Harbor Freight Black Widow Review
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2020
- Harbor Freight's BEST Gun is put to the test and what better way then to use it on an Exotic Car! Come and take a look and see raw reactions from initial unboxing to laying paint. Kick back because this is going to be a good one!
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Clear: 30-32 PSI Fan and Fluid Wide Open
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Love how you’re leaving the fan and psi in the desc. Helps beginner home painters like me a lot!
Yes. You all asked!
I was gonna say the same thing, I don’t have to spray water on paper tweaking the settings for an hour trying to figure out what it’s supposed to look like 😂
You should have to spray water to figure s#!t out... It won't tell you.
@@PaintSociety when u say fan wide open u mean based on travel of the adjuster or based on the little circle indicators?
@@markreinders2261 wide open meaning the last big circle.
I like the fact that you sand your parts outside the booth , it always gets me to here painters complaining about trash it their paint when they sand their car or parts in the paint booth .
Brian I love how you started putting subtitles on all the stages. It makes it a lot easier to follow. Great video as always.
Lynn Hooley, I didn’t see subtitles when I watched his video. I was able to make them appear using a CZcams setting though. I do agree that subtitles are very helpful. 👍🏽
He is referring to subtitles in regards to what I was doing at each step
That is one of the biggest criticisms in the comments so I wanted to make sure that I explained each step the best I could. Glad you noticed
@@PaintSociety You nailed it with the Subtitles and the names of products and air pressures
Dude i was gonna wrap my 95 M3 but you literally are giving me the confidence to try a garage paint job at home. I dont expect perfection, but with your videos I think i can get damn close!
RDDC just got done spraying a metallic blue in my garage with the $15 purple gun. HOLY SHIT!
This is 100% where I'm at
Me too!! 98 and 99 M3s!
Jon Ellwanger wanting to do a paint job on my 06 Silverado. Thinking of buying 2 $15 guns 1 for primer and color 1 for clear. I did body work for 3 years and sprayed a handful of cars when painter was out so I think I could get a pretty decent paint job.
Just remember it's all in the prep work. Do a good job on the prep, and it will come out nice.
Saying goodbye too others paint channel. Tis is my favorite now...
He's got a lot of knowledge, And yet so humble , you gotta love it 🙂👍🏽, I'm like a sponge soaking it all in whenever I watch your work .much respect.
your notes during the process are extremely helpful. I'm learning alot. this is more useful than the classroom
i have the HF nickle plated gun..paid $60 for it 3 years ago and love it... puts paint down much better than the purple gun i have from HF imo...
I really enjoy your videos. Very helpful and you make them fun to watch. Thanks Brian!
Automotive painting is an art and you my friend are an artist. I really appreciate the gun settings on the description throughout the video!!!
I always wondered when you would do this video! Nice job!!
Awesome job as always,,that bumper was beautiful,,thanks for the update on t shirts i will be getting a few
That's some 1st class paint booth you got there. I don't know anything about painting but you've got a real nice setup and some very fine editing for this video. Thanks for putting this up.
love this Black Widow, for 15 year I owned the best custom Body Shop In DC, now Has my own personal shop here in the Tropical Dominican Republic. Will try this gun. Thanks for your videos, love it.
Love how you explain every nozzle and function 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Awesome video man! That title is on point! I did not know it was factory flow coated, thats sick! I really enjoyed this video. The pace of the video was perfect and I watched it from start to finish and before I knew it 12 minutes passed. Keep up the good work and I will see you up in my neck of the woods soon!
Thanks bro. Really pumped about what’s to come for our channels. Feels so awesome to grow together !
I's that what taking it back down to 600 and applying more clear is called..,? I'm just curious other than having more clear ... does it actually give it more shine? And why ...,? Total newbie as sanding my clear down now and thinking about doing it cuz I have more leftover.
Thank you so much...you channel and tips are a blessing for newbies
Thank you for a great DIY video your a awesome painter / body man I have learned a ton from you hope all is well be safe . BK in CT
Thanks Brian!
Watching your motion as you spray is amazing, you seem to flow with the contours of the job at hand. Another amazing video to watch and learn. Thanks.
Beautiful paint job. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Like how he explains pressure and time between coats other videos never told me how much time between coats and his specific about the sanding procedure.
1 cigarette between coats.🤣 (coughing)
That's what the old-timers used to tell me
Thanks for your videos, entertaining and educational! Well done!
Every stroke of the Pen u make, every stroke of process u take, every achievement u make, dollar u make!!!
You are the best, Brian, thanks for sharing your knowledge brother, I already liked and subscribe.
