Can a $15 Spray Gun Out Perform a $700 Spray Gun
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2022
- In this episode we review the difference between cheap and expensive spray guns! We also review budget spray guns that will give you the combination of a quality spray gun at an affordable price!
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Expensive:
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Budget:
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Iwata Air Gunsa:amzn.to/3iMYxPH
Cheap:
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Paint Gun Cleaning Kit: amzn.to/3qZ4dXM
Gloves: amzn.to/3R9C9eW
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Links to Budget Gun Video:
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Because you are a real pro you can use even the cheapest sprayer and still come out with professional results. This is the best tutorial on painting that I have seen.
Today my boss picked up the digital DV1 to replace that exact Harbor Freight gun.
I demanded he do it.
I've been watching videos about the gun and found this one.
😂
Amazing.
If you can afford it, it's better to buy the best tool you can. Even if you only paint one car in your life, sell the tool after, but don't waste your energy and motivation fighting bad tools. If you end up with a crappy paint job, make it YOUR fault, not the spray gun's.
Yes. This goes for all projects (I do a lot of house work/ carpentry): though midgrade are fine. A BAD tool will make you never want to do a job again: all the difference.
I agree, in the long run your investment can pay itself back quick
Agreed ! My Black widow is awesome …, I now use my $39 gun for primer only … what a difference ! Especially now knowing the right psi out of the compressor and psi to the gun and air flow and paint flow …. World of difference
Good thing there’s color sanding..
Ive never regretted buyin a expensive tool, maybe buyers remorse for spenning so much but Ive always regretted for buyin a cheap one
The Harbor Freight $15 spray gun used in this video was $9.99 on sale until recently.
I have used these guns consistently the last
15 years with Zero problems. I have a $400
gun that I used once. It stays on the “shelf”.
I spray primer, base, and clear with the 1.4
set up. I give the HF $15 spray guns 6 STARS
junk guns are good for a little. when you are matching basecoats in production work. you need the quality with stainless steel needles. the cheap guns are aluminum and the metallic wears the orifices fast.
Do you work at Maaco?
I have used many of the hf paint guns and never had to use anything to turn the knobs they all worked great and i have painted many cars with them and they turned out great and done many touch ups and single panels and blends no problems
Another great video. I especially appreciate you showing the spray pattern before spraying the vehicle. It helps to show the air pressure and how you are adjusting the knobs to setup the gun. I like it when you explain any adjustments you make to the knobs during the spray process.
Thank you for being so willing to test out lower end equipment for the benefit of us who just want to doodle around on the weekend!
Keeping it in perspective I would say it performed better than the 46 times cost difference. I can from experience say these are great for spraying lacquer on wood working projects were you can make A LOT more mistakes in your finish than with auto work. Orange peel buffs out to satin very easy on wood. :)
Control the amount of solvent and drying speed --> control of orange peel.
My purple Harbor Freight gun has sprayed many cars and trucks over the past 4 years and it still works great! Well worth the money spent in my opinion. ;-)
Run Lacquer thinner through it after each job and then disassemble and soak it after every 3 or 4 jobs. The little filter gets gunked up and has to be cleaned out
really well.....along with the area just under it.
How often have you had to replace/whetstone your needle & nose cone? At $15-$20 I usually chuck the gun once it stops behaving as fresh since at that point it's paid for itself many times over and whenever in doubt avoiding just a single unnecessary recoat is bound to be worth not having to guess.
@@funfun5656 I run lacquer thinner through it every time I finish spraying anything. Then about every 3rd or 4th job I dismantle gun and let all the parts soak in lacquer thinner for 20 minutes or so. The little plastic filter is pulled out, cleaned with a brush, blown out with air and set out to dry. I then clean out the area under where the little filter sits (it gets gunked up) I pull out the needle, clean it smooth and reassemble everything. I've been using this same gun for maybe 5 years now, and for a hobbyist like me it works great and always has a good fan. I've got two more "expensive" guns, but this little one works like a charm. Anyway, that's my experience.
