ZAPPITI? ZIDOO? APPLE TV 4K? | Which 4K DOLBY VISION PLAYER Should You Buy in 2024?

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  • čas přidán 19. 11. 2022
  • Black Friday 2022 is here and you’re looking for the best 4K UHD PLAYER on the market. Which ine us the best?? Zappiti? Zidoo? Apple TV? NVIDIA SHIELD? Oppo? Kaleidescape? Let’s discuss!
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  • @hatoraidcowboy
    @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem +2

    What’s your pick for the best 4K UHD player during Black Friday season?

    • @robo3412
      @robo3412 Před rokem

      HC, does it make since to focus on a media player with a good DAC if you can’t stream Spotify, TIDAL, etc.? Am I missing something? Is there a way to download music to playback on the zappiti, Ziddo or Dune HD media players? I stopped buying CDs a long time ago. I’ve been playing Spotify for the past several years. Should I stream this my AVR (AVM70) and/or Apple TV?

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      What’s more important to you….movie watching or music? This player doesnt your big name streaming apps, however it does have some support for Roon and Spotify, but I havent tested that functionality.
      If you want all the streaming apps this device might not be for you.

    • @moviesandgamestrailler4825
      @moviesandgamestrailler4825 Před 9 měsíci

      Nividia shield could run mkv files with 4k and 10bit and 4:4:4chroma with Dolby vision at 30fps movies?????

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 9 měsíci

      @moviesandgamestrailler4825 The 2017 Nvidia Shield cant do Dolby Vision. Which is the one I have

    • @paulmardis1512
      @paulmardis1512 Před 7 měsíci

      @@robo3412 The Zidoo UHD3000 or UHD5000 will give you the best of both worlds. You can download music files as well as play movie files as well. Each of these players have high-end Dacs for music playback. But these are both flagship players and are not cheap.
      Good Luck.

  • @celebnorz3noldoli
    @celebnorz3noldoli Před rokem

    Thank you man, you've made a really good comparison. Always nice to see a man of class who admires a good picture and sound quality. Cheers!

  • @kmdkmd-jz8pv
    @kmdkmd-jz8pv Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! I’m just getting into NAS storage and ripping my content. I was using shield with Plex for a couple years for my uhd remux files. I was getting sick of frame drops. I now have the magnetar upd-800 and love how it can play iso files perfectly and the audio and video is great. I have my shield setup as a NAS so I can still use Plex if I want and can play the same files on my magnetar. Would you recommend a Zidoo over my current setup? Do you still prefer using your oppo? I like nice menus but smooth playback and the best AV is the most important to me. Any info would be great!!!

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 4 měsíci

      I would still recommend the Zidoo. Zidoo can do so much more than any blu ray player can. You’ll have a much better user experience with the Zidoo

  • @salahuddinmalik3787
    @salahuddinmalik3787 Před rokem +2

    I am using my Zidoo 1000 pro & its mind blowing in audio as well as in video content. For streaming I am using Fire stick Max.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Nice! I think Zidoo is superior to what’s out there right now for Media Players. Its amazing.

  • @paulmardis1512
    @paulmardis1512 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Unfortunately, I may be jumping back on Zidoo bandwagon since I just found out that Zappiti is going out of business at EOY. so I am debating between Z2000 Pro or Z2600. I don't know what the real difference between the two. I would also need to find out if they are rack mountable.
    Thanks
    PM

  • @paulmardis1512
    @paulmardis1512 Před rokem +3

    Adding 2-cents on differences between Zappiti and Zidoo. I originally had a Ziddoo Z10-Pro but returned after purchasing a Zappiti NEO. The Zappiti does have a slow UI because it is cloud based as the Zidoo is local. Also the poster wall in Zidoo is not up to par compared with Zappiti's picture wall, Which rivals Kaleidescape picture wall. Another difference is movie organization is much easier in Zappiti than Zidoo. I also thought the PQ on Zappiti is better than on Zidoo.
    Kaleidescape is a different animal altogether.
    Good Luck.
    PM

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem +1

      Yea its basically comes down to everyone’s preferences. The Zappiti is a great machine. I enjoy the UI much better on the Zidoo for me personally.

