Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro - Tips and Things other Reviews dont tell you
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- This is my 2nd Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro, and this time most of the problems i had with my first Neptune 4 are gone. I show you what was wrong with my first one and whats good and still not so good with the 2nd one.
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Printer im using:
Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro - and you can find it here
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Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro, on that (affiliate) link you can get it for 279$ (OP is 330$) at the moment, but that may change over time
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3:58 - do NOT tighten these. they're supposed to be loose. the nuts are loctited in place. the bolts need to be semi-loose against the metal plate. back them out if needed. if you attempt to tighten these you'll fk up your Z axis - even stalling and jamming it.
This is correct. I have confirmed this with Elegoo support.
glad you wrote that and thanks for the info, i will undo them a bit
3:54 if you would follow instructions you have seen to bend cable and then insert this mount
3:56 DO NOT TIGHTEN Z AXIS SCREW NUTS!! It can introduce z wobble! it has belt on top for both lead screws so it doesn't leave space for z axis to move if its bent. Trust me I wrote support because of this and they told me to leave it as it is! It won't make print quality worse.
I had so much trouble with this printer that I can't realy recommend it. It won't be 'it just works'
Had the same conversation with the Elegoo support about my Neptune 4 Max, they told me NOT to tighten the z-screws
Thank you for the infos multidelta, i will undo the Z axis screws as you mentioned.
Its nice to get good advice like that from more experienced people 👍
@@dannyh2170 thanks for the ingo dannyh2170 i will undo the screws👍
"Tips and Things other Reviews dont tell you" - Translation: My printer was faulty, I got a new one
Thats a bit short, but true. Also; buy it from a dealer in your region, so you get a working one if the first one is faulty 🤔
Nice video, how loud is the big cooling fan on this printer? Did it get quieter with your 2nd printer?
Its loud when the fan is on max.
And it did not get quieter with the new one
for me the infill issue that you mention solved itself when I raised the nozzle temperature around 10 to 15°C ,I think it wasnt getting enough flow at 400mm/s because the filament didnt have enough time to properly melt at these speeds
Thats interesting... i also tried to raise the temp, but i did not get it much better. Glad you found a way to get rid of this problem and thank you for sharing it here 👍👍
Thanks so much for your help.
You are very welcome
Subscribed ❤
Wana see how you tank up this printer 😊
The video with the upgrades comes about next week 👍 cheers man
Thaks for hints.
After 5 years spent with my glorious Ender 3 (modified across the years) I want to move to something FASTER and print DIFFERENT MATERIALS.
Now I'm torn between NEPTUNE 4 PRO and ENDER 3 V3 KE.
Which one should I go for, and why? or which one NOT and why NOT?
Hey Mate, thanks for your comment.
I only have the Neptune 4 Pro and have only tested 2 Models of that printer. So im not very experienced and dont know that much what other printers are good for, or better than the Neptune 4.
For me its a great printer, but i dont have that much ecperience with 3D printing as you have with 5+ years of prining.
I just start now to experiment with other materials and cant tell you much about tha capabilitys of the N4 with other filaments.
Maybe i will make a video about that topic in the near future, but next video will be about all possible upgrade parts for the neptune 4... maybe after that i can check out things like TPU, PETG, ASA and others.
As for the speed of the printer, thats geat, i have set it to 250mm max, what does the job for me ;-)
What Filaments du you want to print?
I am also interested in a video about different typs of materials on that printer 👍
@@Dirt-E-Bikes Mainly ABS
I asked a friend who does some ABS printing, he suggested to use some sort of enclosure to print ABS because of the deforming. Maybe building one around the Neptune 4 or take a look at the Bamboolab printers that come with a enclosure and run klipper?
@@Dirt-E-Bikes Hello! This means, you ordered one, you had problems with and then they replaced it? If yes, can you make the models downloadable which showed you that something is wrong with the printer?
I bought Bambu lab P1S had trouble with Cutter stuck Aira. printhead nozzle? Your Neptune or pro review is great. The thing I like about the bamboo is they have the automatic color change please advise thank you for your help.