Improving a lot on the content of your videos.Always watch them.From PR ,feels closer with the internet.Thanks a lot for your hard work.GBY!
Yes. I’m learning about editing and filming as as you are learning about paint.
Awesome video bro was waiting for you to review this gun out, thanks bro and stay safe during these crazy times!
Thanks Mike!
Thank you!! I learn a lot from your videos 👍🏻
Another great video with easy to follow, detailed explanations. Watching your videos take me back to my days of painting. I went a different route in career paths but I absolutely loved OEM painting and custom painting. 👍🏽 keep up the good work.
Oh that’s awesome to hear. Thanks !!
I am a Cabinet shop/ woodworking finisher. I use the Black Widow, Spectrum and Central Pneumatic $75 gun to spray die stains and toners. So far they have worked flawlessly for our large production shop. Typically, woodworking finishing products are very different than automotive paint products. Application of spray is much heavier. However, I do a lot of high gloss paint which is much closer to an automotive process. Even for Cabinetry I wouldn't use the CP $75 for a final coat, but both the BW and Spectrum do well for me. When spraying high gloss on wood or MDF you still need to scuff and buff to get the best results. For these reasons, I watch this channel. Best paint channel on YT. Someday, I will get the b@lls to paint my truck.
That’s awesome to hear and glad you’re getting food results. Keep watching and learning !
Jon Woodworker What tip size do you use for woodworkingI’m guessing you have a large 13+ cfm 80 gallon compressor? I’m toting around a Cal Air Tool 4620ac hoping to purchase the hte version to spray GF finishes.
@@mitchellkasdin1899 My compressor is a Kaeser KS25T..so lots of air. I also mainly 95%, use a Kremlin system which has it's own pump. Kremlin has their own tip format which is different then regular spray guns. They use the same needle and you only switch the cap to match what you spray. As for my cup guns I mostly use 1.7 needle cap combo as woodworking finishes are usually a lot thicker than automotive finishes. When I do high gloss conversation varnish or lacquer paints, I will go as low as 1.3 tip and cap combo.
@@jonwoodworker do you paint plywood? Building some subwoofer cabinets with 3/4” plywood and wondering how to seal the edges before painting hi gloss black.
@@jcrroadie Option 1. Take it to a local cabinet shop and have them edge tape the plywood. 2. Fill the edges with wood filler or bondo. Then prime and sand the edges until completely filled and smooth. Very difficult to get raw plywood edges smooth. Fill, sand, prime, repeat.
Did it again great video very thorough explanation learning something new on every video. Thanks keep them coming 👍 stay safe 🙏😷🙏
Another excellent job Brian its the painter that makes a great paint job not always the gun and you have tried the cheaper gun and still made the paint look like it's been sprayed by a top end gun
Thank you Brian!
Amazing video Brian!!🔥🔥
Thanks Chris!
So I'm a house painter 24 years in my spraying is on point.Dont know nothing spray guns but I bought this guns to test my self and Used it 1s so far and so far and they work
Im 37 years old , and sense a kid i have always wanted to be a car painter(bodywork) . I have knowledge of buffing paint and restoring it . Now that i been watching your videos i will work in my old honda 97 civic that i will passed on to my daughter. Keep up the good work and im going to give it a try to this black widow gun thanks Brian.
That’s awesome. Never too late to start and that civic is a great starting point for you to learn!
Thanks Brian , if i have a question im going to be bugging you!!
Brian, great job on the video. Love that you are thorough and explain to your audience like they are students. Most, if not all, are all here to try and learn something. Keep up the great content.
Also, because no one else asked, what's up with that ITR on the lift? Is she your?
Shop project! Check out Acura Honda classic. Videos of the full build
Yet another fantastic Video Brian, im a new subscriber and have learned so much watching your videos and techniques - Top work Brother !!
Welcome Lee!
Just found your channel, great info and tips. I'm going to paint my 1990 ZR-1, trying to learn about affordable guns, and everything else 🤔. I reckon I will practice on an old hood I have, kinda freaking out, but gotta get her done. Thanks for your work, great video. 👍👍🏁🏁
Hey! I’ve said this before and I will again- you’re obviously an amazing painter but you’re extremely gifted as a teacher and entertainer. Your channel is my favorite, bar none. Big compliment coming from me(not that I’m anyone special but I have an attention span like a fruit fly and you hold my attention). Keep it up! Also hope you’re enjoying your recently grown family.
That was a great vid from a great CZcamsr. Nice job thanks!
You have a good channel bro. Keep up with the good content.