  • @john_woto
    @john_woto Před rokem +3

    Awesome video - it’s great to see you testing the Zidoo - I’ve had quite a few media players over the years - I got my first Zidoo X9S back in 2018 then the Z9S and now the Z9X - I also use in my cinema room the Z1000pro which I love - The poster wall (HT4) has come a long way but in my opinion still room for improvement like the ability to pick up where you left off watching something on another player similar to what Plex can do

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      That Z1000 pro is nice 👌🏻 That will prob be my next player if I ever buy another. I want chapter thumbnails and the ability to create your own “favorite scenes” like the Kaleidescape can do. But loving my Z9X!

    • @john_woto
      @john_woto Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy I do like chapter thumbnails but it's not often I skip chapters - The Z1000pro has a nicer landing page (ZIUI_Cancer) in my opinion - that Ui can be installed on the Z9X which then makes it feel a bit more premium

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Chapter thumbnails are a MUST for content creators and reviewers LOL How you get the UI?

    • @john_woto
      @john_woto Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy Strange I have just wrote this wondering if my link has been removed on how to install it - I can send you the .apk which is an easy install

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Sure. Just shoot me an email. Thanks!

  • @ProfessorOtakuOfficial
    @ProfessorOtakuOfficial Před rokem +1

    Hi, I'm undecided between Zappiti, Zidoo, Reavon and OPPO UDP-203. The main use is the reproduction of 4K movies in MKV or ISO, always in native resolution without compression. Audio-video quality is very important to me. Which one do you recommend for this? I play with a Sony 4K XW-5000 laser projector and Denon 4800H.
    Thanks in advance for the answer.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem +1

      Hello! I dont have any experience with Reavon, I’ve reached out to them and they wont send a demo unit. Bit Reavon is primarily a disc player.
      I dk have experience with Zappiti and Zidoo. They are both great media players that will play ANYTHING….BUT Zappiti you have to go through a dealer and they are more expensive not to mention the UI is very outdated. I prefer Zidoo. You can buy on Amazon, they are cheaper, better UI and has a TON of functionality and customization.

  • @julioarroyo6137
    @julioarroyo6137 Před 7 měsíci +3

    AppleTV 4K with the Infuse App Pro from Firecore will do Atmos decoding on the unit and send it out as a mutltichannel LPCM 24Bit 48Khz is my understanding... Any receiver should be able to handle this without issue. I wish they would also do bitstream, but at least you are no longer in an island...🙂

    • @cwescrab
      @cwescrab Před 7 měsíci

      So do the upfiring speakers work with atmos mkv with infuse pro on apple 4k tv then?

    • @oliivioljy9700
      @oliivioljy9700 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes, it annoys me too that Apple resamples everything to 48khz level FORCED, even if the sound quality is even better or more awesome and enjoyable to hear at 96/192/384khz levels from different sources, that crazy way of Apple is already quite a mental illness already in 2024. This way has been introduced more in the knee and apparently still involved in the apple tv destroying the sound quality.
      I don't buy apple tv anymore, but I switch to competitors' products, because the arrogance is too great in the nature of audio playback practiced by Apple to forcefully reduce the sound quality.

  • @geraldlaplante1972
    @geraldlaplante1972 Před rokem

    I was a little surprised that the Panasonic UB820 or UB9000 4K players weren’t mentioned.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem +2

      Yea unfortunately I havent experienced those players. But people seem to keep mentioning them so they must be pretty good. I need to see if I can get a review unit.

  • @lucianotorres5713
    @lucianotorres5713 Před rokem

    Thanks for you content, I have a question can I reproduce BDMV folders with the zidoo z9x??

