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He went on today and explained what he’s dealing with and apologized for his words and actions from yesterday. People in his chat were really pushing him to get mad too. He had a good stream but this escalated at the end from people who aren’t even normally in his community.
what is he dealing with?
People should go check out his vod from today where at the beginning he explains and apologized for his actions, to get better context.
Man I'm just here for the armchair psychologists in the comment section that can make an assessment about several mental health issues just from reading a video title lol. Good to know though.
Nuh uh. I love Pyro - he's one of my favorite streamers - but this kind of thing, losing his temper and being incredibly rude to his chat, is NOT a one-off thing. He's done it repeatedly. It's not just having an off day and getting baited by trolls, and it's disingenuous to claim this is all that's happening here.
He gets triggered and lashes out when people disagree with him. He does it all the time.
@@kingjoe3rd maybe he has clown syndrome.
Asmon being a hype man in the first few mins has me rolling.
Right lol. He so excited
I was dying laughing 😂
TRUE! BAN HIM! BAN HIM NOW!!
mans was eren with the attack titan LOL
TWU
This boss's enrage timer shortened considerably
Lol I was saying that to myself as I was listening, lol
Phase two, phase two! 🤣
Another tank tried pulling agro but caused a wipe smh.
Exactly what i thought
i just got CZcams pop up about if this comment is upseting me
@@contentguy9093 lol, that's awesome
Pyro's chat: *tries to defend someone that Pyro wants to ban*
Asmon's chat: *actively spams "BAN HIM" whenever someone tries to get Asmon to mald*
That's because Pyro is a shit teacher. He can't cultivate anything. This is why he's constantly getting mad. He's in the complete wrong career.
It's all about how you handle it.. Asmon handles things the right way so the fans are on his side
I’ve seen “mod him” just as much however for the same exact reason. Asmons audience kind of knows to expect asmon going wild. Pyro doing it is always for the wrong reasons. It’s never funny, it’s always cringe, and it’s just mean.
the cult is strong
@@Choco-sk2gj i dont see how hewd would handle it differently 🤔. His pretty on par
5:43 I love how Asmon's definition of productivity is waking up, turning his computer on, and going to the gas station 😂
Is he that rich?
@@kwando472 man is LOADED with moonaayyy
@@kwando472 Worth between 2 and 3 milly; so he isn't as loaded as someone like ninja or train but sure ain't doing bad for himself lol I'd probably still live the same way
@@Eta_Hoyimi I was making the comment back then due to high gas prices 😅
@@Eta_Hoyimi i mean when you live in your moms basement having 2-3 million is insane!
This man lives up to the pyromancer name by being this heated.
dude that makes so sense. he picked his name for a reason.
more like he's a flamer. lmfao
@@UltimaKeyMaster true....probably a lolli....smdh
@@DARKLIUM Lolli? Will you elaborate please? I hope you’re aren’t insinuating what I’m thinking…
@@Mans_Not_Hot lolifel (Lalafel) or however you spell it. When i played ffiv i played all classes but i was elven or something, alot of people who try hard black mage go lalafel, because the stats of the race....and do i look like someone who cares what other people think?
This Pyro dude had a meltdown over WoW not too long ago, 1. Why the fuck are you focusing on 1 troll out of 16k viewers 2. Why are you telling your viewers (many of them paying) to go get a life 3. Why in the fuck don’t you just close down the stream before embarrassing yourself AGAIN.
Ironic he told the trolls to touch grass when thats exactly what he should’ve done. Turn off the fucking stream, go take a walk.
And Asmon is right: never show weakness with trolls because they feed off it.
Reminder that he somehow has a fiance.
because hes just toxic himself lol the internet would be better off without him. lol
Pyromancer sounds like the type of guy that would put his car in park freak out every time the McFlurry machine is out of order
To be fair, they gotta get those McFlurry machines right
@@douglasmurdoch7247 McFlurry machine still broken tbh
@@TomT-ru8wz honestly it’s not broken and never was. The employees are just lazy asses who gave up on mixing them, and enough of the public just didn’t care, and it stuck
"Don't feed the trolls," but Pyro's like an old man just tossing bread bits to all the ducks at the park lmao
"You need to go outside and interact with real people"
Bro your having a meltdown over a platform preference
He has meltdowns over anything he doesn't agree with
Dudes the crying wojak meme personified
@@valerista4269 thats...really depressing actually ngl
Like dude why does my choice in xbox effect your PC? Lol
He had a meltdown over bread preference. Bread.
@@nyos22 Are you serious? Do you have a link?
Pyromancer gets derailed by so much as a pebble on his track. I like him when he is playing and interacting with the content, he cares and is engaged. It is a positive experience when he is positive. But the moment one random nobody says something easily ignorable he will just focus in on it and not let it go for far too long. I literally mute and tab for 20-30 minutes when that happens.
He also seems to think chat is a person. He asks a question but does not understand that chat has a delay and is full of thousands of people with different latencies, so he will tell them to stop answering. I almost want to bring these kinds of gripes up as constructive criticism but don't out of a genuine concern it would just get me banned.
I think he said he used to work at BestBuy before getting into streaming and when I think about that I imagine he would be the most miserable boss to work under if you fuck up or rub him the wrong way even the slightest.
Thanks for the tips. He may not use it but others will >_O
Let's be honest, if you're watching or listening to someone else play a video game, you're a moron.
I know this is an awful place to say this opinion but there it is.
What massive waste of your time. "You shouldn't tell other people how to spend their time." Whatever. You're completely bleeding your life out watching other people steam instead of filling that time with art worth spending time on. Or literally anything else.
So he's a prick
i mean theres more to that though, the sets the mood and pace in his chat by blowing up over the stupidest shit. People spamming the :( emoji during second trial? starts telling them off. with this attitude your always going to attract a negative chat experience.
One of the tags in his Twitch stream is 'ADHD' which makes me think it's not really something he can help. It's like his instinct to win an argument and be combative is inherently incompatible with streaming in front of thousands of people at a time.
I also found myself too uncomfortable to continue watching his streams during the Endwalker MSQ, and had to wait for VODs so I could skip over what became 40-50min arguments with chat over things I perceive as petty but obviously he doesn't.
At the end of the day, it's his stream and his rules and you have to respect that. I just hope he is conscious of how he comes off as and how that may affect viewers in the long term. This is his job now.
The problem with Pyromancer, is that while it was entertaining at first you slowly find out he has genuine anger issues. I can't speak to what's going on in his life and I won't pretend HURR DURR STREM MONEY makes a sad person happy. It's just that this has happened, and happened, and happened and will happen. Pyromancer is also frequently enough at fault for just being a dickhead to people because he got angry at himself. He did the 2nd Trial in Endwalker with fans instead of with NPCs. Folks used the sad emoji because they thought the haha funny lore man would want to see the characters from the story interact. I believe he was short with them and tossed out an insult. What happened after though, was that he got super pissed at wiping on the trial and would constantly berate and insult the people in the group with him. Even a Healer that hit Rescue to pull him out of a mechanic he was standing in got the baby rage.
The worst part about all this, is people constantly mention how they used to follow him and his content but left. I left too. It happens too often and his anger is too severe. When that happens, you can bet all he'll have watching are annoying people that love to see him get angry who will fuck with him until he does. Toxicity will breed itself in any community and if you want to have a meltdown frequently and laugh at or insult people off hand, expect your audience to love it and reciprocate. Dude had a gamer moment posing a question about people on console whether they prog Savage or not in an intentionally belittling way, over fucking hardware of all things. The guy is a man-child sometimes.
Pyro needs therapy.
That 2nd trial is when I stopped watching his stream, at that point it was bound to happen that he was gonna blow up and yeah, as we can see that's exactly what happened, it's a damn shame because I think he genuinely likes the game but his anger issues were off-putting
How mad was he when told world first solo heal of t9 was done by scholar on a controller?