Bro is a pro ,period..keep up the tight work.
Thanks, this helps a lot with my aluminum boat project!
Exellente video buddy..
Liked that gun.
Well done and entertaining to watch! You cover a lot in a short time. Thanks for all the details too. Background music comes on a little loud.... but I'm almost a geezer :-)
Brian can paint anything with any kind of gun. Always perfect results. Man. His an artist
No dis on Brian and I don't know maybe he does murals, Aztec warriors holding dead virgins, etc... I think you might be looking for the word Craftsman.
@@jbknowles1812 shut up!....you spelled diss wrong.
Thanks for the video Brian
I've watched your videos off and on for several months now. I just recently subscribed. I'm 55 and have no body shop experience but want to learn.
I was kinda locked into another DIY channel and had been watching that channel for years. I really had no time to dabble in body shop til now.
I just retired. The other channel had got so diluted with side distractions I wasn't learning.
I find your videos very informative, more concise and to the point. I should have been watching you all along.
Keep up the good work and thanks for taking the time (and whoever you work for that lets you take the time) to make these videos!!!!!
Gary thanks for that comment. My channel is directed straight to the point without the drama. I’m glad you have noticed !
By the way what is the other channel ?
@@PaintSociety "My friend Pete", DIY Autoschool.
I think he means well but when someone is learning from scratch the slightest deviation or inconsistency can set the student back.
I didn't watch his channel everyday, just on occasion. I was working and traveling a lot. Very Busy. Now that I'm retired I will watch as many of your videos as possible.
Gary Helms Pete is a great guy but just a little bit too uneasy with his channel, it’s all over the place and really has nothing to do much about Paint anymore
I just picked this up for my liquid wrapping jobs as I needed a diy gun on that day. It did really good. I gotta say Brian I'm interested in the way you spray. I plan on watching more of your videos to see if I can do something better. If you would do a clearcoat educational video I would love to watch it.
Best luck, and you're right. Don't overthink it 😅
what is "liquid wrapping"?
Great review as always. I’m a painter & am always impressed with the level of information in your content. I’m just surprised they’re (Chines knockoffs) allowed to manufacture a gun that is so similar to the SATA without getting sued, when it’s pretty obvious it’s virtually a direct copy. No wonder it sprays so well. Keep up the great work & Cheers from Oz.
China is a communist country. They do not have patent laws. I see what you are saying about selling them here tho.
Pretty soon, everything will be a copy, and then things will stagnate.
@@letsdothis9063 your right I won't by anything from China if it takes me a hour to go through all the hiding that it's made in China I will do it slave labor and no quality....
@@letsdothis9063 Well, no, they do have patent laws... and patent lawyers. But I do take your meaning, and agree with the spirit of what you're saying.
What I learned from importing a few machines from China to USA is most of the time, a Chinese company developed the original design and pitches it to XYZ brand(s). For example this is why we see virtually identical woodworking equipment across several brands. The Chinese manufacturer owns THEIR design and typically has agreements on individual brand color schemes and/or badging (I.e. We'll paint it any color you'd like except gold & black because that's PowerMatic's proprietary color scheme.).
They're not breaking patent laws because the company who's brand you see on the tool does not actually own the design, the Chinese manufacturer does. Additionally, it's not a "Knock Off" as we think of that term because it literally came off the same assembly line, perhaps with a few component tweaks according to the price point of each individual brand.
Hope that helps clarify this issue, as it was initially eye-opening for me too 🙂
This is the best paint channel. Your awsome. I'd enjoy to paint with you sometime
Double gun!
*you're
I'm happy I chose the Iwata Bellaria classic over the black widow. 👍 DIY painters love those H F guns. In the hands of a pro they fall short.
Great video! I used to be a painter at earl scheib. I know what you're thinking lol but painting 5-6 cars a day and you learn how to lay em out. I actually talked them into a SataJet 90. Bad idea with that level of production. It lasted me the month or so that any spray gun would in that environment.
That’s where I started I 1981…. $69.95, any car any color. Guaranteed not to fade for 3 years. Started out as a masked, then sander, bugged the painter to death. They had that cost efficient. Junk painting. Production auto painting was a circuit. I worked at 4’before I opened a collision shop. Painted at all but Earl’s. Pay was good, I got an hour and a half to sand and mask a car.’in by 9’out by 5
In the day Bink’s model 7, sharp dripless cup. Enamel, no hardner…. Everyday different depending on temp and humidity. That’s what made me a painter. Ew products today are so nice. Now I just work on my own stuff
Could you do a video on the Eastwood concours pro? I like the new subtitles on your videos!
very good brother greetings from Honduras 🇭🇳 excellent 👌👌
I bought one out of curiosity of the hype and found it is a very great gun for the price
Awesome brotha! I've been learning a lot from your vids. Question, do you have to spray sealer before base coat/single stage? I'm doing a single stage black on my car and the paint shop said I didn't have to spray sealer as long as I don't wait too long after priming. Primed 2K PCL High Build, wet sand 320 grit, final wet sand 400.
