Acura TLX Type S Vs Genesis G70 Comparison: Life Beyond BMW
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Senior Editor Brett Evans and Managing Editor Jeff Perez drive the Genesis G70 and Acura TLX Type S head-to-head on a road trip to the Salton Sea. How do these sporty luxury sedans stack up against the German competition? Join us and find out.
Read the full article here: www.motor1.com/reviews/709541...
00:00 - Intro
00:38 - The Competition
00:59 - Drive Route
01:30 - Acura TLX Type S Driving Impressions
02:56 - Genesis G70 3.3T Driving Impressions
04:25 - Halfway Point
05:07 - Acura TLX Type S Driving Impressions
06:20 - Genesis G70 3.3T Driving Impressions
07:38 - Salton Sea Arrival
08:49 - Final Thoughts
10:56 - Winner - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Nice comparison, I prefer my G70 3.3 AWD but the Acura is a nice offering. The Germans have a little more performance for sure but for the value, interior, good performance, and the fact people still don’t know what it is, the G70 is what earned my money.
How reliable has it been and what year and color combo do you have? I have a 23' G70 3.3T Sport Prestige with the Seville Silver exterior and Sevilla Nappa Red leather interior. I absolutely LOVE my car. I can't stop looking at it when I walk away. Just wish it was a litt more fuel efficient and easier to do maintenance on myself. Coming from a 16' Accord EX-L V6 Coupe, that thing was refined efficient and the easiest car to work on! Koreans make things a little more complicated. But still love my car and I get so many compliments and looks! So far it's been very reliable.
@@gabevillarreal4779 Mine is a 2020 3.3T AWD Prestige Vik Black Exterior and what ever the cream white interior color is. So far no issues at all and just under 29,000 miles. Fuel economy isn't great, my 6.4 Challenger TA did better on the highway even. I do love the overall performance and style of the car although I wish it would launch harder. Launch mode is really a joke as it doesn;t build any boost. I Just wish it had a little more trunk space and sometimes rear leg room. I have done regular oil changes and such myself but will bring it in for the 30,000 mile service since i think the clean the intake system or something for that.
@@ZacksRides YES I agree about it being a soft launcher. My guess is that it's for the purpose of durability. But once those turbos spool up it pulls like a mini freight train! It's faster than my accord v6 coupe but I did like the sound of the Honda's V-Tech V6 better! Smart move on the 30k induction service because turbocharging and direct injection are notorious for CARBON BUILD UP. I run BG44k Complete Fuel System cleaner in an empty tank then fill it up every summer before my trip to Texas and right at Christmas to help keep the carbon deposits at bay. Also I recommend that you use ONLY TOP TIER GASOLINE BRANDS AS THEY HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF DETERGENTS THAN NON TOP TIER BRANDS TO KEEP OUR FUEL SYSTEM CLEANER YEAR ROUND. IM AN EXXON MOBIL GUY ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY. CURRENTLY HAVE SHELL IN HER BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSE TO WORK AND AT 2.54 A GALLON! Also we will need new spark plugs at 60k which sucks but it's the direct injection deal that causes the quick demise of the factory plugs by way of fouled plugs due to carbon deposits.. I'm saving 20$ a month for that service now so I have t h e cash ready. I'm only at 12k right now. And I only do FULL SYNTHETIC 5W-30 Pennzoil Ultra with a Purilator BOSS or Wix oil filter RELIGIOUSLY EVERY 5,000 MILES WHICH IS TWICE A YEAR FOR ME. Once in the summer and once before Christmas. If you start extending the oil change intervals with forced induction and direct injection you are asking for trouble with leaking gaskets and sludge formation not to mention poorer fuel economy then the vehiclealready has. Enjoy your car! I for sure am!
@@gabevillarreal4779 I have a 22 G70 3.3T Sport Prestige, no problems other than the rear window trim having some fading issue which the dealer replaced free of charge (guess it was a widespread issue). I don't baby it at all, I have a heavy foot and so far everything is mechanically sound. I still get looks everywhere I go which is nice, people always compliment the car. In all I'm really happy with it, more so than the Mercedes C300 that I traded it for, surprisingly the interior of this Genesis feels more durable than my old Merc, far less plastic feel and just feels more luxurious.
@@gabevillarreal4779 the 3.3T lambda engine together with V8 4.6 and 5.0 are most reliable engines. If you go on genesis or stinger forums you won't see any catastrophic failures
Genesis really stepped up its game I love their design and powertrains ❤😊
I prefer Acura's aggressive front end but over all as a car G70 3.3T, they give you slightly more for the same price. There's nothing like it out there while Type S looks like beefed up version of every Acura I see on the road. G70 3.3t is also quicker and rwd biased.
