2024 BMW 1000XR - Compared - Suzuki 1000GX
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- I ride them back to back to see just how close is Suzuki's first try at the "crossover" group to BMW in their first year, since BMW has been making the XR since 2015.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Different
2:00 Shopping List
3:20 Engine & Transmission
6:22 Autobahn
9:56 Suspension & Brakes
12:11 Ergonomics
13:48 Little Village
15:56 Handlebar Switches & Display
16:43 Verdict
17:25 Worth 2k More
19:02 Which Would I Buy
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Scott, I really enjoy your no-nonsense approach to bike reviews. It’s not so journalistic in nature, covering specs and features like a bike launch, but more of a “real-rider” review with aspects regular riders care about. This approach mixed with a bit of light cynical humor makes for a delightful viewing experience. Thanks for what you do, sir!
I just picked up a 2024 S1000XR in this exact spec, Gravity Blue TE. And OMG what a bike! Coming from super/hypernakeds like MT-10 SP and KTM SuperDuke i’m amazed at this bikes capabilities. I think it’s going to be a happy ownership experience.
Great review appreciate the common sense thorough, honest, straight talk.
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In usa you can get the Suzuki for thousands less than the base s1000xr. And the suziki will spend less time at dealership
Another down to earth, real world review and commentary that’s also entertaining. Thanks! When I was in Germany with the US Army, my adventures on the Audobon we’re always cut short with either construction or people dawdling in the left lane.
Yep! That is always the problem, no need for speed limits, construction and traffic IS the speed limit.
Absolutely love your videos. So much detail but never boring. Wish I lived in Germany so I can really enjoy a bike like this on the autobahn...
Riding a motorcycle on the Autobahn at high speeds is not enjoyable. Way too much wind and noise.
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO !!!
Yesss! Thanks for driving fast this time!
You ride a bike, drive a car, fly a plane.
It is so obvious you had a great time on the XR judging from the amount of your laughters whilst riding 😄
Awesome video! I love that bike! Best!
I have to admit, after several superdukes and Tuono’s the XR for me is the best bike I ever had
Same here.
I had a 2016 1000 xr and loved the bike. I was thinking of getting the new 1300 but the xr has always been on my mind. This 2024 might do it.. we will see.
Sounds close, but I think I’m with you in choosing the BMW. Ride often and ride safe ✌️
Great review. Curious how you’d compare this bike to the multistrada GT you tested a few months back? I know most people compare that bike to the GS but engine and drivetrain wise I see it comparing to this one…
Damn. This is the first time I see you try get to the top speed. It tells a lot about the bike 😂. Also it proves my point that every biker out there will get wild on right bike 😅
In the UK.
GX £ 14,999 with luggage and heated grips.
XR TE £18,850 with luggage.
Presumably that luggage cost includes the panniers and topcase you cannot get, even as an option on the GX? Along with many more included extras, the actual price difference is much smaller. Plus the low suspension option and a wide range of seats and a ton of accessories. The XR is an evolution in its third generation. The GX is new and they haven’t thought the bike out properly yet. It has a lot to catch up. I know what I’d buy, every day of the week.
@MH-xd2nd Panniers. Spec for spec. The XR is £4k more. GX is cheaper to service, cheaper to insure, but agreed, I'd rather have the XR. The XR doesn't offer anything more than the GX other than 'premium material' 20hp and 4nm.
Checking at launch and still on the Suzuki site it is £14799 not including luggage (£1390) or heated grips (£300) or centre stand (£470). Seems despite it only just being launched they’re already throwing it all in with the + version and dealers are already discounting further. This is what got Suzuki into to dire financial trouble 15 years ago. Fast forward a year or two and I suspect they will be struggling to give them away.
@MH-xd2nd Never got of their website. Dealers. Like my local one have them in at £13,199, with panniers, 13,999. Heated grips thrown in for free. Ultimately, it's personal preference. A used 2023 XR TE with say 3k miles is around 13-14k and cones with 2 year warranty, a brand new GX is the same but had 7 year warranty..
If you keep your bikes for 2 years and then change, go bmw. If you want it longer term, then the GX..
one of my favorite motorcycle channels, ( but i cant watch xr dirty)
Interesting and thanks! Getting pricey! Also regards and blessings to Tina. She is on our prayer list.
Limited availability on parts in the USA. Matter of fact very little access to BMW dealerships in my area.
For all the added features, and higher build quality I would go with the BMW.
Bmw higher build quality?
Ever owned bmw?
Hi, could you review Honda X-ADV 750?
Scott on a scooter - funny idea.
Nice comparison Scott. I considered the Suzuki before chopping in my 2022 XR for a new 2024 XR. I must say the 2024 has been improved subtly across the board. It’s smoother, has better fuelling at low speed and the seat is more comfortable over the 2022. I’m sure as you say the Suzuki will come down in price over time and also improve with feedback and development. 👍
No doubt about the Suzuki reliability, what do you think on BMW, is it reliable also in the long run? Trying to choose which one to buy. Thanks
I’ve had lots of BMWs over the years with very little trouble. My 2022 XR had a sticking indicator switch when I pulled it out of the garage after winter but that was quickly fixed under warranty. I did 10k miles on it with no other issues. I’d recommend the XR no question. Only had a couple of Suzukis (sv650 and a Busa) both reliable but reckon the build quality of BMW is superior not to mention the better resale value.
