First impressions of a very HYPED printer, calibration gets fun, more bendy resin!
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I forgot to comment more on the resin - it's not bad! I'd put it on par with conjur sculpt and ABS-Like 2.0 from Elegoo, but for the price they're asking I'd go with something else. Here are some recommendations I've tried and love, and please note all links past this point are affiliate links and so are a great way to help fund this channel
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If however you're feeling like the GKTwo is a little overkill for you I highly HIGHLY recommend the Anycubic Mono M5s Pro - it's a phenomenal printer.
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this is the best type of video for 3d priting, raw real life experience getting a printer runing.
This is the only Gktwo video ive seen that wasnt sucking it off the entire video............... Great video, for the price that machine shouldnt be missing any features
The Facebook group is insane, the printer can never be bad it's the best thing ever if it ever does anything wrong it's on you. So annoying.
Also having WiFi on this when you have to use it like a NAS is stupid.
Time to watch the whole video and see what he says though.
@@randomtvninja I hate products like that
yeah same, I have only seen "WOW AMAZING" and I was waiting for mr side to review it
No, the sticker was the right way up, you just put the lid back on upside down when you reassembled the part you weren't supposed to take apart.
This is very funny lmao
Amazing. This is the kind of content he wants us to sub to his patreon for
@Jigsaw765 yeah, go to those other 3d printer creators who notoriously never make mistakes...... oh wait.
My GK two was my first resin printer. I got the full kit with the ultrasonic & curing station. I absolutely love it. The only thing I've ran into in the past 2 months... I just wish I had about 2" more on the build plate! Lol. Same goes for the ultrasonic & cure machine. I just wish they were a bit bigger.
Also, just to share mt experience for anyone that reads this - like I mentioned, this was my first printer. I had watched a ton of videos beforehand so that definitely played a part but I was unboxed and printing within 15m. I had my first real print completely successful with all defaults using phrozen resin within an hour. Simple at every step is a valid slogan.
There is a max fill line in the vat. The resin rises over the outer shelf of the vat and the line is right where is says 700g
I think the sticker on the carbon filter got flipped when ya took it apart
yep
no, for some stupid reason, they printed the arrow correctly but they printed the text upside down.
@@shawnhawkins33 He pulled the cover off the back of the filter, out it back on upside down, The sell full replacements not just inserts.
From what I can tell, they're throwing the wifi adapters into boxes post packaging of most of the printers, as a change during production they wanted to push out to as many customers as possible. So some of them get more than one, because probably they don't track which ones got an adapter as closely as one might like.
For example, I reached out to their support when I broke a set of tank clips(those spare clips in the box), and my unit had been packed prior to them including them in the printer box, so at no cost to me, support sent me a new set of tank clips, not only to replace the ones I'd broken, but also to ensure I had the normal stock of extra tank clips that their newer units would have.
I think you need to take the build plate off before you take out the vat.
it was torture to watch you clean the vat out while you can see the resin dripping straight on the screen.
also, when you need to clean a vat out like that, using a teaspoon of metho makes the resin easier to wipe up
whats the teaspoon method
@@vermin9190 just put a bit of alcohol in the vat to break up the resin and wipe it up with a paper towel faster
This is a terrific video. I enjoy the long format of you talking off-the-cuff while you're working through exploring something. Also, ignore the nit-picky commenters.
This is exactly what I want in a printer review.
Great video. As another poster said, you were the only one who wasn't sucking it off all the way.
I do have to say I was shouting at you to clean the screen of drips while cleaning the vat. 🤣
1 huge plus for the GKTwo is the heating in very cold regions. I spend about half the year at or under freezing and the anycubic heater just cant handle it. I think the difference is it is heating the enclosure and the top layer were the GKTwo is heating the bottom layer of the vat and that seems to be the important part. I have only had the GKTwo for about a month now but it seem significantly more consistent in very cold temps. That difference was well worth the extra money for me. Very good comprehensive review.
Try putting in two heaters.
You do a pretty solid job reviewing all these machines. Keep it up.
I really enjoy the content. It is just real. If that makes sense. One of my new favorite channels. Your video on supporting resin prints was amazing and I refer back to it often. The cussing is just genuine human response and I appreciate not editing the shit out of the audio.
