Fixing the Tyderium
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2023
- Isn't it weird that the shuttle Tyderium was virtually identical to a standard Lambda-class shuttle, despite being "disguised as a cargo ship"?
Well, let's explore some possibilities!
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As I always say, EC Henry really needs to be hired to do this legitimately EDIT: I mean, professionally, in charge of canonical details.
Him and FractalSponge
Disney doesn't deserve him but you're right
@@shutupgames6721 no, the Toxic "Fanbase" that hate and bully everyone and everything since 99 don't deserve them
@@commandplay nah
He was hired for Star Trek Online to design new ships.
I always assumed that something like the Lambda-class wouldn't be used for BULK cargo the same way as the Zeta-class shuttles in Rogue One or other larger freighter-type vessels. If you pull out all those seats in the passenger compartment you're left with an interior space that would put most U-Haul trucks to shame. For small shipments of specialized cargo, a Lambda-class shuttle works just fine as it is. When asked what the cargo of the Tyderium is, Han tells the Imperials, "Parts and technical crew."
Which would make perfect sense - a small cargo of technical components (for example some type of sophisticated computers) along with a specialized crew trained in their installation, maintenance, or use would easily fit in, and warrant, a craft like a Lambda whose use connotes some type of VIP transportation. With all the specialized machinery present in the shield generator complex on Endor, such shipments were probably pretty common. I do also wonder whether the external cargo module depicted here might interfere with the landing gear or make the ground clearance too narrow.
Very sensible explanations, for sure. The Tyderium as-is can definitely be justified with simple lore, but I still wanted to try the cargo pod.
It doesn’t interfere with the landing gear, but it does have very narrow ground clearance.
I checked it in original and indeed those are "parts and tech crew for a forest moon". In Polish translation they messed it up making them bunch of lumberjacks.
Plus a project lead technical crew with clearance to work on the shield protecting the Emperor's new superweapon are probably fairly high ranking.
I don't recall for sure how much is actually explained of the shuttle Tyderium's original function, but according to the book, "Moving Target: A Princess Leia Adventure," in which Leia's secret distraction mission of "Yellow Moon" is depicted, it is during this mission that the shuttle Tyderium is acquired. I do remember that Leia, along with Nien Nunb and a communications technical specialist escape imprisonment from an ISD utilizing the Tyderium. Perhaps there is information there that can help with this analysis/understanding of the shuttle.
edit: Just wanted to be clear that the shuttle was already on the ISD; the rebels' own ship was destroyed during their captivity, so they commandeered the Tyderium as the ISD was being attacked and destroyed by a faction of rebel ships externally.
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the render of the two shuttles on the platform is absolutely beautiful
I made an account just to like your work, amazing stuff. That Endor shot is definitely gonna be my phone wallpaper
@@Angelos_KWell done as usual, Angelos!
The Battlefront II video game has Zeta shuttles on a different installation on Endor and it's quite nice
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The cargo pod on the Lambda may not be big enough to justify commercial shipment, but it looks big enough to transport an executive and their family's belongings between planets. A space uhaul for emergency relocation.
i mean, if that Pod has 90m³ of space, that are 2 1/3 Container-Units and if you need something delivered fast, you don't wait for a bulk freighter to be ready
It would make perfect sense for high-priority shipments where speed is more important than cost.
As an added bonus, you could keep collapsible passenger seating in the interior and operate as a "Combi". Carrying both passengers and cargo. Stow the seating when you need the cargo area and bring it out when there's no cargo to haul, but passengers to carry.
I would argue the case for it being useful where Zeta class ships will both have trouble landing and have excessive space
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Also the plumber could use it
Seems perfect for a small shipment of parts and technical crew to the forest moon base servicing a "secret" battle station, to me.
0:24 fun fact, that same dark grey stripe down the middle of the cockpit denoting it as Palpatine's shuttle can also be seen on the armor of certain Clone Commandos in "The Bad Batch", specifically the ones in the Mount Tantiss base, implying they answer to the Emperor specifically.
They're probably a step down from the royal guards, but still having a similar authority.
Nice catch.
