The 2024 Acura TLX Is A Mild Tweak To A Solid Value
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- The 2024 TLX is barely a refresh to be honest. Some European car companies wouldn't have even mentioned a re-styled grille and bigger LCD, but that doesn't mean you should overlook Acura's refinements. For 2024 the TLX focuses on Acura's core repeat shoppers as well as streamlining inventory for dealers and customers alike. With sedan sales sliding we should be thankful Acura is still dedicated to their midsize/compact flagship, but that size confusion continues to be the TLX's achilles heel. It's 5-Series sized on the outside, but smaller than the Integra in some dimensions inside. So what it is? It's the reliable and fun to drive value alternative to the S60, A4, 3-Series and C-Class, and that's just fine.
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This is literally the only review that talks in detail about why the TLX is so huge on the outside and tiny on the inside. Thank you.
I thought the point of front wheel drive was space efficiency. I don’t understand how it can be so small inside. If that’s the case just make it RWD.
I cross-shopped the TLX Type-S, G70, S60 Recharge, and Q50. Bought the 2023 Type-S in late September and am delighted with it. It takes a little time to get used to the goofy trackpad, but now it's second nature. Fuel economy is directly proportional to driving style, but 25 mpg is my average with mostly local driving. Saw 30 mpg on long highway trip.
Good to know about the highway mpg
@@TIGERJS My Type-S dealer experience was also excellent (Leith in Cary, NC). The car is more than fast enough for me, handles well enough, has an adequate trunk (unlike the G70), can be had with an optional real space saver spare tire, and has a superb sound system. Yes, it's a little on the heavy side, but I'm ok with that. I don't care about the electronic driver assists, and leave them mostly disabled. You can also disable the idle stop (auto stop-start) with a center console button or by programming the individual drive mode to leave it disabled.
@@henrybrandt1057 good to know. I test drove one last Friday and it was putting a smile on my face the whole time.
The track pad becoming a second nature. Liar, liar!
@@SBM200612 the track pad for it main system work entirely different from what lexus had.
The comparison should have included the Cadillac CT5.
They wanted a rear drive stance with a transverse front engine. The weight distribution is front wheel drive. Interior space is a compact.
The engine compartment with the 4 cylinder looks like peanut in a suitcase, 3 ft of empty space from bumper to engine😂. Acura is selling a lot of empty space.
Currently have a 21 A-Spec FWD which I love but I do have an objective view of the uptrim models in this segment. If one can swing it, the BMW M340i xDrive is the way to go as it really does combine sublime performance with exceptional fuel economy. If one wants to go with a value play then the TLX-S and G70 3.3T are worthy considerations; granted I'd lean in favor of Acura over Genesis due largely to the good experiences I've had with owning both Honda and Acura products.
Alex!!! Somehow I lost you for quite a while, after you changed your channel's name. So strange, have not seen you on my feed until now. So great to have you back. Fantastic review, as I remember them. Easily the best review of this car on CZcams.
Why won’t Infiniti just do this for the Q50? Such a shame. It needs the Z’s gauge cluster and transmission, the QX60’s dash and infotainment, and the maxima’s vented seat function, rear heated seat function, and pano sunroof. All are things in the Nissan parts bin that would keep the Q50 competitive in today’s market, as I think it’s still a very good looking car (esp 2018+). All are things they could’ve added at launch of the Q50 back in 2014 or whatever. And most certainly they are all things that they could’ve added during at least one of the 10 model years that the car has existed in its same form. Sad as hell that it’s not even rated in these comparisons anymore
infiniti is revamping! once the new QX80 is launched.. maybe they will REVAMP
@@KuyaArbee new qx80 has so much character, I'd be happy if even 30% of that design language trickles to the q50
Sadly, Infiniti is dying.... slowly.. Q60 gone and Q50, same as '14.....
if this was a touch screen and LIFTBACK/SPORTBACK it would have been PERFECT
They should buy the manual Acura Integra Type S or BMW M440i xdrive Gran coupe Sportback instead
Or a 6spd option
Are you looking for: Integra Type S?😆
The type s is the best looking car out right now. This will probably be my next vehicle
@@japanwatchconnection good for you
As always, Alex squeezes five solid hours of great info into 30 minutes of compelling video. Hands down the best auto channel in existence.
I feel like Acura and Mazda are the reliable sporty vehicle makers. If so, then Mazda should also bring back the MazdaSpeed versions of their vehicles to put more Zoom-Zoom in their line-up.