The max fill-line for the GK-two vat is the small slot in the top left, once that one is filled, you've hit "max"
pretty sure when they said that "this is just a backup" they meant the levelling kit was a backup in case the pre-levelling was off, not that the pre-levelling was just a backup. I do think it's worth trying a printer that is pre-levelled as it comes out of the box first, rather than levelling first, to test how good their pre-levelling is. Especially as I've seen other reviews where they found the pre-levelling was fine. A printer that generally doesn't need levelling out of the box is something that would benefit people (if done right), so def a claim that should be tested imo.
Cheers for the shout out, great review, really fair I’m a big fan of the GK2 but no doubt that it’s got a chunky price point! So that value question is a good one.
Thanks for making these! It' super nice to hear you pul up things that could be worked on and showing us the "average user" process, rather than a rehearsed "look how easy it is" video. Looking forward to more!
I like the longer, unscripted reviews of printers. it also helps us watch exactly how you do things like clean the tank, slice objects, ect. I'd love a video like this about different mini creators, maybe even include a section of wargaming quality painting after
Another thing that makes me wonder about that vat design is that whenever you remove the vat you are dragging your release film across the screen, potentially introducing scratches, especially if any dust gets under there. As someone who takes great care in never touching the release film with anything that might scratch it, that would be a concern for me.
you have a gap between the fep and screen, no more worries to have than a regular vat on that side
If there is debris there, there will be scratches. The leveling paper also scratches the screen protector.
You can see on the carbon filter holder that it has two vents, one that pulls in from the printer and one that exhausts back into the printer. Which is ideal.
You can't judge a resin from the vat cleaning function because it tends to over-expose on purpose to make sure it's got a thick layer to peel up.
With Anycubic and as far as I know most printers, you don't need to use a vat clean option. You just go into exposure test and tell it how many seconds you want.
The reason for the separate wifi adaptor is because the printer didn’t release with the adaptor available. It came out late 2023 and was a pre order when I got mine. They gave you an updated accessory kit but put in the pre order as well
I have observed several reviews of this printer, and this particular review stands out as the most informative and comprehensive. It was beneficial (perhaps not for you) to observe the challenges you encountered with the vat, as it provides a realistic perspective on the printing process.
I genuinely appreciate your candid and thorough reviews. As a new subscriber to your channel, I encourage you to continue providing honest and valuable insights.
In reference to the M5s Pro, I encountered a printing issue where a print detached from the supports during the printing process. The printer promptly notified me of a "zero release error." This incident demonstrates the effectiveness of the printer's intelligent feature in detecting and communicating printing errors.
The only honest review of this thing. You can tell the difference between "review channels" and people just use their printers.
I like these long form videos, very informative and clear criticism and praise bundled with just good knowledge, handy tips ect
Think you overfilled the vat, hence the splashes. You appeared to have resin o the lip around the edge
As to aluminium, the US spells it differently to match the way they say it
Which is a great example of why max fill lines should be considered a requirement, not a nice to have.
Because we followed Merriam Webster not the council of Scientists who kept changing it to fit Periodic table metal, naming convention. Even the Guy who discovered it wanted to call it Alumium but his council of peers kept going we need to fit the Naming Conventions. Then when he published his text book he called it Aluminum.
well there's one...@@bogatyr2473
@bogatyr2473 the max fill is the little tray at the back left corner. He just went a little past
I use a wood chisel to remove all of my prints. Flat side of chisel to plate. Push and print pops off, no scratches to plate, no damage to plate. Keep chisel razor sharp. Sharpen traditional metod. Trust me, best tool in the box.
Love the first impression video much more than just a review
Love this type of video where you review a printer and bang out a few of the minis from the month.
Six you rock dude! Definitely keep up the first impression reviews! I’m new to 3D printing for minis and your channel has been by far the best I have found. For someone who likes watching videos while doing other things your rambling and depth of knowledge is exactly what I love! Again keep doing what you’re doing brother! A sub to patreon coming soon!
Will have to try the box cutter /razor trick, once I get new printer or fix broken one
This format is AMAZING!!! Keep it up! if feels like you are here teaching me and hanging out. Feels very genuine.