Glad I found your channel. I've done many backyard repaints on motorcycle sheet metal with my HF gun with surprising results. The small parts are a diffrent animal and I have not done a larger vehicle in over 25 years. I have an OBS truck to repaint this spring and will practice which gun I'm more comfortable with. I feel more confident in my up and coming project since reviewing your content. I'm older and retired but still enjoy learning. So glad I'm out of the flat rate rat race of 40 years. Thank you sir.
After careful homework watching Your videos here I painted my 1st truck hood and I must say I am Very impressed with your guidance! The hood looks fabulous!🎉
Great video!!
Great tips again Brian, great job.
I bought both DV1s. The base one and the clear one. Both Awesome guns. Worth every penny.
Nice job thanks for showing the difference between the spray guns
Brian, love the videos!
For us broke-ass weekend warriors, can you talk about air compressors, the minimum requirements needed & possible models to use a purple gun?
PEACE!
bought a few brand new Iwata LPH spray guns at a really good deal a few years back as I remember around $200. Paint jobs always come out really nice. My go to is the Iwata LPH300 for both base and clears. No need to be spending crazy money on your equipment. I still have the 400 which I never used
Thanks for these comparisons for folks that have no experience.
Another great video!! Have you ever reviewed an LVLP gun like the RS500 or Eastwood's LT100?
Id say its all down to how often you're gonna use it. Its like anything really, if you're going to use it a lot, you wanna splash out and get something thats going to last.
Well he's mentioned how hard it is to get a decent spray out of the harbor freight gun, I bought the $200 Amazon gun that he's recommended in the past
@@farmyardfab I picked up a 2nd hand devilbiss gti pro for £80. Im respraying my car, after that i doubt it will get much use. Started off a bit meh, but practising and learning is giving better results. A £20 gun a nope, ive been there. :D But a £700 gun, myself cant justify paying that. So somewhere in-between, good gun, which has got good reviews and dont break the bank, like yourself.
I got a desame to the Cheap One, use it to spray crap, homemade tools, suspension stuff and so on, then a 250 dollar devilbiss if i want a good result. I would never paint a car with the cheap one.
Thank you for the info bless your heart
I have the DV1 myself, very good spray gun
Great review 👍🏿
Very well explained.
Thanks for this and all your videos .
My pleasure!
That HB purple gun is really popular , I bought one about 10 years ago ..Works good .
Have both the Astro Euro and the Kiwami. Can't wait to hook them up and see how they suit me.
That gun is a good primer gun for small spots. Thats what I use at home. Also you can roll primer on. What I would love to see is a demo on spectrum black widow hvlp and hte guns. I just bought both. Since my guns are obsolete using new materials available today. My gravity feed guns haven't been used for 25 yrs. I switched to just metal and frame work. But recently started side work in my home shop. I forgot how satisfying paint work is compared to train wreck after train wreck.
Bought the Harbor Freight purple spray gun as I won't be spraying but once on the hood of my truck. I appreciate the info.
I’ve painted over 20 tractors with alkalyd oil based enamel paint through this Harbor freight gun. It’s so cheap I can buy a new gun, water filter, and regulator each project. The cost is so negligible that it’s worth it. Pull the filter out and run acetone through it to get the oils out before painting, and it’s good to go. The only problem I’ve had with one was the trigger was sticking and wouldn’t push down. Put a little oil on the backside of the trigger and worked fine after that. With small projects like tractors with smaller sheet metal parts, the fan size seems about right.
I used a 23$ gun and did a good job. The only downside was dust in my garage, but the job went great for a DIY.
I have the Astro Evo-t. I like it for base. Iwatta W 400 for clear. Amazon blue mini gun for small small jobs, Spray-it 3300 for low cfm use, Masterpro 22 is my midi gun, and lastly an ANI gun for base or clear. I don't NEED all these guns, but I use them all depending on the job and what I feel like using...
