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This is the second time fulltime RVers Liz and Paul have experienced theft from their campsite. Security cameras for the RV are the answer.
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It sucks that there are people out there who help themselves to others property. Unfortunately it is in campgrounds I guess, as well as stick & bricks neighborhoods. Sure do miss the "good ol' days" when we could trust our neighbors though. Safe travels and I sure hope things start turning around for y'all!
Tell me about it. I live in a nice neighborhood in a (comparatively) good city and at least twice a month a couple thieves can seen being on camera in the middle of the night checking door handles and the back of pickup trucks. I've also had a large job box stolen out of my truck that was locked and probably weighed 300 lbs. 5 am, 10 minutes and all on camera. Bold as heck.
Cameras won't do it, lock it up. My dad told me years ago that locks only keep out the honest people and to do what you can, but expect theft at some point. It's a fact of life. Not worth letting it consume you basically, but don't make it easy either. Miss you dad. Thanks for all good the locks!
Thanks for that insight. I live in NYC and what I came to realize is that it’s not that people are thieves. But when they see something that’s easy to take there minds tell them, it’s easy let’s go for it. I just brought a class A and before going to sleep I make sure that my bay doors are locked and things that can move or walk away on it’s own I store under lock and key. I am glad that it wasn’t paranoia because I really felt that way. Thanks again and sorry for your loss.
@@lbrockington7025 People are thieves much more than you'd believe. We like to think it's all preaches cream and rosey world. It's not sadly.
@C. W. Sayre That's not entirely true. Ever heard of a crime of opportunity?
@C. W. Sayre Yes, it's a crime but I think you're missing my point. Why make it easy or tempting, thus increasing the odds of someone that might not normally be a criminal as you put it, but it's just too easy so to speak. You don't think human psyche plays a role, risk vs reward and morality that some people think if due diligence wasn't taken to lock up or whatnot somehow they deserve it being stolen. That or 'someone else was gonna take it' mentality. Not everything in life is as simple as black and white. No lock is theft proof for someone determined enough, but locking things up greatly reduces the risk of it dissapering, why is that? 🤔
I was camping in near Rushford Minnesota and dropped my wallet in the park. I realized it after riding back to the camper, I rode back the same way but no luck. I immediately canceled all my cards. So I spent the next week looking for cheep or free things to do. I was dreading the hassle of getting a new driver's license, so I was dragging my feet on that one. After a few weeks I received a package in the mail with no name just a return address. When I opened the package I saw my wallet with the 150$ still in it they didn't even take money out for postage.
Things like that renewed my faith in humanity. Unfortunately not everyone is like that.
Sorry for the trouble. And sorry for the loss of your brother.
Ha! That was me that sent your wallet back! :)
What a fabulous story! Thanks so much for sharing!! :-D
That's because you were in minnesota....west coast is way different, a lot of nasty people out here.
MN nice!
That was amazing that someone had enough character to send your wallet back to you complete and whole!
Whether they were locked up or not, it's still theft. And if the police find them, they won't know they're yours if you don't file a report.
Exactly, excellent comment! I was thinking the same thing. God Bless and we must employ a better and much stricter government like in Dubai. Dubai has practically ZERO crime rate due to very strict rules. Also Singapore. We here in USA need total reform of crime laws and punishment.
When it comes to recovering stolen items.....sorry to say but the police couldn't find their asses in the dark with both hands searching
Police doesn't look for recreational items, sorry. What needed to happen was a tracking device (it's tiny, within the bike and can't be removed after placed) would tell police exactly where they are, and the felons would go to prison.
@@tomd6588 Of course, the police we currently employ here in USA are lazy fat unhealthy morons who really don't care. They harass innocent people trying to keep healthy and support and protect the corrupted, evil government. They care only when it directly affects them though, as many people will only care about something when it effects their own.
Real reason they didn’t file a report is because they’re wealthy and just ordered more.
Different times indeed. Everyone needs to know the highs and lows of this lifestyle, which mirrors life in general. Thanks for sharing! Next ebikes, place a hidden tracker like Apple air tags. That’s how I recovered my bike. Good luck and keep up the great content.
Good tip. Thank you. And from now on, locked and covered! See you in our latest video right here: czcams.com/video/BnLvnS4U3gs/video.html
Yes, good tip!
This has been going on for a long time people are only now becoming aware of it. I live in a blue collar area where there is quite a bit and growing amount of poverty and I’ve seen people getting ripped off for decades. Between the leniency of the courts and the huge drug problems we have in the country criminals are getting a slap on the wrist and go out and rip off more people.
Yes! We put the air tags in anything of significant value, including our cars. They are fairly accurate, at least that's been our experience with them. You can pinpoint their location down to a house or an apartment.
sounds a bit unrealistic that camping chairs and various other items from the campsite can run up in $7.000. I would have estimated it to $500.
Thank you for this great video, as well as all your others, from which I learn so much. I do have to say something after reading many of the comments here. My parents owned a trailer park (today would be called campground or RV park) in a resort area from 1960-1993. Things got stolen all the time. Clothes -- including mine -- were stolen from the laundry room; my dad's rifles were stolen from the pump house; peoples skis walked away. The difference was there was no internet and no text messaging, so only a couple people knew about each incident. Also, let's face it, there was less to steal. The "overnighters" were in 13 foot trailers and later, 24 foot Winnebagos. There were no TVs, or e-bikes, or expensive mountain bikes. There were no $300 EMSs hanging on the electrical posts or portable solar panels. People aren't worse now than before; we just hear about it -- and thieves make off with more valuable things, because we are fortunate to camp with nicer things.