Brian, after the first two coats of clear, I thought for sure you was going to this give this a great review lol
Haha! When you compare it to other guns it just doesn’t measure up.
yup, bought both guns cheap n new under 150$, I still have others even my old binks 69 and 7 guns. I used this to spray a car with acrylic lacquer base , and on flat area it’s not bad at all for the price. 👍🤪
Good to hear !!
You know I always forget about doing that technique, were you based clear let it dry, And then clear twice . That's a pretty cool stuff,
I’d like to see what you can do with really old tools Like an old cup good pick one up at a garage sale or something you could do a good job with it
Appreciate the tips, just bought one on sale!
Thank you for the time and effort you put making these videos. Wondering how is the system of the spray booth, and don’t know if you can do a video explaining that or what things should be considered in a good spray booth?? Thanks again!!
I can Jose!
Thanks for this video. As usual, your videos are very helpful for amateurs like me. Although this gun laid down primer well, I don't recommend it. When I am working on anything, I'm good about keeping track of parts, but somehow when cleaning this gun, I lost the plastic air valve ring. My fault I know, but I called Harbor Freight and they don't supply this part as a replacement. Now I'm stuck with a $200 gun I cannot use. Based on the money I spent, I could have had a name brand gun for less, but when I bought it, I was new to spraying and thus, the products and didn't know any better.
This HTE gun looks similar to an Iwata or Sata, but that's about all I know. If anyone out there knows if this model is the same as some other model, I would be grateful if you could share that information. At least a big manufacturer might have the same part. Thanks.
great gun, i have the 1.4 for base / clear and 1.7 for primer.
Great video, I’ve found though that with this gun you really have to bump up the pressure. I’ve had best results spraying base at 30psi and clear at 35psi. You have to spray a little closer to to panel and move faster also than with other guns. I still would rather use my iwata for clear though.
Iwata for the win!!!
Beginning to see a pattern here, I have been watching a few videos now, it seems no mater what gun you can make it work, the sign of a true craftsman, I wonder given a eggcup and a straw you could probably get a good finish, I think a case its more the "person" doing the job not the tools he uses. Good information nice video, thanks.
Thank you!!
Brian can you do a video on this subject ...recommend cfm needs for spray gun from mid range to high end ws400 for home shops... also comment what size or style or type of quick connection require for proper cfm needs including cfm s correct specs for regulators.. hose size... hose length
That gun sprays like a boss.. Have to grab one.
Idk gonna have to give this one a shot. Havent tried it yet. I'm a pro and to me the fan on that good looks pretty good in the vid bit I guess hands in is another story we will see. Good vid. Why the hate on SATA bro I love most gun makers and SATA has been one of the reliables for me. Good vid. Peace.
Beautiful work! So I thought it was just me, but I also don't like the feel of a Sata in my hand. I know they are a great guns and people get amazing results with them, but they don't feel as comfortable as some others. Thanks for these vids
Not as many people like sata as ya think
Great video Brian, thank you for sharing. I'm not new to paint, just don't have a lot of experience. What is it about the conventional or LVMP rather than HVLP that made you choose this model to review?
Beast video. I love this channel
I've seen all your video's..you're the best
Thank you! Shirt is on its way!
Packaging plays a big role!!!
I love all your videos! I wonder though, it seems like most of your jobs you don’t do any sanding or compounding and polishing after painting. Or is that just the way you make the videos? Do you really just shoot the paint and then reassemble the cars? I think that’s amazing.