Oooh, nice catch! The Kamino Security Clones also had the white and grey color scheme (albeit just recolored shock troopers)… though I think they were just security and nothing special to the emperor after writing this out, lol!
I wonder if they served a unique role under Palpatine, such as spying on and eliminating political rivals in the early Empire
Huh, so EC Henry’s interpretation of the stripe in his TIE fighter video from a while back was seemingly right
It’s an interesting struggle between making the ships look like they’re actually meant to be used for something VS sticking with the established visual language the movie sets up (triangles and circles).
Henry actually did make a whole video on Star Wars design language. (you might already know this, but just in case you didn't, it's here: czcams.com/video/f80mfPYLqHg/video.html)
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@@G-Cole-01 Gonna check this out. My understanding is that the original film language uses shape and line motifs. Triangles with curved lines for good guys and circles with rigid lines for the bad guys. (At least for the original trilogy, they seem to have swapped line quality for the Disney era.)
Cool design. I just figured the Lambda was basically the imperial windowless van. Han says he's carrying parts and technical crew, forest moon. I figured they were posing as electricians.
Lambda is more like an armoured limousine, some have seats removed to accommodate a bar, others remove seats to add cargo. I think it was more like they were posing as foremen or contract staff with unique knowledge. You wouldn't send a lambda for every Joe blow Sparky out there.
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I mean, you _could_ send a Lambda for every Joe Blow Sparky out there, the Empire did have a shitton of those things laying around.
I think the original Tydirium is gray not because of an intentional paint job, but because it's less cared for and cleaned than the Emperor's or Vader's shuttle. The creators of star wars wanted an "old new" feeling to the universe, although it wouldn't apply to the shuttes of the two most powerful people in the Empire.
This guy's ascended beyond finding mini details in Star Wars. Now he's making his own!
Honestly, I love it when factions have ships and vehicles with overlapping mission profiles, because that is exactly the kind of thing that happens in real life. Being different contracts with different companies or differing military doctrines from competing generals.
The Tydirium’s cover wasn’t that it was carrying cargo, but that it was carrying a parts and technical crew.
It was carrying 'parts' and 'technical crew'. Usually 'parts' count as cargo 😉
@@MrLBPug vital replacement toaster parts.
Vader liked his toast in the morning 😅
Military aircraft designated with a "C" for cargo carry parts/people/supplies/etc. People are cargo, just like parts.
@@MrLBPug I thought he always over-toasted it, but apparently, he likes his toast on the dark side.
I'm not sure if it was intentional. But with the 360 view of the Lambda, from certain angles it has the dark gray of the Rogue one cargo shuttle with white tips. That looks cool as hell.
Secondly,
You can also have several standardized cargo sizes if you want to go with the clone wars era cargo shuttle. Maybe those Lambda Cargo variants are for higher up imperials transporting their valuables, and something like the standard cargo shuttle is beneath them, excusing the smallest size of the cargo container.
I still think there are a lot of unexplored possible options for the TIE Bomber platform. We have executive shuttles, boarding craft, many different weapons packages and pod multiples BUT... If a TIE Bomber didn't have passengers, assault troops, huge ordnance load-outs, that'd leave a whole half of the craft [or space where half the craft was] for whatever you fancy, as long as it fits size-wise. You could have refueling craft, short-haulers / cranes with a clamping system where the 2nd pod should be - that transported supply containers / sections of ships / space-stations under construction [for location drop off OR precision placement / assembly using thrusters] . You could have ultra-long range recon / survey craft with a hyperdrive and extra telemetry. Recovery / Repair craft with an airlock or remote operated manipulators / equipment for close-up engineering tasks. The TIE Bomber could be your best friend, basically. Like a faithful dog. :)
There is a TIE Scout that has a built-in hyperdrive and better sensors... But the Legends design for it looks like ass. I would've much rather it used a Bomber frame as the base for it.
I kind of want to see a bomber variant that slots a turbolaser or something into the ordnance pod, tie bizarro style
Tyderium wasn't disguised as a cargo ship. It is a cargo ship, and was used as a disguise.