  • @richmoore5080
    @richmoore5080 Před rokem

    Does the Zidoo use a wall wart/power brick? If it does it is written on it. They almost always do both 120 & 240 volts.

  • @richmoore5080
    @richmoore5080 Před rokem +3

    I'm happy with my Panasonic dp-ub9000p1k dual volatage/regionfree player so far. It certainly is well built.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem +1

      The UB9000 is supposed to be a stellar player and a worthy successor to Oppo players.

    • @ProfessorOtakuOfficial
      @ProfessorOtakuOfficial Před rokem

      Hello, a question, but does the Panasonic read 4k MKV files?

    • @dastiffmeisterman
      @dastiffmeisterman Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ProfessorOtakuOfficial No Panasonic players don't stream all media types speaking from experience.

  • @boedilllard5952
    @boedilllard5952 Před rokem

    I'd love a HT piece of equipment that looks it belongs in a HT - not a happy meal prize -like the shield. I need it for just two things - Plex and Pluto - should be able to handle atmos, native hdmi 2.1 - full specs, DTX:X and voice e.g. play ironman from plex.

  • @08jaraiza
    @08jaraiza Před rokem

    Would you use the shield for streaming and zidoo for downloaded content?

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Sure! I use my Apple TV 4K for my main streaming device but you could use the Shield for streaming too. I just like the Apple TV better. Just depends on your preference. I used the Shield for a few years before I got the Apple TV

  • @dastiffmeisterman
    @dastiffmeisterman Před 2 měsíci

    I think the Dune HD pro one 8k plus is the best player on the market because it has the S928X media processor. I've got their 4k player as well which uses the Realtek RTD1619BPD media processor the same as the Zidoo and as a direct comparison the S928X has a lot more detail. Both processors are rock solid with 4K playback but the S928X is superior. I would recommend you do a comparison yourself. Combing the Dune HD pro one 8k plus with a capable NAS like a QNAP or Synology is the ultimate home cinema solution in my opinion.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I’ve reached out to Dune for a review unit but they havent responded. Thanks for your input.

  • @andrebradley1924
    @andrebradley1924 Před rokem +1

    Can you do a video on dune media player

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      If they’ll send me a review unit. I’ve reached out to them before but never got a response.

  • @adrianmischiu3523
    @adrianmischiu3523 Před měsícem

    I have an LG C2 an I use Zidoo Z9X PRO for play Dovi.
    I noticed that Dovi from netflix and Disney installedon tv is brighter than Dovi from HDMI 2.1 Zidoo.
    Can you do a test? Or Can you explain me why?
    Thanks

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před měsícem

      Unfortunately I dont have those answers or the ability to replicate that test

  • @rajabhattacharya4127
    @rajabhattacharya4127 Před rokem +1

    Which Will be the cheapest Zappiti or Zidoo product which can play 4k H.265 files with DTS-X and Dolby Atmos ? Need HDMI eARC. Storage not needed. How much more if I want 8K playback ?

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Neither Zappiti or Zidoo support HDMI 2.1. Zidoo products are going to be much cheaper than Zappiti. But Everything else you want…H.265 with DTS:X and Dolby Atmos will play just fine on either Zidoo or Zappiti

  • @tyhome1
    @tyhome1 Před 11 měsíci

    What features do you get more from Zidoo than Zappiti? I saw your original Zappiti video, and you did not use all of the features. Good video!

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you! I only had the Zappiti for a short time so I didnt get to delve into ALL of the features, but I covered the more common ones.
      Honestly they are both pretty much the same. You might get a little more processing more on the Zappiti, but the feature set is pretty much the same.

  • @reactorre
    @reactorre Před 9 měsíci

    Yeah but let me say, Infuse can do the decoding of lossless audio truehd and DTS, in the same way the avr does. No Atmos metadata nor dts X unfortunately.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 9 měsíci

      Yea I looked into Infuse years ago but the no atmos or dts:x was a hard pass for me

  • @richmoore5080
    @richmoore5080 Před rokem

    As you know, I have the Zappiti. Is there any reason I should have the Zidoo as well?

