Clans of Culloden (& The Rising of 45") Pt1
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- Over a month later than i wanted but ive decided to split the battle into multiple videos due to the amount of families involved.
This is a video containing all* the Clans at Culloden or involved in the campaign.
All the Chiefs, lairds and tackman of the clans have been mapped to show you wherr they came from and just how spread out the support was as the myth is that it was just the Highlands that rose up.
* There may be families and clans missing of which i apologise i will continue to list them here and will make sure to mention them going forward.
*McLarens
*Boyd
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Thank you for identifying the Moirs. They're often forgotten or overlooked. What a proud moment to see that. And oddly both my sons are a James and William without even knowing that history when I named them! I was blown away as was my wife.
You are very welcome, i intend to cover every clan/family of Scotland and Ireland so i imagine the Moirs will pop up more often here, Strange how we come across these coincidences, im sure they do there namesakes very proud, the Moir have a great history and i look forward to sharing it with people.
@@Clans_Dynasties you are awesome. Thanks again! Look forward to your stuff!!
The MacGregor's the MacKinnon's and the Mackenzie's were fighting in the Battle of Littleferry in Sutherland the day before the Battle of Culloden, that's why most of whose three clans were missing from Culloden. Prince Charles Edward Stuart's personal piper at Culloden was a MacGregor. One must remember that Clan Gregor was still living under proscription in 1746, the proscription against Clan Gregor was finally repealed by King George III in 1774.
My ancestors were a sept of Farquharson. The history we were told is that there were brothers that were traveling to the battlefield but showed up too late as the fighting was already over. They were taken prisoner but soon released. Afterwards they made plans to travel to the New World.
Its great you have the family knowledge, many men didnt make the battle for many reasons either from being separated from the army during a failed night raid the night before or from fighting elsewhere, would they have made a difference, we will never know, although we must remember at the time the clans didnt see the defeat as anything significant, they had plans to form up and regroup.
@@Clans_Dynasties My granddad did his Masters in Edinburg and researched our lineage while he was there. We are notorious for procrastinating and arriving late to appointments. So we figured this was our family tradition showing through the ages.
Awesome family history!
Great video. I was pleased to see that my clan Innes was mentioned . I have been scouring the internet for information on the clan but have had no luck. Thanks
Great video. I do like how you added the Grants most people forget they fought on both sides. Me being descendent of the Grants of freuchie who fought with the prince.
Well he obviously forgot the Boyd's
Grant here, from America far as my family goes, our ancestors were forced in to slavery in the Caribbean some were then made it to Virginia and migrated north to Kentucky then to Michigan via my father.
We may have lost the battle, but we survive
I was pleased to see the Robertson's mentioned and the Patterson's at the end, too.
New subscriber from Spain here. Keep up with the great videos mate.
I’m related to the Drummond Clan and my husband is related to the Grant Clan during the rising of ‘45.
All the best from a Maclean 🏴
Great upload my friend ! Extremely enjoyed it.!
Thank you so much!!
I was born and raised in the central belt, lowland, Scotland and my dad said we might not be Scottish but actually from mainland Europe. I believed my whole life I was only 3 generations Scottish on my paternal side, I used to tell everyone that I was really not that Scottish but turns out it was actually a misunderstanding in the origin of his mother's last name, it was indeed Scottish last name. I can actually trace most of my paternal grandparents family back to the Highlands clearances and the Battle of Culloden. 😅🤣🤣
So after thinking I had some foreign blood in me, it turns out I am 100% Scottish on my father's side. LOL.
you say u where born in lowlands Scotland central belt ? i am Scottish from Glasgow , i imo think you are not from Scotland at all , no Scot would say from lowland central ,i would not ,just say Glasgow ,i am lost at this mainland Europe ??????????? if your father and mother were not all born here your not a full Scot dont tell from US?
As a Gordon I find this quite interesting.
I have studied this but not in depth.
My grandparents (Dads side) were from Aberdeenshire).
Thankyou for the info.
You sir, have got yourself a new subscriber!
Thank you so much, i really appreciate it.
Great Channel mate keep it up 🏴🏴
A clan you missed out in the mentions was MacInnes a very old clan which despite having no chief, fought on both sides.
This video is just of the clans whose chiefs fought at the battle,
although a handful of MacInnes did fight the army consisted of roughly 7000 men i couldn't name every one who fought in the battle, so in the mentions i only mentioned names if they appeared in large numbers, This is only a part 1 aswell so they may make an appearance in part 2.
very good production informative and balanced
Thank you very much!!!
Amazing info!
Very interesting,good on you mate
Great video, so glad I found your channel! Would you be willing to do a video on the Border families eventually?
Thank you so much!!, i do intend to cover all Clans/Families of Scotland and ireland, this may branch in to welsh and English names that had big impacts on these countries also.