Great videos as always, I do want to add a comment about your air regulator valve that turns forever in the cheap guns... Simply have to push up on them a little bit to get the thread to start and don't run them all the way out because they will unthread again. But they do work... Although I would leave it wide open most of the time anyways... because the gun is slow 👍
I love luma guns.. their sun pro light is also amazing. Of course I use different guns for different parts of the process.. but the luma exodus is a great one gun for all if you want
Great thank you so much
I have a couple of guns that were in the $150-200 price range and they are fine.
Today paint is much too expensive to take a chance using a $15 gun.
What size tip do you guys use to spray metallic base coats?
Long time caller first time caller here. I love your videos, and have learned quite a bit from you. Even if I was raised painting in the shop with my Dad, I enjoy watching other methods or styles (whatever you want to call it) for a change in perspective.
I've watched maybe 8 or 9 hours of your content all together, and thought I would share something I just learned. I'm sorry for assuming but until 5 minutes ago I thought you were drunk 90% of the time you made videos. See a couple weeks ago I had turned the playback speed down on youtube for a slow-mo video I was watching.
And at 75% speed, you are 3 sheets to the wind. And I don't know how it took me 9 hours of watchtime to realize it. Honestly I'm ashamed of that a little. But holy shit. I just died laughing. And had to share that. I prefer you WAY more when you're sober. And it's just a bit less time consuming...
Keep up the incredible work! And sorry for the essay. lol
Ya I don't use cheap guns anymore. I've settled on Iwatas . I have the Bellaria and it's excellent especially for base/metallics but my favorite for spraying clear at home is the LPH400. It's a very controllable easy to spray gun. Very smooth finishes and minimal overspray at lower pressures👍
You can find the tips online I bought a 2.0 tip for a HF gun I wanted to shoot some slick sand was going to throw the gun away after I used it. I didn't want to use that stuff in my Iwata gun. It worked some larger orange peel but I was going to sand it down didn't matter.
My GO TO gun for perfect clear coat is a cheap Chinese 1.0mm touch up gun at 40-45 psi. The small tip is the answer except it takes a long time to paint a panel.
Brian I'm a learner painter I have loved you videos, would a iwata w400 be a good gun for me to get for a wide fan and good atomisation please.
Brian, what tips will fit on that harbor freight purple gun ?? change it from a 1.4...
I used the very cheap H.f purple to paint trim pieces on my Goldwing.
They came out looking no different than other parts painted with my "better" cheap gun, Airgunza.
It's matter of how you setup the gun and how you spray...
Sure, it's definitely NOT s professional grade paint job but, nobody is inspecting my paint job and writing critique either.
No show stopper, no bike show quality but, we're happy with the results.
Thank Brian for showing us the difference between cheap spray gun and expensive spray gun. We as customers deserve the best quality you guys.
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I’d imagine that harbor freight gun would spray a lot better with a much higher psi gotta open it up and let that paint flow aswell
I have been watching your videos and have learned a lot, but I was wondering if you have / could do a video on what kind of tips or needles should be used for metal flake paint
I too would like to see a video on when to use the various tips.
DAYUM your skill is phenominal.... can i bring my plane down to paint 😅😎iv enrolled in Paint society College course of paint 👍👍
Hey would one be able to add .008 metallic flake in a primer sealer ?
Would love to see a video on spray ceramic coatings
Never clicked so quick!
Brian ..you should try the harbor freight green cheap gun. Actually sprays nice. I use for sealer.
Hell yea I have a lph400 wanna get a kiwami soon
Have you tried the Sprayit 33000? Also sold from Chinese retailers as the R500? I think Eastwood sells it as well. It's a $100 gun if you buy it in the states and a $50 gun if bought from China. Some youtubers like Underground Paint King really seem to like it. It kind of looks like a copy of the Iwata.
If I wanted to do a professional paint job on a motorcycle fuel tank what paint gun and compressor size would you recommend?
