would indeed be the one of the best if not the best duelist in the Jedi order.
Dooku would be a great grandmaster.
Dooku definitely had a significant amount of light in him probably throughout his life. I mean most of what was mentioned here Dooku only indirectly assisted all done while being under the ruthless and unforgiving Darth Sidious.
Sounds to me like Dooku rightfully earned his title as Darth Tyrannus, he seems to be more of a Sith Lord than Vader ever was.
Oh heck no
There is the thought that of Sidious' apprentices Dooku was by far the most useful and the closest thing to a peer Sidious had. Maul and Vader were never treated with the level of respect, or given the responsibility, that Sidious gave Dooku. Sidious always had to kill Dooku because he was way too much of a threat to him both politically and as a Force user. But Vader and Maul? Zero chance of them ever becoming peers or rivals beyond the immediate threat, which was minimal to be honest. Maul was too weak, and Vader too crippled. Sidious never truly feared either... but he DID fear Dooku's Force abilities to an extent.
@@ketamineheadyoda2248 In a traditinal sense he is right. The ancient Sith Master and Apprentice dynamic was more closer to what Sidious and Dooku had rather than Sidious and Vader/Maul. Vader and Maul were treated more as enforcers by Sidious, not partners. Only pre-Mustafar Vader was seen as a true student and peer in training by Sidious. Afterward, Sidious' use for Vader was limited. Contrast this with how Sidious treated Dooku. Sidious only ever touched Dooku once with the Force. In contrast he routinely punished Maul and even Vader with the Force. Dooku was treated with far more respect, and given far more of an equal role in the Grand Plan. Sidious never gave Vader anywhere near the power he gave Dooku.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 I think there's more to it. Firstly, Maul was still at a very very early stage in his Sith Apprenticeship, and was still learning from Darth Sidious in Episode 1, however Sidious did consider Maul to be a true apprentice and his successor, but this was literally cut short by Kenobi. Regarding Vader, again Sidious clearly intended to make Vader his successor, but once again Kenobi thwarted his plans by crippling Vader, so Sidious at that point just accepted that no one can truly succeed him, and therefore should not threat Vader with respect.
Little by little, he ceased to be Count Dooku and became Darth Tyranus. When that happened, the good man who was once Yoda’s friend was destroyed.
Have you ever heard that the "road to Hell is paved with good intentions"? This shows it, by what Count Dooku intended and what happened to him by being twisted by the dark side. You can never just stick a foot into the dark side without being back lashed.
When you say "without being back lashed" did you just mean in general? Or are you specifically calling out stupendium wave?
@@user-nm1lx8qb3u In this case, just by even going into the dark side even with pure motives, it can be corrupted Unless you have protection, or help, you can easily be undermined. As for in general, it could happen as well. It depends on the situation.
Dark side is extremely difficult to resist and utilize correctly. It warps it's users into sociopathic, genocidal maniacs on a power trip.
Although it may be considered an "umbrella" of actions, helping to engineer the Clone Wars in and of itself was probably one of the worst things he did.
He should have survived revenge of the sith
Don't condemn Dooku .
You can't build a Empire without destroying a few planets .
Man I have a movie for you
Well after watching this vid, The death that Dooku got was a mercy compared to what he actually deserved.
He did more than this. Alderan has a population of 2 billion. He also had a CIS fleet commit genocide and wipe out a civilization at the beginning of Son of Dathomir. He probably did more things between Episode 1 and 2 that just aren't mentioned. He had planted a bomb which crippled Grievous then gave him a new robot body and made him his slave. That's right, Dooku is the reason Grievous is a cyborg but the General doesn't even know.
As TCW showed you, he killed a bunch of political figures and leaders who refused to join him. And that's just what we saw when he ran into Obi Wan, Anakin, Yoda, Padme, imagine how many other political leaders he killed or attempted to kill when they weren't Around. He used Ventress as an assassin so she probably killed plenty of political leaders herself. He might have even killed CIS deviants, deserters, and defectors between Episode 1 and 3.