The fact a grown man yells at people typing to him in a chat is pathetic. Asmon goes off on people, but he doesn't raise his voice. When you start raising your voice in a stream (of all places), people are going to get put off by you and not respect you. Asmon generally just makes the perpetrator look like a fool. Also, this Pyro dude is married? Woof. I hope he doesn't drink - that might get bloody, literally.
stop getting emotionally invested in someone you don't know
I realized real quick this dude has anger management issues.
Pyro has some of the biggest rage issues I've ever seen. It was obvious from his first few videos on YT. The guy needs help, literally.
you don't really know he needs help. We see a small sliver of any given streamer's life and we don't actually know them.
@@tragikk03 exactly & that little bit we see isn’t normal on a day to day basis. He needs help.
@@tragikk03 what you're saying doesn't really apply here lmao
@@OBELISK3210 well put
The difference between preach and pyro is so fucking insane lol. Its like night and day toxic vs wholesome
isn't preach just a normal guy that likes games while pyro video games are his personally
@@Chippaization Absolutely. Pyro is one of those people who considers video games to be more important media forms that writing and film.
@Jay Bee Hard not to compare your current gf with your ex.
@Jay Bee this is way too specific to not be projecting lmao
@Jay Bee ????
I liked watching Pyro, but stopped after he told everyone he was purposefully dropping ads during key moments to encourage people to sub. I had been subbed his whole journey through the MSQ, but his want to purposefully make the experience worse for free viewers really irked me. I get random ads hitting at inopportune times, or throwing a number of ads during a break, but purposefully hitting them at specific moments to manipulate your audience doesn't sit right with me. It speaks volumes to the type of person he is and his thankfulness to the community feels fake as a result.
There was one time I was watching on my TV via the app not logged in(I think he was doing antitower) and I was pretty much cursing twitch for randomly putting ads at the most exciting times(Start of the dungeon, beginning of each boss fight, any point it changed location and he was taken back by the spectacle), now I realize he was hitting it himself and I feel dirty.
I was about to comment this experience. Couldn't agree more. His scummy BestBuy insurance salesman personality came out to pressure people into ad free viewing by subbing.
Oh wow, he said that? That's really scummy
@@Infernokami yeah, he told the stream about it about the time he met the lolprits in the msq. Thankfully on his last 6.0 msq stream he said he wasn't going to do that for that stream. Haven't watched since though.
@@SquaulDuNeant Several less successful streamers & several more successful streamers don't stoop to that level of blatant bullshittery. Don't excuse bad business practice.
Yeah it feels scummy, but I think he should catch a break on that. At least he’s honest. Not sure if this is his main source of income, but that clearly comes into play, and you gotta do what you gotta do.
Bruh him saying 'Ban them all' then asmon subtly saying 'The mad king' killed me 🤣
There’s only so many times I can watch him snap and then come back the next day and apologize only to do it again a few weeks later. Apologies are worthless if nothing actually changes.
ok dont watch him? no one asked you to lmfao
@@BoatRadio I have? this post is a year old and I'm not sure you understand the purpose of a comment section....
Rule #1 of the internet: don't feed the trolls. This dude broke that rule.
...Also maybe don't call your audience idiots if you need said audience to make a living.
Just like WingsofRedemption.
he's emotionally unstable
I would imagine it sucks to feel beholden to your audience like that, I understand what he said but it lacked all tactfulness
Well it depends on a ton of factors tbh. For example see how Tyler1 or Soda treat their audience.
People who are saying he's the same as Asmongold don't see the difference that Asmongold isn't entirely serious, and he backs down and says it is what it is at a certain point. Pyro will lose his shit and not even know what he's gonna say in the next second. Words just come out of his mouth with no filter, while simultaneously insulting the people who give him his living. While he has some points, you can tell he's just saying some things because he's pissed off and doesn't fully believe them. Asmongold basically always sounds reasonable, or that he actually believes what he's saying. That's my 8Head analysis on this.
It's simple once you're known for being easily triggered it becomes a huge part of your streaming appealed. People love a good melt down watching someone get so mad over some random comment. The fact that they can see it and even if the chat is fuming mad the streamer can't see it.
Grossgore was the best for this man, but he played in for it. He would do cooking streams just so people could tell him how shit he was at cooking
90% of these rants aren't actually entertaining to watch live. There's a trick to channeling rage into entertainment, but it requires having some semblance of control and self-awareness.
@@Reldan Speak for yourself, people (the masses, thus, the majority) LOVE DRAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
We don't. But we aren't even 5% of humanity. Negativity (negative news/headlines) spreads like nothing else can.
@@nimmha6708 they didn’t say that people don’t love drama. Seems like you’re replying to an argument that no one is making.
@@lj5088 you are replying to a month old comment. "90% of these rants aren't actually entertaining to watch live."
but for MOST people they seem to BE entertaining, cuz it's all they watch, rants, violence and drama.
I used to watch Pyro until a few years back he did a video saying how his parents who he lived with were being evicted and they couldn't afford the rent.
His next stream he was given thousands of Dollars in donations along with loads of bits, subs, gift subs and Prime subs for which he was thankful for and moved to tears multiple times.
A week or two later he was unboxing new art prints, books and other merch. He stated that it was stuff pre-ordered before his video mentioned above when called out by viewers.
Personally, I found it hard to believe all the items were not cancelable/refundable and all happened to arrive at the same but I didn't call it out. Many others did and the guy flipped out at the stream, it wasn't the first time I'd seen him be so toxic to his viewers but it was the last.
I un-subbed to him on Twitch, Twitter and CZcams. Fuck that guy!
I remember that as well, unsubbed too. I remember watching his streams when he used to raid in WOW, he's always had a short fuse.
So, his parents got evicted but it's OK bcos he got WoW merch? Yikes Pyro. Yikes.
Yeah and then he stopped making content for fucking months and became MUCH more toxic after all that. I remember it well. I was dumb enough to pitch in and donate.
Ok, does this guy have young viewers?
I get it, he yells. Those purchases would've had zero impact on his financials. They're deductibles. You see, when you run a company, there's something called tax deductions and he used that.
I get it, he yells, but so far, every anecdote about this person seems like it is coming from a young person who's angry their friend simultator was rude to them.
Sounds like he pulled a scam then was pissed when called out and got caught in his scam
If I were Pyromancer, I would've just silently banned whoever instigated instead of talking back at them. He's just feeding the trolls. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy when he's passionate about the game and its lore, but whenever it comes to things like this, he needs to take a step back instead of constantly going back and forth with said trolls.
The problem is the initial starter comment was just 'no??'
Trust me , he is done , no matter what game he stream , people will just piss him off in purpose for fun
That being said, that is one way how he got popular
If he or his mod silently bann people then what will happen? No interaction, no reaction, no one will say oh look this streamer got mad over twitch chat
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But on this issue he is just wrong though and his grandstanding is what escalated it
The problem with thinking "Say dumb sh__ get treated like a dummy" Is that everyone thinks everyone is dumb on the internet, so just treat people well if they're treating you well.
@@Silonomono I think we are all idiots on the internet.
And when they don't treat you well, you don't have to treat them well. That's what happened in this case.
@@unixtreme Honestly? Yah.
Well its pretty easy if u activly go and watch a streamer and u dont agree with what he says etc. maybe just leave the stream? Especially if u see he doesnt want u in his community at that point its just weird idk why people try to enforce their shit on streamers all the time but most of those chatters are probably just jealous they dont have a chat to talk to xD
@@melissas4874 He really wasn't. I listened to the entire stream and I can say with confidence that you've got what we call "Selective hearing".
he didn't blacklist the word that upset him, but he blacklisted the name 'Lyse' when he was mad at a fictional character, lol
Really? Why would you blacklist a character name XD
Oof
Was it really that? I was there for a lot of StB and was under the impression that it got blacklisted because theres such an extreme opinion on Lyse that it causes a lot of ranting in the chat.