2023 Honda Recalls and Class Action Lawsuits
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About the 2023 Honda Recalls and Lawsuits
The recent headlines surrounding Honda have been dominated by a series of recalls and class action lawsuits filed against the automaker. These issues involve concerns related to brake and rearview camera defects, electric power steering system malfunctions, and alleged variable timing control defects. In this article, we delve into the details of the Honda recalls and class action lawsuits, the impact on consumers nationwide, and how Lemon Law Auto Fraud can provide guidance and support in safeguarding your rights and seeking compensation.
Honda Recalls: Brake and Rearview Camera Defects
Honda recently issued recalls for various models due to brake and rearview camera defects. These recalls address potential safety hazards that can result in accidents and injuries.
Unexpected Loss of Brake Function: Honda recalled over 124,000 Civic, Passport, and Pilot vehicles, including certain model year 2020-2021 Civic, 2020-2023 Ridgeline, 2021-2023 Passport, 2021-2022 Pilot, and 2020 Acura MDX vehicles. The recall was prompted by concerns that the vehicles could experience an unexpected loss of brake function, increasing the risk of a crash.
Defective Brake Holds: Another recall impacted nearly 400 model year 2023 Civic, Accord, Acura RDX, and Acura Integra vehicles. These vehicles were manufactured with defective brake holds, leading to potential movement while the brake hold is activated. Honda plans to notify impacted vehicle owners by mail, starting from July 24.
Rearview Camera Concerns: Honda recalled over 1.1 million Odyssey, Pilot, and Passport vehicles due to defective rearview cameras that may not display properly. This recall applies to model year 2018-2023 Honda Odyssey, 2019-2022 Honda Pilot, and 2019-2023 Honda Passport vehicles. A non-functional rearview camera can compromise the driver's visibility, increasing the risk of a crash or injury.
Class Action Lawsuits against Honda
In addition to the recalls, Honda is facing class action lawsuits that allege serious defects in its vehicles' components.
Variable Timing Control Actuator Defect: A class action lawsuit filed against Honda claims that the automaker knowingly sold vehicles with defective variable timing control actuators. The alleged defect, affecting model year 2012-2014 CR-Vs, 2012 Accords, and 2012-2015 Crosstours, can lead to catastrophic engine failure and poses a safety hazard.
Defective Electric Power Steering Systems: Two separate class action lawsuits were filed against Honda, asserting that model year 2022-2023 Honda Civic vehicles were manufactured with defective electric power steering systems. These systems may "stick," requiring an increase in steering effort, leading to overcorrections and potential collisions.
Electric Braking System Sticking: Another class action lawsuit argues that Honda sold model year 2022-2023 Honda Civic vehicles with electric braking systems that can stick at highway speeds. This alleged defect can cause vehicle owners to overcorrect, increasing the risk of collisions.
As an 2010 Acura owner, we just had to worry about the beak, the relative down on power compared to mainstream turbos coming up, and lack of type S model. This TLX type S is 15 years more advanced but I have a lot more problems with the design choices especially the proportions as you mentioned this time extensively. It makes sense the current gen TLX replace the RL and Acura should create a new TL based on the excellent new Accord.
By the way thanks for continuing doing the consumer oriented review as you do, as many auto journalists even newer ones start to sound like a commercial, prioritizing quirks and performance above all else since they get to drive a different car every week.
For me I still just like to buy the best all around car that doesn’t break the bank and is easy to live with every day.
Yes I do remember the beak style engineering days. Not sure what was going on in their minds.
Yes.. I drive a mint, modded, low km 2013 TL Shawd and still love it. I agree they should create a new TL based on the Accord. Haven't upgraded to the 2.0t Accord because I hate how it looks. Strongly considering 2022-23 G70 but don't trust long term reliability of any competitors vs my 4th Generation TL.
Jeez, I was just in the market and cross shopping this with a cpo M340ix or M40i too. This review came in at the perfect time! Thanks Alex and the team 😅
Are you gonna go with the TLX or a BMW? 👀
Nice to hear the comparison to the Volvo S60, but it seems the G70, which I believe is the direct competitor for buyers like myself, continues to be missed.
G70 is on my short-list.
Owned a 2020 G70 3.3t and enjoyed it but had tranny issues where it was clunky and not smooth. Dealers are worthless as they are Hyundai dealers. Not the experience i I wanted when buying a 52k vehicle that was branded as luxury. Sold it within 1.5 years. I should’ve purchased a M340i from the get go. Spend the extra and get the King in it’s class M340i
@@closg9309 I have a 2021 with no issues. I agree on the dealer experience although I have only had the need to take in for oil changes. The local dealer by me is actually separating into its own building so hopefully a more upscale experience than currently with Hyundai.