Yes! This is amazing!
Thank you as always, i promised you a little something extra all those months ago, did you see whos banner is flying in the thumbnail😉 its only a small something.
@@Clans_Dynasties I did! Thank you it was great to see my clan represented!
Great vid would like if possible spin offs on the clans with enough known history of how they joined the different rebellions and major parts they played.👍
Thank you, my main goal for this channel is to cover all Irish and Scottish clans/families histories i do have some videos up already that will give you an indication of what to expect going forward, should you have a clan video request please feel free to ask and i shall add it to my list.
few mention the Farquharsons. I'm glad you did.
Another great video
Thank you so much 😁
I've been curious as to whether my families that fought at Culloden on one side, the mcleish of the clan of McPherson and on the other side McMurtry is in Stuart of brutt. Thank you so much for posting this video
My Grandfather is McClish(moms father) and I have info regarding his family being part of the MacPherson Clan Cluny. We have documents in our family site about them coming to America ( well my grandfather's line of descent ) He did speak of Ulster Scots in Northern Ireland from what he knew, and placing our first male McClish here in early 1700's possibly in Maryland , his first name is James , but still researching this , reading this and watching these videos , I always like to see the surname MacCliesh/McCliesh/ McClish many variants. My grandfathers McClish males line just as he was in the military ( U.S. Navy late 1930's) they were all in military of many branches as well. His parents were McClish/Merchant . To add a little more here on the many surnames I see many relations throughout most listed , with some a larger family connection then others . His McClish family is from Ohio/ Indiana. Love these youtube videos , very informative.
Great video. Thank you 👍 🏴🇦🇺
An Gordonach!
Some of my Wilson ancestors fought and died there. Such a tragic battle. Only wish this never happened.
You wouldn't be here if that was the case
Loving the videos! I know about about my Scottish heritage but it's nice to learn the interconnections between it and my Irish heritage too. Do you think you'd be willing to do a video on the Ulster Scots?
Thank you! And il be covering the Ulster Scots history for sure, im from Northern ireland its a big part of our history.
@@Clans_Dynasties just don’t make the mistake of saying they were the main immigrants who moved to America during the colonial era common mistake , many Irish were generals and high ranking officers in the American revolution like Timothy Murphy, John Sullivan etc
@Humphrey i will strive to make sure i represent both the Irish and Ulster-Scots in a fair and impartial way my aim is not to rewrite history.
@@Clans_Dynasties yeah definitely just a lot of myth surrounding the Scots Irish people
I just wanted to address the Scottish and Irish Roots When I asked my mother what is the difference between the Scots and the Irish she answered a wee bit of water sometimes
New subscriber from washington state. Thank you.
Thank you!!
12:05 Hello again from Clan MacLean! I had heard rumors that our family were famed warriors, but damn. Thank you for these videos!
You are very welcome, i hope to get a video out about them in the near future, Thank you for your support
This is a great presentation. Loved it. Being Canadian- is your accent Irish? I love it!!
I must add: my ancestors are Dr Archibald Cameron and his brother Donald Cameron of Locheil and of course… cluny. My great grandmother was a McPherson married to an O’Connor from Clare
Thank you very much, i post regular information about Clans on the facbook page should you wish to know more, Im from N.Ireland originally near a place called Banbridge although i live further north now, my great grandmother was also an O'Connor from Meath.
@@Clans_Dynasties I will look you up on Facebook! 😊
I my self is a Fraser of Lovat, my 3rd Great Grandfather came to America from Inverness Scotland in the late 1600's as well as a side note my Great Grandfather married my Full Blooded Cherokee Great Greandmother.
Hey you’re from outlander
thanks for posting spot on Mackenzies fought on both sides
Being from the MacDonalds, I can't bring myself to buy Campbell soup!
Seems to be more Scott's fighting on the government side, my clan fought on both sides. However the ones on the Princes side seemed to have been forced.
After this they went to the US or fought with the British. They were at Waterloo. Gordon's and Macdonalds
I looked up the Manchester debt (Jacobite) in Wikipedia and it was saying some of the regiment went to Culloden to operate their artillery
Yes, I have found some papers on it now. I'll be sure to add them to part 2. I apologise. I guess due to the small numbers, you may be correct in saying they are often forgotten.
As per yoosh, my 6 x great grand da Sir Robert Kirkpatrick gets the short end of the stick. The only member of the clan with the Balls to rise to the challenge and one who was beheaded for his trouble. Often overlooked, (not because he's headless) Sir Robert was the clans sacrificial recruit. As many clans would send a son to fight on the other side in case of failure as a way to secure their lands and holdings if the war was lost.