Great video! I would never paint my car. Why? Because I did it once. What I learned was the prep was everything....to a point. You can do most of the prep yourself but where most of us leave off and guys like this take over is that painting is as much art as it is science. My first venture was on a trash car I was converting to track use so no big deal. Dirt, nibs, tiger stripes yes I got 'em but it was a fun project. My next project was an e46 M3. I went to 5 body shops who would not paint it. I had a 5 figure budget so I wasn't looking to go cheap but the truth was they could not tie up their paint booths as there business is more suited to repair work and insurance payments. I finally found a guy that does restoration work and he agreed to shoot it but I had to have it ready when he was ready. He was kind enough to show me what to do and what products to get to make it go smoother. In the end it took way longer because I was out goofing off twice when the call came to bring the car. When I did get the car to him he offered me a job based on what I had done for prep.... and he still went over everything because he stood behind his work. In the end a got a great paint job done in a booth. Yes you can spray down your garage and spray outside and do all sort of things you can find here on youtube. In the end, my first painting and the prep for the M3 were fun projects but I would pay this guy all day long simply because my effort is worth his bill and the results I would expect to get. You know you are in good hands as soon as he goes off about the hose on the floor. Buy what you want do whatever you enjoy but in the end these guys are the best investment you can make unless you have a booth. No dog in the fight and I don't know how it came up on my feed today but I enjoyed it. Big thumbs up to you creators that take the time to film and share with us!
Thanks for your comment. Looks like you had a real back story with that paint job. It is all in the prep as that’s 90% of the job. And it is true. Big shops wants our cars in and out and full paint jobs do tie up the shop. I’m happy to hear about your great experience and thanks for watching!
@@PaintSociety Thanks! Subscribed and looking forward to more great content.
Good video my brother, like always 🔥🔥👍👍
Thanks! Gotta link up!
Just realized I've been flow coating my wood working projects for decades and now can do the same for cars.
Sure is a help,showing pressures etc,but what about one on bc/cc 1k paint jobs for DIY’s here in Australia😊
Great painting.... Keep it up...😍😍😍
I use the spectrum 1.3 and it works just fine. I have a small jam gun for those hard to reach areas.
The atomization is great on the spectrum. Mine isn't the Black Widow.
Thanks for sharing!
If you want a hose setup buy the setup from a car wash. Had one in the last place I worked. Takes a little getting used to but works real well
Thanks! like those subtitles.
great info Brian great channel
Another great video. I could watch your videos all day...I have a question though...do you have someplace where I could ask you a specific question? I didn’t think here is appropriate.
Instagram DM works
Good review.
How about a video on similar priced Devilbiss FLG5 or SGK for primer, base and clear?
Sure. !
Great videos dude
Haha I went to HF just now to get a purple throw away gun for some UPOL Raptor, remembered how much I hated the triggers on the purple, grabbed a 1.7 Black Widow. Now I can’t get myself to run Raptor through it 😂
Some of the parts actually interchange with sata. I like your videos I've been a tech over 40rs and painted the first 20. Recently I've been doing paint work on side jobs since putting heat and air conditioning in home shop. The old devilbiss gravity guns don't work as well with new materials. I bought both hte and hvlp black widows. The still put a ton of spray in the air with no booth how to deal with that
My pet peeve is applying that pps lid on the scale 😱😱
Good job , man !
I came across your Harbor Freight $16 HVLP review and instantly became a subscriber! Your videos are the 1st that I have seen that have captions while doing the work so "newbs" like me can follow along.
Now I do have 1 question in regards to this video: why not wet "color" sand with the 400 grit? My theory is that the water would wash away too much of the base coat, am I right?
Great video Brian. I'll keep using my Devilbiss Starting Line guns for now until I can get better at this.
Good idea!
Great video!👍❤
Thanks for the videos Brian
And the reviews. Do you ever make it out to The Sema Show?
If I’m invited I will.
His gun control is out of this world. I so want to have that skill.
My black widow shit out on me and I can’t find anything wrong with it. Got it out of curiosity and it became my go to for Metallics over my sata. Till this last car I did. Only have bottom fan. No clogged ports, no damaged metal, no bad seals or plastic, nothing at all built up in it. That gun was well cared for because of how well it sprayed
Looks great... just shows that when you have experience you can get a great finish out of any gun what is the required CFM for that gun
11.8 cfm @ 35psi
Great video. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I have seen a lot of video reviews of this gun from amateurs who rave about it. I have been tempted to buy one for a while, but for the price they go for now (200-220), I can get a Devilbiss FLG-G5/SGK or an Iwata W-400 Bellaria. Thanks
I wouldn’t buy one if you can’t get it with the coupon for $150. Just not worth it
@@PaintSociety because a lot of people probably buying it lately. HF bumped their price now like 2 weeks ago , so even with coupon it comes down to 179+T
I was able to get it still at 145 few weeks ago.
Damn. After this review it’s going to go back down to $150 lol
@@PaintSociety lol.... Yeah , regular price now is 220.
Jose A I just bought an Iwata w400 on amazon just got it in today and it was $197 without the cup. I would 100% buy an w400 over an black widow for sure!