After seeing you having trubble leveling the plate on the Nova, and then a lttle on this, I'm so glad my mars 3 pro just printed, even though I did not know about the spring in the buld plate till I saw you video on it after havening the machine for 6 months. with just made the printing better.
The wifi dongle used to be a paid addon. As of not that long ago all new GK two's come with the wifi dongle in the box. Maybe thats why you got 2? Idk, I couldn't imagine a printer without wifi now though. I set it up as a network drive on my PC and after slicing I just drag and drop onto the internal storage of the GK two. Now I just wish I could start the print remotely too. After having my Bambu P1S I'm spoiled. Being able to find something I want to print while at work and then starting it with the app and having it be completed and sitting on my build plate when I get home is just the greatest thing ever.
a vat without a pour spout is an immediate deal breaker for me
I enjoyed this video. I'll consider purchasing the GKTwo when buying my next resin printer.
I like the first impression hands on approach.
And your eye for details.
Probably the best review of a printer, mistakes and all. It gives a real look at what it looks like operatating the printer. Need more of this.
The Sticker didn't get put on upside down, you put the lid back on your filter upside down after screwing with it
The entire time you were cleaning the vat, resin from the build plate was dripping onto your lcd screen. You didn't mention having to clean that too.
Ive been shopping for a new resin 3d printer
Im so thankful you call out things you dont like. Its been making me feel better about geting a printer witha large price point
when doing vat clean, please use a old support on one corner, before doing the vat clean. that way you can lift it out without any hassle. also get yourself a cheap silicone brush for cleaning the vat - the scrapy thing will make scratches unfortunately :-)
I like that silicone vat scraper. I put a hole in my FEP with the plastic one that came with the Anycubic Mono 2. Resin leakage and now it does not work anymore and LCDs are out of stock.
Great format. Great to Build, Paint or 3D Print while watching/listening
I had the anycubic and it sucked, had nothing but issue with it, went and bought the gk2, and had no issue from the beginning, put the build plate on it and started printing, just like my jupiter se, no issues
I stumbled across the video tonight and this happened to be a model I'm looking at so I decided to give it a go. After 20 minutes I was fully onboard with the "this guy is really whining". By the end of the video I was really appreciating the format and the play by play.
Aluminum and aluminium are technically both correct. The "discoverer" of aluminium Sir Humphry Davy seems to have changed his mind several times as to what to call it exactly. And eventually we all settled where we settled.
I’m new to resin printing, and the gk2 was my first time purchasing a printer and I absolutely love it. I cringed at the vat cleaning method you performed, just use a support piece of resin inserted in the vat, and pull up after exposure 😂
max 700g had a line on a slope. a line. a level line. doh
and thanks for reviewing these things so disinterestedly. I love your work
it appears the filter is a recycling one, pushing the air back into the enclosure. So it is effectively sealed?
May be worth having a vented enclosure around the printer rather than modifying the recycling system.
for getting things off build plates, sharpen a standard scraper, then use it with the bevelled side next to the bed. its like a razor, but easier to hold.
I agree this is a great style of video :) put it on while assembling 3d printed minis
I'm guessing when you checked the activated charcoal, you put the cap upside down
I made a saturn 1 lid mod using a monitor hinge to get a hinge with resistiance so you can lift it up and it will stay up from the friction and it will fall down but not hard. I also made a super simple and effective pla hinge that does the same thing, it's literally just a bolt washers and two pla parts, idk why they don't use hinges with friction.
LOL you put a cover back on upside down... it's not the sticker's fault
He did it to bait you to comment
The lid needs a safety latch or the friction hinges or something
Thanks for the video.
The moment at the end with the build plate adhesion/peel forces prompted a question: I have seen other people recommend using a lubricant oil on the fep sheet, do you have any experience trying that out?
Informative video - thanks - good to see the negatives and positives brought out honestly and openly
Good video with useful content but I wish the editing was tighter, with some more aggressive editing you could probably get it down to 1 hour without loosing anything.
Thanks for the feedback! I do try and tighten these videos up a bit but I'm also trying to keep them fast and loose so I can focus my creative energy on the videos I really care about. Printer reviews I've come to decide that for me personally aren't worth scripts and tight editing.