@@lainwolf He really hated Lyse one day during StB, kept calling her stupid and awful, and banned all discussion of her for a while right down to blacklisting her name because he was tired of people telling him she gets better. He was all "no, she's a terrible character, dude, I don't want to hear some wannabe bigbrain telling me she grows, she's already the worst and you're not changing my mind now shut up about it, but I'm going to keep grumbling at her anytime she's on screen." You'd think she's Pyro's ex or something with how he was acting, lol
Yeah... you have both of those wrong. He didn't blacklist the "word" because he didn't care but he pointed it out as a reason to shit on that one guy and ban him for the other parts of what the guy said. He banned lyse because of the same "word" things people said about her because they couldn't stop hating on her SB character. It's true that a lot of stream viewers have no lives like Pyro said yet Pyro is a guy with friends and a relationship outside of video games and online content.
I’ll be honest, I started playing Ffxiv BECAUSE Asmongold made it look fun. Nuff said.
"You guys need to interact with real people" says the guy that won't let the most inane things go.
Pyro acting like he does not go off all the time when people don't agree with him. He is the perfect example of a trigger streamer, and always will be.
Omg thank you for this comment, I thought I was the only one thinking this.
Big true. Either he was disingenuous or he's completely oblivious to how he acts almost every stream.
Everytime someone says Pyro I think of Pyrocinical. It's too late for me.
There's literally nothing a console can do that a pc can't do better, because a console is just a value-oriented computer. The difference is a pc can do so much more, and be so much more powerful than a console.
The people who truly believe that their console provides a superior gaming experience didn't arrive at that conclusion using objective facts and reasoning. They arrived at that conclusion based on marketing hype, anecdotal evidence and flawed opinions.
5 dollars isn't superior to 500 dollars. The only way someone could be convinced otherwise is if they've been brainwashed to think 500 dollars don't exist.
I use to watch him, I liked him a lot too but his arrogance started to rub me the wrong way. He has a serious problem with pretending he's above everyone else yet one comment can stab holes in his thin mask and now he's playing the pity-me game again just like he did last time, I'm not buying it.
Early on I subbed to his stream, but saw him go off in a way that absolutely ruined his stream. He was acting like a child. He decided he was going to punish chat by logging out just to prove that his server didn't have a queue time, and then... got stuck in a 30 minute queue.
He apologized and blamed issues in his life. I know it. I've been where he's at. I've raged at things, and felt spiteful, and have at time had anger issues that I've worked for years on. So I understand. But I also don't try and make a living off of entertaining a live audience where that shit is simply unacceptable. So after he apologized I didn't resub but still had him on follow and would watch from time to time. And he went off again and at that point I stopped entirely. And now hearing that he's gone off AGAIN it doesn't even surprise me anymore. He needs to get that shit under control since he's decided this is going to be his full time career and source of income. You don't go off and "punish" the people who are literally paying your salary - that's fucking insane. And then he blames everybody for how not cool it is for attacking his livelihood - too late dude, stop hitting yourself. If you can't handle hecklers and naysayers at all, this isn't the longterm career for you - the bigger you get the more clowns are going to want to mess with you. You don't walk into the office and take a shit on the floor and then tell your coworkers to screw themselves if they tell you how much you stink.
I disagree he did it make views and I would say it worked
You gotta straight up be a spychopath to be a streamer without issues. Even doing like 12 hours a week gets you on a weird mood.
Fr, he's so uncomfortable to watch when you expect him to blow up at some point. He had a moment where he couldn't get his overlay to display donators correctly, so he skipped a cutscene out of spite to show chat that he cares more about respecting the people who donate than about some dumb, transitory cutscene, and then he fumed for a bit. He was right about it being unimportant lol, but like... those people donate because they like his content. They like that he pays attention and treats the game seriously; I'm sure they could've waited a moment for him to get to a more convenient stopping point. Small things like that always annoyed me about his stream (not counting the worse moments).
(Gotta clarify that I think his streams are great when he's in a good mood and it's obviously not entirely his fault for reacting this way. It's just one of the reasons I can't watch him anymore.)
@@johnrudge5459 I doubt it honestly
He needs to get that shit under control, but not for his streaming career or anything. This clout chasing bullshit is EXACTLY what twitch chat loves. He needs to get it under control for his own mental stability and health.
Sperging out over a video game is perfectly fine, i ADORE his rants about various video games. What i don't adore is his rants about chat, because it's clear he's getting very sad and frustrated over someone who couldn't care less how he feels, regardless of whether he feels happy or sad or anything inbetween they'll just get banned from his stream and hop to the next streamer.
After the first 3 outrages I just stopped subbing and following him altogether, then he released a video saying that he'll improve. So I went back to watching the stream since like post stormblood or something. Needless to say I won't be returning again. That latest stream addressing this doesn't make me anymore symphatizing with it. Calling people who were reasonable but disagreeing with him names isn't something you would want to see from an entertainer.
Many, many brilliant, lucid, intelligent points Asmon. I am genuinely impressed and wish I could articulate these things as well as this. And I'm not just agreeing to be agreeable. Beautiful work here.
The difference between people tolerating malding from Asmon but not from Pyro is that Asmon is the kind of person you expect to mald and he doesn't pretend he's not.... Pyro pretends to be chill and wholesome and positive...then malds abruptly over the dumbest shit out of nowhere.
And pyro will stick to his guns even if he is very wrong about something. He cant let his pride get hurt by backing down. Asmon for the most part acts like a reasonable adult, explains his thoughts and is open to input from differing points of view.
Asmon owns who he is, he doesn't mald in the same way as people like Pyro. His malding isn't based in entitlement, while Pyros is based on ego.
I'm pretty sure Asmon has a handful of years on Pyro as well? So I'd chalk Pyro's inability to reel in his temper and ignore the morons up to still having some mental maturity left to go.
At some point you realize that you can't change the mind of someone who doesn't argue using logic and reason, and you also realize that the vast majority of negative shit comes from people who wouldn't ever dream of acting the same irl.
In a sense, they're not real people. Because real people irl don't act like these clowns do online. And because of this, there's no reason why anyone should take them seriously. Their terrible takes and bad opinions don't matter unless the reader decides to infuse them with meaning by caring about them.
@@SleepyFen The only moron and clown is Pyro. He deserves to lose everything for being an ungrateful, tantrum throwing manchild.
@@SleepyFen That's absolutely true, but Pyro gets pretty mad over mere disagreements and other things that just aren't a big deal at all. Someone suggests he's doing something incorrectly and suddenly he's accusing the whole chat of being 'fucking idiots', then when he realizes chat was right, he makes some excuse instead of apologizing for insulting people.
Love your content man , I don’t watch you on Twitch but CZcams , casual listening about gaming and streamers is gold 👍❤️
He gets mad at literally everything. Can't figure out and got hit by mechanics that he's never seen before? Gets mad. Died because it his first time there? Gets mad. Got rescued by teammate so he's not dying again? Gets mad. Like my brother in Christ gets angry when he didn't understand something and then gets angrier when people try to explain/help him out. Saw him doing high-end content and the moment I turn his stream on it was him flaming his teammates lol.
This whole pc Vs console players is the dumbest shit I've heard since console wars. Last I checked console players have stood right next to pc player in terms of skill. If anything it just shows how much time the Devs put into making any advantages or disadvantages almost non existent
It comes down to what works best for each person. That's like, mobile games. Us adults can't play fortnite without a keyboard or a controller, but little kids can win games of it on a touch screen somehow. It doesn't make any difference, it's preference
@@raijuko to a degree, yes, but it's undeniable that there's better and worse controller-hardware.
