The ULTIMATE BEGINNERS GUIDE for LEROY SMITH - TEKKEN 8 (1440p)
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the long range double kick heat engager move is f4,4, not f3,3 as you keep calling it in the video
Yeah, no idea why my brain did that while recording. Joe Biden moment. I'm getting old.
Excellent guide posting timestamps for easier access
2:44 - Pokes
4:55 - Fancy Stuff (Unique Moves)
9:13 - Launchers
11:13 - Combo 9 applications
14:00 - Hermit Stance
16:56 - Whiff Punishes
20:00 - Power Crush
fucking hero
First of all I want to say that I'm writing this comment with the best intent in mind, I love t8, love the character, and I wish you the best luck with your channel hoping to grow fast and quick. That said, there are too many incorrect, incomplete or outright wrong statements and since this guide is aimed to beginners, it is better to start with the most accurate information possible rather than correct bad habits in the future. Let's have a look:
1,1 --> you don't have to go 1,1 every time. Just 1 is ok, especially in the first couple of rounds to get the "rythm" of your opponent. 1 is +1 on block, 1,1 is -9. Get a feel for when it might get a counter hit. If you are a beginner it can be hard to hit confirm 1,1,1+2,1 online, so if you go 1,1,1+2 it is not the end of the world, especially in heat, and you can allways finish the string if u predict your opponent is going to press.
2,1,2,1 --> I can write an essay about this string. This string alone can get you to purple ranks if you master it. First of all, if you whiff (on purpose or not) the first hit and CH the second one, the rest is guarantee so go ham. Then the 3rd and 4th hits are highly delayable, do that. Between the 2nd and the 3rd hit there is an auto parry built in it, so encourage them to press in it, make it look like you whiffed, or train them you allways stop the string, then delay and hit. The last hit is a CH launcher. If your opponent is button happy, and they will be at low ranks, delay even more the last hit and launch them. The real weakness is that the 3rd hit is high, but you won't find anyone that can punish that till fujin and above. At orange and red ranks they will start to randomly duck, not because they know, just as a general reflex, in that case do the last hit fast.
3,3 --> use it but not abuse it. You will hit 100% of the time till purple ranks, then they will start to low parry it. You can still use it once in a match even there, but if you are in the habit of abusing it, you will need to unlearn that, and it will take some time, so start correctly.
4,4 --> DO NOT use it as a poking tool. If they block you will get punished, even at low ranks. its only purpose is to punish -12 moves with push back, the most useful example is bryan's df+2,3. And you have better whiff punishes.
db+1+2 --> the most common use is when you are getting pressured at wall. Never use this move against characters with a lot of knees elbow, throws or jumping attacks. But it is good vs mishimas or steve for example. In the neutral it is better to use d+1+2 beause it is safe and less linear.
f+2+3 --> try to use it at tip range. It's i22 meaning that at low ranks you won't be able to use it when your opponent is close. Use a lot of b+1+2 and b+1 instead.
u+4 --> it's an orbital not an hop kick. I had to say it :D
b+3 --> don't use it at low ranks. They will never leave you the time to hit with it. Start implementing it at red ranks, then it will fall off again at tekken king territory. Use the new db+3 instead, it can be considered the new main low. It leads you in heremit stance at +5, and it is safe on block with an asterisk, in the sense that if you react to the block and they try to punish, with any punish, you can do parry from heremit and it will work. They can still wait for that and launch you, but i have not found anyone that knows of this interaction to this date. On ch 4,1+2 or 1+2,1 are guarantee, depending if you want more damage or heat.
Speaking of lows d+3,2 is the classic (it is not seeable, and nobody will correctly punish it till high ranks, if you see them block the 2, spam 1, it will work), d+2,4 if you need a fast one (alternate between ending and not ending the string), and db+4 is super nerfed use it very sparingly when you know you are going to counter hit. It leads to db+2,1+2 but no more mini combo and it is -15 on block. Best oki tho.
For heremit I'd add 4 (and 4,1+2 if you want to finish the string) cause it is your fastest option, if your opponent is still pressing buttons.
uf+2 --> don't use it as a whiff punish, you have way better options. It's a pressure tool for the wall or after heat engage, but don't use it at low ranks, the move is too slow.
I'd add more but I'll end here.I hope this is usefull to someone, somewhere in the internet and take this comment as a constructive critique. Wish you the best luck
The intention is to keep it simple, but if anyone started to get comfortable with the character, reached red ranks and now wants more, they can go back to this comment and pick something to add to their toolbar.
you mention other whiff punishes whats a good one?
@@Mojomanmax123 The best one is ff+2,2 for sure, but you have to practice a bit because if you are a bit late and they block it is launch punishable. Other ones are f+4,4 and f+1+2. That said if they are pretty close you can allways do df+2,1+2.