Obviously after Maul "died" Dooku was the one who would be sent to kill people who wanted to leak information. Especially, before he acquired Grievous, Ventress, Jango Fett, and others as henchmen/henchwomen.
One wonders what Dooku could have achieved without Sidious twisting him. Could he have become the ultimate grey Jedi, able to control both sides of the Force? Could he have established a Jedi order of his own? Would Qui-Gon join him? What of after Qui-Gon's death? We know Rael Averross declined to accept Dooku's invitation after the events of Master & Apprentice. But, Averross was very close to saying yes. It is hard to see how Averross would have stayed with the Jedi after Qui-Gon's death. Dooku might have attracted a number of Jedi to him. Yaddle herself was already doubting the Council before TPM. Non-Sith Dooku would have been able to farm some fertile ground.
Thank you for making this video! People like how Dooku was disillusioned with the Jedi but forget or are ignorant to the fact he became pure evil. I.E "Atrocity on Mahranee". Great video.
This video exists because people have been going around saying Dooku wasn’t really a Sith.
Great video. Great points. They need to stop trying to rationalize/humanize his turn to the dark side. As a Jedi Knight, he MUST have known the evil and corruption that happens to those that join the Sith. Leave the order and become a freedom fighter. Fine. But to join the Sith then commit these atrocities?! Pathetic. A shell of a being. Anakin did Dooku (and the galaxy) a favor with the scissor lightsaber move.
Yeah but Anakin wasn’t any better by this logic. Sure he lost his pure intentions after becoming a Sith but he still did this for greater good (at least in the beggining before he was corupted by the dark side himself just like Anakin), the problem was Sidious, he would Honestly changed the galaxy for the better in my opinion if he left the order and didn’t join the Sith, but saying that decapitate him was the best way for his character to die is stupid and makes you pathetic.
@@cisarvitiate6142 Wow. You could have just made your points; you certainly didn’t have to make it personal and call me pathetic. One could argue that you getting upset over my throw away CZcams comment on a random Star Wars video is pathetic, but I won’t because I’m classy like that.
I always liked Dooku and always felt that he was good. I think it would be really cool if, after he is defeated by Anakin that he could come back as Darth Traya. There will always be a Darth Traya, one is betrayed and will betray in turn.
So it occurs to me that sidious would have no way to know whether order 66 would actually work except to have captured a clone and issued the order. You’d think with the paranoia the sith have about being killed by their apprentice sidious wouldn’t just trust dooku.
Would be an interesting story.
There's an old saying "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
I wan to show this video as evidence to anyone in the fandom who still doesn’t believe Dooku isn’t truly evil.
All I have to say is that if ,Obi-Wan is the model Jedi than Lord Tyranus is the model Sith.
Don't forget that Dooku was a Human Supremacists and envisioned the Galactic Empire of Human instead of Alien. It was no mistake that the whole Separatists council was made up of non-humans and Dooku was that reasoning.
So when Dooku commits genocide it is evil but when the Jedi commit genocide on my people it is praised? What are these double standards?
Didn’t you commit genocide on your people?
@@firstnamelastname9237 I consume planets and wouldn't consider that genocide.
@@Bernie4life4182 No, but they might
@@firstnamelastname9237 Maybe but everybody on Zakuul loves me.
@@Bernie4life4182 An disturbingly successful and…good achievement.
Dooku is a misunderstood character. From what I understand, he planned to use the Sith only as a way to become more powerful, and eventually restore political order in the galaxy.
His plan was to become a “righteous tyrant” (as he indeed was in his home planet Serenno). But he was outsmarted by Palpatine so he failed.
His evil actions were only seen by him as “terrible means to a more noble end”.
Dooku did what he thought was necessary and took the necessary steps.