Just because somebody can play Dark-Souls on a guitar-hero guitar (not kidding, that exists, watch it, its entertaining), does not make that guitar a better option than e.g. keyboard and mouse.
@@profanemagic5671 Oof at Dark Souls on KB+M xD That game needed modding just to make the KBM controls usable. I might even go for the guitar on that one.
It's an odd thing... I started watching Pyromancer after his WoW explosion cause I wanted to see him enjoy Final Fantasy. After a while, he started getting this attitude with anyone that disagreed with him. I mean, people that were making points based on logic and not spamming blatant disagreement based on nothing... and would spend an hour ranting about it. What gets me is, that's when I stopped watching... and he had that same sub counter on screen, except it was double the size back then. The fact it shrank by half and this is the video that's going around now doesn't surprise me. I was drawn in by the passion, stayed for the love, got driven away by the abuse... and it seems a lot of people had the same experience.
Its not odd he was always like this ALWAYS!
I don’t know other Stuff about him but the guy saying console was better Or whatever was just stupid 😂 TF i Even own Every PS etc But also a Pc and Pc is just way better in close to Every Aspect. I think it was just a Troll and he felt for it.
But also this is way more Entertainment then a hello kitty all Are Friendly blabla stream, Rage Moments Are the best. T1 made a whole carrier out of it 🤣
I feel the same as you and had the same opinion. He's not a good streamer to watch and was carried by the MSQ experience. Now that he's caught up he's luck to get 2k viewers and needs to cherish his community, not be toxic towards them. I use to love watching him, but got fed up with how much he attacked everyone, how crazy the mods where (Even at non-spoiler crap), and how much he bragged about getting a new hours, buying Xbox and PS5's for his entire family, and would afk for 10 minutes every 30 minutes of the stream.
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 it is because its completely personal preference unless youre actually just talking performance alone.
And even then there is arguments to be made.
@@Endslikecrazy what arguments?
I am fully aware that it’s commonly practiced but if I am displeased with someone’s behavior I rather not report but just not engage with them in any form. I agree that it’s not in anyones best interest to pacify ignorant choices that end up causing hardship , I just question if the gentleman in this video has the credentials to be the one to give advice. It is always enjoyable to see things in a different light thank you for sharing your views. Best wishes always.
I'd be way more sympathetic to Pyromancer if he didn't blatantly disrespect the loyal audience he does have, abuse the copyright strike system(In which he doxxed himself, what an idiot) go off on a light trigger, and ad spamming his stream to non subs. I lost all respect for the guy. Well, what little respect remained from his WoW days when was pulling the same stuff he did in his stream.
He needs to stop streaming for awhile, or just in general to be honest.
I think the reason people don't take Asmon's "Epic Gamer Moments" as seriously is because Asmongold comes off like he's joking a lot of the time. It can be hard to tell if Asmon is seriously upset or not and so I suspect it leads folks to think he's just putting on a show. Pyromancer comes off as actually angry in these types of clips which lead people to either A) take it more seriously and act offended at his attitude or B) realize they can actually push his buttons so they keep pushing more and more.
There's definitely a lot of jealous trolls on Twitch who are a lot more interested in getting under people's skin than enjoying the content they work hard to create. It gives them a sense of revenge and makes them feel important and powerful when they can negatively affect a "famous" people like this. They're the worst kind of losers irl. The ones who want it all, don't want to work for it and gets jealous and toxic towards people they perceive as better off than themselves
I mean, he 100% is acting some of the time. He loves to play it up for the stream. And we love him for it. lol
I think another difference is Asmon seems happy and comfortable being an angry asshole. IMO Pyro genuinely doesn't want to be who he is right now. This isn't an act, this isn't played up for the camera and I think he doesn't want to be who he is when he rages. He pulls back in the seconds after the rage, and clearly becomes uncomfortable with his emotions. Trolls pick up on that, see it as weakness, which in some ways I suppose it is, and press harder, Everyone else sees Pyro feeding the trolls and nopes out.
In today's stream, I think Pyro did a good job explaining his struggles with mental disorders while at the same time making it clear he is not using that as an excuse. Yeah, I've seen people saying "Pyro always says he is going to try harder but we always end up back here." and yeah he does but that is because this shit isn't a 1-and-done solve. It is a struggle and I fully expect him to rage at chat again because I don't think he will work through this overnight, in a 1 year or even several.
when he slammed his forehead tho. That was funny af.
Mhm. Asmond's "rants" come from a place of security and to make streams fun. Pyro's come from insecurity and like he's actually trying to work through his emotions on stream. Pyro needs to remember he is an entertainer. Streaming straddles the line between entertainment and social interaction, but it is still entertainment. Sometimes you'll have an amazing community, and sometimes you have bad apples trying to upset you. That's why you can't rely on your community to be your support, you need to have confidence in yourself and not worry about having your community validate you.
This guy has always been so unnecessarily hostile to his "fans". There's a difference between wanting a degree of separation between you and your fans and actively insulting them when they start disagreeing with you over anything.
This just dropped how u already pressed, touch grass
@@nhlifts9151 I used to be a be a viewer, and I stopped watching him for pretty similar behavior to this “meltdown”.
Its not about disagreeing. pyro literally addressed that.
@@nhlifts9151 lol others have covered this since yesterday dude, this isn't new.
@@treelimbs2709 He can say that, and his point about streamers curating what kind of viewers they want is pretty valid. However he is literally banning people for disagreeing with him. Calling someone "so stupid they should expect to be treated like idiots" (paraphrased) Is not just incredibly toxic, but is 100% about disagreeing with someone
Dudes who’s jobs are playing video games and being on twitch telling you to go outside is the best kind of hypocrisy. I absolutely love it.
It's like a child's tantrum, imagine how he deals with real problems
I used to watch Pyro but he spends half his time raging at his chat over practically nothing and it just gets sad at some point. So I stopped watching him. Plenty of people love watching someone get needlessly angry at anyone who disagrees, and they're free to. I just got tired of seeing it personally.
A man that spends the enterity of Shadowbringers going "the Allagans did it" and missing important lore to mald at chat is not a lore expert in any shape or form. His entire gimmick is having dumb takes that make Matpat look intelligent in comparison.
Lol damn, that's a burn
He never considered himself a lore expert for FFXIV at all. He's even confirmed that himself and he knows that he doesn't know enough. The "lore expert" title just became a thing because of people expecting that from him just because of his WoW days.
@Jay Bee what lmao
@Jay Bee "which has actual history and battles and stuff"
Except ffxiv does as well? You're objectively wrong
One example is the War of the Magi, which you only really learn about if you pay attention to other aspects of the game besides msq
@Jay Bee Tell us you don't play XIV without telling us you don't play XIV ☠☠
I legitimately found you from rage compilations. I had never heard of you before, I don't watch streamers, but the youtube black hole led me to some of your react videos. I gotta say, you aren't the guy I thought you were from the rage videos. You seem like a genuinely good guy who is self aware. We all have rage moments, it shouldn't define us.
yea.
Pyro has constant rage moments. Eventually it does define you.
zack is a good dude, asmongold is a character, when hes being genuine hes awesome
what you do when you're faced with adversity says something about a person. there are even keel people out there too. Asmon is not and that. Thats fine. Its a trait not really something to define somonoe unless they are a ragaholic
Don’t be fooled. asmongold is smug, and thinks he’s a god who’s right about everything and pyromancer is irrelevant who only gets a few hundred views
Asmon sometimes gets angry in his stream, Pyro completely loses the plot and becomes unhinged, there is just a massive swing between him being nice and him being angry. Asmon kind of puts on a show and knows it is just content and does the performance.
who cares man
@@beelbrother1648 You cared enough to leave a reply, are you a pyro groupie? Just curious.