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      I’m really liking the Zidoo. Zappiti is great too, but honestly I’m loving the Zidoo more and more each day. There’s more options and customization and the UI is better. And they’re cheaper too. I’m not at all against buying a Zappiti, but I just like the Zidoo better.

    • @richmoore5080
      @richmoore5080 Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy But can the Zappiti be used to stream content off the internet? I've always thought of it as a player of content I own in MKV....?

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      It works the same as Zappiti. I think Zappiti has a netflix app but I heard it isnt very good. I havent seen any streaming app support for Zidoo. But I would never use either or those for streaming since they’re designed for local content.

    • @richmoore5080
      @richmoore5080 Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy So the NVidia is your choice for a streamer?

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      @@richmoore5080 The Shield is my choice for PLEX, Apple TV is my choice for streaming. But if Apple ever enables support for bitstream, its game over goodbye Nvidia Shield. At least for PLEX. Still love the Shield. But as it stands today, SHIELD is the superior device for PLEX and is a good streamer as well.

  • @richmoore5080
    @richmoore5080 Před rokem

    WIll the Zidoo work on 230volt 50hz?

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Hmm I’m not sure, that’s beyond my testing knowledge or capabilities LOL

    • @paulmardis1512
      @paulmardis1512 Před 9 měsíci

      @@hatoraidcowboy I believe the z2600 and udp5000 would work on 240 volts per the specs on those units.

  • @salehkambijo1849
    @salehkambijo1849 Před rokem

    Does it do HDR tone mapping??

  • @percybedford6266
    @percybedford6266 Před rokem +1

    What about the Panasonic blu ray player? That one should be on the list.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Unfortunately I dont have that one and have never experienced it so I just gave my thoughts on the players I’ve had experience with. But thanks for chiming in! I’m sure there are other players including panasonic that will make people’s lists.

    • @percybedford6266
      @percybedford6266 Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy got it. Yeah the Panasonic can dynamic tone map. I am thinking of getting one.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      I’ve heard about that. That’s really great. I wonder how great it works compared to JVC’s dynamic tone mapping.

    • @wendellwendellb339
      @wendellwendellb339 Před rokem +1

      I see someone mentioned the Panasonic 4k UHD players, I have the UB420, and 820 in my home theater!

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      @@wendellwendellb339 How is the dynamic tone mapping?

  • @salehkambijo1849
    @salehkambijo1849 Před rokem

    Does zepppiti do HDR tone mapping??

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem +1

      I don’t believe it does. Not like the Panasonic UB9000. It does support Dolby Vision though.

    • @salehkambijo1849
      @salehkambijo1849 Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy for 4k hdr am using stored USB files and played by Roku through usb port in roku.
      Will i have better hdr if i did that with zeppiti??

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem +1

      @@salehkambijo1849 I noticed improvements in audio and video coming from my Nvidia Shield to the Zappiti and Zidoo. So I would say yes as those devices are vastly superior to Roku. It depends on your setup though

    • @salehkambijo1849
      @salehkambijo1849 Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy with your Epson 5040 do u feel needs to tone mapping to the hdr contents?

  • @aaronfirat2659
    @aaronfirat2659 Před 8 měsíci

    What about dune hd?

  • @Kwarkiemodo
    @Kwarkiemodo Před 9 měsíci

    Can it play DTS X? Ai upscaling?

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 9 měsíci

      Which player you asking about?

    • @Kwarkiemodo
      @Kwarkiemodo Před 9 měsíci

      @hatoraidcowboy not the Shield because it can do it all. I wonder about those others. I am searching for a new streaming device because the Shield is from 2019...
      Samsung rolled out a firmware and since then my download speeds are way slower.
      I have 4k movies that will buffer all the time now. Did work perfect before....
      Hope you can help me out. Thanks!
      Or Ill just have to wait for a new Shield in 2024..