Thanks for such a great comment. You make some great points about the Internet meaning more people hear about thefts than back then. For us, we've decided from now on, locked and covered! See you in our latest video right here: czcams.com/video/iP5Xlb6awVo/video.html
EXCELLENT AND FINALLY AN INTELLIGENT COMMENT. quick question to everyone saying “put air tags on the bikes” and maybe I'm confused as hell about how they work. If they are notifying people carrying them, what dang good are they?????? My mother borrowed a handbag of mine that had an air tag left in it. She called me about two hours later to ask me about some strange message she was getting on her phone. So basically it would have alerted the purse thief to toss the air tag!! What good would that do? Very unlikely that the item is located before the thief catches on?? Right??
Spot on ...like death and taxes thieves will always be with us. G'day from Australia mate 🇦🇺 Shop less? Be more like Davy Crocket. Travel light.
You definitely should report this, whether embarrassed or not. Check the classifieds in the area to see if someone is selling them for fast cash.
Yep, I can't believe she didn't report that
Possession is 9/10 of the law. One must have the id numbers of the item on hand should this happen.
@@larrybe2900 Liz’s bike doesn’t have a serial number. Luna’s a small boutique company. But I’m sure they have proof of purchase - not to mention adequate documentation with their many videos.
@@TrishBenedict Any expensive item that doesn’t have a serial number should be engraved with identifying info.
@@chrisgeezvlog7349 I think they had. At least her first Luna did. They mentioned in the theft video 1.0 last year that it had some identifying features and modifications they were able to provide.
If I had those bikes, they’d be in my camper or the truck bed. I don’t leave anything out of value. Every thing gets locked up. I don’t trust anyone at a campsite. Good luck find the culprits who stole your bikes.
Too much trouble. Cumbersome, ankle banging pain in A.
And... ebikes are heavy
Right!!! I lock everything up too
@@WillChil466 Getting $7000 of bike stolen sounds like a lot mote trouble to me
Never feel stupid for trusting people. It’s unfortunate that their are scumbags out there that ruin it for so many. Thank you for putting this video out there. I’m not an RV guy…at all, but I’m enjoying your videos! Please don’t feel stupid because of some jerk/jerks that felt they had the right to steal your property. I don’t care if they were or weren’t locked!
My husband and I camped for as long as I can remember. We always said that it was so nice to go places and feel safe and secure (state campgrounds). It has been quiet a few years since we have camped now and you are right, it is not the same as it was in the 90's and 2000's. I am sorry this happened to you all.
Store bikes IN your rv, tent or car. Don't ATTRACT crime by leaving stuff around to be scoped out by thieves.
Especially expensive items!
$7k of bikes unlocked!!?!?
I couldn't agree more! I bought brand new high end fold up Bicycles and I was going to mount them on the back of my Rv (locked up) and the owner of the store told me "you're asking for trouble! "
He said don't attract thieves by ADVERTISING your high end gear. Cause they will definitely take your new bikes. I agree its not your fellow campers. Its a group working the area (and Ill bet they're friendly! )
@@omegalamda3145 : In their defense, they were out in a remote area with almost nobody else around.
One of the points of camping is to get out of the routine of city living and the shit you have to worry about. I totally get not locking up their bikes, they have nothing to be embarrassed about, I would have had the same thing happen if I was them. When you start worrying about locking things up all the time it sours the experience, they were not doing anything alot of would have done or not done. They are on top of things, just hope the feeling doesn't linger for long for them, love that they are looking at things on the bright side, something we could all learn from
One suggestion when putting your bikes on the back of your tow vehicle take the battery out seat off and take the pedals off and lock them up no battery no seat no pedals won't get stolen👍👍👍👍👍 also put a battery operated camera on the back of your RV aiming at your bikes
Good idea!
It's a shame the way our country is going. The current administration is sure not helping anything.
Thank you!!
@@RobertSmith-tq6mf After what we all witnessed on Jan 6, your comment is moronic.
@@RobertSmith-tq6mf why politicize?
Imagine how much better life would be without thieves. In addition to the stress they cause, we spend tons of money to avoid getting stuff stolen.
Yep. You got that right! Thanks for your comment!
I have camped my whole life, and never had anything stolen, we leave equipment all over our campsite, and dont care. But then the most valuable thing we have is the cooler full of beer...
I live by the code that you must assume that today or tonight is when the thieves are coming. Just plan on it, like anticipating dinner guests. Locking doors and objects becomes an unconscious routine. Also observe your environment, keep your head on a swivel in sketchy areas. Pay attention to people who are paying attention to you.
I would say RV camp grounds are like boat marinas. There is always a thief among them. They don't purchase their equipment, they steal their equipment.
Whoa, is that comparison a good one! I grew up near harbors, they're full of thieves.
Cameras don’t discourage thieves. They give you a nice video of someone who can’t identify stealing your property and they lull you into a false sense of security
They actually do, you will see lots of videos of Ring cameras stopping and catching thieves. And we know that’s why banks use cameras.
