Bodies Ending Explained
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- Bodies Ending Explained
Bodies, Stephen Graham's genre-defying Netflix series, is a trip.
Four cops find the same body in four timelines and try to solve the murder, with their lives intersecting unexpectedly.
Line of Duty's Graham plays disturbed Elias Mannix in a stellar ensemble cast in a new role. But what happened with that twisting ending?
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Unreal series going to be a classic, whiteman came in clutch and was a legend.
i root so hard for whiteman lol...especially after seeing those disgusting gay scenes of alfred..dnt know wy netflix keps showing this things
@@TheFirstAirbender1036oh so you’re homophobic. Good to know
The actor who played Whiteman was good.
@@TheFirstAirbender1036dude wtf
All 4 of them had contribute to saving the normal timeline, but whiteman indeed did come in clutch with putting the disc behind the frame
Moral of the story. Bad marriage can change the world. Beware guys.
Lol
Lmaooo
Technically the bad marriage saved the world, the good marriage made the bomb explode
until greatest grandfather change his life
I hope MapleWood becomes the antagonist of the next season. Like she comes from a really messed up future.
I love how every detective ended up playing a role in the finale. What a show
This show gives you instant Dark Vibes and is for sure inspired by it. Great show though, it is fun to watch
And very similar to Predestination as well
The comic was written before Dark
Very Dark vibes. Except instead of kids bodies this had the same body
this show was phenomenal i wish i could watch it for the first time again lmao
I didn't get it ,if manic dissiper and was never excited so who created the loop and blow up the first bomb there's something missing in this serie 😅
This is the kind of show you get immediatly bored when you randomly click, but then it surprised. I'm so glad i watched it all, it was so worth it.
@@aboubakrbenamour7825thats a different timeline, the loop/paradox is actually there, but maplewood meet hillington and tell him to change mannix mind, mannix change his mind at the end of life and tell whiteman to keep the recording for mannix kid in future, sarah get the msg and back to the past to give recording for mannix, this moment actually cheating the timeline (like steins gate anime if u watch). so in other timeline or universe (idk which one) the bomb must exploded first then they all repeat again and delete mannix existence.
thats just my opinion, actually im confused where is the real timeline, the world with mannix first or the world withoud mannix like the end
Maplewood is the new Mannix. By going back in time, she created her ancestry lineage just like Mannix did
i highly doubt she did anything significant as wierd woman with no record and heavy disability in 1890, she wouldnt get a chance to procreate probably. Altho she mentioned in one episode that her and her brother were born with the disability so maybe it was a foreshadowing about her loop, her disability being passed down from herself in the past.
@@x340xIn the final scene an alternate version of Maplewood appears in 2023 and confronts Hasan while driving the cab. Possibly to do something evil.
Also in the final shot, the buildings being built in the background say KYAL. Meaning the whole “know you are loved” dictatorship happens all over again.
So the other person is onto something, perhaps future Maplewood is evil and works for the new KYAL, and has come back to confront Hasan to undo everything they did
She would have disappeared like maddix - along with her timeline. Meaning that if she had indeed birthed her own lineage we wouldn’t see her in the cab at the end. That said, why is there an older version of her in the cab when she should be a newborn…
@@SherbertLomon They changed the future, but the time travel anomaly still exists. And the course of world seems to have gotten worse by the KYAL buildings being constructed even early in the background of that scene.
It’s possibly she became evil in the new timeline and went through the throat to confront Hasan
Half* brother, interesting theory nonetheless @@x340x
This is not an explanation. It's just a narration. How is this useful? We already watch this, which is ehy we are here to watch this, right?
Misleading title. No ending is explained here. Just a recap of the series.
Finally a sci fi show that stuck the ending, it made me tear up last 5 minutes ❤.
I was kind of ashamed because I thought I was the only one crying but I couldn't help myself when I saw esther alive and the Elias/mother scene.
Same. I cried as well.
Whiteman dying got me the most. So glad he got a good ending
The throat would split you into 8 time lines, 4 into the past and 4 into the future, hence the markings on the wrist, we also see this when iris goes back to her apartment and checks defoes research in his bag, this is how she knows to meet defoe 4 days later from when he first steps into the throat (seeing as she found him 4 days prior to that) and he says "catch me if you can", He would of been sent to 1891,1941,2023, 2083,2164,2214, but anything after 2053 he may not exist seeing as that future no longer happend or maybe it still exist as a alternate timelime. I belive mannix also got sent to these multiple time periods but we dont see him in 1941 & 2023 from when he travelled from 2053 maybe this is why we see KYAL on the building at the end as he still mannaged to start up the company from a different time period without killing everyone but maybe he does not exist at all now as they broke the loop and he was erased from existence. We do however see iris in 1891 from when she speaks to hillinghead, we dont see her in 1941 and i think maybe she died in one of the bombings as she couldn't of escaped as she couldnt walk, but we do see her in 2023 driving the taxi and she looks to have not aged much. Alot of speculation but it makes the most sence to me 😂 great show anyway.