Good look with Hyundai resale
@@Jwdude123 why would I need to sell my vehicle when I got the best deal there is. Now I owed $17K on it and I'm only at 23k miles. What vehicle can I find that will be this loaded with this much power with this many miles for this price, not to mention reliable 3.3t ENGINE? NO WHERE.
The TLX Type S is a stunning vehicle and I would love to own one someday.
Stay in school then ...
I'm surprised at how much positive press the TLX Type-S is getting after its refresh. I don't think Acura did much, if anything, outside of cosmetic updates and the new instrument screen so the driving experience hasn't really changed much from initial launch. Maybe at initial launch folks had different expectations of it to be more like a Type-R car, challenging directly to the Ms and AMGs. But now it seems more journalists are appreciating it for what it is, a tier below the all-out performance models and just a really solid sports sedan. And it looks amazing, especially in that new color. Not a fan of those copper wheels though especially since they add $2500 to the price LOL
As we said in the video, we were leaning G70 before we filmed but the results don’t lie! Our Senior Editor, Brett Evans, has driven the TLX Type S several times in the last few months and it’s definitely won him over.
@@Motor1 Yes, reinforcing my point that editors/journalists seem to be warming to what the Type-S is meant to be, not what everyone expected it to be at launch. Great video!
@senorgato70 they changed a lot. Grill and A emblem, digital gauges, HUD, 360 camera, a lot more sound insulation, wireless CarPlay, more advanced Acura watch, and a better sport+ tune and better transmission tuning that amount to it being faster per MT and C&D.
@@typesredline The only performance enhancement for the Type-S, which was my point, was better throttle response in Sport+. Sound insulation improvement was for A-Spec models only.
@@senorgato70 negative sir. The aspec exclusive sound insulation is acoustic glass in the front doors. However all models get thicker carpet, different fender liners, and more insulation in the A and B pillars.
And the sport+ throttle response wasn’t the only performance change. The sport+ transmission tune was also revised and together they improve 0-60 by .3 seconds and add 3 mph to the 1/4 mile trap speed.
Excellent comparison test, thank you!
I’ll pick the genesis but the Acura is a good looking car tho
I own both of them just trade in my TLX type s for the G70 . Don't get me wrong TLX is very good car but it's just not me the car handling very nice tuning nice computer did a lot of stuff the more I drive I getting boring you don't need much effort to drive I grow up in the Golden age era of JDM Toyota Supra Toyota MR2 Nissan 240 Nissan 300Z Mazda RX7 none of those car is easy to drive you need to put some time and effort to conquer the machine if you like me from that era the moment you jump on g70 you will full in love it brings back a lot of memory sometime I thought I driving a old BMW 3 series what a modern interior😂
That Julian drive is heavenly. When I was young and stupid, I used to push it up there in my Civic Si. In the winter. With snow and ice on the ground.
At night. 😬😬 So stupid lol. But that drive is really lovely.
Good review guys. Thanks
OMG ... never mind. I'll watch the film ... lol
The Acura SH AWD system is really good but I'll take the rear drive biased system any day.
Did a weathered 58 Peterbuilt started following you???
Great video! The sports sedan category is surely lacking choices these days. Sad about that.
I don’t own either . But when i recently rented a car on vacation in Florida. I recalled my nightmare owning a Cadillac. It broke down every other week. So often Cadi didn’t have loaners on non scheduled maintenance.. they had enterprise pick me up .
So on vacation I asked the rep what car manufacturer do you get an overflow of people here for loaners.
She said “ you wouldn’t believe it. Genesis.” I’m not knocking either brand . Im just quoting a rental companies cash cow .
Test drove both and liked the Genesis more. Felt lighter and faster and had a better dash layout. That said, I'd feel a lot better owning the Acura.
I would like to see genesis make an 'N' whatever the performance name for Genesis would be version of the G70, but from what i've seen and experienced the RWD version is better driving wise, it's lighter and you don't really notice the lack of AWD except maybe during launches and in places that have a real winter. Also I dislike the 2024 update for the G70, instead of updating the gauge cluster to a digital cluster like the G80 has had for a few years now, they updated the climate controls to a touch screen, which is a tragedy. Personally I do like a mixed gauge cluster, if it's done well, but the G70 is a bit boring there.
We're waiting on a performance division from Genesis too: Genesis M or Genesis O, anybody?
@@Motor1 They have a concept called the Genesis X
@@Motor1 the old genesis coupe/sedan had the R-Spec, so maybe bring that back?