@@LizAmazing I get your point but cameras really aren’t the deterrent in bank robberies. Bank robbery is a SERIOUS federal crime against the entire financial system . To the point though, even in bank robberies all you get from cameras is a video of a masked (likely) disguised criminal after the robbery was committed. The FBI is not going to investigate a campsite theft nor will local law enforcement investigate with any fervor whatsoever ( as shown in your Utah bike theft) . Pretty much all you’ll get is access to their report. Criminals know this and just don’t care anymore.
Best practice is prevention as best you can but even that is not 100%.
Many times I have been in secluded areas out in the "middle of nowhere" camping, even overnight backpacking, thinking were were all alone only to suddenly see or hearing other campers, hikers! Never anything malicious or scary has ever happened but just amazed as to where would I have to go to be alone!!!
The reality is, you can’t trust anyone!
This has been a tough year for you. Paul, I'm sorry for the loss of your brother. I'm sorry about the bikes being stolen not once but twice and your accident(s). The good news is things can be replaced and both of you are healthy and unharmed. Sending love, light and prayers for your future adventures. May peace be with you now and always.
I second that.
Great video to remind us all. My wife and I got into tent camping a few years ago and just this recently bought our first camper. Just a little one but we are super excited to get out all summer even plan to camp during the work week. Spreading knowledge is one of the most important things one can do in life besides being a good person. You two seem to really be genuine loving people that really like to share! wish y’all the best and thank you for all the advice and knowledge you spread with your fellow RV campers!
Awww, thanks so much for the love! We really appreciate you and hope to see you on the road someday!
Took a blow to my sense of humanity this morning. Informed my neighbor of thieves working our neighborhood late at night/early morning checking door locks of cars and possibly house doors all the way up the block. Their look outs stand outside his house. He asked why I sent him a text? That never happens to me, he said. I have been told to stop expecting more from poor neighbors. Wishing you the best in your travels!
Thank you very very much. Stay safe.
Agree with filing a police report. Sorry for your loss and Ive lost coolers full of food before. I carry a carbon fiber bike with me but its locked all the time. I love to ride and do so 4 times a week. The last thing I want to replace is a 4000.00 bike. I wish you the best and hope you have no more bad luck.
Coolers- crazy!!! After my bike got stolen in April 2020, we learned that police are far too busy to be looking for stolen bicycles. They will make a report so we can file an insurance claim. We knew the bikes were long gone and also knew we weren't going to make a claim. See you in our bonus video tomorrow.
We do that with our bikes too…not taking any chances loosing our road or hybrids.
My sister in law locked her bike to a post, both quick release wheels/rims were stolen. My daughter in Hawaii locked her scooter to a sign post. Witness said she saw 4 men lifting it up and over the sign post. The witness didn't bother to call the police... Sad....
We really appreciate you making this video as painful as it was to make it. We appreciate your humbleness and we all have had to learn some of the same life lessons more than once. Hopefully this will help some people learn before having to pay for their education.
I was recently told that video cameras are not really useful in ascertaining a criminal of theft as the crime doesn't warrant the investigation required. Sooo you have a picture of someone taking your property, what then?
WOW...so sad what is becoming of our Country! Looks like there's no going back to honesty and trustworthiness!
Cameras are great! Look how well RING doorbells have done for those in homes and apartments.
I'm sorry to see that you people experienced this bad experience! One thing I have learned in life at the age of 70 is to never underestimate what could actually happen. Prepare for the worst!
Vanmoof makes an ebike that has tracking. And they will at their expense send someone out to retrieve the bike. Highly rated and looks normal.
For the price of a small used car they should out SWAT
Gimmick. Police won't enter private property even if you tell them your GPS is pinging from that location.
Think the bike retrieval is only available in big cities
I would highly not pursue your bikes unless your life is worth less than material items. Those guys who are willing to steal has no limits at what they are willing to do. Are you willing to have a gun fight?
@@misterle7026 I would pursue those SOB's! Stand your ground, don't back down. Go get your bikes!
Thieves become the spirit guardians of my neighbor's fence posts. In Texas we don't mess around.
Good for you!
So sorry about your theft. It breaks my heart to hear. Long-time biker here, with my share of losing bikes from theft over the years- but I've slowly lived and learned what to do- and not to do- to minimize the chance of it.
Firstly- you're starting over, so... Remove the batteries from the bikes before you put them on the rack- whether your parked (it'll make them one step less attractive since they're incomplete) and on the road (so there's no chance of them coming loose.) Any room for them when you're parked in your RV basement storage? Do you have quick-release hubs? Remove the front wheels, too. (They won't be able to ride away and again, they'll be one step more unattractive to steal.
NO Cable Locks, folks! They can be cut through way too easily. Yes, ANY lock or chain can be foiled, but the idea is, the better the chain and lock shackle, the longer it takes to cut and the equipment needed is noisier. Don't try to save money on your locks!
Think about WHAT you're locking it to. For instance, if a bike with a high-end chain and lock wrapped around not only your bike (which a thief isn't going to cut through since that's what they want) is then wrapped around a bike rack which is made of plastic or thin tubing which can be cut, then it's vulnerable. Ideally, if your rear bike rack that the bikes are chained to is made of angled or square steel, it'll be tougher.
Think about and research GPS tracking devices that can be inserted stealthily somewhere in your bike.
Consider storing your bike IN the RV when you're not nearby or are sleeping.
Chain your bikes together, as well as to something. Use multiple locks. They'll be hard to take away if chained together.