I thought this too at first but there is only one Dafoe to catch in the future. You don't have to split in the throat but you can. He sent one forward.
@@Tracy-hm3yi when he's explaining he says he tried to catch mannix and felt himself split not that he did it on purpose, seems to me most likely there would be something sent into the future for every place it went in the past, what people aren't considering is that means people in the future with future tech are going to find bodies too, a mannix likely went into the future too, and if anyone in the future found out what the bodies meant then they won't want mannix to be stopped as that means they maybe won't exist
@@maxjackson353 That's a possibility, but when Mannix's time-loop ended, he was erased from the entire timeline, because he was never born to begin with. Everything reset, so to speak. I suspect that the main variable is anyone who steps into the Throat, like Iris Maplewood. We saw her in 1890, and that's possibly also why she was in 2023. She could also possibly be in 1941, which we never see. She has created a new time branch, and let's hope this exciting story continues into Season 2! :)
the weird thing about maplewood in 2023 is that she can drive, although she is not supposed to have the tech for that...
@@sparkle1272001it’s a limited series. No season 2
Sorry, this doesnt Really explain the ending. The ending is with Lily driving the taxi but she is still young, shes driving so shes not crippled, there was no time machine to get her to 2023 so NO this didnt explain anything
4 people go in the time machine. first one is not split in many. 2nd and 3 rd are, but the 4th one isnt.
This show makes no sense lol
As for the lily girl, she was obviously split in 4 different years Like the first guy. I have no idea why. Why she is still there no idea lol.
This show was cool but it has lots of plotholes. One thing the The gay detective did that proves to me this show is wild. When hes in the jail cell and lily shows her tattoos, He rushes to her and checks her eye balls for some reason lol
I agree ! The final episode was pretty poor ! Felt like they really had no idea how to end this show properly !
@@nickmyers3065😂😂😂 I didn’t notice that but it sounds hilarious. But you gotta figure this is 1890 where science fiction isn’t even a thing so some lady talking nonsense shows the same tattoo that the dead man with 1 eye had so him not believing anything made him bug out like wait how do you have your eye 😂😂😂 I don’t know but I’d probly do all type of weird shit to a person telling me their from the future too
@@BiznessBoog i wonder if thats why. All in all good show.
The graphic novel is the same, it's a great concept but poorly executed
Was Iris trapped in 1890 since there's no way for her to go back in 2053? Also, how the hell did Iris meet Shahara in 2023? Did another "Iris" from another universe go back in 2023 to meet and warn her about the impending doom? This show hurts my brain as fuck.
I agree. Showing up behind the wheel of a cab does not explain anything. It's just a big lose end.
I believe the Throat "split" anyone who travels through it. DeFoe, Mannix, Etc all existed in four timelines, which I guess goes with the four lines on their wrists.
@jason but manning was not exactly split to 4 timelines. His grown up self from 2050s travels in time to 1890 and then just ages naturally until 1941. Then we meet him again in 2023 as a 15 yo because he’s a direct descendent of his older self. The one thing I don’t understand is Iris coming back to 2023.
@@kiaaurora What I don't get is that if Elias in 2023 is the "beginning" of his life, (not 1890 because his 1890 IS from 2050 when he went back) and when he didn't push the button in the end, why would he disappear? He should have continued to exist because that is his original timeline.
@@ceciliawong80he was never born
I think this is the greatest show Netflix has ever made
Close but no. DARK is the best one😊
This comment is an insult to Sense8
Pale imitation of Dark. Dark is a masterpiece.
Have you seen Queen’s Gambit??
You ain't seen Dark. That will mind F##k you haha
Fast forward to 4:34 to get ending explained. Everything before is a summary
Loved the show. I was a bit confused with the end plot. I know by stopping the explosion, it meant no loop, no Elias in existence, no time travellers in existence but with the end plot, to me it was trying to say that not much changed. Why would it, if the creation of the KYAL and the throat were not dependant on Elias existence. Do we really know if KYAL creation was solely Elias idea? The only other explanation is there is another parallel time line in operation, either by the real Elias or by Maplewood.