Type-s feels special...despite the worse infotainment system ever designed. But its not the engine that is its letdown...its the 4200 lbs. It handles its weight well in terms of handling but 355 isn’t enough to move 4200 lbs if it wants to compete in this class. It's literally one ecu tune away fron what it should have been from day one. Acura should allow owners to get a factory tune for a fee.
Mines tuned and I concur.
Ive always been a Honda guy. Tlx type s is not impressive to me. It has a slow 0-60 for a price like that. I've never owned a hyundai/kia but I will admit the genesis has definitely got my attention not just the looks. I'd have no issue buying a g70.
Don't understand why Genesis doesn't offer fully digital instrument gauge for the USDM G70 which they provided since the pre face-lifted version in KDM
Though I like the Type-S, the G70 3.3T was and is my choice... I'm on my second. The G70 can also be tuned to have SIGNIFICANTLY more HP. The Type-S is pretty limited in tuning and the front differential can't handle much more power.
I have a 23 g70 3.3t. It reminds me of the old CLK55.
I have picked the IS500 and spouse has a Red Sport. I do like the G70 and Type S but didn't want a V6TT while there's a V8 available
Lexus = BORING
@@Yoomaro enjoy whatever you drive... I know I enjoy mine
Good choice with the IS500. Such as cool car. I went the other way and got the G70. I just found it to have more power down low for everyday driving and more features but still love the IS500.
@@SlipAngleG70 the G70 definitely has wayyy more features. To be honest, the steering and handling are more direct. I had a Stinger GT prior to the IS500.
@@timw2083 butttt that V8! The IS500 resale will be better as well.. I really like both cars. Can't go wrong. How do you like the 500 vs the Stinger?
Love both of these cars.
The question is, will the G 70 engine last my guess definitely not…
Well, keep guessing then ....
That 3.3T had been around for a while. It was used in the G90 and G80 sports. There are some with over 150 miles. I got one in a G90 with 75k miles not a single issue.
The 3.3T is bullet proof. Lots of them with 200K miles already and many are heavily tuned.
Surprised they didn't raise the power on the TLX, still the biggest flaw IMO is the front wheel bias.
It’s not front rear wheel bias though lol
@@Superdimensional it's 60:40, 60% going to fwd 40% to rear
@@Superdimensional 100% it is front wheel biased.
@@SlipAngleG70 Until you accelerate it is, but driving it you get neither the rear- bias push you would from a rwd or the pull of fwd. If you get on it in the rain, the rear will get sideways.
The Acura is a much better car in the corners, has better brakes, a better chassis, better suspension, is higher quality, and more fun to drive as a drivers car.
The G70 has a more snappy power train and I like some parts of the interior better like the quilted seats, but the Acura seats are also very nice. Overall I bought the type s. It was cheaper, looks way better, and is the perfect daily for me, plus I couldn't handle the sales team at Hyundai. Just really shady people to be trusting with a 57k purchase.
@@Mike-lt6sj Looks are subjective. I like both. The Acura pretends to be better handling but the reality is that it's heavy and 61/39 front biased, which eats front tires on the track. The front and rear are disconnected and SH-AWD hides these issues until you go past 8/10th and then the car just can't. The Type-S is more money in Canada. less features, slower, less warranty, has more issues (transfer case, dash creaks, evap system, puddle lights etc) My dealership has been outstanding with full concierege for 5 years, though admittedly many US dealers aren't great. RWD based cars are just way more fun and anyone who's had both would agree.
❤ the Acura 😂 tlx types I can tune it up
Add the cheap LAP3 1.5 tune kit to the Genesis for 100hp more and it's no comparison. Add a midpipe and own pipe exhaust and intakes and you're running 11 second 1/4 miles.The Genesis can be turned into a real thrilling sports sedan on a budget price.
Not everyone buy this for performance,the tlx is a much better daily driver.
@@alpe6228 I realize that. I just never liked Honda's or Acura's. Front wheel drive platforms suck. Since the transmission is in the engine compartment,they cost way more to service because the engine needs to be pulled. All the gears and clutches are much smaller,resulting inbeing weaker, more wear,less life expectancy.
And Honda/Acura designs are just not to my liking. They don't look good to me,especially this tlx,and the new integra. I've always like Infiniti. Rear wheel drive,no cv axles to service,drive shafts almost never ever break, and their designs look better than Acura's for sure,and some Lexus's. I like the fact that Genesis is rear wheel drive based,with awd options. It's like the older Infiniti's were,the new fwd Infiniti's I don't like. I'm an old guy,had lots of cars. Front wheel drive transmissions don't go over 160k miles often,without problems. I've had rear wheel drive cars that went over 230k miles,over 16 years,and never needed servicing. But those are my preferences.