Can you do a compare of the F900XR to the S1000XR? I’m thinking of upgrading… or perhaps thoughts on moving up to the R1300GS instead?
I traded my 23 S1000XR for a 24 S1300GS. XR is an incredible bike, but the buzz at 80mph (interstate riding in the US) made the mirrors useless. Also, cruising in 6th, the RPMs were just a little too high & frantic for me. I've never liked the looks of a boxer motor, but talk about endless low-down grunt. I took one test-drive on the 1300GS and was convinced. It's actually smoother and not even trying hard at 80mph. For sportier back roads, the XRs brakes and shifting are much better. For 2-up short trips, the GS is king w/ adaptive cruise control, ride height, blind spot monitoring, and rear pre-load. My wife prefers the GS... but, it did cost $6k more!
At least in the US, BMW bikes have a best-in-class 3-year warranty, which is important and valuable. Fully spec'ed, the XR has TPMS, which I find to be a very important feature.
The XR paniers and top box system are top notch. I rent the XR when I go on Euro tours and I love how it all works. I'm not sure about the GX.
They need to update the switch gear to be backlit and add a proper brake light.
All the good points for the BMW to climb on top. What doesn’t work for me is the vibes that both have, albeit the 1000GX has more, because when I ride it’s for about 250 per ride, to say nothing of the vibes making it safe to ride for that length of time without too many stops taking too long. I can pretty much have the same fun on my 1250RT and spend several hour days touring. Love your reviews.
Hey Scott, are you by any chance going to rewiew the new 2024 Yamaha Tracer 7 GT?
I would like to, if I can get my hands on one.
Do quick shifters damage the gearbox’s.
The s1000XR really could do with the shift cam engine for the lower rpms.
Yep
The S1000 shiftcam does not have a low lift cam profile for low speed riding like the GS version. It’s designed for ultimate higher power, which is why they didn’t add it to the standard XR.
How would the Tracer 9 GT+ compare to the S1000XR?
They're not comparable, XR is much better bike, once you test drive them you'll see.
Better engine (120 vs 170HP) suspension is much more planted and comfortable and adaptive on the XR
Brakes are much better and stronger on XR.
Display resolution and clarity in better on XR and so on.
Get a used XR and keep the change.
For the $2k. BMW all day.
Close in price???Prizes in the Netherlands for BASIC SUZUKI GX 18.499 (incl 6 year warranty )and BASIC XR +/- 26.400 🤔.
What about reliability? Are BMW motorcycles dependable in the long run? Anyone can help ma please
Not anymore,too complicated and too many parts that goes wrong, even their engineers can't fix them on occasion.
The reasons to get the Suzuki are always: reliability, lower cost of repairs and DIY. However with more complexity, it becomes harder to work around the cost cutting measures. The front brake, for example, is very hard to upgrade on your own, because it’s tied to cruise control. It’s just too much hassle to get it right off the show room floor.
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Scott,you ve ridden almost every bike.can you give me a little help and tell me which bike had the best wind protection in the adventure(or sport turing with high handlebars) category in sub 12k euros price?same heigh as you
Well, right off the top of my head...
Sport/touring: BMW900XR & Yamaha Tracer900 do very well
ADV: 900 Tiger & Moto Guzzi V85TT & Versys 650
(but the V85 has to be the new one, 2024 model year, they really improved the aerodynamics this year and it's now manually 5 position adjustable.) I just rode it again this morning for a shoot that a company was doing.
@@NothingToProve thanks..i really like vesrys,but i want more powerfull motor.thanks again
The exhaust sounds better on the BMW when you put it into Dynamic Pro.
only when the valve opens, typically mid-high rpm, even in Dynamic Pro. Although you can tune it to be open always.
@@willdebeljak7062 I have the 2024 S1000XR and the exhaust pops and bangs in the Dynamic Pro setting.
@Seale-en2fp yeah but the valve is still closed and muffles the exhaust noise
Why the forged over the carbon?
Stronger, cheaper, more durable.
Hi Scott, if money was not an issue, would you purchase the M1000XR over the S1000XR? I realize the M does not have the hard luggage capability and the smaller screen, so not as good for touring. I also saw that BMW is speed limiting the soft luggage pannier to 130KM, which is crazy on that bike. Ducati can make the RS with hard luggage, not sure why BMW cannot.
if your not riding @ 10k-14k rpm than save your money. The S1000 XR is stupid fast already for street riding.
Hi Scott, additionally what you didn't cover is used market prices. In my experiences the BMW prices are much more stable than the competition. The Suzuki is too new to really say something, but I think future reviews/comparisons could really benefit from this information.