The ending just confirms that they failed to fool the universe and somehow, despite their trying to change the past, nothing really changed. That's why we see KYAL on one of the buildings in the background.... just a sign that the future is the same with Maplewood going back in time to try to change things. The universe wins.
Yea they got rid of Elias whole existence but i guess the universe found another person to push this “KYAL” agenda in the end
@@Vasco224 the KYAL wasnt the problem, the problem was the nuke that killed 500k people. only one who had problem with KYAL was Iris' loser brother :D
Stunning show. Probably the only crime type show I liked. I wonder what that very last scene of some 2053 buildings being stuck in 2023 was about, maybe a message to not mess with time travel or a season 2 sneak peek
Did you just summarize the whole plot without actually explained the ending? bruhhh.
Moral of the story...he ended the loop when he was miserable in his marriage 😂😂😂😂
Because Hillinghead puzzled him by catching Elias off guard by exposing the truth 😂😂 after that his whole attitude changed which caused Polly to be skeptical and find out what was really going on
Could have just grabbed him and tore the piece of paper 😂
Absolutely LOVED this limited series!! Blew my mind, that's why I'm here trying to figure out what TF just happened 😂 thanks for explaining it, I got that final scene in the cab but couldn't quite grasp the explanation of it 😂
know u are loved tho
@@TheFirstAirbender1036it's not a limited series second season can come
@@amritanjalsingh756it’s a limited series on Netflix
try the masterpiece Dark . its like bodies on steroides
@amritanjalsingh756 it was listed as limited. I hope it is. A bad second season will ruin the series. Look at Wayward Pines
What I don't get is how Maplewood end up in the present. She would have been a child assuming she was even born before 2023. I was wondering if she was still alive in 1941 and we would see Whiteman meeting an older Maplewood.
Well she wouldn't have been in 1941 since she never would've gone back to 1890 because the entire time loop and explosion and everything that caused her to go back there was removed. But yes, it is odd how she is suddenly there in the present, and why KYAL shows up there. That's what I came to find out from this video, but instead it just recaps and then confirms that those bits are weird without actually giving an explanation, unfortunately.
@@Phagocytosisthe reason why i think maplewood never go into 1941 because she already had name in that scene and I think its not necessary to add hereself to that timeline, which whiteman already figure it out and go with his last breath to deliver final message. (sorry if my english is not good)
Incredible show, I blitzed it in 2 days. Thanks for the breakdown.
finished it in one sit.
I'm a total loser
If you are a loser, then I am a loser, so I wouldn't call you a loser.
the ending in the taxi doesn’t make sense, its best to forget it (the show is perfect without it). i recommend watching the series “12 monkeys” if you love these types of sci-fi shows with excellent scripts with no plot holes.
None of this would have happened if his mother would have loved him in the first place
Exactly - this all boils down to beware of men with mommy issues
All these people who went back in time 100 years also went forward 100 years? Isn’t that what we are to believe? So the Time Machine is still available in the future? Meaning anything can happen or be happening really
Every event that happened could be explained in a plausible way, except how the loop started in the first place.
That's then a paradox
This needs a pin
I'm here because of that final Cab scene.
Whiteman is lowkey a sort of Batman. A good hearted man doing bad things for the common good. The only thing I don't understand is Mapplewood's ending.. other than that the universe resets itself without ppl even noticing it changed. Anyone else feels like it might've happened IRL ? I mean we had killer bees at some point, then they mysteriously vanished...
something not aligned. It was Hasan who convinced Elias to do it. But in the series, she was trying to convince him not to. So I think there's something far more evil if Mannix is not the leader, what if Mannix is just a pawn, a lesser evil?
Its a limited series there is no new season
Hasan kinda convinced him by taking him to his mother and proving she still doesn't love him
By taking him to his mother she convinced him to detonate. I believe that’s what they mean.
I think the ending is more twisted because of we know that when the bomb explode Mapelwood must have been a child! The first thing she remembered is her mom dies in front of her eyes. So she must have found a way to end up in 2023 as an adult.
The only explanation I can think of is that when she entered the throat she was also split (similar to what happened to Defoe) and sent to 2023. But if that was the case I don’t understand why Mannix was not split and only one version of him traveled to 1890 (unlike Defoe).
@@bianconerointheus6692defoe got shot while he was in the throat, maplewood got her spine ripped out in the throat - those things probably caused disturbances whereas mannix hadnt had that (yes he was shot in the knee but that happened before he entered the throat)
@@m.m.6533 mmm...to be honest I see your explanation way too stretched. But yeah, I guess in all the shows involving time travel you can never expect the whole movie developed without a single plot hole.