Fun fact: we had the best whiff punish move in the game in 7 but it has been removed in 8, lol
Do you have social media or what’s your tekken name I need to talk to you desperately 😂🙏🏾
now this is the shit i love for THANK YOU please make more as starting leroy
That’s crazy Leroy is the least used character, he’s one of the coolest just off design and the way he fights if you’re a fan of the IP movies or Wing Chun in general he should be used more
Now this is what I call a tutorial! I loved the “in match” example, the breakdown of going into hermit and out of it. I especially loved the breakdown of matches at the end. Good shit, I’m subbing and trying him tomorrow.
Wonderful guide, subscribed, i knew all of this but watched out of boredom and it was really entertaining!
I'm new to Tekken and I really liked the guide. Other guides tell what safe moves to do and frame data which is cool and all but you tell the application, then when and the why and a game plan which really helps a newb like me understand it more. The gameplay at the end was nice cuz you only used what you just taught and not some other high level stuff. Thanks a lot.
Glad to help.💪😎
I'm plateauing with this character as a new Tekken player so thank you for dropping this guide!
As someone who just started with Tekken 8 and wants to learn Leroy, this is incredibly helpful! ❤️
Love the guide and the matches you showed at the end!
Leroy was the first character I gravitated towards I mean look at the drip
I really appreciate the sample matches at the end. It really helps with application.
As a Leroy main, I had to give you the sub. Cheers
After getting intimidated by Raven and bored of Jin, I'm excited to try Leroy, love the VA and hoping to do well with him
Lol a month later, here I am bored by Jin, looking at Leroy
👍 for the Grandmaster of 💧
Thanks for putting this together.
You're welcome.
Clean guide, very easy to understand for beginners👍
Thanks for the guide, really easily understandable! I always wanted to give Leroy a try after I've seen he's so unpopular in this version of the game.
Thanks for the video, that's hella helpful! This is my first tekken game, leroy was the last character i tried when deciding on mains, shame on me he is so fun!
Glad to help!
Easy subscribe. I hope you get more eyes on your channel fam. your stuff is good.
Much appreciated!
Just started with Leeroy, this helps a lot 😊 so stylish and fun character
great video. i'm picking up leroy now
Have fun, mate!
Thank you for these tips! Wunderbar !
Sehr gerne!
Absolutely love your beginner guides! Please do next on Shaheen. Thank you!
Have not tried Shaheen once. Yeah, maybe now it's a good time to do that. Will see what I can do.
Great starting guide
haha, your video very simple, ez to get and very reality, love that moment you write "Sample combo 9" during showcase your fight xD
Amazing guide 👌👌👌
I think something that you really did well that other guides won't was cut the fat . This was great, huge fan.
The only wish I had walking away was any sort of utilizing sugar which is a little bit of the fat. So I'm a hypocrite but a fan. Good job bud!
Well, you can use Sugar. 1+4. But it's a joke move and not useful at all. Still... if you manage to end a round with that move... you propably become a Leroy legend. 😂
Another great move that captures opponents off guard is db4, 2 or 1+2. That too is a great launcher
really great guide
Thanks!
Actually like Leroy a lot! I switch between him and Law since I’m a karate movie junky!
As a first timer to Tekken- Leroy, it is exactly my guy. Theres a lot of fun characters, actually. I dont play him nearly as defensively as I should, and I still have a lot of combo stuff to work on. But for the mindgames and mixups alone, he's so good at applying pressure and keeping people guessing. Just my basic knowledge of that stuff got me to brawler. Do NOT be afraid to get aggressive, but if you notice yourself getting caught up by the opponent- take a step back to breathe and focus on countering and playing more defensively for sure. Leroy is lowkey a monster when it gets down to comebacks.
Great you enjoy him!
Thanks for the guide! Just a note on your whiff punisher section. It's not F3, 3. It's F4, 4
Yeah, got that mixed up. Already pinned it in the comments.
The last bit where you say “make sure all your moves have a purpose” is gold for new tekken players and should be followed by anyone trying to improve on any character.
Tekken 4 Airport stage OST background? Is that in game how did you do that?
The music you hear is my editing. But you can actually change the music for stages in the game. Under customization and then jukebox.
I just realized, Lili’s cat’s name is Salt and Leroy’s dog’s name is Sugar. Eternal rivals?
They act more like friends to each other.
good guide for someone just wanting to fuck around at first without getting totally shit on ^.^. just mind the labels as your 3s and 4s are mixed up a couple times
also wanted to add. very fun and informative sequence at the end. awesome. i havent seen something like this yet
I’m trying to learn Leroy myself because he seems interesting and im surprised that he’s one of the least played characters.