Good luck everyone and happy biking, camping and RV-ing!
Excellent advice and we've done much of what you suggested.
@@LizAmazing Fantastic! Of course it was for your readers as much as to you. And I forgot to thank you for your original post which I'm sure wasn't easy to do.
I'm sorry that happened to you. There are a lot of tweekers who stay in and around campgrounds these days and they have no morals or empathy for anyone else.
Very true
I agree with you, you get them mostly in County and State campgrounds due to the cheaper pricing. Private campgrounds are the way to go.
@@robm6155 I do not agree, I always camp at state parks and think that with all the people around they are safe. I still think that 99% of people are good. Maybe that % is to high but I would like to think its is that high.
I am going to start running a timelapse camera out the window of my cheapo camper to help protect my fellow campers from these types of criminals. Getting the theft published was a good move because you never know who was coming up the highway at that hour with their dash camera running. If I were in the area I would review any old footage that I had, and I hope that others would also.
Sorry for your loss. Thank GOD they haven't stole my bike, I keep my Honda Shadow VT750 in my toy hauler when away, when I pull it out to go to sleep I lock the front end & let my American Bull Dog named "Devil Dog" guard it.
That's the way to do it. Thank you. See you in our latest video right here: czcams.com/video/y2X9f4M3IfU/video.html
There’s been a few times we’ve had people steal from the camping area and a couple times items in the storage compartments. I have a bad habit of leaving them unlocked. I’ve noticed the people that own the RVs tend not to steal, but their guests that are more likely to be a lower income level. So I would suggest locking up your compartments and don’t leave anything outside you’re not willing to loose.
I would also pay attention to the inventory takers. Some come as friendly neighbor and you’ll pay attention to them looking pretty much through your entire site. You’ll also have the inventory takers from the road. This is people that look a little too long inside your site or come by more than twice all the while looking at your site.
If you have been paying attention, you’ll notice those inventory takers will usually be missing at the same time your stuff disappears. This happens more with parks that have permeant residents, but not limited to those parks.
These are great tips, thank you! We are loving our RV security cameras because people DO indeed scope out the area or "take inventory" as you say! Here's more about our cameras, which are recording 24/7: czcams.com/video/8RuTcESPjyU/video.html
Goes back to: there is nothing wrong with this World - except the People in it.
haha yes, good comment
I spent 35 years in the HR/people business and the change in three decades was distressing. Work ethic, honesty, commitment and decent behavior seriously declined. With the influx of more people in the RV life in the past few years I believe we will see more challenges with improper behavior of all types. Who raised these individuals?
Hmmm….I’m NOT a thief, but if I was it would be pretty easy to put a piece of duck tape or something over the camera lens where you have it installed. Up high would be a better choice so that it wouldn’t be blocked or maybe the thief wouldn’t realize it was there. Got to be one step ahead!!
@4:20 mark, OF COURSE the campground would say they’re ‘shocked’ to learn there has been any theft…they will never admit that they know thefts are occurring and that they’re not able to prevent them.
I suggest if you don't have them you both consider the other Locks that start with a G. Personal protection is most important. I'm not even a rookie camper but my wife and I have been seriously looking into purchasing something. Thank you for the heads up on security, another thing to put on our list.
Indeed. Thanks so much for your comment. And GPS trackers, too. We also think the biggest defense is having them covered (as well as locked). Thanks Patrick!
BULLY LOCK - Has a horseshoe lock with built-in alarm with a pager to alert you if someone moves it. $80 - $149.
Really! ....I will look into that.
Yes. attached to a cowbell !!
@@MyMason100 I am deaf to alerts (so many I'm conditioned out of paying attention anymore). That is perfect in its simplicity. And it does all the initial work of telling them to scram without hearing any puny voices from your shadows:
"who's there?"
(put some bass in your voice!)
"ahem Who is there???"
(we're dead).
lol
April 21 I was stopped at a motel 6 in silver city New Mexico. I was parked directly in front of the window, in front of the camera, under the lights. They stole my whole truck.
It is not the same now.
So sorry to hear. Well at least the thieves didn’t put your lives in danger. Stuff can be replaced but not your lives! Stay safe .
So true. Thank you so much for this! Big hugs to you and be safe as well.
How sad , it's 2022 and people can't enjoy themselves without worrying about thieves , come on people when are we ever going to grow out of this low vibration???
We are focusing on the positive AND from now on locked and covered. Thanks for your comment, Michael!
Even in the 80’s in a camp ground with security…people stole from us.
a human is a human is a human, nothing changes.
Definitely. Been robbed a few times
The awful temptations of Sin increse more in remote private Areas.
No Police report, no insurance claim, no lock, no motion sensor. Embarrassing or not why would you not follow a claim??? If nothing else to alert the police to thieves in the area. Did you look to find your bikes on Craigslist or FB market for the area that they were stolen in? I've actually retrieved stolen items that I found on Craigslist.
Very good point, report the bikes so at least the police are aware thieves are in the area. 🍻
Yes. Please file a police report so that the authorities can be alerted to the theft and will then be more in tune with possible thieves in the area. It may help others who want their stolen things back
Such perfect victims....*sigh*
Thank you, yes! We did indeed make a Big Mistake, here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
I want to say sorry for your loss! Dang thief! I hate them.
Now days, you get people who lost their jobs, living in camp grounds! Poor people! So, please be careful! Don't trust anyone, anymore! This is our new world, we live in!