@@bianconerointheus6692 or maybe because defoe was so slow walking near the throat, he stood there for quite a time before entering, so that he visually split way before the final entering whereas mannix and maplewood walked/run straight inside
It's quite sad that this will be know as the poster child for this kind of storytelling and DARK will be kept... in the dark. The comic came out first, but hopefully Netflix gets DARK on everyone who watched and liked Bodies' recommendations.
Why is it not english
What are you talking about? Dark is wildly popular on Netflix..
I think it is a new Iris in the car with Hassan. All the others would have disappeared when the time line was fixed. Just like older Hassan did. Therfore for an Iris to be in the past and one who is clearly using her legs to drive out has to be a new one.
But she would only be a child in 2023, I guess she would be a new future Iris sent back to 2023.
Maybe it wqs iris' mother who somehow look similar
@@pushkarghaid831 That would be a twist.
@@pushkarghaid831 unprobable. same haircut? etc. also it looked like she had the Throat tattoo on her hand
if u look closely she has the tattoo on her wrist
Maplesood, In order to maintain the change in the timeline.. she must replace Eliace’s timeline with hers .. she must be born so she must starts her loop by doing the same as Eliace rebirthing her line and making sure it lasts until Defoe is alive .. but this time she was born earlier so in 2053 she will be older. Basically her plan is to reach 2053 go back to 1890 rebirth talk to detective H and maintain her birth line until she’s reborn in the future and meeting detective Hassan uses her help to find Defoe later and go to the throat again.. my guess is by doing this Eliace timeline won’t disappear it will just be prolonged and merge with Maplewood’s .. so Elias plans triggers Maplewood to go back in time stops him and rebirth her timeline .. thus she must always go back to 1890 and talk to Detective H meaning that Eliace’s timeline is still looping and must have maplewood guarding this whole 160 years since 1890 to 2053
1 : Why did Defoe's body appear in four different timelines while Hassan and Elias only appeared in one timeline when using the throat?
2 : From where was the material sourced to construct the bomb?
3 : If Elias needed to travel back in time to become Harker and subsequently "create" himself as Elias, then who initiated the existence of Elias who traveled back to become Harker?
4 : What caused Elias to vanish? Didn't he journey back in time to 2053 to assume the identity of Harker and fabricate a bomb? Thus, there should be a version of him existing until 2053 without a bomb being crafted and lives being lost.
5 : What significance lies behind the tattoo?
6 : Why did future Hassan anticipate disbelief from her present self, despite the present Hassan being fully aware of the surreal circumstances?
7 : For what purpose does Harker preserve Defoe's body in a tank?
8 : What necessitated Polly to kill Iris?
9 : Why did Said choose to end his own life?
10 : What's the rationale behind Hassan discovering the body? Wouldn't it be simpler for Harker to utilize the recordings to manipulate Elias into killing everyone?
11 : Why not opt to return to Sarah's apartment and inform her that you're from the future, warning her that if she doesn't embrace Elias, he will ultimately cause harm to everyone?
1/ because the machine can (and does) send people both ways in time depending on how you move through the field. Iris gets a "map" from defoe that explains it. He moves into (thus beck in time) and sideways (when he get shot) hence forward. Thats why he is split . The other travel in one direction only.
2/ massive consipiracy with a guy with knowledge from the future.
3/ its loop. thats the entire point of the series.
4/ Its a loop, he is his own great grandfather. By not making the jump inot the past he deletes himself from existance. Thats the point of the ending.
5/ no idea.
6/ I would be surpised to be faced with a far future version of myself. And with a literal ticking timebomb sitting next tto her, keeping calm and not risking a panic would be top priority,
7/ Evidences/ holy relic of the cult he is creating.
8/ A witness and potential threat and that she had already done so. Its a loop. Thats the point of the story.
9/ Fear/panic and made to do so. Massive consipiracy head by a bloke with furture knowledge would have massive power to get people to do whatever needed.
10. Because its a loop and she is fundamental to making the loop be a loop and things had to happen as the loop happened in previous loops because its a loop.
11/ eh?
@@jamesmaybrick2001
I regret to say that the majority of your responses revolved around the concept of "it's a loop," which is a recurring theme that often frustrates me in time travel narratives. It feels like a convenient way to explain events that don't logically add up. Regarding the second inquiry, I'm more interested in the origin of the materials rather than his knowledge. Considering the specific timeline they were in, where did he acquire those materials? Lastly, addressing the question you may have misunderstood, Elias initially abandoned his intention to initiate the bombing. However, upon overhearing his mother's conversation with Hassan, expressing her reluctance to visit him, he became agitated and resorted to stealing a phone. If Hassan were to travel back in time and warn Sarah about the impending events, perhaps they could have prevented the entire situation.
i can't tell if this is a real person talking or AI but its not super smooth
The creator said they'd do a second series if people went mad over it... 🤞
Did anyone see the KYAL light up on the building at the end after the scene with Maplewood driving the cab?