Acura rep probably told them and have them sign an agreement to not mention the g70 since it is actually the most direct competitor. You get more bang for the buck with the g70 and Acura doesn’t want people to know that so that they can keep their current customers and attract new potential customers. Automotive politics are being played by the car manufacturers and car reviewers. Like why wouldn’t the reviewers mention the obvious (g70)?!
@@closg9309 2021 3.3T sport prestige. No issues at all. Should have saved money and went up a year. Since G70 was brand new vehicle, Genesis had to fix issues with every year to make it perfect. 2021 and up are great
I looked at the TLX before buying my Integra. Honestly, the touchpad was why I didn't pick up a nice used TLX versus my 2024 Integra. I really love the Integra.
Excellent review. Compare cars is a great feature you have added to it. Other reviewers just barely mention the pricing. I have my 2023 Stinger GT2, and every day, I am more proud of it. This TLX for 58k does not have an electric steering wheel for adjusting it. Super small second row and trunk. Reliability and depreciation are on the plus side. It is better than the expensive Acura Integra Type S.
A good looking sedan for sure, but I'd gladly give up that mile of useless hood for more back seat room and a bigger interior
I already have Acura tlx aspec 2021 and its awsome.
Alex, Sharpening their knives? It looks like the lower bumper will 'slice, dice and make Julienne fries'. To Acura/Honda's credit, this is a rare example in their corporate portfolio where interior space efficiency has been completely chucked out the window. Did they mistakenly hire some of Toyota's TNGA team to design the TLX?😉🤣
That’s very interesting that you mentioned Toyota’s new post-2015 TNGA car platform because their new cars genuinely have far worse passenger room to almost all Rival Honda models. That’s exactly why the Acura TLX’s trash levels of rear interior space is a nonstarter for so many buyers. A Honda Fit will give you more comfortable rear passengers than a Acura TLX. This TLX is an absolute sales flop
The TLX was designed to replace both the TL and TSX, which might explain why they made it a "tweener" from the beginning. So it got the exterior size closer to the TL, and the interior closer to the TSX. What's even stranger is that they decided to price it like the 3 series even when it's longer than the E Class.
@@SilverScarletSpider Even in an Acura review, I try to never miss an opportunity to bash Toyota for their shrunken TNGA models. In general, Honda has the sense to build large interiors inside small exteriors. Having said that, the rear headroom in a car as big as the Accord is a joke.
@@SilverScarletSpidernot every TNGA car has shrank
The Camry for example has very similar interior space to its predecessor that was not on the TNGA platform
@@naveenthemachine That's fine. The newer Toyota Camry still have worse interior space and feels more cramped than a comparably priced Hyundai Sonata and Honda Accord. Even if the new Camry is similar to the old ones in interior space, they obviouly have not caught up to their rivals in other models. Especially egregious is the Highlander vs Pilot, and Corolla vs Civic. The average American man is fatter than normal and they prefer wider cars.
This Acura TLX design is just a failure on all fronts.
Hi Alex, nice review as always. In terms of cross-shopping, how do you think the TLX Type S compares with a Cadillac CT5 V-series (non-Blackwing)? The power figures are somewhat similar and the CT5 is priced under the German brands.
Amazing video Alex.
Great detailed review and nice comparison with other vehicles in the same class. Just wondering if you had to pick the TLX with A Spec or TLX type S and why?
"where does the 9 inches go?" I think we know 😂
Soldier on Alex,, Rain reviews Hooah!
They are pretty cars, very nice looking both inside and outside. I do think the S4 is a little more attractive than the Acura. I have an A5, so I admit to some bias, but last year I accompanied a good friend as he tried the new TLX S and then went to an Audi dealership and tried the S4. For similar priced vehicles, the Audi spanked the Acura in just about every metric, including ride, handling, accleration and mileage. I like both cars, but it wasn't really a contest as to which was better overall. If I was currently in the market, I'd think about a used/CPO S4 before a new TLX S. I'd imagine the Audi depreciated more than than the Acura and might be a better deal. JMO.
Thanks for another great video, you're reviews are the best, you convinced me of both mine and my wife's current rides!
Civics have more interior space now?
Nice review nice car. It is unfortunate they won't get off the track pad. Most of us that might whant a gents sports car could have a a few hand issues. That track pad is no fun when you put on a few years.