Thanks Mate, i think the bambu ps1 plays in an other league ;-) looks like a great printer, and the elegoo will not do automatic color changes at all. but bambu is also not as cheap as the N4/pro that comes for 270$. I guess if you are unlunky, you could spend more money on a even better printer and get that one model out of 99 good ones that make you trouble 😅
Were you able to get your problem fixed on the bambu?
Have a nice day ✌️
@@Dirt-E-Bikes No send it back & just order X1-carbon
I’m just gonna go for it you only live once.
I did like the A1 with the AMS
MAYBE IN THE FUTURE I’LL GET IT AGAIN. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A SICKNESS LOL.
Thank you for your help
@@richthemagicman you are very welcome, i also dream of the Bambu lab printers, but have not enough money in my pocket ;-)
Enjoi the ride on the carbon, it will be great i guess 😄👍
Loved your video! Can I plug an ethernet cable from my laptop ethernet port to the Elegoo ethernet port to make it work on the Internet?
Thanks Russ Shanks, im not sure if that works, but i guess if you try it that way, you could make that with a "crossed-cable" (?) like if you would connect two laptops by a lan-cable.
But im really not sure... I did it with the wifi-extender, that works flawless for me.
Keep on printing and have a nice day ✌️
Yes you can
plug a lan into the printer and into your router or wherever your internet network ports out for any wired devices and your laptop can connect via wifi as long as it is on the same network as the printer, you can find your IP address in the display on the printer and type that into a browser window and it brings up Fluidd, the klipper control interface to access the functions (this is per the neptune 4 pro, i dunno about any other printers but im sure it would be similar
This worked great to enter IP address into My phone web browser and started job remotely! Is there a way to store print jobs in Fluidd? Do I have to leave USB drive installed while the print job is printing?
@@russshanks5913 nice :-)
If you print over the fluidd interface, it should save your prints and you can later select it and print it again. If you are using the usb drive, you can only reprint it over the display when the previous print is done. It will not store it if you print something other in between.
Not sure if it is necessary to leave the usb drin in the printer while printing, i changed over to fluidd after a few prints with the usb, and never get back ;-)
Nice that it works by the lan/laptop on your side. Have a nice day ✌️
A lot of these problems seem like alignment issues. level the bed, level the bed, level the bed. if your nozzle is scrapping, your bed is most likely not level. Also your Z clearance should always be adjusted, more often so with larger prints. I have Neptune 4 plus and only been printing for 2 weeks and z axis clearance and bed leveling is key.
Also if your running at 500mm/s you are going to get more movement and shaking with your printer, which in return will slowly misalign your bed. that will cause scraping.
Thanks for the tips mate, guess you are right, it runs flawless now. But i guess it was also a twisted axis, as i had no problems with the 2nd elegoo printer i got. But leveling and z offset also does its part 👍
@@Skimer54 Hi Skimer, true, i now run mist prints at 250mm/s and get better print results. 👍
Does your printer print a perfect cylinder? Seen a few reviews say that it does not .
Hi Martin, the first printed did not, but the 2nd does
Ok great to know , might be now sorted..
i have one being delivered in a day or two i will lyk if its been fixwd only found out about this issue after buying lol @@Martin37vg
Mine has the exact same issue, I kept adjusting the z axis offset while printing and I could get it to stop. Noticed the bed was a little off after I moved it for the first time, still makes nice prints though
Thanks for sharing that info, and great that you find a way to handle that problem 👍
Update the firmware. There was an issue with the first firmware were it was not saving the Z axis after calibration.
@@RyCryst👍 i remember how often i was calibrating the z axis on my first N4p... but i guess that was not the only problem in my case
@@RyCryst they just sent my the update via email, just need to upload it 👍
@@hankkrendl8952 nice, hope it will solve that problem for you
I have the same machine, and am having the exact same problem with the nozzle rubbing and scraping my models. I've made a number of them successfully, but anything with fine detail is destroyed
Hi Africats, sorry to hear that. Do you have this problem since the first prints? Or was it occuring over time?