Only thing missing wit leroy is a backflip
4, 4 is -13 on block (didnt hear u mention it in the video) so as a poke its pretty lacking and u have to be pretty careful in how u use it or you'll get punished for 30 damage or more
10:05 (u4 or uf4) is an orbital and not a hop kick
also qcf2 (elbow) is a launcher that is safe on block (-6) and ducks jabs if timed correctly
It is good for poking at max range, because it is harder to punish with jabs from that distance. I usually don't talk too much about frame data in these guides, because they are aimed at beginners. Don't want to blow their minds out with another 20min lecture on mathematics. Maybe I'll do a seperate frame data video later, or intermediate guides for the characters, where frame data is more important, but I can not tell right now when I am able to get to that.
@@judge_rekt got it! my criticism was not me saying the video was bad, just to clarify for ppl who might go thru the comments. this is a good video for beginners who wants to learn the character for sure. good work
@@kaskafi Cheers, dude.
I reached the red ranks, but I can’t go further.
db3, hermit b4 also good move
You did good when you reached red ranks. Next step is now to add on that. Watch your replays and pick thinks you can improve and add to what you already have mastered. Maybe you need to learn side stepping. Maybe it's just missing knowledge on opponent strings. Pick one thing at a time and you'll get better. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
Drip tier list
S+ Kazuya
Lee
Leroy
Leroy is just so cool I couldnt care less if he is OP or absolute trash, as monster hunter players like to say, we are fashion hunters 😎
You forgot that you can launch using b1 hermit on counter hit. But anyways good content dude!
Wanted to keep it simple with hermit.
Are these the same moves in Tekken 7 ?
Can I use this tutorial for Tekken 7 ?
I have Tekken 7, not Tekken 8.
They changed him quite a bit.
Hellsweep can now only be used in stance.
And he got some new moves, while they took some from him.
Also combo routes are different now.
@@judge_rekt can you please do a beginners guide tutorial on Leroy Smith for Tekken 7 ?
I just started using him on that game and I want to be able to use him properly.
Is df2,1+2 no longer a good launcher to use ?
Tested it with sample combo 9.
df2,1+2 launcher total damage 70.
ff2,2 launcher total damage 69.
But df2,1+2 is -18 on block.
ff,2,2 is -15 on block.
That means, even if both are unsafe, with reaction time you are less likely to get launched after f2,2.
ff2,2 also has better range, so it is easier to use as a whiff punish launcher than df2,1+2.
You can still use both, I just think ff2,2 is a little, VERY LITTLE, bit better.
@@judge_rekt Thank you
@@Medali1234 Anytime.
@11:36 I've found an easier version of this combo that operates the exact same way after any launcher the combo is DB1,3 / 2,1,2,1 / B, 3+4 same exact damage too.
Just tested this. Every variation I do it deals 1 less damage. Well, I guess that is not a big difference.
@@judge_rekt you’re actually right I re tested it last night
@@GirlthatsBilly People can for sure take whatever they like. I just think it's easy for beginners to pin a sample combo right up there in the game to start with. Both variations are for sure not optimal, but it's enough for starting out.
what is CH in CH 11...
CH = Counter Hit.
A counter hit is when your attack connects while the opponent is in their startup animation of their moves. So your attack hits before theirs hit basically.
Almost perfect guide, but needs wall carry and wall combos.
Left it out intentionally. I consider wall stuff advanced and not basics.
@@judge_rektlots of legacy players returning gonna watch, and t8 doesnt even have endless stages, so wall carry ender is basically the new bnb, cause its mandatory 9/10 times. Welp, its up to you
@@VDViktor The Idea was doing separate intermediate videos for the characters in the future. But I am still working my way through the roster. 32 characters is a lot.😂
I am glad to see a wing chun based factor in a game, but I would de-drip him though getting rid of the chains and going to a more AME church look.
You can de-drip him if you want. The character customization allows it.
Got him to raijin hehe as a side quest but he’s genuinely the worst character I’ve played so far.
He needs buffs.
in the progress of learning him i think as well he is really weak. only one command throw which everyone will escape eventually, only 15 frame stand up punisher that actually can do some dmg, lack of mid launchers which are have some range, weaker combos compared to others, while reina, dragunov, and many more easily can throw up a 80 dmg no heat combo, leroy just cant. heat smash has very short range and not even low starer, very limited mixup possibilities, no whiff punish launcher. while playing leroy is fun for some time, you will struggle at higher ranks. Only advantage playing him besides u like his style not so many players know how to defend against him yet. btw started to play him after i saw your video:) and i like to play less popular characters. cane should be usable once per round, or once per match but 1 per each version. the forward one is blocked almost everytime anyway
I am still hoping for buffs later down the line, so when people manage to climb with Leroy early, they developed their fundamentals and are a step ahead of the curve already.
@@judge_rekt patch incoming today/tomorow.
Leroy getting some nerfs in this upcoming patch now, wtf man.
Crazy