This video was just about the clan chiefs that rose up and a token mention of the clans and families that sent large numbers i do intend to do a part 2
@@Clans_Dynasties I never intended any actual criticism lol just bein a nerd and spreading the story. It's a fantastic video. 100%
Constructive criticism is always welcome, Well hopefully il be recording again soon and can help you spread any Family/Clan stories if you have any papers or books on for example the Kirkpatricks or Sir Robert Kirkpatrick, of Glenkiln please let me know.
Any information on the Scott clan at Culloden
We are travelling to Scotland late Oct-early Nov 2023. Interesting video. I have an ancestor Sir Francis Attebury that was involved in supporting the 1745 uprising. He was sent to the Tower then exiled to France where he died & was buried in Westminster Abbey (I saw his grave it was near the Unkown Warrior.}. Have you any info on him or know of him? Looking forward to your next video soon. Thanks, Paul
Can you do a video on Brian O'Niell's claim to the Irish High-Kingship in 1258 by any chance? On his rebbelion against the Anglo-Normans and who supported his claim as High-King.
Thanks and keep up the great work
Im currently working with another youtuber on a side project where we will delve more into Irish history the politics, the culture and the wars, so i imagine thw O'Neills will make a few appearances, Thank you for the support.
@@Clans_Dynasties Thanks 👍
Looking forward to more of your content nonetheless, much enjoyed so far.
Very interesting. What about clan Macfie of Colonsay?
Thank you!! Im sorry what is it specifically you are wondering about clan Macfie?
Love the video! I'm a MacBain myself so its its nice to see some inclusion
could you do some history on clan Urquhart? asking fir a friend....
I will he covering them, i intend to cover all clans/families aswell as all the major evens they were involved in.
Brother thank fuck were all here today to talk im a mcdonald dont know if im from the isles the coe or ulster but im a jacobite to this day i swear i would do what i could for my family friends and country
Were there known to be any of Clan Douglas/Douglass at Culloden? I can only find mention of “very few” from the clan at the battle, but no mention of whom was there nor why the clan was not represented in the cause, either on the behalf of the King or the Jacobites. Would also love for you to do a video specifically on Clan Douglas/Douglass as it is one of the oldest, most powerful and influential clans of Scotland. I enjoy reading about my ancestors connection to Robert the Bruce and would enjoy your take on it. :)
There were a handful but they were not supported by any chiefs or landed members of the clan, "No quarter given" by Allistar livingstone is one of the more complete muster rolls of the jacobite forces, i know there are Douglas members mentioned but as i said its only like 5 or 6. I do intend to do a full video on the clan its my hope to do all Irish and Scottish families i will cover major events including the Scottish war of independence and the battle of Bonnuckburn.
A lot of cla s and septs get no mention from earlier battles rendering some armigorous? Without chief and heir? I hope I remembered that well and haven't misinformed ye. There was a chief of a clan whose head head was blown off by cannonball at Culloden as he was ready to sound a charge leaving his clan stunned and uncertain what to decide .
Sorry for misspellings and repeated words my screen is cracked.. trying ma best
You've just earned yourself a new subscriber. Canadian here, I have an uncle with the surname McConnel, is there anything of note with that clan?
It's Irish.
It is Scottish and Irish depending on which branch you come from, being a branch of either the Scottish MacDonalds or Irish branchs which seems to have several unrelated families from Munster to Ulster. I will do a video on them though.
@@Clans_Dynasties That will be interesting.
Ye Jacobites by name, lend an ear, lend an ear,
Ye Jacobites by name, lend an ear,
Ye Jacobites by name,
Your fautes I will proclaim,
Your doctrines I must blame, you shall hear,
You shall hear,
Your doctrines I must blame, you shall hear.
What is Right, and What is Wrong, by the law, by the law?
What is Right and what is Wrong by the law?
What is Right, and what is Wrong?
A short sword, and a lang,
A weak arm and a strang, for to draw,
For to draw,
A weak arm and a strang, for to draw.
What makes heroic strife, famed afar, famed afar?
What makes heroic strife famed afar?
What makes heroic strife?
To whet th' assassin's knife,
Or haunt a Parent's life, wi' bloody war?
Bluidy war,
Or haunt a Parent's life, wi' bloody war?
Then let your schemes alone, in the state, in the state,
I let your schemes alone in the state.
I let your schemes alone,
Adore the rising sun,
And leave a man alone, to his fate,
To his fate,
And leave a man alone, to his fate.
Ye Jacobites by name, lend an ear, lend an ear,
Ye Jacobites by name, lend an ear,
Ye Jacobites by name,
Your fautes I will proclaim,
Your doctrines I must blame, you shall hear,
You shall hear,
Your doctrines I must blame, you shall hear.
can I ask my family have both Irish and Scots heritage and I wonder if we were involved in the uprising at all and on what side, my family name is McCann , and where about in Scotland were the McCann's were and how involved were the McCann's at the time , I know my immediate line is Irish but I trace a family link to Scotland in the 1745 rebellion. I just wondered if any one knows or have a rough idea.?