Do a video was Anakin Skywalker’s turn to the dark side was meant to happen to bring the force into balance
He did bring balance to the force in the end
Actually the duel between Anakin and Dooku ended, when Anakin kicked Dooku and sent him rolling on the ground in The Clone Wars movie.
I definitely think Count Dooku was an underrated villain in Star Wars. I wish we had gotten to see more of him in the movies and to a degree in the Clone Wars Animated Series. He's just such a good villain and he does not get the praise and recognition for that.
Nice to hear u again Master
Dooku defenetly still is one of the most sympathetic Sith Lords or “evil” characters today, his intentions were good in some way but the exectution was not (something that I really love about Avatar Legends of Korra villains, yes they are evil and do bad things but they truely want it for “greater good” even if the execution of their plans are defenetly not the best way, they are not evil becose they like it or becose they want more power they just chose bad way of doing what is right). Dooku started as someone who wanted a better galaxy without corruption but of course nobody is imune to the dark side and what Once was sacrifice for greater good turned into evil very quickly and although he still wasn’t corupted by the dark side as much as other Sith Lords he still lost his noble pure intentions for the Sith Grand plan.
I think Dooku, like Vader, was a man with principles which got completely twisted by the dark side of the force. You could even see how twisted his psyche was in his eyes, as portrayed brilliantly by Christopher Lee in Attack of the Clones.
my perspective of who dooku was, was a master of sword combat almost like take all the sword martial arts(in history almost like al goul from batman) and that was what dooku was emulating when he went to the sith side
Well.. ya know what they say... "The Road to Chaos is paved with "Good" intentions..."
Was Hubris to think he could infiltrate the Sith an destroy them from within. Points for effort an thinking outside the box but at HIS age and rank Dooku shoulda known better.
Dooku having Grievous and a droid army murder The Nightsisters isn’t a bad thing, because The Nightsisters aren’t good people.
I think Dooku was sympathetic up to a point. He recognized the problems of the Republic long before anyone else did. He genuinely wanted to achieve justice. But after he killed Yaddle and joined Sidious, that was it. He lost all credibility and his morality by doing so. His later atrocities prove that.
All evil people complain about the flaws of the current society before doing something ten times worse.
There is no perfect system but instead of trying to improve the system they want to go tyrant authoritarian.
By joining Sidious Dooku showed his true colours.
@@tahjsimon9058 +1 sir. Very well said.
He actually started doing some bad things before that though. But that was when it was obvious
"killed baby hut" ah the end of the video already?🤔
"tier 2" ohh 😬💀
Great character, I think he could be seen as sympathetic in the beginning because of the things the senate and order were up to, but was horribly responsible for many, many deaths.
Dooku indirectly caused much suffering as well as killing others personally
While Vader directly and indirectly killed countless people
Dooku caused a war in her not only killer d many, but created a False revolutionary movement that made many victims of Republic reprisals and the future Empire, had droid Armies and minions killed many in his name, and created his successor Vader that killed far more after him
The difference is Dooku did all this for the cause to create a utopian Empire, where corruption is eradicated and progress is lead by enlightened Force Wielders as the Sith
Palpatine stole that dream and simply made an autocratic Empire for the sake of ruling forever and have Vader as enforcer
Vader may have intended to spread order, but simply to impose the current regime, rather than promote the common good like Dooku dreamed
This is why I need a Dooku book for a character so complex I’d love to know what it actually was the made him turn and his thoughts that lead him to it
He was sad about the state of swordsmanship in the galaxy and decided that it would be easier to erase the hopeless cases and start teach a completely new generation of refined swordsmen. Since the count of miserable swordsmen is in billions, so was the list of his victims.
I'm curious, I haven't watched Tales of the Jedi yet. I'm guessing its a prequel to the prequels right? Before TPM and basically when Dooku was still a jedi and fell to the dark side? But what about Anakin and Ahsoka being there?
Me before watching the clone wars: So Dooku is a turncoat? Alright, let's see how bad he is!
Me watching the clone wars: man this guy is so evil, hilter would be rolling in his grave!