Was interested in this printer until you started cleaning out the vat. That looks so complicated and difficult to do. Thanks for these vids. You've saved me from many future headaches. :D
Is that version of the cones of success available to download from somewhere yet?
Can't seem to find it anywhere
This was a great video, I would love it if you did a full video just on how you've calibrated your printers.
IEC cord? ive only ever known those as "kettle leads" maybe thats a british thing
"Super Useful" sounds like a character in a DeadPool movie.
The Resione TH72 Long-lasting Tough Resin is a brilliant, tough, resin, that can bend and generelly not break - It's worth giving a try, I've been using it for the last year, and the only breakage I've experienced, is when a miniature fell from 1.5m height down own tiled floor, and it was just a feather on a cap that broke.
The door on the Creality Mage is my favourite part of that printer. Its a stellar machine (at least it has been for me). I ALMOST bought the M5 but im waiting to see if creality announces another resin printer april 9th.
Thanks for the video, but I must ask: you do know you can do the exposure test with UVTools don't you? I used it on my Elegoo Mars and it works perfectly. I also have an Anycubic and I personally prefer the UVTools test as it is more flexible in setting up the test.
Highly recommend Sunlu standard plus resin. Highly detailed and durable. Using the gk2 bottom layer 5 and exposure 2.8.
One note on temperature: I noticed you're printing at 25, try it out at 35C, it significantly reduces print times and increases print consistency, it's just lovely
Very entertaining video. I really liked how you, right out of the gate, tried to destroy every single piece of the machine :-)
On a more serious note, I don't like that you got results essentially only by sanding the build plate. Also that vat design gives me second thoughts, as it seems to have several serious flaws (also mentoned in the comments below).
I'm new to printing and this video format is extremely valuable as it's informing me not only of the qualities of this printer but a lot of other things I need to consider. Idk if I'm your target audience, but there ya go.
The GKtwo is my first resin printer and I already have had it for a couple weeks now. I agree that the lid falling closed is an issue for me and I don't need the heated option at all. lol
I have gotten into fdm printers and considered getting into resin printers…watching this experience has made me realize ill just wait for the tech to innovate just a bit more lol
Watching you clean the vat was a horror show lol. Its my least favourite thing to have to do as well but jeez, you made it more of a task than it should be.
You pulled the vat first letting the build plate drip resin all over the screen. Then you squeeged the fep and vat with the plastic scraper and mopped up with paper towel. Yikes! 101 on how to wreck your fep right there.
Ideal method allows you to minimise contact with the fep as much as possible.
To easily remove the sheet of resin after a vat clean without touching the fep, place a raft with supports from a previous print in the corner of the vat then run the vat clean. To remove the resin sheet pull on the supports sticking out of the resin to lift the corner and peel the sheet out of the vat.
To clean the residual resin out of the vat use a silicon spatula (Woolies, Coles, 2 dollar shop) instead of the plastic scraper as it won't scratch the fep.
Then to remove the remaining resin from the vat use a silicon basting brush with alcohol in the vat to work the resin into solution with the a alcohol. Drain, then while the vat is tilted spray alcohol, starting at the top, and push all the residual alcohol / resin down to the spout on the vat so it drains out.
Vat should now be clean and you can dry with a non scratch microfiber cloth.
This will cause the fep to take on a static charge and attract dust and fibres to the fep surface. Use some painters masking tape to remove any dust and fibres from the fep and LCD.
Place vat back on printer and your good to go.
Love ya work mate.
re. Reviews vs first impressions - I agree with you, most products have things we don't like about them, but the real question is how easy the limitations are to work around which is something that comes with using the machine. Does the company offer regular firmware updates? How well do they respond to warranty claims etc. These are important things to know and aren't answered in a "quick" review.
BTW, I am wondering if the lid for the resin tank is to also keep in the volatiles that would otherwise escape and change the chemistry?
Also, what happens if you end up with resin on the top of the build plate? Will it get in and gum up the works?
Good format for the video. I like it
That bit of play gives you space to fit a gasket 🙂
Couple of things.