Thank you
So I need a primer gun then base coat gun and then a clear coat gun ? Cheers
I’m thinking about painting my motorcycle, should I go with duplicloro I really want a flat paint job.. or should I go with a gun and a compressor? I’m really working on a limited budget.… what is the minimal compressor tank size and horsepower.. also, where I’ll be painting is an open area would this be all right?…… thank you kindly ,happy Saturday. I forgot to ask, do I really need to heat the paint job to get a correct consistency?…… and how long will Duplia color last if I choose to go with that?? hey thanks again
great video ....
The Harbor Freight gun might work in a pinch, but I saw how close to the panel you had to get just to get the paint on half way decent.
What do you think about the old style siphon spray guns? My old friend, who was a paint and body guy, only used siphon guns. He gave me a old Binks model 7 years ago. He has since passed away. 😢
I'm sure the compressor makes a difference and what kind of compressor should I get???
Got a question about Respirators. Need to paint door jambs, engine bay 62 Plymouth, What Respirator would be safe for a guy to use when spraying Urethane single stage- or BCCC ? Do I need a full face ?.. I will only be painting small areas on this car...it's not something I plan to do much of. Please get back with me. Thanks
$ 16 HF for primer, that astro gun for base and Iwata kiwami for clear, personally I like the 3m guns for base, just my .02
edit, It looks like the airgunsa only comes in 1.3 now
What tip size needs to be used?
Nice 👍
Have you tried the hf spectrum hte I asked my fiance to get me that for Christmas
I love my dv1s
Have you ever tested the spider brand lvlp gun
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Nozzles sold online
Is it me or the whites don't match from door to fender
This has me thinking of what one can do to upgrade cheap guns. Maybe 3D printing parts.
I just painted my truck in parts with the 9.99 purple gun
. Im just a diy hobby project guy. I shot epoxy, primer, and limco s.s urethane all with the same hf gun only because it met my compressors cfm range. I just now picked up their 3 cfm detail gun, also purple just in case i burn through the paint when i cut n buff. Heres my personal hack , upgrade, modification to the purple gun. Remove the needle and polish it. I used 30 micron paper , removed the factory grinding marks to a super smooth tapered tip. I believe it helps fluid delivery. If i could post a couple pictures of my paint to prove that the cheapest gun can shoot a decent finish.
Again. Thanks to Brian Tonietti for these videos and showing us guys we can do the job ourselves.
@@charlespartak2435 I'm gonna keep this in mind, I got a couple motorcycle tanks to paint this winter so it'd be nice if I can make something like this work.
Do i need a different gun for spraying primer, or can the Astro work for both? ALso i have no idea whats the difference between HE and HVLP Astros xD
Buy the best you can afford keep your guns clean. STarted with a banks number7
Uma pistola mais cara, vai ser sempre melhor opção. Pois não estamos sempre a comprar.
What gun would you recommend for a beginner painter base clear and primer
Devillbis FLG-5. About 200.00. shop no more. 🙏
Top Top Top!
Hvl.
Question: I've been using a cheap harbor freight type gun. My paint specs suggest 30-35 psi. Do I stick with the paint specs and try to make it work, or can I play with lower pressures? The paint is an acrylic enamel. Thanks
Do what works best. You don’t have to stick to a particular pressure
If you call Harbor freight they can sell you different tips
If you're at Harbor Freight, go with the Green gun. A little more, but wayy better.
Test the Wallcom slim and ANi f 160 f plus you will be surprised!😉😉😁😁
The most important part of any spray gun is the nut holding it. If that nut is good, it doesn't much matter what the gun cost. If the nuts a bit sketchy, the finish will be rubbish - it's down to the nut, not the gun.
Spraygun yang sangat luar biasa, andai saja saya punya spraygun seperti itu 😢
I definitely see the value in a higher cost spray gun if you are painting cars professionally in a production shop, However if you are not spraying paint in a high volume shop where speed is needed there really is no need to spend $700.00 on a decent spray gun, Not everyone even has an expensive compressor that can build the volume of air needed to spray at the rate of a production shop, What I would like to see is a cheap gun compared to an expensive gun using a cheap air compressor, would you still get the same professional results? does the expensive gun even make sense in this scenario? All of these guys with a $10,000 air compressor set up with air dryers, oil separators showing us the results they can achieve all forget that the DIY'er doesn't always have that kind of equipment available to them while they are promoting those expensive spray guns!