Thank you. BUT we made a Big Mistake, here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
I am so sorry to hear that. I'm someone who also thinks campgrounds are safe. I'm glad that you'll are sharing your story
Thanks Connie! Be safe.
120Db cable locks are nice. If cut or tampered they scream. Just a thought.
The saddest part is losing your faith in others, and it's 1% of the total of every one you will ever meet but will put doubts in the next 99% you meet...
The % is growing faster and faster everyday
So true! See you in our bonus video tomorrow!
You should notify police. As a retired officer of 36 years I say this because they may have recovered them and if no one has reported them they will go to auction eventually.
Also, the more the police know about crime occurrences the better they can prevent future crimes
Hi Bruce, we did call the police a couple weeks later, and even though we never got the bikes back it did feel like the right thing to do. Thanks
I had an electronic security company for 35 years. Cameras are a decent deterrent, but make sure you keep good physical security on your rig and all of your stuff or you could end up with a movie of someone in a hat, sunglasses and a hoodie walking away with your prized possessions.
We thought the same thing...at first. But then learned from security experts how thieves work. See more details on the pinned comment here: czcams.com/video/8RuTcESPjyU/video.html
This has been a stressful few months for you! *hugs* I really appreciate how you share being human and what you learned so we can also learn.
Thanks so much, Jami! Big hugs to you. Here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
Please call the police. These people will use them or sell them. The police could be on the lookout. They should not go scot free. Please please please call the police and make a report.
Can't say Scott free anymore either. 😁 Just teasing. Times have changed.
After my bike got stolen in April 2020, we learned that police are far too busy to be looking for stolen bicycles. They will make a report so we can file an insurance claim. We knew the bikes were long gone and also knew we weren't going to make a claim. See you in our bonus video tomorrow.
@@LizAmazing Check Craigslist and FB Marketplace in your area to see if the thieves listed them there.
Whoa. So sorry this happened. My roommate and I are newbies. I'm taking your advice about security cameras with utmost importance. It's a real kick in the teeth situation that happened, but thank you for seeing pass egos to help others who might be very trusting of fellow campers. Wow. 3 years. So incredible. We're prepping our departure for 7 month voyage. Maybe we can go full time once we become pros like you.😉
Yup! Fellow RVers is exactly RIGHT! Not a night, that was broad daylight where they were riden away. Our stuff was stolen during broad daylight however a good dog will alert you during night but, go ahead and make my day.
Yikes, so sorry you went through that. Our dog never alerted us but it was raining that night. BUT we made a Big Mistake, here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
My dad was selling their airstream....a few couples came to look at it....one woman had a very large purse/bag...they asked Dad to step out of the airstream while they talk about the airstream...Dad did....ugh....anyway they stole the lovely boat gold/brass clock and then left right away....Dad discovered the missing clock after they left....unreal....be careful with everyone!!!!
maybe they saw it in the pics of ad online.
That’s terrible!
It's another unfortunate sign of the times. Honor among campers is almost non existent nowadays. From just being rude to being loud and not cleaning up after themselves. It's sad but obviously we've seen it coming for at least a decade. I think it's because camping is so "easy" now. There's really no work or hardship as there was years ago. You can literally drag a hotel room on wheels to the middle of nowhere and have all the modern conveniences therefore attracting a whole other class of people to it. Sad but true....
We certainly live in a hotel on wheels!!! BUT we made a Big Mistake, here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
Yes, there are thieves amongst us. Never trust anyone unless you really know them!!
Thanks for making the videos. It's rare that I watch people talk about their life but you guys are super cute, smart, wise and pleasant to listen to. Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much, we love having you with us! See you in the next video.
What is happening to our society? I remember too, being able to leave doors and windows unlocked. Now, living ANYWHERE is becomming very stressfull. Trust is a thing of the past. I, too, have my share of stealing of, or attempted theft of bicycles. Thanks for sharing everything. Much appreciated.
Oh, so sorry that you, too have gone through this. Then you know that terrible sinking feeling when you realize something's gone. Appreciate your comment! Here's our update: B czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
You should still do a police report…. Because they might find them!!! Regardless they are stolen locked or not!!
Sorry to hear that. Maybe install GPS trackers on the bikes. At least if they get stolen you can track them down.
best suggestion. i have one in my car and home generator.
That's what I did. I still lock mine up to slow thieves down, but I also can put a virtual fence around it using the GPS, so I get a text alert if it leaves the campsite.
Please, let us know what kind of GPS we can get for bikes, generators etc. I’d like one for my pets too but can’t find them.
@@marilynpounds4379 The See Sense Air looks like it will be good, but they are still in "Pre Order" mode. seesense.cc/products/see-sense-air-pre-order
@@marilynpounds4379 amazon has dozens.
just google "bike gps tracker" for lots of options. for pets too.
Sherlock is popular
My mentality is "There's NO such thing as Safety on Earth where people live" 😢 Fortunately, I come from a horrible neighborhood growing up and mainly saw the Dark Side of Humanity Thank God ❤
You are NOT stupid!! Trust in your fellow man is ingrained in nearly all of us, I can think of no one who has not been touched by theft, usually by people you just wouldn't suspect.
Yes indeed. Thank you!
You can’t trust anyone. Hard lesson but it’s fact. And fellow campers aren’t necessarily who took your bikes. Very sad you are going through yet another hardship. Things will get better I’m sure !!