1. I'm glad your critical. Small things can be very annoying over time and helps companies know upgrade options for later models
2. People who complain about these things prob bought the printer and don't want regrets so they are just babies who can't take criticism.
3. With your accent I need you to say "tight like a tiger!" When you say something is tight!! 😅
I feel this style of 'review' is a lot better at showing the true user experience. If I as a novice bought a new printer these are the issues I would be finding.
Ignore the haters, your doing a great job showing the printer.
Keep up the great work.
Reduce exposure on the base layers, there's a bit of an issue with wide prints creating too much suction. I've set mine down to 20sec for base layers, and down to 2.2 sec for regular layers.... probably going to lower base layers down even lower.
This is very interesting. Is there a way to change lift settings to counteract this issue?
@@chrismartin1020 Yeah, it's in Lychee printer settings, both lift distance and lift speed
hey , what resin do you use with the gk2 ?
@@theo._.5593 at the moment, I am using elegoo 8k resin, but any resin should work just fine.
did you not see the arrow that is supposed to point up? They printed the text upside down.
Did you do the same dimensional accuracy test with the anycubic m5?
how can we get the new cones of calibration? I can not find it anywhere
You mentioned the Prusa slicer a few times; have you used the Prusa SL1S printer before?
"I did just bump my camera and it gave me a warning about data loss" Lets call that foreshadowing lol.
Great video, even with the technical issues.
I really like the Resione TH72, pretty much acts just like the Tenacious/Fast mix people use. I do prefer the Fast for the matte additive though.
The piston in cup effect means airtight tolerance, that is impressive.
Nice and a lot more nuanced review than I've seen from other "testers". Thx
You watched an hour and 40 minute video in 20 seconds? I mean, sweet.
@@RoseKindred maybe he is a patreon member and got it earlier there?
@@MAJmufin Good point, I'm used to seeing those as hours or days old comments when the video is just released, not "20 seconds ago" so it could just be my error. I know some people watch at 3X speeds (by other means) so was more curious if someone made a faster plug.
I like these so I can figure out which gripes I am willing to live with. That vat with all those cleaning spots is a big no.
The max fill is when it flows into the little recessed shelf towards the back corner.
The exposure test really should be a full screen, like the vat cleaner function. Also: put a sheet of paper over it first 😜👍
A little helper for emptying the vat: put a strip of masking / painter's tape across the corner leaving a small gap right in the corner that's big enough for a steady pour rate.
Love the rabbits in the video, like TheHockeyGuy with his and his cats. Great video on a printer I've been looking at for months
try spot electroplating in a plastic container on a metal plate. yes it can be even a pen, like normal arc point welder. use copper sulfate water as the tank liquid.
What are the rafts of calibration? I've never heard of those before
Apparently the reason for the difference between Aluminum and Aluminium has to do with the British Royal Society (that's the science ministry, right?) and the first New York paper to report on aluminum in the US: the BRS accepted "Aluminium", but either trying to save the cost of printing the 'i' or by some clerical error, in the US the circulated name was 'Aluminum', and it stuck.
They still talk "UK" but sing "American" - so who knows 😄
I always use the ABS pro 2, it's by far the most tolerant resin I tried and I never saw much difference compared to the "specialized" miniature resins out there.
The US power plug has flat prongs that are unsleeved all the way down. Pretty different from the EU plug, and way more unsafe.
All printers should have that type of build plate, just with textured plate.
Photon S did the hinge doors right however many years ago, why not just copy it? Why they look like they will shut by themselves at any time.
Also seeing resin drips on the screen gives me flashbacks from my multiple days troubleshooting adventure, that turned out to be fep sticking to the (not cleaned enough) screen after resin spill. I'm super paranoid about resin getting on the screen since then.
back for my #onlyhands fix always delivers!
Man, those were both slow slices, lol. I ran a test, slicing 12k 30um with a full build plate and HD AA in lychee a few weeks ago and it sliced in like 50 seconds. Then again, I also have an RTX4080, which I'm sure made a big impact.
Maybe he still had the bad videos being recovered in the background, so we can't really say whether that was a valid test.
Bro.... U way over filled the vat, that s why it was so hard to clean! Theres this little section in the corner that denotes when you have reached the limmit.