@@vimzim8576 No, I just don't get emotional over people who I don't know, pretend to be a psychologist, and then write gay essays about it.
@@beelbrother1648 You are coming across as over emotional... and homophobic.
@@vimzim8576 call the cops
Xbox Series X and PS5 have multiple games running at 120 fps. Also, most people playing on PC play at 60 fps. He is basically arguing that 165hz is the standard and it isn't.
Well yeah because they are made with amd hardware so they are finally modern
Not to mention most pc gamers don’t have gamer PCs. It took ages for full HD to become standard on Steam survey. 80% of people game on ancient hardware. And a tiny fraction of that 20% have PCs better than current consoles. And a fraction of a fraction have shit like 3080s and top end hardware that can properly drive 165hz monitors in modern games. And a fraction of that fraction actually use monitors above 1080p 60fps. As much as I wish 165hz was some typical PC domain, it just ain’t...
@@xtremelegend109 wasn’t there a steam survey that like 92% or so have a PC that is weaker than the new consoles? Iirc it was mentioned in a digital foundry video 2 years ago
@@JohnWick-md8ef That would have been true 2 years ago, then.
Typically whether a similarly priced PC is more or less powerful than a console depends on how long it's been since the last generation change. Semiconductor shortage will have messed with that, but eventually it'll be the usual cycle.
reason i prefer console most of the time is because games are optimised for them so mosttt of the time no silly bugs no weird ports just plug and play simple and effective and im.pretty satisfied with series X and ps5 performance which is stronger then my pc for far far less cost
The thing with Pyro is this sort of stuff isn't like a sudden outburst after a build up of energy over time, this stuff is constant on every stream he does. He always talks down to chat or picks people out to ban, and he just generally has this complex that he knows EVERYTHING that if you were to correct him, you're considered to be toxic or harassing him.
Pyro is one person which I have little respect for, he tries so hard to find "weird theories" so when 1/1000 lands he can say "I called it" but he doesn't want to talk of the 999 times he is wrong and that's why he goes into rants like this, he won't accept how wrong he is
He's always the victim and he's always right. It's all a plot for money anyway so he can buy himself another truck.
@Boa-Noah Yeah, that is exactly what many people have done. This is shown from his gigantic drop of viewership and sub numbers compared to back when he was doing MSQ (10k+ subs to 3k). Trolls use this to get him going.
Tbh it's just wierd to me that anyone cares this much about someone's character flaws that concievably everybody all share to some degree.
Yep, why i stopped watching him plus he fake
He gets "one guyed" way too easily. It's always just one guy saying something that derails him and when other people seejow easy it is to get to you they pile on.
I tried watching Pyro for a while but I started to notice he was consistently rude to chat or fans ingame for sometimes no reason. Eventually I was rolling my eyes and wondering why I was even watching if it was no longer entertaining so I stopped. Long story short, this isn't a one time thing for him lol
SAME! I wanted to watch a full playthrough of the XIV story (since I don't have time to play an MMO myself) and I thought his VODs would be perfect since he's a lore guy... but even early on in the ARR patches not a stream would go by without him yelling at party members for minor mistakes, or randos in his chat before he banned them over minor things.
It got so embarrassing and weird that I just couldn't watch anymore. Pyro has anger issues.
(epilogue: I watched Preach's VODs instead... that dude's a teddy bear.) ;P
Damn I watched Pyro for warlock stuff but that dude straight up can't admit when he's wrong.
Typical behaviour of a Narcissist
Didn't Pyro first get in trouble for plagiarizing Warlock guides?
He argued with chat really pissed off for like 5 minutes, with a full-on attitude that he knows better, when some of the more experienced members of chat were correctly pointing out Black Mage's mobility is very bad in Savage+Ultimate... because he was using Warlock and WoW design as a frame of reference, combined with his overreliance on the skills in 4man dungeons. Like he's getting pissed at chat, legitimately fuming, for chat trying to explain that high-end FF14 content actually requires things like precise positioning which both Black Mage teleports will often fail at, lethally.
Wojaks usually can't, point and laugh at him
@@jaeusa160 I'm incredibly ignorant when it comes to FFXIV end-game but I can see that. Even watching a small amount of TEA positioning seems like everything.
watching a youtube video of a guy watching a youtube video of a guy watching a youtube video of a guy streaming...fml
I deal with "personal stuff" all the time too, that doesn't give me license to behave like a raging toddler to the people who are literally funding my livelihood. Pyro is just an ass, and if he gets triggered that easily by Twitch chat maybe he should reconsider his decision to full-time content create.
He acts like a spoiled kid
He sounded like he was gonna cry, he lost by letting his emotions take control of him
Pyro's always dealing with "personal stuff" whenever he makes a mistake, he's been doing it since he started streaming back when he covered WoW, he shouldn't be streaming IMO but he can do whatever he likes, unfortunately I think we'll see a lot more of this in the future.
I just opened up the vod for his latest stream with him talking about yesterday. I shit you not, in the first few sentences he said something along the lines of "I want to explain some things about me to explain the way that I am".
Like, I haven't watched past 22 mins, but still. I feel like this vod is gonna be a ride.
@@Nedread He always says that when he had a meltdown before, he seriously needs to seek help.
For real, I thought he was exaggerating these explosions for a long time, like some kind of character. But it’s the same pattern of explosion, I’m sorry, I have issues, explosion. Dude needs help.
Personal Stuff= ADHD.
@@niksolu oh damn, well that's good at least i thought it was something serious
I really rooted for Pyro early on. It was great watching him discover FFXIV. But he went off the deep end, or maybe he has always been like that. He would go off on chat at the slightest provocation, and instead of just laying down the law when chat acted up he would be really whiny and mean spirited.
@@Hooga89 He acted like this long before he finished the msq.
@@Hammer1987 It almost felt like the closer he is to finishing the MSQ, the more meltdown he has -> spent hours arguing -> delaying msq, at one point I'd have thought that the inevitable dread of having a huge chunk of your sub and views disappear after the MSQ got to him.
@@Hooga89 He was like this but way worse before he quit WoW.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with Pyromancer about the addons.
He’s gotten undeserved attention, and that has made him overconfident. His early videos weren’t actually good and his comparison of him with Nobbel was laughable.
@@Hooga89 so you’re saying his Ivalice meltdown over the math boss never happened? Dude is unhinged and unfortunately for him people made sure he couldn’t delete this vod and pretend it never happened.
Pyromancer is one of those people who shouldn't have as big audience as he does. Dude is a literal child. Almost feel bad for him because half of his chat are genuinely laughing at him.
Well we found the jealous never to make it streamer comment lol
@@user-eb6gr1ux6w he’s literally right though. He has serious anger issues over the pettiest shit. We can see it here, he’s getting pissed that console players don’t value a platform based on how excessively high you can get your frame rates
@zzodysseuszz it's been 3 weeks no one has commented saying that so I guess we found the other pissed off streamer who never made it more that makes 2 lol
@@user-eb6gr1ux6wnah it has nothing to do with jealousy. This Pyro dude needs to learn how to deal with comments better than this.
@mac1bc ppl hate on ppl who are doing better then them in life so yes jealousy
The thing is Pyro is always abusive towards his chat audience and if they counter his points or disagrees with him, he immediately insults and gets personal and then bans them if they try to argue with him, even if the chat is giving valid points in the argument.
He is like a abusive husband or a parent that you can't talk back to otherwise you get punished, you just have to keep nodding and say yes.
It's really, really, really difficult to gather an audience on twitch if you start as a variety streamer. One of the core concepts of twitch was building a community based off the video games that the streamer and viewer both enjoy.
Fast forward 11 years later and now the community is built around the streaming platform itself and much less focused on the game. A majority of people now watch their favorite streamer for the streamer.
@@copyninja8756 point me to the successful streamer who started without a CZcams audience and built up their reputation as variety. And I will admit defeat.