Madine was saying that Han and his strike team would land on Endor disguised as a cargo ship. It's an older English sentence structure, but it checks out. :)
"Parts and technical crew for the forest moon." That's the original quote. Which makes sense to me even as an unmodified Lambda. To me, the most important part of it is the "technical crew" part. So to me that means they don't have to carry some big parts, but rather they carry expert engineers who carry small and important parts. It makes sense to me as it is. The Lambda is more for carrying people than carrying cargo. You also take workers to the construction site in a minibus, not a truck.
When asked, Han said he was delivering "parts and technical group", things that would not have necessarily needed a larger cargo ship. It could have been a special or rush delivery to repair a critical item on the moon with a few specialized technicians that did not require a larger or specialized pod-modified shuttle. The part could have been as large as a crate or small as a briefcase and "overnighted" from Coruscant. Routine logistics stuff, even in the Galactic Empire.
That being said, the idea of the cargo pod is brilliant. Makes the Lambda shuttle more routine and utilitarian as well as a high-ranking personnel transport.
'Parts' and 'technical crew'. Sheesh.
so basically the original team of return of the Jedi cleverly kept the plot hole filled with those words, even after most of being likely retired, including George himself, it's still remain filled to this day.
@@MrLBPug the terms "group" and "crew" are synonyms of each other, so he's actually not wrong on that.
Great video, as expected. Also, I imagine that the TIE Reaper, Lambda-class, Sentinel-class and Zeta-class are sort of the empire's equivalent of a UH-60, a CH-53, a C-130 and a C-17 respectively, each having a different enough role to have them all operating together
Henry, despite everything that's happened to Star Wars under the Disney umbrella, your creative mind has kept me a fan of the franchise far more than any other source.
It's the little things like this that continue breathing life into the galaxy. Also, I'm always impressed with your lore tidbits to justify their existence!
bro i am in the same boat this a a vary small handful of other channels are all that's keeping star wars alive for me :/
The colour scheme change for a cargo shuttle can also easilly echo the fact that already historically changing elements of an aircraft's colour scheme in the military could serve as an indicator of its function, the details indicating specifics of its current role.
The Death Star 2 project and Death Squadron had so many officers that it's hardly unbelievable that a VIP shuttle would be required, or at least available for high-end technicians. Someone heading up a significant sector of the geound based shield would likely be at least a Major. (Or equivalent naval rank of ground-to-orbit shielding is the Navy's domain)
I picture the cargo pod as being as tall as the cargo section of the Lambda class shuttle, itself. The shuttle would hover over it before descending, enveloping the entire pod with just the orange part you've shown sticking out of the bottom. In this case, the whole cargo space of the empty shuttle would just be a socket for the enlarged pod to fit into. Like, perhaps the cockpit is even cut off from the rest of the ship when a cargo pod is docked. I feel like that fits in with Imperial style secrecy and security, forcibly seperating flight crew from cargo. Just my two cents to help give you more than those 90 cubic meters lol
It's a fancy space semi!
I love that you were able to cut a niche into the cargo module! So functional!
The Lambda Class has always been my favorite ship from Star Wars. I love that it is at once sleek and industrial. It looks like an Imperial ship but one worthy of carrying high ranking officials rather than just run of the mill troops, but it could be used for that too. I think ILM knocked it out of the park with the Lambda. I would like to fly an X-Wing, but I would love to own a Lambda.
Keeping with the theme of the Republic/Imperial/First Order shuttles being named after letters of the Greek Alphabet, I have one that I created for just some fun, it's called: The Iota Class.
Designed just before the beginning of the Clone Wars, the primary role of the Iota Class was that of a large deep space research/spying vessel for the Republic. (Basically a Lambda-Class enlarged to the size of an Eta-Class supply barge, two top fins taken from the Rho-Class transport shuttle, and with the wings found on the Zeta-Class.) With a smattering of radar & sonar equipment, signal receivers/jammers, and a military grade scanner cloaking system. With the transition into the Empire, the Telgorn Corporation would decide to continue to use the Iota-Class, but for use against Rebel activity across the Outer Rim. While the role of the Iota-Class was replaced IGV-55 surveillance vessel, built by the Corellian Engineering Corporation, the idea of a specialized ship for spying & intelligence gathering would continue to be part of every military across the Galaxy.