My two cents at all these is...first Elias travels 164 years in past (1889 and not 1890) and 164 years to 2053 future as well...and so is the case with others (they all travel in future as well) except Defoe who splits in multiple time periods due to the shot in the eye (probably splitting him into 4 time periods in the past as well as 4 in the future). However all the future versions of the characters get destroyed (except 4 days into future version of Defoe who is crucial in changing timelines) due to change in the 2023 timeline. As for the Maplewood appearing in the end of the series in 2023 that can be just interpreted as a red herring (just to create a buzz for season 2) because we cannot definitely say that she's Maplewood since we don't see her whole face, (she could be some other individual with the eyes and forehead similar looking to Maplewood) if we want to believe the series is a limited one. As for the KYAL, it can be just interpreted as a corporation that makes prosthetics for the people with disabilities that comes into an existence with the changed timeline. In case creators wish to make another season, we can interpret that this ending showed us Maplewood driving the car in the end who might have ended up in 2023 as Defoe was too much in love with her and went 163 years in future to 2053 to meet her and somehow they travelled to 2023 to strive to preserve their 2053 timeline or so. However I still wanna believe in my former explanation and the series to be a limited one.
Was this written by AI? It's more of a recap than an explanation of all the plot holes.
This show gave me so much goosebumps like I never experienced in my entire life!!!
Hands down the best show ever!!!
And Im glad it's just a one off season because I couldnt ask for a better ending!
Watch darkkkkk
For those who don't know this show is adapted from a comic book of the same name published by DC/Vertigo Comic. Consists of 8 issues. Give it a try👍
Came here to find an explanation for the ending - luckily I read the comments before actually watching the video. Yea I’m gonna pass 😂
The ending didn’t make sense. Mannix mum shouldn’t have any memories of him at all. She should’ve disappeared when Mannix did.
So many loopholes… how Elias existed at the first place. How the loop was initiated if elias didn’t existed before loop
Yea its a pile of bullshit trying to be clever.I wish i knew all about time travel theory so i could be even more disgusted with it !
true. Once a story gets hung up in the time travel paradox, there is no way to make it logical anymore.
"Back To The Future" knew that and did better ;)
«ending explained» yet you explained nothing at all - you just narrated everything out loud lol
Can you explain to me how aris is in 2023?
I would’ve love to see all the detectives together
Samee that's what I was hoping for while watching
Really enjoyed it but still don't get how Mannix got back to the past in the first place as how would he know about the "The Throat". Can anyone explain this?
He knows about the whole time travel and the existence of the Throat thanks to the vinyls he recorded for himself (by his past self)and listened.
The ending doesn't show what year it was .. clearly it had been some time ( another birthday for her dad)...but those buildings were being built and u see "kyal" on one of them.. so the cult is alive and well .. just took on another form without Elias??? Where did Elias even get tht saying
I think the taxi scene was in 2023, or not long after. If it was Iris from a different timeline it could have been literally the same day Elias almost set off the nuke, or it could be the original Iris from the future who rebuilt her life in the past (after traveling😮 from 2053 as a disabled person with no identity and no money, and within a relatively short time became a cab driver despite her disability).
@@Sashazursecond option doesnt make sense she would be old
it does not bother you guys that he just “decides” to be his own ancestor? that’s way voting the bootstrap paradox, he basically ignores all genetic/biology rules etc? and through all the years when he wouldn’t travel to, anything different could happen and change the timeline forever. i don’t know, dark is one of my favorite series but to like Bodies i feel like i have to ignore too much holes
So why was she in the cab? For season 2?
Dark meets British tv
I suspect the pain of having her SPYNE ripped from her cause her to appear in several different places. Like Defoe.
Let’s not forget time is tricky. Her going back and changing the past like she did might have kicked off another loop. A better loop.
But it would be interesting to see.
The only possible explanation is if we use the multiverse concept like avengers where one action branches out the timeline into multiple universe like how marvel did.