We aren't going to let this knock us down. Thank you for commenting. We love you!
You can trust me!
Sadly, my faith in humanity is gone. I’ve been lied to, stolen from, and more from friends, family and strangers. I trust my wife and Jesus. That’s it!
Amen!!
Perfectly said! I don’t know how wise it is to not be that way! Contrary to the beliefs of the average dem, It’s actually rarely low income families who do this…it’s thieves who love to take from others! That’s why you sometimes see these rings of spoiled rich kids get arrested
Jesus know the thieves. and allowed them to do it..
Exactly. No one can be trusted. Only the other day I had lost my hedge sheers. I must have left it in my garden and the neighbours dog escaped into my garden through a hole, then neighbour went into my garden . I found my sheers in the neighbours allotment #kent
@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 jesus is a thief stupid. He stole the bikes. He stole his way over the border. And he stole the rims off of lil smokies pinto
Most campgrounds are all about the dollar vice allowing folks to enjoy the experience. You never know who is next door. We had people (also seasonal folks in Gettysburg - Artillery Ridge) who, when we were not up there, just walked over and appropriated whatever they wanted. In fact, the owners of the campground, before our seasonal use was up, decided to start renting out our spot and, of course, they took everything they wanted.
You're right. It takes all kinds and there are all kinds of folks in campgrounds. Thanks for your comment.
I have a large gray waste tank cart that tows behind my truck at 5 miles an hour. Many state parks lack sewer hookups at the camp site. I use a heavy chain and lock to secure it to the trailer frame when not in use. The easier you make it the more certain of a bad outcome. Having lost a trailer full of tools to the tune of $6,000.00 because my lock was to easy to cut; I use a boot and heavy locks and chains.
Great tips, thank you Ron!
So sorry this had to happen.. again.
We had cameras installed on our truck, 5 of them, because of the millions of dollars we carry at any time. They have come in handy for us once as my husband was working on the truck with tools we store in the trailer. These tools are in locked boxes, however, since he was working outside on the truck he didn't feel he needed to lock the box until he was finished with the job and tools. Lucky for us, our cameras record and we have a large tablet display. I happen to notice movement in this display as I could hear my husband pounding under the truck. Someone was trying to take another set of tools from that box. Yikes!! I yelled and he dropped the box and kept running...
Oh my goodness! What a close call!! Wow! Yep, cameras are the best. We are super pleased with what we have and will definitely keep our new bikes covered and locked. Thanks for checking in with us, Liz. We love having you on our team!!!
I’m sitting here watching the video and empathizing because there have been times when I let my guard down and get bit and want to kick myself. I’m thinking of how to word a comment and then your ending comes up. You two are just too dang funny.
This is what I use. 130 dB motion activated alarm ($15), two disc brake locks ($5 each), two locks: a long cable lock with built on 120db alarm (activated when cut) and a hardened steel lock.
In your case you should also hide an Apple Disk Tracker to each bike $30 each.
PS. While riding I always carry dog/coyote repellent (ie. pepper spray).
Great tips, thank you so much! We are reluctant to use a motion sensor bc we worry about it going off when we are not at our site, say at the grocery store. And then for it to turn out to be just wind. We are super happy with our RV security cameras though! They are on 24/7 and we can check them remotely. More about our cameras here: czcams.com/video/8RuTcESPjyU/video.html
I'm so sorry that happened to you. One of the hardest things I think for you to change is your mentality of not trusting anyone. I personally have that. I don't trust anyone. You are really nice people. Stay that way but don't trust anyone.
Thanks so much for your kind words, Lorrie! From now on, locked and covered!
I live in the area where you were camping and unfortunately the crime rate has been crazy. Too many people out of work or unwilling to work. Covid-19 has hurt this country in so many ways.
I'm so sorry to hear that. We have a whole new generation of campers now days. They are disrespectful. Since the pandemic I have seen more and more of these newbies that have no morals. Sad but true. Sorry for your loss and that you always have to be aware now. Takes the fun out of it.
Thieves make the world suck. Sorry for your loss of your brother. Thanks for the videos friends!
Thank you. Thieves do indeed suck. Thank you for being on the A-Team. We love you!
One of the sad parts is that, you can have great neighbors and because of this experience they wont be trusted....thieves come in all colors shapes and sizes.. Thanks for the video..
Luckily, since then we did report this to the cops. They said likely it was someone from the neighborhood who followed this in. Evidently something like this has happened before. Still, from now on, locked and covered! Thanks for watching.
OMG! That is terrible! You STILL need to call the police and file your insurance claim!
Thank you!!! We learned from the theft in April 2020 that police are too busy to look for stolen bicycles. We didn't want to bother them as we won't be filing a claim. See you in our bonus video tomorrow.
Please my friends don't feel embarrassed there's a lot of bad out in the world today it's not like it was back in our days when our parents taught us right from wrong God bless and have a great day
@@Matthias_Fischer ????
@@Matthias_Fischer I guess YOUR data shows that the border is closed also...it's OK...I know one can not change the way you see thing's about this government and the data they put out to make things look the way they want ...say what you want...
@@Matthias_Fischer 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you! From now on locked and covered! BUT we made a Big Mistake, here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
People laugh at me and say I'm paranoid because of the way I lock my stuff up. Bottom line, if they want it bad enough, they'll get it, but at least I make them work for it...