I think thats already a class from the old republic
@@DarthKanye Well there's two Eta-Class (the smaller jedi shuttle & the supply barge). So I think having two Iota-Class vehicles is fine.
Besides, the other Iota-Class is just a dropship. Mine is a Republic version of the IGV-55 surveillance vessel.
We need EC Henry to see this comment & see what his opinion is.
We're getting Christmas early this year! Two great videos in a relatively short time frame.
Always love the art in these and how well these little bits and pieces get given such awesome development.
The visuals and renderings are so well executed! Well done, fun video.
Cheers
Lambda-Class and all of the Folding Wing Shuttles are some of my favorite Star Wars ships. You basically enhanced it. Made it so it can be used by more than just VIP's. This little pod you made puts it up there with Freighters of the YT style in my opinion. Good on you. Always like seeing your little touches and I wish Lucasfilm would use your ideas to spice up the universe.
I see a couple explanations why the Tyderium can look like the personnel shuttles used by various imperial leaders.
first, given the Zeta class and Sentinel class shuttles are cannon and operating at that time, it could be the Lambda class could operate as a light lifter shuttle on an as needed basis. say you only needed to move a small amount of cargo consisting of repair parts or light equipment, having a light, medium, and heavy lifter craft makes sense.
Second it is likely that all 3 classes were modular in design. While Lambda's were more likely to be kitted out for VIP transport compared to the others, having a craft that could be quickly shifted between missions to better fit different parameters makes sense. it could likely share some of the interchangeable equipment with the larger Sentinel class to assist in moving troops and supplies.
Third, at the time only the Lambda existed IRL so it would have to fill most cargo, troop, and vip roles.
fourth, they didnt want to make a new model specifically for this when they already had workable models for other imperial shuttles.
3:33 honestly, I ‘wowed’ at my screen.
That’s just gorgeous!
I alway love getting to see more imperial designs!
So, bit of 1970s behind the sceneries for you. The original reason the shuttle has that flat space that so perfectly fits a hangar bay, is so they could mount it for various shots! This actually even manifested on the toy versions released in toy stores, I wish I had some examples of the early lines.
We were almost one step removed from having a Shuttle chase, but it didn't fit the plot, so they really only need a bar to mount the model on, as well as being able to literally fly by wire, with the wings.
Endor would have had a smaller garrison than scarif so makes sense that a lambda would be enough to deliver supplies as oppose to the Zeta class. Love the redesign. Amazing work as always my guy
You und your Team are absolute awsome.
The lore ideas makes in every case sense and the visuals looking every time awsome. ^^
That does make a lot of sense! Love the way you work on the Visual Language for this universe!
The behind the scenes explanation for the shuttles looking similar is that they were only able to use two models for all shuttles in the film because of the complex internal structure necessary to animate the wings. They built and painted the models, got all the shots done for one, then repainted, rinse, repeat.
So the different paints were meant to mean something. Wonder why, if they all belong to the same company, the Imperial Fleet.
It was just the only way they could come up with to make them look different.
So well done. Very underrated channel
Glad you and Skyforge connected. Your lore and visuals are outstanding. Thank you
I love your skills man. Keep it up!
The Lambda class shuttle is my favorite ship! I really like that you gave it some lore improvement love.
Congratulations to EC Henry and all his named contributors to this short yet lore expanding video.
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The novel _Lost Stars_ explicitly mentions the grey stripe on the nose of the Emperor’s shuttle, which is a nice touch.
Love these Ship recreation/redesign videos!
I never noticed those different shades of grey! A module like this would have been ideal
Beautiful as always, amazing work
I love your ideas and execution! Very excellent work!
Never clicked so fast !
Great! I would love to see the original Trology with your additions and some more HD shoots of your ships 😃👍
It's simple: EC Herny posts a video, instant watch and enjoyement.
Crazy good work!
Allways got to click fast when EC Henry uploads
Always had a soft spot for the Lambda-class - that cargo pod addition looks like it belongs there!