The you void all your warrantys. Genesis gives you a 5 year electrical warranty and 10 year powertrain. Only thing I've done to my G70 is air intakes lol. I plan on keeping it for 10 years so don't wanna void anything
@@CyberSkunk90 You can pull the Lap 3 out easily, it's a plug and play chip. Just saying, if you don't feel comfortable don't do it, but OP is right, you will be doing high 3's 0-60 with a piggyback chip which is wild (look up videos of it).
@@alpe6228 Even the reviewers in this video said the G70 is a better daily.
How about lexus?
Can't go wrong with either car
That transverse mounted V6, tho, just doesn't sit well with the purist in me.
@pilfjd Well, reliability is the name of the game with these brands. So hopefully they wouldn't put a product out there that'll give people mechanical issues like that
@@Foreign84100% agreed, I'm sure the TLX is wonderful to drive and most people (including me) will not even feel any difference. It's just the purist in me which hopefully is a small percentage. Haha!
@@Foreign84 that's not really true with Genesis tho. Reliability is unknown since it's relatively new brand unlike Acura
@@i.d.6492 Same drivetrain as the Stinger, which is uber reliable.
I think if Genesis turned the G70 into a dedicated sports car, with the end goal giving the driver more of a sporty drive feel rather than luxury, it would be the best in its class for sure
I would take the type s. It is a true head turner
Type S 🔥
I absolutely love my Type S. I love all the positive feedback that’s it’s been getting with the new refresh. I’ve driven the curviest router in Ohio and it handled amazing the whole time!
I go with the acura any time any day
Well if they ever release g70 magma. Then do this test again.
I don't know how you pick front wheel architecture over rear wheel as your choice...I want my rear to scoot out a bit that's what makes it more fun to drive...put both on a track I think you would change your mind.
From the way you’re talking I can tell you have never experienced Acura SH-AWD the Genesis will get kill on a track vs the TLX type S cornering,track, and back road is where this car really shines….. on a straight line I will whole heartedly agree with you claim
Don’t be fooled by the way the motor sits, the SH-AWD can in fact put more power to the rear.
@@leonbaptiste2272 Meet me at the track with your SHAWD and I'll have my G70. The Type-S brakes can't handle one lap and the front tires give up shortly after due to the massive amount of weight on the front end.
If only Acura would pull their head out of their proverbial arse, and instead of spending money trying to convince the public that their cars are fast via marketing, actually make their cars fast, they could dominate the market.
Genesis ❤❤
The tlx type s finally won a comparo
This one was similar: czcams.com/video/8NQURBltSbY/video.htmlsi=BQyRpFF4aXGhm46C
Ignoring which side you are its actually David vs Goliath
So jealous of the new airbag cover the 2024 sport prestige models get. My 2023 G70 has this peice of crap looking plastic cover that brings the level of the interior down to near zero.. Drive me nuts.. Wasn't a deal breaker, but that new one got me super jealous.. New rims on the 2024 looks terrible imo
I'd somehow find it kinda crasy how moderators these days all over are talking things like '... 350hp aren't the most powerful...' and other stuff...😳😳😵💫
Hey yo guys, all over +200hp is a bunch of punsh today and the days before as well. The average hp lies between ~100 to 140/150hp - at least over here in Germany/Europe (seen globeally it
woudn't be more fore sure^^) and even with 90hp I'm able to beat out models like a Hellcat, 'Stangs and other high powered ones at ease depending on the 'drive/race/battle situation' - if you know
what I mean. :p Mostly, it's not about the amount of power someone has, it's about how that one can handle the power he has. The majority of 'drivers' who for example own one of the previously
mentioned ones didn't even know how the car behaves and reacts at peak points or 'redline' situations (I show you a bournout!! *squeek*, *pang*, *bang* and down he goes the drainage, like seen
in countless vids here on YT... xD) and/or are simply NOT able to handle (a) that car and the forces it's able to made AT ALL. :)
To the Acura and Genesis - Personally I like the Integra more (even it's not like the real one, the DC2 ITR, as he is now a sedan than a coupé) because I prefer the 'sporty type' but the G70 I think is the far better choise if you're about to drive long distances regularly or even if there are more than two persons in a household, so parants and kids, he would play a good role as the big-daddy-sedan. :D
Here we have Genesis, as the lux brand it is from Hyundai, too but they aren't really that popular or gettin' high numbers in sales like it is compared to the U.S. and not even mention
their homeland market South Korea. MB, BMW and Audi are still dominating the GER/EU market since decades and none of the new lux brands from asian car companys - if it is Lexus, Genesis or Infinity, who had left the whole EU market as the first of those competing brands completely, are making as NEARLY the sales numbers as our 'big three'. But smat ones, who are able to look over the
dishes edge know that f.ex. a Lexus LS500h can easiely beat a MB S-class in price and by far in longterm quality, durability and costs - and the LS if way more stylish as such a dusty Benz...😁😘
Same for the G70 compared to an E-class or so - the 'what you pay and what you get' ratio is mostly way more better in those 'underdogs' than in the 'every bodys darling' corner.