Mine was bent, only slightly, but i had to send it back. But others said that they can go along with it by adjusting the z offset during the print... Also some good and frequent leveling can help, but if it occures all the time, i would suggest to inform the seller and maybe getting a new one.
@@Dirt-E-Bikes yes, since the beginning. but now i cant even get a successful print
@@africats2 oh shit, oke, did you contact the seller? Mine was replaced free of charge, but i waited over 1 month for the replacement printer.
I clicked on this thinking it was the max version, but I will see if what I see in this video will help me with the MAX version.
Hi Levidarling, i hope it will help you. I dont own the N4 max, but i think most parts will work on that one as well. You may need some more links at the chains ;-)
Did you allready get the printer? Or waiting on delivery?
Oh sorry, i was on the wrong video... i did a Upgrade video with all free 3D printable parts to upgrade Your Neptune printer... it may interesst you as well 😅👍
@@Dirt-E-Bikes I’ll see to it. Take care and happy holidays (includes thanksgiving) to you!
@@levidarling5107 thanks, I wish you happy holidays too. Let me know how your Neptune 4 max performs :-) very interested in this printer too
no don't tighten the threaded rods, leave them loose.
Thanks for your input, you are right, i shouldnt tighten those, i have losen them a bit now 👍
I didn't get any "tips" in this video... just a bunch of problems you had with the printers without understanding or explaining why they happened... kind of a pointless video sorry. I hope you can format and structure your videos to better reflect the title and what you want to present in the future... good luck.
Thanks for your feedback, i will try to get it better in the next one. The problems i had with my first printer is most likely doe to bend parts.
Have a nice day
That's what you get with this printer. Problems without Elegoo help.
@@robothtml good one 😂
Yes, like i said, im glad that i get it true a dealer from my country, so they had to send me a working one. I think that can be considered a "tip"
@@Dirt-E-Bikesyes - that was an important message, thanks for that
Nice 👍👍👍
Thanks mate 👍
@@Dirt-E-Bikes You should do an video sometimes on how to get an used bike/what to look out for(dropouts and stuff) for an basic kit and talk about some setups for different usage, like if you need an road commuter within the legal range or a full suspension platform for offrad climbs ✌️
@@BigmacBacon good idea, i will look into that 👍
Wrong on the loose screws they are meant so your coupler can move cause sometimes the z rod aren't straight and flush by tightening them it will ruin your prints way worse
Thanks Slotty, true, you are right about that
I allready losen those again as you (and others) mentioned. Thanks for the input and have a nice day ✌
What firmware u got on this replacment n4?
I have to check that... i guess its a new one, because some bugs on the touchscreen are gone...
Its now Firmware version V1.1.2.03
And UI Version 1.2.4
The lead screw nuts shouldn't be tighten... That are suppose to be that loose
Thanks for your info Tiago, others wrote me similar things, so i will losen them a bit more.
Allways nice to get tips from more experienced people 👍
I have the Neptune 4 max is anyone getting layer shifts on the y axis
Hi Ricardo, on my first Neptune 4 (pro) the belt of the y axis was not straight, as you can see in the my first video about it. But i did aligne it before i was doing the first print, so i am not sure if this would cause layer shifts.
Also your slicer settings are probably wrong. Turn on "avoid supports" under traveling in the slicer, lol.
Nope, all the same settings on the new maschine and no problemos anymore ;-)
How to resolve infill scraping......
yes, in very short: if the printer does it from the beginning and there is no chance to fix it by any settings, its probabely bent... send it back to the vendor. for that, its easyer if you buy it from a local vendor.