Can we do this with Darth Sidious ? I’d be interested see all the crimes and deaths caused by his actions would be ranked
Count Dooku started the war so it never surprised me how evil he was.
The war was planned way before Dooku left the jedi
@@TyreeseBiggums
Yes Dooku started the war before leaving the Jedi Order.
Vader was Darth Sidious' apprentice during the enslavement of the Wookies!
I feel like Dooku was a lost soul. He knew of his heritage, was saddened by the failing Jedi, broken at the loss of his friend and apprentice, and was pushed into a situation he knew there was no turning back from. Dooku did all those horrible things because he was corrupted by the dark side and knew how powerful Sideous was. Dooku felt like he had no choice if he wanted to bring change to the galaxy. Unfortunately; the dark side poisoned his way of thinking and he let it.
Dooku would have had no issue with the order to destroy Alderaan and the death star destroying Yavin 4.
Okay, I’m definitely on the Republic’s side, the Jedi’s side, and most importantly the Clone Trooper side, but I have to say, Dooku feels more like a Dark Jedi than a Sith. Hell, the Inquisitors feel more like Sith than Dooku.
I’m always telling other folks about how Dooku while good at first, became evil and it’s the same thing with the CIS, sometimes I think I’m the one who needs these reminders. We always see the Sith making empires to conquer the galaxy, even in Legends. Yet the CIS would be a strange Sith Empire if Dooku made it one and he just doesn’t seem like a Sith Emperor, hell he sometimes doesn’t seem like a Sith Lord.
Now that I think about it, everything I just typed makes Dooku even scarier. With other Sith, you can tell even from a glance they are Sith, that they are evil. Dooku on the other hand just doesn’t feel like the same thing. Hell, each Sith has an evil deed we can associate with them. Maul killed Qui-Gon and took over Mandalore. Vader wiped out the Jedi Temple. Palpatine committed Order 66 and ruled the galaxy. Dooku? He made a separatist movement. It just doesn’t hit the same. And yet he’s just as evil as these other guys. Dooku seems more like an old politician than some guy who delves into dark stuff. Even his crimes seem more like the stuff of a shady and immoral politician than a Sith. It goes to show that there isn’t exactly a type for who can become a Sith.
In the ep 3 novel Dooku was described as always being selfish, possessive, and arrogant long before he left the Jedi - not really understanding things like friendship and more concerned about his reputation then doing right.
I appreciate your videos . Prior to seeing them, I always thought of Dooku as a Dark Jedi. I always thought that he meant to vanquish Sidious after he had established order.
I am in no way a real Star Wars aficionado
I'm creating a DnD character based on Dooku, Tarth Dyranus. This video (and the last on) has helped me out immensely.
I think he only commited these crimes against humanity after he was corrupted by the dark side and groomed by sidious, and dont forget, he grew to hate the jedi
George Lucus did the character of Dooku dirty in the movies with such a short screen time.
Necessary sacrafices must be made.
About slaves for the war efforts: Once he would become the (co-)leader of the entire Galaxy post-war he could put a stop to all further slavery, meaning that him using slave trade in order to acheive this goal (which, mind you, slavery was happening anyway wether he would condone it or not, in the midst of the galactic civil war, he would scarcely have reasources to put a full stop to it).
About the Death Star: If weapons of mass destruction can be made, then it is just generally, strategically more sound to be the first to make them. Supposedly, rivals are going to make their own anyway, so it is a necessary self-defence measure.
They better do an episode about Syfo-Dyas in Tales of the jedi, possibly showing when . He was ordering the clone army.
YES!!
The lesson around Dooku and Anakin/Vader is that you can start a good person but can become evil if you’re good intentions lack boundaries. If you succumb to “My ends Justify my means.” Saw Guerra also teetered on that edge.
What tipped Dooku and Anakin over that edge was the psychopathic master manipulator in Palpatine. He twisted Dooku’s wish to end a corrupt Republic and Anakin’s wish to make a warring galaxy stop fighting and protect those he cared about to his own evil purposes.