So 1st timeline / original timeline- Elias exist loop happened bomb happened (iriz didnt go back to 1890)
2nd timeline - Elias exist loop happened bomb happened (Iriz maplewood and hasan unable to change anything despite iriz went back in time)
3rd timeline - Elias never exist since no bomb no loop but Iriz exist in 2023 as driver and KYAL was invented by someone else
However on all timeline Iris do exist where:
In 2nd timeline she could have been born between 2010-2018 and continued her timeline until 2053 then time travel to 1890 and live the rest of her life on the same path with Elias aka Harper (where nothing changed)
And
3rd timeline she born earlier probably 1985-1990 thats why shes a taxi driver in 2023 and someone else invented KYAL or any other possibility which is infinite 🤣🤣
So the timeline where they successfully prevent the bomb is or was never existed in the first place! It just create another timeline which is the 3rd timeline 🤣🤣
Thats my theory 🤣🤣🤣
How did he create this time loop in the first place as it requires Mannix himself to set up his whole messed up family line for him just to be born? How was he born the first time its impossible?
It's called the bootstrap paradox. A sequence of events isolated within a time loop that are the causation of the time loop. It's a strange concept and one I quite like seeing.
@@xenon8117 Ik its technically a bootstrap paradox but that paradox only works when you apply it to 1 specify loop in time. If you take into account all the loops that have already happen pervious this loop the original branch that started the first bootstrap paradox still need the object or piece of info or mannix to be alive to start the paradox. Its still techialy impossible even with this paradox.
You cannot define or explain because it is a paradox. By definition it is contradictory and unlogical, therefore, we as humans do not have certain explenation for a certain chain of events such as the one in the movie. No matter how hard you can try to define or explain when the loop started or ended is impossible. Idk if i express myself clear enough for you to understand, but the overall point of the movie itself is it cannot be explained because the movie is a paradox. It s ironic, but i think this is what makes it good
@@rukkidelicious6624 Yea your right, Its a very weird mixture of grandfather and bootstrap pardoxes. Gota stop smoking when I watch this shit
@@rukkidelicious6624 As beings that experience time in a linear fashion we can't really fathom how a quick of a time loop like that works but it is fun to consider.
Iris still being in the present is a plothole. Since that timeline never happened (Since Mannix never detonaded the bomb), Iris shouln't have travelled to the past in the first place.
This series nothing in front of Dark webseries
You need to use your brain 100 time to understand Dark series
Now DARK did time travel the right way. Bodies was annoying and has sooo many loopholes that make it look so crap when you think it through
I thought this was ending explained, not plot recited?
Ohh I hadn’t noticed the KYAL sign at the end…season 2 maybe??
I loved this show so much ❤
It has elements of Predestination, End Game, Looper, Deadpool 2 and BTTF with good detective work.
Dark
Why is maplewood at the end of bodies?
When you realise that stopping mannix, started the loop in the first place. It all will just happen again and again and again and aga..
Calling a revolver a rifle is disturbingly odd
This can beat dark with a season 2
The throat may have split Mannix and we only got to see the 1890's Mannix's story. So i think the ending might have been caused by the other Mannix who was split and went to future (most probably in 2216)
Try and get you head round why Mannix came into being without the time machine he never exists..
I didn‘t get it…maybe somebody can explane to me. I think i understand nearly all storys in the series but i don‘t understand how it works with mannix. Mannix is his own grandgrandgrandson and he lives in 2053. but how can you live in the future, travel back, fell in love with a woman and whitness your own anvestor…
I didn't get one things, if anybody can explain that :
If in this new world, there is no Alias existence, how this paradox happened?
The taxi driver mablewood is probably future mablewood and not in time mablewood because she’s be younger if that was in time. We only saw her in the past but we didn’t see her other selves. Remember Elias said she be very important. Also there definitely another plan because mablewood planted the seed of doubt by talking to pollys dad but REALLY Elias foster dad said he regret the bomb how would he know that?
this needs to be more popular
This show is 10/10 for me. I see alot of ppl trying to debate or establish timelines, but the truth been told we can never explain exactly when the loop started. It does not have a beginning or end because it is a loop. This is the paradox, this is the magic of the series, the paradox itself. It s something, we as humans cannot define, explain or think, because in reality it is unexplicable. So as fun as it would be to debate or say different theories, it does mot change anything because that s the actual PARADOX. It is not meant to be explained, or to have an ending or a beginning because it is a PARADOX. The pure definition of the word PARADOX, means it cannot be explained, which is ironic, but the movie structured this and implemented this so well that ppl are actually trying to define a PARADOX, which is impossible. Definetly it will age well and I am surprised such show was listed on netflix. Once again 10/10
Oh finally you broke your paradox...well written😊
Watch dark, then u will see a godly Show about a paradox, this whole thing is so badly written
but a loop can be broken
there is no paradox .we know elias's father and mother.everything happens in the future cause they travel from the futur in the past.ca you point me a parados in Bodies?