@@SquishyEggo The only person that comes to mind (i don't watch many streams) is Sodapoppin. But he is special in that regard.
@@Aivas1 but Soda is streaming since its available to public :D and he was heavy heavy wow player when he became famous
@@SquishyEggo Maybe Vinesauce? Did Jerma have a big following before streaming?
I would never that’s idolization and I’d never idolize some dude with a 3k PC and a god complex
This parasocial interactions that people have with streamers are just sad and depressing.
perhaps the strummer shouldn't be so entitled
@@hotsplayer1306 Go tell that to Asmon in his chat and see what happens :)
I think getting into a screaming match with "chat" is quite parasocial. And yes, I agree it is very sad.
@@AEG3587 He deserves to suffer, lol. Not his wife tho. I feel sorry for her. she needs to leave him
Some people think that uncontrolled rage looks like "strength". In his mind, he wasn't showing weakness with this outburst. He thought he looked cool while he was doing this.
Yeah this looks like weak little man rage
I've been subbed to Pyro for a while but damn he needs to do something about how vindictive he gets. Like malding at chat is one thing but his ego has just exploded since his rise. I can remember the moment I started to disconnect was when he brought up a lore disagreement with a couple and he was still bitter about it. I get being annoyed with chat but Pyro has some serious issues that he really needs to figure out.
I did in fact go from a 150fps on my PC back to my PS5 and am enjoying it. I work from home and really got sick of sitting in front of my PC all day, thus the experience on console is better for me.
oh no that makes you inferior now obviously... lets not state the obvious that one platform is not better than the other ONE is better for FPS and the other is better for Comfort only a moron would say sitting on a chair Infront of monitors all day is more comfy than sitting in the living room or front room with a big ass tv on a console just relaxing with a controller from a distance... obviouslllly xD i still dont get the idea that people just care about FPS and so many hrtz monitors like bro... not everyone is paid to play games not everyone has 300hrz monitors so they dont get that much fps to begin with lol
If you have an NVIDIA graphics card (if you have an AMD card, there's probably alternatives for them, though I don't know of any off the top of my head) and ever want that laid back experience while still playing on your PC, install Moonlight on your PC and your TV (assuming you have a smart TV), and use Moonlight to stream your game from your PC to your TV via your local network. It piggybacks off the NVIDIA Shield service to directly stream the audio and video output of the game to any smart device (whether it be running iOS or Android), is completely free and open source, allows you to stream at up to 120 FPS, and it'll automatically detect any Steam games (as well as games from a few other launchers) and allow smart devices to launch them remotely.
@@jcm2606 Or just use a long HDMI cable and a docking station/KVM switch instead of streaming.
Thanks for the reaction, I enjoyed watching it live. Just to clarify a point at the end of the video, when I say "ban" I'm talking about the standard 10 day ban issues for TOS violations, I wouldn't advocate for a perma-ban.
People have been streaming using third-party tools for the longest: ACT overlays, UI mods, Gshade, etc... They have previously only banned those players that have affected others negatively. While the ToS hasn't changed, their policy definitely has. I understand being strict before a new piece of content has been cleared, but now the use of mods isn't affecting fair competition (for an unofficial race) or anyone else. They either need to detect and ban everyone using third-party tools by adding an anti-cheat, or continue the way it was. Targeting streamers is not okay. If they want a legit WF race with an even playing field, they need to hold an official one themselves
Dude thats intellectually dishonesty.
Ban in ff14 for 10 days mean you get ban again for any reason, the next one is permaban.
And I dont use add ons myself, but if you seriously advocating someone to get banned for cosmetic UI, you are not hurting just one streamer,
All role players and art community will get hit from this.
Preach recently just had a stream on stage play where he was asked to get a chat bubble UI plug-in so that he can read his FC roleplay stage performance along with the twitch.
That’s ban worthy? Yah! You guys are so dumb alright.
@@tuck295q If I remember correctly, it's 10 day then 20 day, not straight to perma ban. Plus, this just means the must not have any infractions for a year or so, as the penalty points decay.
For more information, I highly suggest reading the "Account Penalty Policy" on the lodestone.
I don't comment alot. But this is probably my favorite Asmongold video to date. He (asmond) breaks the conversation down to make it relatable for me. I appreciate that.
really curious to see the full video now too bad its taken down
Every time he throws a tantrum, he goes viral, gets more viewers. It’s his thing. People forget the tears when he was accused of stealing warlock tips and making videos. Then the blizzard rant. Now this.
@@knicknevin9975 wait if you mean 800 live views on twitch that's pretty damn good still? people with much less (400~) have the privilege of leaving their job and living off stream income so yeah compared to powerhouse numbers like rich and asmon it's low but i feel like they're the top % of video game streamers anyways
@@abaliagoob I remember how he when he got into the game he redecorated his office for a more FF-ish vibe, then proposed to his gf, moved, redecorated again. That stuff is expensive, each one on their own. If he paid it all on credit (and he probably did), then he really does need those views.
I heard he said the Nword on yesterday's stream.
Honestly I switched from PC to console for FFXIV and actually do enjoy it more than when I played on PC. I think it's because I play it like an action RPG instead of an MMO not to mention the controller set up is genius.
I tried both as well and ended up playing on console more. I was amazed at how well they got the controller to work for it.
@@MatthewKorpas For myself my PC isn't hooked up to my TV and it's a lot more relaxing to sit back and enjoy the game on a larger screen. Also the PS5 outperforms my current PC setup since graphics cards are still ridiculous so that helps lol
The controller set up for final fantasy is like rocket science to me, I don't see how people play like that, but also, humans are all different. Some people are just more comfortable with a controller, I don't see how this guy is gonna get this upset over something so simple and insignificant
@@shaggysweetness DING there it is, the right answer, look I love PC all my heart, it's my go to system. But I don't expect people to upgrade their system, pay 1k, just to get fancier graphics, that fucking stupid.
Paying 400 for a nice cheap system that plays pretty alright is a smart choice. Only rich assholes will say otherwise.
@@raijuko I felt the same way about it at first not understanding the controller at all but then when I sat down and tried it and played for a while it's the best. Now I will say I struggle with selecting characters during a dungeon or raid that need healed so healer is out but as a red mage battles rez is expected and it's hard for me to pull off.
So I started watching asmon because of dark souls. But I stayed because he makes me laugh. Like I really don’t care about wow, or really any mmo and yet I’ll watch asmon play it because he’s funny. Is what it is.
Getting banned in Pyro’s chat was the best thing that ever happened to me.
I WISH I had the money for a pc, I WISH I made enough to even get half this shit in his room of custom ffxiv stuff. But sadly things are hard, saving gets harder each year and everytime your close to getting that first pc, boom tire bearings break, or you have to replace all your tires, or the injectors, or the brain, then you go into debt for year taking what you could save each paycheck on something you owe. I really wish it was simple as "get a PC forehead". But sadly life gets in the way and then you spend half your life trying to save for just one PC.
Then do something about it. Break the cycle.
i feel your pain brother. ive been needing an upgrade on my pc for a good 3 years but ya know my car and house have other ideas with all the shit that breaks hahaha
@@Kartduivel666 I get it, trying to. Just some things take time and you gotta go at it in stages sadly. At least for me, trying to do too much all at once causes issues XD
@@austinroark3305 it's like objects get a sense you working toward something and then they break with a smug "oops" lol everytime!