Palpatine is arguably one or the most thoroughly evil--and dangerous-villains ever written. Powerful evil Wizard. Powerful warrior. Expert political operator without a conscience. Masterful corrupter and manipulator. Dooku fell to evil, but Palpatine kicked his legs out from under him.
Bro was a Jedi too 💀
In my opinion he's the second best sith lord
Personally I think joe was the second best sith
Who's the first?
Even still. Anakin shouldn’t have caved to the like’s of Palpatine. He should’ve kept Dooku alive for justice, and maybe redeem himself by spilling what he knows. Pity.
A youtuber named Geetsly gave his own account of Dooku, which did not paint him in a positive light. Some of the topics included but not limited to Dooku being a human purist, and creating an army of dark jedi that would bring order to the galaxy
The music during the merch section, the strings... where can i find the full version?
Killed billions, including 100s of Jedi
Saved trillions :D
@@ravanpee1325 what the fuck do you mean saved trillions, he just killed billions
Nothing he did resulted in saving trillions
@@CT_Taylor As if the Empire aka the Galactic Republic would be the better solution
@@ravanpee1325 yes it would
You mean all Jedi accept Yoda and Obiwan, according to Disney. 🤬😠😡
Can you please do a video on how it was possible to build and conceal the death star??? This topic is got to be incredible, as the size of that shit considering would take a planets were the people! Let alone work dark soul disposed of all these people that knew of the secret??
Anyone who sees him slay Yaddle and still go “yea hes right” needs their head checked lmao
Never saw him as an anti-hero to begin with, and I never agreed with people who claimed that the Separatists did nothing wrong. Dooku was fully on board with starting a galaxywide civil war, the deaths of vast numbers of people, and a serious effort to wipe out (and probably replace) the Jedi Order. He seemed genuinely surprised when Palpatine turned on him and told Anakin to kill him. The sense that I had watching that was that Dooku truly saw himself as Palpatine's successor and was shocked to learn that he was just as expendable as Maul. While Dooku was not a cackling maniac like Palpatine, he was no less evil and he most definitely was *NOT* fighting to build a better galaxy for the actual *people.* His vision of the galaxy would not have been much different than Palpatine's Empire and his replacement for the Jedi would have looked a lot like the Inquisitorious.
I believe his original intentions were good but the dark side corrupted him and twisted his mind
Yeah but again,he chosed to do these things,theres still the concept of free will when you are a force wielder,Galen Marek was a dark jedi/sith apprentice,and even after wanting to defeat The Empire and bring peace and justice to the Galaxy,he continued using the dark side in insane ways without ever doing anything Dooku did.
@@plagueisproductions9327 Yes but you got to remember 2 things, 1 Galen Marek is not a Cannon character and 2 Palpatine more or less broke Dooku
@@anthonyluclarocque1765 Starkiller is still SW, no need to disregard his story.
As an apprentice/co-conspirator of Darth Sidious, the act of killing a child would have meant little. He was already far gone and lost to the dark side.
Dooku is probably as powerful as Palpatine was. His lightsaber combat was top of the ranks and he was very powerful with the force as well.
Ventress went into a healing Coma, like in the Clone Wars comics when she appeared to die three times, she was not in Mauls lair on Dathomir
You missed some points here. Son of Dathomir mentions that billions of beings died during the Clone Wars. It also shows how Dooku has a CIS fleet commit genocide via orbital bombardment during the beginning of the novel. That would have been a good mention and he at least killed millions then.
Whether if ppl realizes this or not Anakin and Dooku are very similar to each other and why they both became Sith Lords anyone listening yall should really make a video about that comparing the 2 characters
I feel like Duku was an "Ends Justify the Means" kinda guy
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. He thought he and sidious were going to be the absolute power in the galaxy and he became corrupted by it.