@@ulrickkamdem9728 there is. the paradox is that if Elias from the future travels back and becomes young Eliases grend-grand- grandfather, how was the first Elias born. Its the same as the "what was first, the chicken or an egg" question.
I thought the hashmarks were iterations of how many times they traveled through the past
Don't explain the ending. Explain how Elise came to be if he were never born, why he keeps a body in the tube, and eho made the time portal... please explain this for me. Thank you
How was Iris able to drive in 2023? Spyne would have been invented much later or were her legs ok?
Maybe she was paralyzed by the bomb?
I thought a time machine was made in new timeline and her leg problem was related the bomb. Disabled people can drive modified cars anyway. I thought maybe in alternate future without Elias, Hassan becomes a commander and Iris is there for a new mission
@@marybeth6026I thought the same first but then I remembered that she and her brother were born with that condition.
Maybe it's a kind degenerative disorder and hasn't developed yet. But she knows something so it's open
I adored this show until episode 6, which required every character to make unforgivably stupid decisions which went against their various character's logic and then I just felt like it was limping to the finish line.
Nothing explained. You just rehashed what we all saw.
Just one point I would like to understand. Since Defoe travelled 4 days before and 4 days after the day he went through The Throat, and he went to 2023, 1942 and 1890, does that mean he also went to 2083, 2164 and 2216 as well? If so, then Elias will also reappear at 2083, 2164 and 2216. Basically they need to kill Elias in those time too to prevent Elias from restoring the timeline where he went back and successfully created his utopia over the timeline Maplewood caused by seeding doubt in Elias?
With the loop deleted, Mannix never existed, so he never traveled through time in either direction, same with Iris, it doesnt matter if she appeared in 1941 and 2023 etc. because since Mannix never existed she never went back in time to warn Hillinghead
@@x340x But when Elias Mannix went back to 1890, he also went to 2216 simultanously. The timeline that he went back to 1890 and to 2216 simultaneously is the original timeline. Then he created a new sub-timeline as Julian Harker and that sub-timeline is the timeline Maplewood originated from. So when Maplewood seed doubt in Elias Mannix, he created a new sub-sub-timeline that we have with Hasan and Maplewood in 2023 at the end of the series. So the original timeline would still have Elias Mannix in 2216. That Elias Mannix is still exist and he would have his own sub and subsubtimeline.
@@x340xthe time machine (throat) still probably exist they dont exist because they are factors related to the 2023 bomb. Iris is a non factor i believe
Nothing really "explained" here. A more accurate title would be "ending of Bodies narrated for the deaf and blind."
This one of the best shows i ever watched
if you liked this then you should watch Dark, it is much better and it has very similar story
To everyone in the comments:
Know you are loved.
How did Mannix even exist in the first place to initiate the loop?
It is not explanation- he just tell last episodes 😡👎
Ugggh these robot narrations are tough to listen to
It's a real shame that they put that final scene in as it makes no sense at all, the rest did make sense Well apart from that present day scene with lots of bodies in a dark room in tanks . What was all that about
Ixjust dont understand how maplewood is in 2023 and knows Shahara's name...if anyone can answer me that...thanks.
But....how did Alius come into being.do you think the very invention of the time machine caused a reality shift to allow Alius to exist. I know he went back from the future to the past to ensure everything would play out but he is an anomaly he wouldn't exist without the very idea of the throat time machine.
Ok i thought about the iris situation it might be simple. Just like how defoe came back 4 days lager in the FUTURE she did as well and just went back in to the throat to 2023 idk 🤷🏽♂️
how was she able to drive tho? everyone who goes back in time came out naked. She wouldn’t have been able to have her device brought with her either, which is probably why we didn’t see her walk in 1891. But how was she able to drive in 2023? It’s probably not iris or they just messed up 🤷🏾♀️
My question is how did mannix originate like how does he exist 😐 and why is there kyal on the end building brudda this is a total mindfuck
I noticed a couple plot holes maybe I'm wrong but how could young Mannex trigger a bomb made in the 40's with a cell phone? It also looked like there was a cell phone in the bomb before it exploded and the vault had seemingly not been opened since the bomb was planted. Also does the naked man appear every year on July 14th? Also if not then how did he come back so soon in the future where they were able to put that helmet on him and bring him back to life? Does that mean he's been perpetually dying in a loop for years and years? ALSO couldn't they just go back and kill Mannix, Mannix wife or the baby they had together and end the loop? Seems like that would have been the simplest way rather than sewing doubt in him and hoping he would make the right decision in the future.
It's a symmetric split. On 18th July 2053, he went back to 14th July 2053 (18-4) and 22nd July 2053 (18+4).