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 9 měsíci

      @@Kwarkiemodo The Shield is the only device that has AI Upscaling.

    • @Kwarkiemodo
      @Kwarkiemodo Před 9 měsíci

      @@hatoraidcowboy is that important with Plex? I read that it will do transcoding a lot.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 9 měsíci

      Na its not important. Transcoding is different from upscaling.

  • @MrGainfast
    @MrGainfast Před rokem

    Zidoo+HdFury+Sony projector. Enjoy )

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Great combo! Which Zidoo player do you have and which Sony projector?

    • @MrGainfast
      @MrGainfast Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy zidoo z9x, sony vpl 285

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem +1

      @@MrGainfast 👏🏻 Must be a beautiful experience with that trio 😁

  • @jamesgarrison7397
    @jamesgarrison7397 Před 8 měsíci

    Roku Ultra 4K should at least be on the list

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I have to disagree. The Roku has access to hundreds if not thousands of apps, but its not in the same league as the rest of these players. And if I’m being honest, the Apple TV really shouldnt be on this list with the others cause it cant do bitstream for local content

    • @jamesgarrison7397
      @jamesgarrison7397 Před 8 měsíci

      Even the Roku Ultra 4K? I understand the less expensive Roku's aren't in the same league, but the Ultra is much more powerful.@@hatoraidcowboy

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @jamesgarrison7397 Yea….That’s just my opinion though.

  • @paulmardis1512
    @paulmardis1512 Před rokem

    Here is another Kaleidescape gotcha. If a movie is removed by the producer it is also removed from your local library even though you purchased it. Another red flag.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Yea that’s why I buy physical discs and rip to my own server.

    • @paulmardis1512
      @paulmardis1512 Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy i'm like you, I have a plex server on a dedicated PC and several attached NAS devices along with Zappiti NEO and OPPO 203 Player. I had a Zidoo Z10-Pro but found it too difficult to organize movies and also the sound from the hard drive in the box was so noisy it interrupted the movie experience. So I ordered the Zappiti and when it came I put the same HDD in the zappiti that was in the Zidoo and no noise at all. I compared the two units and liked the Zappiti more. The zappiti came out with a lot of new features ie, movie sound track plays when you hover over a movie, animated movie posters and better picture wall. Not to mention better PQ then what I saw on the Zidoo unit I had. So I then returned the Zidoo. When I had Power Supply issues they replaced unit with a new unit and also gave me rack ears for free as this unit does not come with them. These items were sent to me from the President of Zappiti USA.
      Thanks
      PM

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Really…The movie organization works fine for me. Occasionally I have to fix a few movie thumbnails but its usually spot on. I’ll agree with you the hard drive noise is extremely loud, but its also not in a case so that might help. I found the Zappiti to be just as loud even with the internal drive bay. I love my Zidoo. Its been my favorite new device in my theater system

    • @paulmardis1512
      @paulmardis1512 Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy I am glad that you are enjoying your Zidoo. When I found out about it I stumbled on it from a post on Amazon and that is where I purchased it back in 2021. They came out with the newer products last year. I told my son about them and he may be purchasing one of them soon.
      Good Luck and Enjoy.
      Thanks for your view review it ws very informative.
      PM

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Thank you for watching!

  • @crisco9071
    @crisco9071 Před rokem

    Kaleidescape doesn't do Dolby Vision.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      Nope. 😩 That’s really my only gripe with it. With how much it costs for one that’s 100% unacceptable and I’d like to find an answer as to why it doesnt support DV.

    • @fan2hd277
      @fan2hd277 Před rokem

      @@hatoraidcowboy its easy they do not want to pay crazy royalties to Dolby.

    • @hatoraidcowboy
      @hatoraidcowboy  Před rokem

      You’re probably right. Still, at the price that Kaleidascape is paying, to ME that’s unacceptable.