Idk what spray gun to buy. I want a affordable one but in different videos you show different spray guns so now I’m not sure which is best. I only want to paint from time to time
I hate that hf... BUT i do use it for primer lol
Can you compare that $700 gun with the most expensive gun at harbor freight? Thanks
I've had the $24 green, and $124 grey/blue Harbor freight guns and I will say the $124 gun was pretty decent for the first 2-3 jobs. After that, even though I break down and clean every time, I think it's not spraying so well more and more each time. Gonna move up to the 3M performance line, and eventually get that DV1 for CLEAR
you did nothing wrong. good job breaking down the gun to clean every time. its simply the cheap aluminum used to build the needles and other components. if you buy the DV1 or any other quality gun IWATA, SATA etc. and continue to clean it like you do. Your kids will inherit them.
@@kylebachman4477 Sounds amazing! 😍😍
Hello Brian, I followed your Amazon link to the Iwata Kiwami and was going to purchase it. I noticed that it does not have the green authentic certification sticker on the left side of the gun near the trigger that yours has in the video. Do you know if this could possible be a non original copy of the real gun?
Mine had the green hologram. It came off first cleaning!
Iwata Kiwami 4 is all you need 😍
Completely agree, I've sprayed anything from epoxy primer to base, candy,clear and single stage with mine and a little 20 gal dewalt compressor!!!!
@@BiggMoInc73 I had my super nova stolen a few yrs back and was distraught didn't think I could fall in love with another gun again. I still miss my nova but this filled that emptiness in my heart a bit 🤣🤣
Great video, Brian. The demonstration was very clear.
@@ANDY-we7mr you won't be disappointed
I was looking at the kiwami from an unusual angle and noticed it says for use in country it was sold. I know I got yelled at for having the bellaria at my job. Perhaps it's not kosher regarding the epa.
Greetings, I am Rojhat, I have been following you for a long time and I admire your work. I am currently interested in auto paint business in Tennessee. I would like to come to you and improve myself, can you help me with this?
he installed paint filter upside down
What do you use to filter the air?
A filter
A kremlin sprey gun, dont think they exixt anymore was the best spray gun i had ever used. Better than the devilbiss guns.
Excellent video. The problem I see for us DIY painters is that with a more expensive gun you need a higher rated CFM compressor. I myself have a 30 gallon 4.8 CFM compressor and the guns you recommend are surely for around 8 - 10 CFM compressors. What would happen if I do buy a 10 CFM gun and use it with my 4.8 compressor? Would it work fine for small panel jobs or will it not even atomize well for small jobs? Thank you and keep up with these great videos.
The pressure required for a gun has nothing to do with price. It all depends on the design of the gun. An HVLP gun needs more CFM than other guns.
@@reefhog I know what you mean, but it actually does since you will be hard pressed to find a quality gun that is rated for a CFM of around 4.
@@GJJC13 The CFM is only what the compressor pump generates. You should be able to paint single panels with your compressor. The storage tank will have enough air to spray at 30 psi, long enough to paint a door or something like that. A large panel, like a hood, you will be pushing it, but you can lower the pressure a bit to make it last longer. Ideally you want a minimum of 10 CFM.
@@reefhog ah ok, thanks
My fiancé has been a auto mechanic for 13 years, I really want to “wow” him this year for Christmas and he’s good with paint as well but what is a gun he will be excited about and is some what in budget, under $200. ?
The astro
Do you fully break down and clean all of your guns?
Every time
A wise tradesman said to me many years ago. There are three choices. Price, speed or quality. . . Now pic two.
What do you think about 3m beginner paint gun kit
Love it !!!
@@PaintSociety thank you
When you get a pattern heavy on the top and bottom it means your air pressure needs to be lower. I would like to see the pattern on the cheap gun with less pressure. It's been my experience that every gun has a pressure that works best.
need a before pic