I would pick the TLX with 4 cylinder. GOOD LOOKING CAR
Alex could you fit a forward facing car seat in the back since you mentioned it was right back there.
Forward facing is not a problem, but generally speaking forward facing is rarely a problem
6:07 What brand name is ES mentioned at chart?. Anything Acura is a must Like for me
12:27 As a previous TLX Type-S owner, I confirm that the turbo lag + transmission lag are obvious, sometimes dangerous.
Acura, why did you discontinue the red TLX Type-S? That's the best looking color! And why there are two grey colors...
and apex blue man! that was my fav color
@@AdulisChedoMokanan Blue is still available in US, but not available in Canada 😢
1. The A4 is FWD biased. In Europe it is offered as FWD.
2. I find the Lexus IS styling more attractive than anything else in the segmant and actually like the interior, sure it dates back to 2013, but its still well put together and very comfortable. It is a shame Lexus doesn't offer the IS500 with AWD and shame there is no ISF option.
3. The Mercedes is a waste of money, nothing special, doesn't drive better than the Bimmer or the Lexus, way too expensive and not reliable.
4. I think the TLX is very attractive, a shame about the infotainment, because otherwise it is a very smart option.
5. The S60 is very promising, and I didn't drive the 455hp, but I hope its better than the T8 before, because that was disappointing with very FED vibes and lots of understeer
No one wants touch screen. I love the pad. Say no to fingerprints on screen
@@japanwatchconnection Yeah true I the 21 Type S & it still takes getting use to when my previous car was touchscreen
You stated that the S60 was more comfortable than the TLX type S, yet your star rating chart shows the opposite.
Wish they would drop this power train into the RDX. I have a 20' and am dissapointed in it ecspecially considering previous Acura/Honda models I have owned.
That's the only reason I haven't traded my 2013 TL for a newer RDX. No 3.0 turbo V6. Just can't do it no matter how great looking it is. Started to price shop for GV70 3.5t but heard about their rear differential failures so no go. Still looking for something else.
The only things I dislike about this car are the trackpad and the push botton shifter.
The Integra has more usable interior space than this car. Unbelievable
Why isn’t the g70 included in the comparisons??
Needs a hybrid version
Stop with the hybrid nonsense
Nice car. I like Acura. But i think im stil going to stick with Lexus
Pass. Rather have a CT5-V. I can get a good for 51K.
Have owned Acuras, Lexus and BMWs. Daughter looking at a car and this (4 cylinder TLX) is on the list as is the IS and the 330; her money, her choice but I don’t understand this car. Big on the outside, small on the inside, busy transmission and wacky infotainment. Reliability is its key, as it is in the Lexus IS also but BMW has gotten better with the B48/58 family of engines in that regard. This type S should be at roughly 400 hp and 0-60 in the mid 4s at a minimum IMHO.
Acura recently released a video where they go into detail about why the specs are what they are. Has to do with ratio and proportions. I don't know much about cars but I will assume Japanese auto engineers know what they are doing.
@@anthonyhenderson8632
Yeah, they do. It's called being conservative.
How the hell.the trunk not automatic these the things i have a problem with back seat tight i guess its 4 series c class what goes against 5 and e classs
Acura TLX has lots of grip , the vehicle feels planted on the roadway. I only wish the TLX was pushing at least 400 hundred horsepower
Is the Aspec the Tech or Advanced/Elite? Advanced Aspec wouldn't be so bad.
Type S & Aspec are, Imo, both down on power.
Base Tech @272 is fine
Aspec should be 320 (Integra Type S variant)
Type S, all along, should have been minimum 380, max 400.
Just my opinion
The digital guage display just seems to cheapen it in some way.
Why wasn't the Genesis G70 or G80 in the comparison??
Interior design is just so weird. I can’t.
All that talk about type s and tweaking..Acura needs to get those recalls on those new engines fixed..doesn’t make sense to have a 2020 -2021 with rod knock…
1:40 Sized like an accord, but interior space like a civic
2:20 Still FWD based, nose-heavy weight distribution
5:30 Terrible rear seat space; worse than last gen TLX and 2004-2008 TL
6:30 Bizarre design
8:40 $60K+ and no touchscreen lol; 04-08 had a touchscreen
11:20 5.0 sec. 0-60
14:00 Type S(low)
16:55 Abysmal MPG due to being overweight at 4300+ lbs
20:50 Lexus ES more comfortable and efficient; better sales
26:55 M340i >> TLX-S
29:00 Value; reliability
You're better of getting Genesis G70 3.3T with 365 or 2024 2.5 with 300 hp. You'll get way more for the price. 4 beautiful brembo calipers on all 4 wheels not just on two. True rwd or awd car unlike Integra which is fwd or fwd biased. You even get rear heated seats.