Yes. The best you can hope for is to slow them down some or frustrate them enough that they go to an easier victim. Thanks for your comment, Scott!
A few years ago, my late ex-husband was at a campground near the very end of the campground (dead end). A small pickup drove up with 2 guys in it. They seemed friendly saying, "hey buddy, where's everyone at?", to which he answered, 'oh, they're all away fishing! Then the closest guy replied, "good, that's just what we wanted to hear". They got out of their pickup, took the car keys 🔑, ransacked his van, took his laptop, roughed him up a bit, and left him there, hobbled, with no vehicle access. Please be smart, and safe out there.
Oh my, Kelly, what a terrible experience that must have been! Thanks for the warning. Wow, so grateful that we were not attacked. For us, it's another reason for us not to boondock as the idea of being alone out in the wilderness makes us nervous. Thanks for sharing this story. Hugs to you!
Cameras can also be a false sense of security. If it alerts you to an approach while you're in the rig, that's good but all it takes is a can of spray paint to defeat the best camera system especially with the cameras mounted low.
Spray paint will set the alarm off. You have watching to many James Bond movies. 🥸
@@richardberger326 Or not enough James Bond movies.
Nothing is every 100% theft proof. Most people will just move on versus working that hard to defeat cameras. It's just like those yard signs saying there is a security system on the property. Thieves just move on to the next one.
@@LizAmazing I agree with the OP that cameras are a good idea but can lead to a false sense of security. I fear the reality is that most thieves don't care about being on camera. Just witness the prevalence of porch pirate videos online. The motion sensor alarm is a good idea so long as you are around to hear it and are prepared to come face to face with a thief caught in the act. I agree with the OP that cameras are a good idea but can lead to a false sense of security.
I tell people all the time, when they comment about me boondocking alone, that I'm safer out in the middle of nowhere than I am in a campground. So sorry about your misfortune, sometimes people suck.
Stop Bolt and cable cutters; wrap your stuff with: chain 3/8" grade 70 or pewag hardened square chain, slip the chain through tired looking 1.5" I.D. fire hose. Use a lock with shrouded shoulders, eliminate any excess space on the lock shank with washers held there with small O-rings.
yes, a hardened chain is the way to go, thank you. And from now on, locked and covered!
Been there, had tackle box and radio stolen at a State of Michigan campsite 25 year ago. About $800 worth. Told rangers and they just said they had a theft ring for the last month. No warning to the campers. Helped a guy find his row boat motor and tank that they had taken and hid till dark time to retrieve it.
Seasonal homes are often a target for thieves. Today's high-end trail cams and cameras are a great way to hopefully deter or assist in the arrest of low-down dirty dogs. Apology in advance to the canine community. Honestly, I prefer animals to humans.
This reminds me when I was in the military. My fellow soldiers were serious thieves.
Yep... the day I (Paul) arrived in-country (Nam - 1969) I had my duffel stolen by some scumbag. Luckily there wasn't much of anything of real value in it but it was still shocking that a fellow soldier would do it 🤷♂️
I'm sorry this happened to you two. As someone that's been camping since the early 80s, I'm shocked you guys felt so safe to leave your stuff unsecured. I've seen remote campsites have locals drive through looking for easy targets. Bikes are such an easy target, especially e-bikes bc of the speed and range.
Hi Jeff, like we said we'd been on the road two years and Paul never even locked his camper door the first year. By and by we find campgrounds to be safe friendly places. But it just took this happening for us to realize we need to keep things locked and covered at all times. Yes, especially e-bikes. Thanks for your comment!
I used to leave my car door unlocked when I parked in my garage. Until one day someone watched me unload my car with the garage door open and I set my keys down in the garage. I was inside for under a minute and walked back outside and no car. I know most people are good people. But it only takes a split second for things to go south.
This is one of the reasons we bought a Riverstone toy hauler(39FLTH if you want to see what it looks like), not the full size toy hauler but one that can haul say a golf cart or motor bike. Its like having a mini storage for all your toys while still having a full size RV living space. Also maybe check I'm thinking with a battery someone must make a GPS tracker that can be hidden on the bike. Take you right to the thieves.
That sounds like a wonderful ToyHauler! It would be so easy for us just to roll the bikes up the ramp. Thanks! And yes a GPS tracker is a good plan!! BUT we made a Big Mistake, here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
Campground owner's kids have a really good business in used ebikes, cameras and drones.
You should still call the police in case they apprehend people with the bikes, plus you should contact the insurance companies to see if they'll cover it anyway. A police report would also help with that.
So glad you made the video. I see many women camping alone. I have commented to them about being alone. They say it's safe. Sorry for your loss
Thank you Anna. I solo RVd for one year and I did feel safe. I started out boondocking (parked on the side of the road in pullouts) and didn't like that. But I felt safe in campgrounds.
You "trust" people at your own folly today. NEVER RISK what you cannot easily replace is my mantra now a days.
Yep. BUT we made a Big Mistake, here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
I'm so sorry that your bikes were stolen. 😢 It's awful that thrives are everywhere, and you can't even feel safe at a campground!!! I enjoy camping, and please don't let this incident dampen your spirit in camping. Stay safe and God bless.