While Dooku was definitely corrupted by the dark side in the end - we have to remember how much of this material either came out of the clone wars movie/show - or canon that largely was inspired from it. And while the Clone Wars did an amazing job in portraying many characters - Dooku was not one of them. They needed a clear villain - and so Dooku became a standard, grey (and not in the moral sense) nasty fellow. The transition is easy to see - in AOTC he's sinister - but conflicted. You can see his convictions - especially when taking into account the deleted scenes. In the crawl for Revenge of the Sith - the line 'heroes on both sides' - is clearly meant to allude to Dooku.
Dooku certainly allowed Sidious to corrupt his intentions and use him - but I really don't agree with how Clone Wars and subsequent entries have often treated him. Dooku: Jedi Lost was almost brilliant - until it attributed his fall to attachment and a sith beast on Serenno (sigh). I see Tales of the Jedi as almost an apology for the last decade of mishandling one of Star Wars' most interesting and compelling characters.
Becoming a Sith Lord isn't just The Training" -it is also The Commitment.
Count Dooku's commitment to being a Sith is equal to his former commitment to being a Jedi.
All the time Dooku is a Jedi, he is true.
And" all the time Dooku is a Sith, he is true.
Dooku truly understands that sacrifices are necessary -(in the real world" it's called: GROWING UP)!
Being a Jedi" is commitment and sacrifice, Being a Sith is also commitment and sacrifice.
And" you have to truly understand this!
For Dooku" IT IS NEVER ABOUT KILLING!!
It is sacrifice.
Commitment is" (serving The Cause).
The Jedi are a Cause.
The Sith are a Cause.
For Count Dooku" -there is no betrayal.
There is only The Cause.
And" The Commitment.
Dooku has never truly lied about his intentions.
He can stand right in front of you and hide in plain sight!
EASY TO DO - with the naive!
The Naive" are everyone he sacrifices.
And" (they) are almost everywhere.
The Naive create disorder, because they do what comes easiest:
Lie.
Cheat.
And" Steal.
Along with everything that comes with it.
Resulting in -DISORDER!
If" it is not The Cause of The Sith, it can only be disorder.
If" it is not The Cause of The Jedi, it can only be disorder.
The billions sacrificed (NOT KILLED) -are The Naive.
They are according to Dooku:
1) THE REPUBLIC. And" that's practically The Galaxy when you add sympathizers that multiply like insects everywhere
2) THE NIGHT SISTERS. Bloody pests!!
3) TURNCOAT SEPARATISTS. This does not include Droids.
4) A BABBLING FORMER FRIEND. Who couldn't keep his mouth shut!
IT'S NO WONDER WE'RE NOT FRIENDS ANYMORE!
5) AND SOME JEDI. That are just TOO ZEALOUS! Count Dooku: I'm just a Sith Lord, still trying to be a good man -in all of the damned disorder, -and here come (some) blasted Jedi!
LOOKS LIKE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAR SOME OF THEM OUT OF THE WAY!!
So i can continue to conduct my business uninterrupted!🌈🧐
I wonder if it is possible that some of these heinous acts were created by sidious
Count Dooku: "I only did genocide because I was morning my Padwan Qui-Gon Jinn".
Qui-Gon Jinn: "That is former Padwan and better Jedi Master than you"!
Where can I find the music that plays in the background?
When I read the thumbnail I read it as “Star Wars killed billions” and im just thinking to my self ‘???????????????How in living hell??????????????’
Dooku
Self-righteous, almost narcissistic
Consistent, not hypocritical
Ruthless and a firm believer in 'ends justify the means' mantra
How many did the Jedi and Clone Army kill? All in the name of keeping Separatists in the Republic.
He his more ruthless than the movies
“Hutt or not, a baby is a baby.”
Wellllll… agree to disagree.
Did anyone else hear an audio crunch during some of the transitions of the video?
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that Dooku killed his own sister or is that just in Legends?
You forget the creation of general Griveous.