Yea, I mention the BMW will keep its value more than the Suzuki near the end of the video, no one ever does a chart or comparison simply because each country has different values based on availability/sales/network/opinion of the bike...etc.
take care,
Scott
I wonder if a re-map could could fill in the BMW's sub-4000RPM band and get it on par with the Suzuki, get rid of the low-RPM ultra-lean burning they have to use for emissions. If I was spending that kind of money it would be a no-brainer (if it's do-able). Not that I am, but intrigued by these bikes because they bring back fond memories of the turn-of-the-century FZS Yamaha Fazers.
Dang really? I guess in the USA it is just 3/36k ?
Really need to throw in the cost of panniers for the XR. Quick check says another $1.500 USD Bmw bags I think are 32L and the Zooks are 27L . So if you want bags, ( I do ) the price difference is more like $3,500. I have had an XR for 9 years as of last week. Believe the GX is the closest competitor to the XR and has got me thinking now that I have 80K miles on it.
@@valebliz Reliabilty has been good. Only issue I have had was a bad stator at 67K. Once I got the bike set up the way I wanted it, I have been hard pressed to find a better bike for what I do. Nine years in, still looking. I extol the virtues of the XR all the time and two of my friends have bought them. There really isn't anything they do not do well.
Id take the Susuki , less maintenance, cheaper by price and maintenance, more service centers , cheaper parts and more reliable.
Why should the Suzuki have less maintenance? It also is not more reliable.
How is sitting on XR compared to others? Not just Suzuki.
Not a fan of in-line fours due to lack of torque but I’d have the BMW.
I have test ridden both of these bikes and preferred the BMW. The foot pegs were too high on the Suzuki so there wasn’t much leg room and the XR felt faster although I loved the suspension on the GX.
You are the first peron I have seen, commenting on the foot peg position of the GX in a similar way to me. I sat on the GX in a show room and at 190cm my calves were touching my hamstrings and I couldn´t move my legs anymore. That was in regular jeans, not even riding gear. And even though I do go to the gym and don´t skip leg day 😛, I would not say that I have massive legs.
@@Wollestar I am 183cm tall and like my legs stretched out. I believe the comfort seat on the Suzuki is a bit higher than stock so that would create a little more leg room but likely still not enough for me. Also found the motor a little underwhelming, it only had 30kms on it so no doubt still very tight but certainly felt slower than the BMW.
@@valebliz maybe they had a low seat option or whatever. But I didn't fit at all
Bring back the old intro music...
I'd have to choose the Suzuki due to price and dependability
You're seriously going 160 mph in jeans? This is a low-risk high-consequence situation. MotoGiant just got his foot degloved from an 80mph wreck.
Between Suzuki and BMW (I've owned 4 Suzukis and 1 BMW), I'd lean towards the BMW; whenever I'm at any Suzuki dealership trying to get warranty work or parts, I get treated like trash. In contrast, BMW repaired my BMW out of warranty (twice!), and even asked if I wanted to test ride the S1000RR. The Honda/Suzuki/Kawasaki/Yamaha dealership experience is truly wretched.
At 160 most gear is probably irrelevant. Aside from maybe airbags.
Yea, gear will protect me at that speed? 🤣🤣🤣
@@NothingToProve Full high-quality leathers aren't a vaccination against a high-speed wreck but they sure help. I had a highside on a 3rd gear corner on the street (of course it was one week after a trackday), slid for what felt forever, and the leathers were barely scuffed. Most high-speed wrecks aren't fatalities, anyway. Most people survive them.
Which country are you in?
MotoGiant's bike crushed his leg. No amount of leather or boots will save you from a 500lb bike falling on your leg at 75mph.
How much is the BMW's 3 year warranty worth compared to the Suzuki's 1?
The BMW comes with 5 year factory warranty.
4:04-5:05: Lack of grunt out of cruising RPMs and outright preference of Suzuki motor leaves me feeling OK with my Pikes Peak. I can roll on the throttle in any gear accelerate from same/legal speeds to illegal speeds--no fuss. Yes--overpriced. I'd still take a Porsche Carrera over a mid-engine Corvette, too. Both great.
In this price point? Hayabusa all the way- fame not hype (if you would enter the pub and say XR or XS? 🤣🤣🤣)
Wind buffeting is horrible. Even with windscreen in upper position. I have ridden it 2w ago.
Compare it with Multistrada 2024. Duc is nice & quiet on 200kmh.
Suzuki, better looking.
Lol no way
First of all I would recommend to take English lessons and learn to build a whole sentence.
@@markm9978😂😂
Not?
Thanks for the comparison Scott. Also worth mentioning is that the Suzuki does not have a factory top-box as an option. This, and that fact that the Suzuki's windscreen is non-adjustable while riding are two negatives that are hard to overlook. The price difference is interesting, depending on which part of the world you live in. Here in NZ the Suzuki with panniers but no centre stand or heated grips (extra cost options) is NZ$29k. The BMW, which has just launched here, fully optioned but without luggage is NZ$39k. Panniers and a top-box would take it to about NZ$42k. Is the BMW the better bike? Probably. Is it worth the more than thirty percent extra cost? Probably not.
Japanees bike easier in maintenance and more Reliability than European bikes
Everyone knows that this generalisation is not true.
@@markm9978everyone that's experienced ownership of both, knows the answer.
I see what you have proven here
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