I really like your design
my headcannon was just that all Lamda's can act as cargo ships in a pinch and the Tyderium's "disguise" was changing how it' "space IFF" signature appears, similar to the Ghost in Rebels although instead of pretending to be a completely different starship, they just changed it's mission type and relevant details
It is probalby a common misunderstanding that the disguise is visual.
They are using an imperial code of a cargo ship to disguise the ship's real identity, and the Lambda class can perform cargo ship duties too, transporting mainly personel.
Simple and logical explanation. Done.
I think this works perfectly for the in-movie explanation for their business on Endor: "What is your cargo and destination?" "Parts and technical crew. Forest moon." If it was a major construction operation there certainly would have been more and bigger ships, but if for example it were just a small team of specialized engineers there for a certain task, especially if it were maybe like private contractors brought in to consult or something, then using the Tiderium (a Lambda class just like Vader or Palpatine use) makes perfect sense, because it would be a more comfortable ride for a group of specialists plus their gear. And adding the little cargo pod on the bottom also makes it seem more like a general cargo ship but still a shuttle.
"Parts and technical crew for the forest moon." That's the original quote. Which makes sense to me even as an unmodified Lambda. To me, the most important part of it is the "technical crew" part. So to me that means they don't have to carry some big parts, but rather they carry expert engineers who carry small and important parts. It makes sense to me as it is. The Lambda is more for carrying people than carrying cargo. You also take workers to the construction site in a minibus, not a truck.
Anyway, again, great work from EC Henry and an idea to develop this further. I like that.
Love it. Simple yet elegance
ugh everything in this video is soo sooo pretty! (as usual!!)
Excellent interpretation 😁 looking forward to more 🥂
Many Bottoms died to bring us this information.
I’d always assumed that one of the reasons they were suspicious of the Tyderium in the film was that they were saying it was a cargo shuttle but wasn’t a class of shuttle usually used for carrying cargo. But the imperial urge to go “well the paperwork is in order so I guess…” worked in their favour
It's probably simpler than that. We know that the DS2 construction is behind schedule. On large projects like this, things are never equally behind schedule. Some things are on time or even early while other things are months behind. So when a shipment that is 4 months late finally shows up, it could have an older clearance code that will take some time for security to dig back and verify.
Officer 1: "This code is dated 4 months ago, is this legitimate?"
Officer 2: "Pull up the cargo manifest and check it against what was supposed to be here around that time."
*5-minutes of searching shipment requests.*
Officer 1: "Oh yea, here it is. Sure enough. They've been waiting planet side for these guys for 4 months. About time they showed up."
Officer 2: "Great. So the older code checks out. We're good to let them through the shield."
@@Crosshair84 true, and they also listed what they were carrying as “parts and technical crew” which makes it seem more like they were carrying small, but important replacement parts, and a few engineers. Probably not enough to justify a big cargo shuttle. Just a late courier shipment with some personnel who got stuck in limbo for a few months due to administrative delays
That makes perfect sense in-universe! In the classic X-Wing vs. TIE-Fighter Games, Lambda shuttles also docked in exactly this way to cargo containers.
A fun thing to look into would be the various depictions of the Sentinel across Legends and NewCanon. (And how the old very wide but not as deep massive Sentinel snuck into a cyborg holoprojection in Rebels despite Rebels using a much narrower and "taller/deeper" belly hold for their Sentinels.)
I love these videos, I get so excited to see you've released something new.
Nice, cool adjustment to make things cohesive.
This was fun; LOVE the nerd analyzation and imagination. In my mind, in a parallel Star Wars universe, this IS how the Lambda shuttle would appear.
I imagine Lambda shuttles had highly modular interiors that allowed for a variety of different transport roles ranging from personnel to high-profile cargo.
I do quite like your design though, fits very well into the lambda's design. Great job as usual:)
That's pretty awesome. Well done
More EC Henry. Makes my day every time.
I really dig this, but your ships are always great EC
I do like the idea that Lambdas could have an optional cargo pod, it's a good intermediary step between cramming personal items into baggage overheads on the small end and huge heavy lifters like the Zetas at the other end. It would also reduce the demand for more classes of dedicated "light" cargo ships by allowing an extant hull to do that work.