(Maybe not running it at 500 mm/s for all your prints would make it more reliable 😉)
True, but i payd money for something that says it can do 500... so it have to do 500... all the time ;-)
@@Dirt-E-BikesYeah I’m sorry but you can’t expect good quality with 500mm/s. I’m not really saying it’s your fault, because it was marketed with that speed, but 500mm/s is just too much for this printer. Elegoo even recommends 250mm/s, and I use 200mm/s (for my perimeters). I don’t think you can blame most of these problems on the printer just because you set it to 500mm/s
@@zurabtsereteli9195sure, you are right. i was jokeing, i do 250 mm/s for most PLA, and TPU with 50mm/s max. But they should not advertise its speed that way if it cant deliver.
@@Dirt-E-Bikes You’re right. But if you want fast prints + good quality, do something like 80mm/s for perimeters and 200mm/s (or more) for the infill.
@@zurabtsereteli9195 ok, thanks for the info, very appreciate good tips from people who are more experienced 👍 i will try that on the next prints i do :-)
if this is really your voice, you really have a TTS / AI vibe to it.
😂 i know, people who call me on the phone often think im a robot... it helps when dealing with insurance agents
@@Dirt-E-Bikes specially if you add a monotonic cadence/pauses "YOUR.... TIME... IS VERY.... IMPORTANT TO US. Please wait patiently until one of our agents can attend you. The estimated time is.... FORTY.... FIVE-minutes. Thank you.
@@TrasherBiner 😂😂👍
That's literally your leveling being bad and not the machine. What does the bed mesh look like?
Hey isthattrue, i also tought so at the beginning, but the seller confirmed that something was bend and sent me a new one. No problema with the new one so far.
Mesh also was quite good with the old one, that was not the problem ✌️
Where are the tips you promised? Sad
Sorry to hear that Jochen. best tip i can get you if you looking towards buying that printer is to buy it from a vendor in your region that can and will replace it if it fails on you, like the first one i got (and i heard now of some more people in the comments on this channel, which is not a big channel anyway). So... thats what i had to say at this point. Tip 2 from this video: you can not start a print from wifi without checking on that filament blob that would ruin more than every second print you start... found a way to live with that, but only 2 month later...
Anyway, i promise next time will be better ✌
Don't go and drop the "Gentry" will you...
😅
Lamentável a elegoo neptune 4 pro estar vindo com problemas de alinhamento dos eixos X e y... Isso fazendo peças ovais ao invés de peças redondas... Diferença perceptível com paquimetro... Para peças mecânicas é uma péssima opção!
É verdade, mas devo dizer que estou muito satisfeito com o segundo N4P que recebi.
Que impressora está a utilizar?
Desejo-vos um feliz ano novo
Short version. If your printer isn't working the way you want it to, get it replaced.
Thanks for wasting 5:31 minutes of my time.
Im sorry for your lost and try to get it better next time
@@Dirt-E-Bikes What am I supposed to "get it better"? You're the one who made a useless video.
you bought that little thing for only 9 money? hihiii
Dont tighten the screws at 3:58. They need to be this way.
And your first layer is crap, go down 0,05mm more.
Also, not much information, wrong tips, just clickbait...
Sorry for that, this video isnt my best work... And you are right about these screws, i untighten them now. I promise next time will be better ✌️
...like a caveman... haha 😂
...klipper works so much better ober wifi ;-)
9 money? Wtf language is that?
Dollars / Euros, pic the one that you like. And i wish you a merry christmas
Haha 😂
9 money? 😂
😄✌️
10 seconds in and I know this is a horrible video. that xbox controller shell did NOT turn out well lmao
Learn to properly use a 3d printer dude.
What do you mean by that? Those are my first prints...
I'm sorry, but the AI voice is pretty distracting.
Yeah, im searching for a better one. The problem is that in my native siwss accent, you would not understand anything 😅
@@Dirt-E-Bikes Stephan from CNC Kitchens accent isn't so bad. It's kinda thick.
@@harrisappleton5866 thanks, but he is german, im swiss, thats a whole other league ;-) for a swiss guy, stephans accent sounds like cambridge english...
I am about to take classes for a better pronunciation and will try it in a future video. I know the ai voice is not perfect, but this way you can at least understan what i try to say