@Jay Bee ok that makes a lot more sense. Cause the video made it seem like pc better cause ui software and get rid of console cause it holds pc back. Which isnt wrong, just makes it feel like your not wanted because all you have is console. But thank you for clarifying, I definitely see his point despite the anger lol
Any game where the focus becomes the game, and it’s mechanics, rather than you Zack, weakens the stream. But that really just speaks to your strength as a streamer man. I can listen to you speak on any subject, whether I agree or disagree for hours on end, and it will never cease to be entertaining. Never change dude, apart from the occasional visit to the shower or dentist. Love you man
completely agree. literally never played WoW can't tell you a thing about it can't name a single character or class or any of it. yet i will listen to this man give his opinion on the game for an hour straight because i love listening to the way he breaks down his points. not surprised he owns an org considering he often thinks like a CEO.
while I agree I would till like to see him play whatever, as long as he keeps talking as you say lol
I’ve never seen a pyro stream, never even knew this guy before. After watching this I never want to ever see a pyromancer stream ever. 😳
That additional video at the very end made me burst faccing kekkk
"My 2000$+ + monitor specifically for performance PC setup is better than a 3-500$ console with a standard hd tv"
wow I would have never guessed
I have a built pc and honestly it's just easier to play on ps5 for FF. No controller connection issues, no game crashes, no compatibility problems. Not saying one or the other is better but I've been playing this game for a long ass time and right now there's no difference between playing on pc and playing on ps5 side from plugins and gpose tools that I don't use. And anybody who complains about button bloat on controller is a moron who needs to learn how to read their settings.
Out of everything Pyro said in his meltdown him sitting on consoles was the one thing that actually annoyed me. The rest of his shit takes were hilarious.
@@jstraziante I don’t know if it’s because some pc players are elitists or what but I’ve seen quite a few of them shitting on console players, for example xeno (who I enjoy some of his content) said the same thing when there was a talk about updating the graphics and how the console might be “holding” the developers back from implementing stuff faster
It's true historically the developers don't go for the shiniest newest tech and they always have to design around consoles but it's because it's more important to the devs many people get to play the game.
xeno is talking about the console itself though, not console players. and he's right. developing around a console is limiting because you have to make sure it runs perfectly well on it. developing for pc on the other hand, bare minimum is you just hand the players options they can optimize themselves.
@@scotaloo77g73 I don’t think anyone will disagree that console limitations are holding the game back but, if I’m reading correctly, the issue is with taking it one step further and saying that the people, themselves, who play on console are holding the game back.
The disclaimer has me very interested
It's just like Asmon say: "Never show your audience a sign of weakness."
Pyro does that almost every stream from a 1 guy situation, where said 1 guy more than likely left after realizing they lit the fuse.
Plus it never seems that his mods try to defuse the situation either, unless it's a spoiler...
welp, nvm he actually says it, in the video.
Also Pyro pretending he never said the RWord a few months ago during StB OMEGALUL
"why don't I do it? Because I'm an idiot"
Powerful mood honestly
His main issue imo was showing weakness to the internet. Viewers and the online realm are animals, show fear or weakness even for a moment and they’ll move in for the kill.
@@Adam-082 with varying degrees of intensity. I think we can all agree that the internet (social media, streams, forums, etc.) has amplified that tendency
I wake up at 0430 AM CST for a job that begins at 0800 AM CST every single day. Being up 3.5 hours before work gives me a leg up on preparing for a day full of stupid shit from my team.
I really have been wanting to play that final fantasy game but I cannot make an account..... I'm on PS5 and it won't let me complete the process. Also what am I supposed to buy? There's so many dlc and versions of the game I don't even know what to get.
Pyro always does this shit. He can apologize all he likes but he's an abuser type . Imagine how he treats his wife when she does the slightest thing wrong in his eyes.
Makes me think of when he was so arrogant about assuming the Night Queen's sister was Freya or Aonar or whatever titan keeper it was, when all of us were telling him he was wrong and choosing to ignore obvious developments in Legion about how Elune embraced Ysera, meaning she was who the Night Queen meant when she called Ysera one of her sister's subjects. He was so angry about being questioned at the time, he called all of us idiots and morons for even daring to think that Elune uncorrupting Ysera and ascending her as a constellation of stars in her death is more relevant to Ysera in the modern era of WoW than that dragon's connection to a titan keeper that empowered her aeons ago and then vanished. And guess what? For all of Pyromancer's blustering, incredulous frustration at his audience when we tried to correct him on that, he was wrong and we were right in the end.
Or when saying it was Argus that broke the arbiter and he said that's dumb and only idiots think that
I have no idea what you're talking about but I'm pretty sure that you need to go outside.
4:13 This is true as fuck. Never show weakness.
If you can't control your anger and weakness, then I highly suggest you look into meditation, mindfulness and stoicism. Some of it may seem like kooky new age hippie bullshit when you first read about it, but I promise you that this shit is backed by actual science, cognitive behavioral therapy experts and highly knowledgeable therapists and psychologists.
In the past I had such a severe anger disorder that I wouldn't be able to calm down unless I destroyed something or was sedated by medication. I started following the advice of my therapist, looking into meditation and mindfulness and practicing them while reading about stoicism on my own terms.
I started exercising and boxing, channeling my anger much more healthily by knockin' around the ol' heavy bag, and before I knew it I had developed nerves of steel. I'm still practicing everything mentioned previously to this very day, and every day is better than the last. I now am a MUCH less angry person and I'd say I'm slightly less anger-prone than your average individual. However, I still have particular behaviors and facets of my life that need working on. I will most likely continue doing this for the rest of my life simply because I've learned to love doing it.
I hope someone, even a single person who's struggling with anger finds this helpful. Take care everyone. 😌🙏💙
Ironically its thousands of years old, its sad people palm off meditation as a passing fad
Good points, 2b.
Thanks for sharing your story!
@@wisdomfox857 Aren't you supposed to be harassing minors somewhere?
although I don’t face anger issues myself, this info is fascinating. Patience, clear thinking, and greater control over your state of mind is something anyone can benefit from, I think. Kooky hippie bullshit or not, it sounds like it works for people. Thank you for sharing
20:59 There's always, at least, one moment where I literally laugh out loud.
All of this was against the ToS since the start of 2.0, Yoshida said to everyone back in stormblood, that ACT and modifying data is still against the ToS but called the community to calm down, to don't harass people and neither stream with it on.
Well now look at what happened after all this years certain streamers continued doing so and others just changed all the UI and put ACT in every streaming. And with the game being more popular they have to take actions, the actions that are putted in the ToS.
"Congratulations, you played yourself"
It's really weird how everyone keeps calling it the "NEW" TOS it always has been there and it always was the same. It's now just exploding cause way more people play and stream FFXIV and so more people talk about addons.
@@yourdude9942 The new part is that it's actually being enforced
@@CHRISTPUNCHER18 consider it a 5 year warning. Times up
Exactly.
@@CHRISTPUNCHER18 That doesn't make it new. Leniency is not permission.
Isn't this the same dude that had the rage out about the WoW lore last year-ish?
Yeh
@@githreepi5811 Gotcha, thanks friend - he looked familiar but couldn't pin a name to the face.
@@JungKooksTwin Alright so thats what that was - I was like, 'I remember there being far more WoW stuff on the walls' xD He swapped quickly.
@@SniperKing-O "of course youre going to have a rage moment"
No. Dont normalize weird behavior. Its fucking pathetic, its just a game.
I will leave this post made by other guy on gingers video "Guy has a history of being bully. Back in the WoW days, he would ban anyone who disagreed with him. He would criticize and offend others, live, that had different opinions from him. He is an entitled spoiled child, one who cannot take a "no" as an answer, one who throws a fit for anything he wants and is denied. Not sure why people still keep giving him voice if he does more disservice than helps a community."
Literally the wojak meme personified
big true
I love how he says he don't ban because of the disagreements, when the first one he bans in the clip only disagreed with his take and didn't say any other demeaning shit. 🤣
I've had issues with Pyro for years now. When he was making WoW lore speculation videos, he was kind of a huge hypocrite about it due to him using Chronicle as a basis for stating his own theories as fact. Meanwhile, some of his other theories would themselves be contradicted by information explicitly stated in Chronicle, which he acknowledged but chose to actively ignore.