Thanks so much for your support, Lee! Here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
This summer we were staying at a motel and a nice truck parked next to us had bikes locked up on it. On the day we were leaving they had been stolen, locks and cables cut clean through. Gone. I called the motel office to tell them. No matter where you are, it’s best to lock valuables up. At one campground we stayed at someone tried to break in. Damaged our door but that was about it.
Great video but not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet.... we dont RV but we regularly take cross country trips in a Jeep w/ a pair of bikes on the back.... 1st thing is we got a very sturdy and durable 1-UP bike rack that we are able to lock bikes to securely as well as locked to frame of vehicle, we use multiple locks, sometimes 6 locks...
We stay at a lot of hotels and also have locks with alarm and pager built in.... but we all know ANY lock can be defeated and we feel the most important thing is bike covers... now I know this isnt very practical when you are at a camp site for a week... usually when you settle in, bikes are uncovered so you can just grab and go... thieves will ALWAYS pass by covered bikes if they see uncovered bikes as an easier target and know what their target is... they are not going to waste time to figure out how to uncover (usually in the dark) to find a pair of Huffys.... we learned the hard way after losing a pair of carbon cannondale leftys on a road trip. Our bikes have never been touched since we started covering them years ago (we throw a cheap cable lock on the outside wrapped around the cover but any attempt to remove that cable or cover will set off pager) but there is never one sure fire way to protect your property as it is best done in layers
I started using TILES because my wife was always misplacing her keys. When it came time to replace them... I kept the old ones as I bought the newer ones that you can replace batteries on. I repurposed the old ones... I took an exacto knife and split the case of the old tiles so that I could change out the batteries and then resealed. I put those on items that could "walk away". Coincidentally, I'd just gone to retrieve my wallet when someone jumped on the bike and took off. The nice thing about "tiles" are that many, many, people are using them and they network... extending the coverage. We tracked the bike to another campground where it was sitting inside the bed of a pickup truck. A call to the sheriff, an explanation, a ride in his car tracking the hidden tile... and we had our bike back. Seemed like nice folks, it was a cousin who had come up to join them for a few days.
E-Bike theft is an epidemic throughout the country. No e-bike is safe from these scumbag thieves. Our e-bikes live under our constant attention and are locked up, even in our secure garage. A few weeks ago two locked very nice ebikes were stolen at a local outdoor dining spot with the owners only feet away! It’s easy to feel secure and invulnerable when camping in a remote place like you guys. Just a sad lesson learned but don’t beat yourselves up. It happens thousands of time a day!
Are hidden GPS locators available for stolen bikes?
Yes you can buy GPS locator devices for ebikes and other valuables. Not sure about range though.
Yes, that's so true. They are hot right now. And generators, too. See you in our bonus video tomorrow.
You're not the first. So many people are full timing in RVs today but your safety comes from being in a relatively busy campground with lots of eyes. During the spring/summer, there are thousands of vacationers filling the campgrounds. During the off seasons and in "dispersed camping" areas, you don't have all those nosy neighbors keeping watch. Never forget that thieves are low lifes looking for opportunities to steal your stuff, especially RV ers from out of state that they will never see again.
Thank you, that could definitely be exactly what happened. From now on, locked and covered for sure!
It's always a good idea to file a police report even if you believe there is virtually no chance of resolving your specific case because it gives them better data about how, when, and where to commit their resources.
You're right. We made a Big Mistake, here's our update: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
My Dad always joked that RVers didn’t mess with anyone else’s stuff because we all had keys to each others’ rigs. Sadly, those days are gone it sounds like.
Not so, we changed all of our locks. It's just prudence to do so.
@@naknaksdadn572 My dad used to joke eating yucky food (to us kids) would put hair on our chest. Now you say "No so. Kids don't grow hair like that."
@@C.Church Huh? Locks have generic keys. i made a suggestion to have the locks changed.
@@naknaksdadn572 My dad also used to joke that if the scary dog bites you, bite him back. Now you suggest: No, not so. Crossing the street is the prudent thing to do.
@@naknaksdadn572 they were sharing a memory from childhood..good grief.
I'm a manager for Lowe's and you would be shocked how much theft happens on a daily basis. If you guys ever want to go to Mt Rainier National Park in the future let me know. I have land super close to the park entrance.
That's awesome. Paul and I met in Silver Creek! So sorry that thefts are happening so much at Lowe's. Here's our update where we admit our Big Mistake: czcams.com/video/0ZEYr0WZoH8/video.html
As a retired picr officer, I spent most days taking pice reports of various types of theft.
Just today.In my retirees group.Police in Nashville showed where they conficatrd/ Arrested 4 teenagers who stole multiple hand guns, drugs from unlocked cars.
BIG no.No.
That gun could be used agsnist , You or fsmily..
Yes .Always file a police report .
Statistics are how Depts. Resource funds.. Assign officers.
Keep the faith. Keep RVing.
It does suck… but I learned something in Marine Corps boot camp… thieves will always break locks, but locks keep honest people honest. Sorry to hear about the loss.
Agreed. All we can hope is for our stuff to be inconvenient enough for thieves to just move on to the next target.
I place hidden game trail cameras around my camp sites.
If they're hidden, they won't deter a thief. All you'll have is a picture...and probably not a very good one...of someone walking off with your gear. If you're in the RV and awake, then you could jump out stop them, but if you're not, you've got nothing but a picture of your thief.
And the thieves always wear hoodie with face mask. You'll never id them
9 times out of 10, video footage wont do anything for you.