Big names don't mean big gain in every thing and every time. :P
Are you dumb or stupid??? English???
don't buy genesis. the quality of service is terrible. You are basically getting service from hyundai dealership, and if your area has a lot of hyundai cars, then your earliest available service appointment for service will be in 2 weeks, and even if you have genesis, the hyundai dealerships won't give you priority to service your vehicle. You are buying a luxury vehicle, but your service will be buying regular non-luxury car. And the quality of service is no different from hyundai. people are buying genesis due to cheaper price point compared to Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, but you will be getting the quality of hyundai service which is worse than Honda and Toyota. BTW I am Korean and own G70
Well, where I live, our Genesis stand alone dealership is perfectly fine.... Just move... LOL
So a better engine =more horsepower?
TLX TYPE S for ME! Acura Dealerships have been all great experiences and with how PRICEY all cars are getting! yes they FINALLY See a DAILY DRIVEN performance inspired SEDAN with an amazing AWD SYSTEM! that is not only capable but also RELIABLE and will hold it's VALUE. Also Acura maintenance is relatively much cheaper than any euro counterpart.
Not the last decade. The last decades, since the 90s. And Genesis is not on par with BMW, Bens, Audi, Lexus, or Acura. Genesis still uses typical Hyundai busted easily broken engines that Hyundai frequently denies to repair under warranty.
Wish genesis would throw some interior lights in there.
Seen guys in genesis forums adding interior lighting, looks dope
So an Acura vs a Hyundai. Easy win.
OOPS !! you mean Honda over Hyundai ???
You mean Buick vs Hyundai. Since acuras are not made or sold in Japan.
@@MikeForsythe LMAO... and the name of your planet is what again ?????? SMH
Honda vs. Hyundai
@@boredashell666666easy honda win.
Germans got lazy...especially on their designs... Korea and Japan are not playing..plus their cars are loaded with all the technology you can imagine.. lane departure, self parking, cameras, heated seats..steering wheel, air ride, very silent inside, tvs, GPS, Phone options etc etc.
😻 *Promo sm*
Should have been a g80
*have
completely different class. That car is massive
@@GoofieNewfie there's like a 2 inch difference in length
COMPARING AN ACURA WITH A GENESIS? LOL OF COURSE GENESIS.
Acura Honda resale superior.
That’s a myth . I looked at a 2023 TLX type S with 16,562 miles on it less than a year old, on trade in the value was $41,772 on a car that the person traded in the sticker was $56,795.00. Dealer turned around and is trying to sell it for $49,490with over 16,000 miles. That’s why I say it’s a myth that Acura always push that Acura’s have excellent resale value .Same old BS.💩pushed by Acura.
Germans are LUXURY sports cars, Genesis is Korean(!). Luxury and Korean cannot be used in the same sentence. Nobody buys a Casio watch over Rolex for 10,000$ just because Casio is lighter or has a calculator! people who spend top dollar for German sports car do care about the prestige and brand recognition that is associated with them, Genesis has none!
SMH....
@@bigden2755 change my mind with a rational and mature argument, I am listening
Ill take a Q50 RS
Ancient
That G70 is one ugly son of a gun, it looks like an old man’s car.
I think it took it's styling cues from the Chrysler 200
Nothing like the German cars...
You’re right higher maintenance cost, greater depreciation, less reliability, 10k+ for a similarly equipped vehicle
@@JayJay-he9bkur stuck in the past. 1. The b58 and s58 engines are widely renowned as the best engines being made right now. They have an extremely high reliability rating. 2. If u buy a bmw M car they don't depreciate nearly at all until after newer platforms are released which is every 5 years or so. Also 10k more.. well depending on the car u are correct but u get what u pay for. Better luxury, better tech, better perfromace.
@@user-my4xu4gf1zwhen I visit my local bmw dealer there are 5 series coming off leases asking 50% of the price when they were new…
100% correct...german brands suck...more hype than quality/reliability @@JayJay-he9bk
This whole review is literally saying it's almost like a bmw it's almost , almost, almost. Lol.
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Genesis anyday
Genesis G70. 🫶🏼😉 Look more sporty...!.😎