This is the same guy who was still unironically pushing the "Jaina really IS a dreadlord you guys" belief years after it was basically deconfirmed from how much it had been memed on
I'd also like to point out Pyro is the same dude who stalked an artist's twitter because they liked Wrathion x Anduin content, harassed them endlessly with phobic bullshit because he disagreed with that content existing, and then cried victim when this artists fans told him to eat shit and get out of their space to let them enjoy their WoW yaoi in peace.
Lol I wouldn't put it past him. And he's a librard but phobic? If that ain't a conundrum in of itself~
Ah the "he hates gay people" accusations to seal the deal lmao. EVERY SINGLE TIME someone is being accused of something on the internet, the finishing line is always "They're homophobic too!" lol.
@@jamestomlin5525 There are a lot of those, shocking though that may seem. PLENTY of lib types are extremely insecure about their masculinity and fly off the handle when they encounter shit like girls posting yaoi on twitter.
It’s a real shame he’s so overly sensitive and aggressive towards his chat.
Hes really interesting to listen to and his ff14 playthrough was one off my favorites
Agree
It's thanks to them he suddenly has a house and his girlfriend could quit her job. He should act more grateful considering all of his viewers probably have a crappier life.
@@zynix3698 Exactly. The guy needs a reality check and deserves to lose everything for his behaviour.
Key word: WAS Same for me
@@zynix3698 I wonder if he acts like that with the fiancee too.
The difference is you dont constantly condescended and berate your viewers. Youll call someone in chat stupid when they being stupid but you dont have an air of "im better than you" like pyro does and so it doesnt feel like your natural assumption of your viewers is "they're all so stupid" but with Pyro its all the fucking time hes just going OFF on people and like really emotionally charged shit.
Im not saying chat doesnt wind him up but this man needs to either take a breather or learn a coping mechanism. Its not healthy and its not acceptable to lash out at everyone/anyone present because you're frustrated or agitated by just a handful and thats what he does. I dont think im above that kind of reaction and constant baiting but im also not a streamer. He can keep changing games and banning randoms but this shit follows him because of his way of handling it and his responses to it, not that its his fault people are being assholes to him, but it is his fault/choice on the way he reacts to those people. Keep burning your entire fanbase and flipping out on them and eventually all the genuine viewers will leave and it will JUST be the trolls for him.
This is far from a once/twice off, if you regularly view pyros streams these freakouts are common, and the berating his chat even more so. I find it hard to feel sympathy for him at this point even though i want to be sympathetic. I just hope for his own sake he choses to do something about this and find a way to be healthier/happier because the way hes going isnt sustainable.
Merci pour votre contenu de qualité.
Pyro had some fantastic WoW lore and speculation videos but went off of the deep end at the height of the sexual harrassment controversy. He raged HARD and removed his videos then went to FF14. It looks like it could be a cycle with him.
He first started with warlock videos and was accused of stealing content, freaked out, Nuked that content, then did wow lore, nuked that, now FF14. It’s his thing. I like his content but he over commits getting in and getting out.
Sexual harassment?
What’s the story there? Is their actual and tenable proof?
@@calmexit6483 I think they meant the blizzard sexual harassment lawsuits
@@calmexit6483 They mean the Activision-Blizzard sexual harassment controversy.
@@calmexit6483 i think he is referring to the blizzard stuff not to pyro.
Poor guy. I really like Pyro but he clearly has anger issues. Really don't want to be presumptuous but maybe other psych issues also. I hope he gets some help as I really do like his content and want him to continue.
Back when I used to watch him I remember him saying he was on a few meds. I think he's very aware of his issues and getting professional help, but it's not a quick process to deal with it.
@@normalmighty That is actually good to know, thank you. I'll pray for the brother. I think deep down he is a good guy. We all have our rage and shit moment, but we don't have those moments broadcasted unlike this poor bastard.
@@austinroark3305 People love to throw rocks in glass houses. I think it is a maturity issue. Less mature people have not been beaten down by the world yet to learn some compassion.
American drama. Man is angry about his stupid audience and people are like "HUUUUUH HE'S SO MAD, WHAT A WRONG GUY". People saying he's acting like a child should look themselves in a mirror, judging him on what, 30 min of his stream while the dude is chill and passionated 95% rest of time. Of course ffXIV community isn't entirely toxic or stupid, people knows it and still are like "OMG he said it". He apologized so stop act like nobody has bad days.
All I want to know is where I get that portrait of emet?
I mean, that's just how he is. He's an asshole that hasn't made it to Asmon's level of confidence (he doesn't think he's an asshole). I had a friend who acted a lot like Pyro, cut ties about 5 or so months ago, best decision I've ever made.
Nothing against him, and if you like him cool.
@Jay Bee Scratch that. New reply, I'll try to be a bit more level headed.
In what way am I projecting? Please elaborate on that because I'm not sure I understand. I mean, I'll admit, I can be an asshole a lot of the time. I speak in a very matter-of-fact way, which can get annoying, and I often share opinions on things I have no expertise in. Yeah, you could say I'm an asshole, sure. I wouldn't say I'm projecting though, I've seen a lot from Pyro, a lot of his streams feel passive agressive, he's always ready to attack something.
And yes, of course he's not my friend but that's also why I said "A friend who acted a lot like Pyro". Meaning, someone who exhibited a lot of qualities that Pyro shows on stream but isn't necessarily the same - that's what "a lot like" means. I'm not equating my old friend to Pyro in any way, beyond just using him as a comparison.
The dude is super annoying. It's thanks to his chat donations that he suddenly has a house and his girlfriend can quit her job. Whining like that is disrespectful to the rest of his viewers who all probably have a shittier life anyway.
@Jay Bee Notice how he says like his friend and not that Pyromancer is his friend. Crazy, right? I know reading is hard but god dammit at least try dude
I actually listened to a bit of his rant about this whole thing about FFXIV 3rd party stuff. He made *some* good points but his anger and his quickness to one-up some viewers in chat just clouded his few decent points to sound like shit
The whole FFXIV Console vs FFXIV PC thing, PC is 100% better than Console. No questions asked. But the way he worded things made it sound like he’s saying Console Players are trash/shouldnt exist
Which is false. Put any high end raiding console player on PC and hand em a controller to hook up into the PC and they’ll play just as good, if not better than some PC raiders.
EDIT: Cause some of you just dont get it. Im not talking about straight up performance. Im also taking into account the numerous 3rd party tools that PC players have access to that Consoles dont. GShade, Mods, QoL add ons, DPS meters etc.
Last Edit: I added “FFXIV” in front of the Console vs PC statement just in case some of you still dont get it
High end PCs are better than consoles, but most ppl on PC arent playing on the latest high end. Id argue PS5 right now is more powerful than a gigantic chunk of PC players playing on not-even potatoes
Console vs PC but high end pc is better than console...BUT IT CAN'T RUN ELDEN RING ON RELEASE UNLIKE MY PS4 DID SMOOTHLY
@@WinkleAbiding yeah lol on Reddit when ever a new game comes out it’s always flooded with “will my 1060 run this okay?” Most people don’t have halfway decent PCs
I have a secret to share with you, 90% of the people playing FF14 on PC have a worse performing PC than the newest consoles.
High end gaming pcs are an extreme minority in the gaming community.
@@puppetstudio4989 Wait what? You lucky asf dood
The way Pyromancer behaved is what most XIV players thought all WoW players were, luckily it's like Asmongold said no one person represents an entire community.
Best advice I could give is don't let people get to you like that, or at least don't let it show. Don't become another wings of redemption where all you're know for is meltdowns. I know he has done so much more productive projects but people will know and remember you for the big splashy meltdowns.