@@japanwatchconnection lmao is350 is500 tlx type S all have same if not worse leg room, especially tlx type S. It's extremely long but barely any space
CT4 or 5-V is a better option.
There type s cousins anyways
The fact Acura doesn’t make the Type S in a Manual Transmission is ridiculous .
TLX sales down 75% MoM and 50% YoY. Ouch.
Honestly this 3.0T makes less hp, has slower 0-60, and burns more fuel vs all German 3.0T models…
You can’t put ‘reliability’ above everything, especially now we’re seeing massive head gasket blowoff of Honda 1.5T…
Those models are going to be more expensive though.
This vs the is500? The 5.0L v8 is all the is has going for it
@@naveenthemachine the es 350 is more comparable in size tho and has more room and a touchscreen unlike the Acura track pad
@@normanli7085 but it’s very slow and boring to drive
The performance isn’t that great
@@japanwatchconnection any car can be comfortable and sporty at the same time. It exists
Just because it’s sporty doesn’t mean it rides like a focus rs
Acura = Complacent
On certain models I have to agree, I have a 20RDX and am very dissapointed in the turbo engine performance (why it couldn't have been a souped up hybrid I'll never understand) I have also experienced better climate control systems in geo metros as well. Hopefully it at least holds up on the reliability side.
Not really. They’re not complacent
Infiniti or Lexus however…
Test drove one a while back. Infotainment setup is a deal breaker for me. Also, a front wheel drive based performance sedan is a joke. Looking at you Audi as well. Nose heavy handling.
To give the edge on styling to the S60 over the TLX is baffling to me....
While we try to be as factual and informative as possible styling is wholly subjective. If there's any information to be drawn from that ranking it's that Alex likes the S60 styling. -Travis
It costs over $60k, nothing about it is a "bargain".
60,000 for 4cly 😂😅😂😅😂 Hell no
Exactly, but I guess someone is itching to buy one outhere..
Its all bout power bout it honda better just no power
Why not making it a 400hp?...for this pricepoint, this car is under powered
I have the car & agree it should be
Take a breath. Wow
TFL already dragged this car versus a regular V6 Mustang. Well the Mustang won.
Wrong. The Mustang in the TFL video was a GT, which is equipped with a V8. The TLX Type S beat the Mustang in the drag without using launch control and then beat the GT in a roll race.
First you said you wanted a touchscreen and then buttons for the AC controls?? Do you use your smartphone while driving?? lol
That hood looks ridicoulus. Looks like the hood from an old school Cadillac. The Q50 looks better, and the Q50 has a decade old body style.
No one wants to touch the screen leave the touch pad alone and focus on driving and leave touching for your cellphone while not driving
Acura rep probably told them and have them sign an agreement to not mention the g70 since it is actually the most direct competitor. You get more bang for the buck with the g70 and Acura doesn’t want people to know that so that they can keep their current customers and attract new potential customers. Automotive politics are being played by the car manufacturers and car reviewers. Like why wouldn’t the reviewers mention the obvious (g70)?!
Other than the climate control buttons, the center-console/infotainment area is terrible. I always feel as though Acura is only halfway there.
When it was the TL, 03 was the last good model.
So as usual, the BMW and Volvos are fun to drive but horrendous to actually own. If you're purchasing a car with the intent of actually owning it, the Acura is most likely a safer bet.
Wow....no improvment at all...just say no! thc
Who's worried about back seat space for tall adults? I never see even four adults in a car, mostly see kids or teenagers in the back. Much ado about nothing. If one has a need to haul adults in the back seat, get a full size SUV or a van for Christ's sake... Stop pointing out details no one cares about.
I do like this gen TLX but more attractive than the current gen IS? Come on Alex, no way..this looks frumpy, tall and IMO a bit pretentious by making it appear more RWD.. current gen IS is arguably best looking sedan, compact or not, on the market right now.
Nothing luxurious about this Accord. Everything is a compromise due to its economy car roots. Price on this is insanely high. Only diehard Honda fans blinded by the H would buy this
Nth abt this is compromise or accord
Acura is dead
No acuras fine
@@japanwatchconnection they’re fine. They know how to execute strong products
@@naveenthemachine Acura is not fine when all the Naveens in the world pick Camry over TLX.
What a horrible color