In Legends the Lambda-Class was a pretty decent weapons platform. in the old X-Wing Games they were quite annoying to take out especially in a mission in X-Wing Alliance where you had to disable the Shuttle Tyderium so the Rebels could capture it. It had 3 double blaster cannons (one rear mounted) and two double laser cannons so it could put up a fight along with it's duel shield generators. The military version had 10(!) blaster cannons on it. It was well armored too and could deflect a lot of laser fire. It was ideal for covert missions as it could travel without much of an escort if any. As far as cargo goes it could carry 80 metric tons and had 10 cargo holds/bays so I'm not sure if adding a cargo container to the bottom of it would serve much of a purpose. So using the shuttle tyderium as is by "transporting parts to the service" made sense as it could carry quite a bit.
It was also easily configurable and the favorite ship of many bounty hunters most famous of which was Jodo Kast who used a modified Lambda as his personal hunting ship, The Fox Catch. He had the wings cut short and mounted 4 X-Wing engines to it.
The X-wing games usually had the double guns in the back disabled for Lambdas, only the Escort Shuttles with the three wingtip mounted guns get the rear cannons. And those are turbolasers in the tail.
That's cool, I actually made a Lambda Shuttle pilot for a SW rpg that unfortunately never got off the ground. The cargo pod now exists in my headcanon for him.
I love the idea of the cargo pods being modular, and attaching to different types of shuttles. Large issue I have with this, though, is that the Tyderium is the perfect cover for a small commando team. A cargo shuttle would have to be hauling or receiving something that could be scanned. Han's story to the Executor is that it was parts and personnel for the forest moon, which easily explains why they used a simple shuttle. I get the feeling that if the Alliance used a cargo pod they'd probably be far more suspicious of it, especially given that Rogue One was a cargo shuttle, also moving a commando team
I know it´s too small to do some big shipments, but I´m pretty sure that Han Solo says that they´re "getting supplies for the ground team." or something like this. And even if not, the most probable thing you would get to the Death Star is either Kyber crystals, supplies, or officers. And this is big enough for either of it.
You are brilliant my friend, brilliant. I'm dead serious.
Fantastic rendering from all that assist
Man, this is amazing!
Excellent vision
great ideas. i cant wait to see your other ideas
This is head cannon now. Well done!
I don’t have a lot of patience for modern Star Wars shows that are now all about mythology, zombies and witchcraft.
My saving grace is knowing that Henry will always be here with a focus on realism and naval technology 👌
EC Henry = amazing fanlore
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Great vid EC Henry, I really like the idea of a cargo pod for the Lambda class. Now I have a reason to get a second Imperial shuttle from Jazwares' Micro Galaxy Squadron.
In military parlance, cargo planes are designated as C, e.g. C-47, which was used extensively as a troop transport and plane for deploying paratroopers. So I guess the Tyderium doesn't necessarily need any changes if the Lambda class is a cargo ship
I love the cargo pod compatibility idea.
I don't think it's necessary, you point out the decent internal volume yourself.
And the 'parts and technical crew' could well be smaller, specialist equipment.
They are baiting this very rebel attack after all, they'd want that shield working properly for the big day.
There are probably lots of shuttles carrying spare bits and bobs.
In fact, Palps probably insisted on it to make sure there was enough traffic for the rebels to feel like it was even possible to sneak through
I enjoy all of EC Henry videos
If the Lambda-class is like a present day cargo aircraft, the seats would be removable. Could explain why we didn't see a cargo pod in RotJ? Keep that Star Wars Lore coming, always like seeing your videos.
Some basic life support and seats installed in the cargo pod would also allow for more than a couple fire teams to land on Endor's forest moon, possibly a full platoon with additional equipment beyond just what everyone can carry on their backs.
It's like an inverted A-Class Xisor Systems Cargo Container. Totally meshes in-universe!
If this showed up in a new special edition i don't think id be mad. We still need public access to the unaltered film but your really good at this.
Thanks for another fun video.
When the Rebels said they were "parts and technical group" it made sense to me that it was made to look like a random shuttle tasked with transporting a specialist team to the moon. Not much of a reason to doubt they weren't exactly what they said they were.