He also went back to 2023 (-30 years) and 1890 (-133 years).
Which means, the body must also appear at the same time in 2083 (+30 years) and 2186 (+133 years).
Good point about the mobile phone
The bomb wasn't made on 1890 I think or there's a possibility that mannix know the future and about tech so he made one in 1890 bcs remember he's from 2050 and for the last point killing them won't change anything changing the past doesn't change the future
Because he's in the past he can send future disciples instructions because guy on the desk never knew about the key and the safe doesn't mean that other people working on orders didn't know..they did
Regarding the phone in the bomb, the bank is part of the KYAL cult, they know the bomb is there and it’s been there presumably for a while, so they maintain it and upgrade it (but it’s never made clear when the bomb ends up in the vault or where it came from; in a universe with time travel it would be easier to steal a bomb from the future than to try to build one yourself, especially if you try to do it before the 1950s). The cell phone could have been added on later once cell phone tech was available. Even the land line phone in the vault was an upgrade, phones didn’t look like that when the bank was built.
Great show!
I think initial loop happens with Mannix born and living normal life, but being lonely (that's why older Mannix looks so normal, while younger Ellias is kinda mentally retard), So Real first Mannix lives his normal life till he somehow learns about existence of Throat and gets inside for the very first time and gets into 1890 for the first time. As a prove he no matter how many times he does it afterwards he is never prepared to be Sir Julian, he has no idea about Sir Julian being fat and having bald hair, otherwise he would have be prepared to look like him or know more about him, so this moment is the artifact of very first jump. And since he gets split into 2, second universe when he lands in 1800s, he can't be Sir Julian. Thats why Mannix says Maplewood, she is gonna do great things. So ending we saw belongs to the second split Mannix, with no explosion. Where Mannix probably finds Maplewood in prison and knows what to do to proceed with KYAL. So we watched both universes. Where bomb explodes and where it doesn't, but Manix goes to the past anyway.
idk if it’s a diss or a compliment that this sounds like AI but couldn’t make it thru 30 secs
How would he have ever existed in the first place if he was himself, his great great grandfather ?
The best time travel series ever
Why do so many of these videos claim to explain the endings when all they are is a summarized breakdown of the show. That doesn't "explain" anything.
I think everyone who went through the throat split into multiple timelines almost on some Jonas n Martha type deal, and only one version of Elias ceased to exist. Cause if Iris is still at the end and hadn’t age a day, then the throat still exists and the threat still looms. Cause where’s Defoe at?
Biggest plot hole is if the throat splits Defo's body into 4 timelines why others like Manix, Hasan, Iris didnt split . We do not see another middle aged Manix in 1941. Why not?
The biggest plot hole is Defoe helping Mannix to use the throat in 2053 only because he threatens to kill Hasan.
If he simply wouldn`t help him the whole story of Mannix would have ended right there.
she already wrote her name to the wall where hillinghead wrote his own name, and i think its not necessary to her to add her body in 1941, which whiteman the detective in 1941 timeline figure it out now and deliver the last message in his last breath until they shot him inside the bar.
even if she add the body in 1941, not I can say the "C" word but she is still crawling and cannot use her footlegs
and she cannot arrive to whiteman to tell what his next move. good thing elias himself make him do it instead of her.
I was on the side of mannix. Also, why didn’t mannix confront the man in the horse carriage who Identified him for who he really is. Not the ending I felt was realistic. Mannix was in the same mindset of thanos, he would not have changed his mind
Yeah I kinda feel you, Mannix was just looking for love and happiness and he just needed to feel real love and it might have ended the whole loop instead they chose to make him feel like he was damned to never feel love and happiness, so they used guilt and fear to end his loop when they could have possibly ended it in a positive way.
@@dandrechesterfield5411that part
@@dandrechesterfield5411 I think this is actually the most positive ending.
Your right about Mannix always looking for love and happiness; the issue arises by the fact that he never realized that he was creating this love artificially, causing him to ultimately always die unloved. This ending allowed him to finally end his own existence while freeing his soul of the guilt for what his future self would have done. Mannix quite literally shouldn't exist and any existence of him would ultimately cause that dystopian future. He was unloved but only because of himself.
(Also, How did he create this time loop in the first place as it requires Mannix himself to set up his whole messed up family line for him just to be born? How was he born?)
@patrykkasprzak7553 my thoughts exactly... how was he born in the first place 🤔
@@patrykk63 This is what I have been shouting at my laptop during every episode. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
This was a good show but has anyone here seen Dark???
And where is an explanation? You just retell the story
I dont understand how Elias was born originaly? Because his great great father was himself?