'Parts' and 'technical crew'. Sheesh.
I absolutely love this design, and think that it, along with larger versions for the Sentinel Class, would be an apt inclusion into te star wars universe.
Large ventral extensions like those seen on Nu, Rho and Sentinel types would, presumably, take quite significant amounts of time and effort to install or remove. However Lambda and Sentinel type shuttles equipped with these smaller external cargo boxes may be able to unload significantly quicker by detaching or perhaps even airdroping modules.
It's super light freight. It's overnight shipping on very specific and time sensitive materials. That's your explanation for why such a small ship would be a cargo vessel. And especially when you consider the secretive nature of the Death Star II, maybe there's something for the shield emitter on the moon that needs to be moved in quickly and covertly. No big vessels needed, even these pilots could be on more restricted access than a standard cargo shuttle pilot. It's not totally unbelievable Lambda-class Shuttles could be used for such operations.
No one ever mentions how wonky the Tydirium is in the matte painting of the rebel hangar, the nose is slanted far too steeply down and the wing-bend close to the hinge is completely out of proportion.
On all of the other paintings it is beautifully rendered, and on the miniature the wing has a bend that starts right after the round part of turrets on the wings, very short and close to the rotating hinge, and in the comparatively low quality painting in the rebel hangar that section of the wing at least twice as long, as long as the guns rather than just the round turrets that they are mounted on.
This throws off the proportions of the wings quite a bit , putting that bend much further down the wing then it is anywhere else in any of the movies, and I noticed it immediately as a kid with my Art of Return of the Jedi, I loved the design of that ship, so elegant and I studied it so closely and to see the matte painting so poorly represented even though it is a prominent foreground feature I always found very strange!
Also the millennium falcon is also very poorly rendered for this same scene, after being absolutely photo realistically painted for scenes in The Empire strikes back, like on the landing platform at bespin, you literally cannot tell where the set ends and the painting begins, including reflections on glass and sunset light, but for this painting of it sitting in a landing Bay it looks extremely sloppy and unrealistic in comparison.
Even the original matte painting of the falcon in the death star's landing Bay looked far more realistic.
Back to return of the Jedi, the matte paintings of the death Star landing bats, shuttles and crew are astonishing works of Art , and I'm just curious why all of the ones in the rebel hanger looked so shoddy in comparison.
I suppose the simple answer is that the artist that did the rebel hangar Bay was just not as good an artist as the one that did the death Star shuttles and landing Bay but it really does jump out and even did back at the time, the death Star ones are very well done and you can't tell who is a real person or painted person and in the rebel hanger, the paintings just did not blend together nearly as well there was strange lighting and there just wasn't there realistic detail that there is in the rest of the movie.
They look fake at first glance and jump out compared to the amazing paintings and special effects in the rest of the original trilogy.
Very good observations. You have solid points.
I always spotted that when watching ROTJ - something always looked "off" with the Tydirium in Home One's hangar.
If nothing else it would be a convenience option when ferrying materials between ships in a fleet while on patrol. IE: getting stuff from your supply ship to everywhere else.
Bonus points in being able to use the mount points to fit other attachments either for cargo, or even mission pods.
See also Outer Rim Yacht Club's use of lamda shuttles as e-warfare and communication scouting ships to probe ahead for fleet deployments.
What a wonderful and PERFECT add to this amazing shuttle !
Btw, I've never noticed the different colors between the 3 shuttles.
I'm currently working on an LEGO Moc, a modified Sentinel-class shuttle made to carry a small Juggernaut tank. Sure that I'm now going to add more grey to it !
Awesomeness!
_Gah,_ I wish LEGO had released the Zeta-class shuttle from _Rogue One_ at minifig scale- I would have jumped on that one _instantly!_
I knoooooooow! I eye up the republic bricks one on a monthly basis.
Cool idea and visualization. I have an idea for a shuttle/light transport (ST Runabout hull, 4x Y-Wing engines, YT cockpit, dorsal Y-Wing ion cannons, 4x Y-Wing laser cannons forward), call it the Caracara.
Awesome story about it.