Good vid, didn't need the back ground music.
Does anyone know if McCall clan was there at cullodon
The McColl clan did attend in large numbers and they are mentioned here but the Chief of the clan either was not in attendance or did not hold the rank of an officer which is why they are just mentioned, i will be doing all the family histories eventually though.
@@Clans_Dynasties thank you very much appreciated 🏴
I'm trying to find some history of Clan Crow or Clan Crowe. All I have found is that we are part of Clan Ross. I know we had people from The Isle of Mann and have heard we had people from England, Ireland and Scotland. Thank you for any help. My natural father told us that we were Native American Indian and Irish, now that we are grown some of the family has used DNA and we turn out to not be Native American Indian we are traced back to Sir William Crow of the Isle of Mann and 38% Scottish with Irish and English blood as well. My stepfather adopted me and my name was changed from
Donald Randolph Crow to John Randolph Forsythe.
Both my natural and stepfather have been dead for years now and I'm 67 years old, I just want to know where my natural family blood line is from so I can know for sure and be proud of being Scottish, Irish, or English
Apologies for the late reply. I haven't been on here for a few days. The anglicised name of Crowe is found in Ireland and England, both of which have a long history with the Isle of Mann. You mentioned DNA, which I'm gathering is autosomal DNA? This will not tell you which line you descend from you would need to do FTDNA for a better understanding of your paternal line.
Can you do murray clan? Would love to hear what you have to say about my family.
I would love to cover the Murrays and i will, il hopefully get through all the clans/families of scotland and ireland.
Sweet cheers!
Murray 👋
McEanruig - Henderson of Glencoe - MacIain here
Did any of the Irish Clansmen participate?
Yes and no, No irish clans fought here, the clan system in Ireland had all but been eradicated, The very few irish Gaelic familes to still hold power (O'Briens ect) had abandoned the clan system, But there were Irish during the rising a regiment made up of irishmen in the government forces and another within the Jacobite forces, infact the Irish regiment (jacobite) are said to have impressed everyone as they "fell back in good order" basically allowing the rest of the army to retreat (they wernt the only ones, it wasnt seen as a retreat at the time more as a regroup) i will probably do a video on them soon after ive done the Government video.
The Gaelic Order wasn't ended at Kinsale, it was ended at Culloden!
The Forbes clan was a huge force in the jacobite revolution. Even though lord Duncan chose to fight for the government, he did it to save the clan from being disbanded when the government wins and also Culloden is and was on Forbes land, lord Duncan Forbes buried the fallen men there.
And how did that work out for the treacherous troll? Clan names, colours and even the pipes gone, outlawed not to mention the garrisoned English troops didn’t differentiate between any Scot well maybe not raping the Judas f#cks in the red coats. I hope everyone of them boils in a pit of tar till this very day in the special area of hell for turncoats.
Caisteal Folais'n a Theine!
I’m a dirceltly related to the oliphant clan… my mum and nan are oliphants
Mac an Tòisich!!! Lock Moy!!!
An excellent video! A few simplifications but it's not a one hour documentary after all.
Some pronunciations are incorrect, eg in Chattan, the 'ch' is pronounced in the Gaelic way, as in 'loch'.
The McDonnells and MacDonalds both consist of various branches of Clan Donald and are really the same name, , both spellings being English approximations (the forner one being a reversion closer to the Gaelic for BOTH names, MacDhòmhnuill or MacDhómhnuill - the accent changing historically and between Irish and Scots Gaelic).
Oh, and the Ogilvy or Ogilvie Regiment (two battalions) was a Lowland unit raised in Forfar in Angus, uniformed in specific red-based tartans (unlike Highland units which, in the Jacobite Army, were not uniforned - clan tartans being a myth!), and trained to fight in the European fashion.
The name is not O'GILvy or O'GILvie in pronunciation (it's not Irish, or even Scots Gaelic), but Ogilvy, from the 'Pictish' or early Welsh: 'Ugl ma', High place.
Oh, and 'Menzies' is pronounced 'Mengies', Mingies', or 'Meenies', depending on dialect.
There is no 'Z' in Scots or Scots Gaelic.
What looks like a 'z' in old Scots script is a 'g' which features alongside an 'n'.
Just saying 😉
Similarly, Dalziel is pronounced 'Daylyel'; Cockenzie is pronounced 'Cockinnie', and MacKenzie is more correctly 'MacKinnie' or 'MacKenny'......the Scots relatives of the Irish MacKennas!
Thank you for the comment, I am now thankfully incontact with many groups associated with these names due to some of them I had only read in books and never heard pronounced, or I had heard modern versions like Dalzell which here in N.Ireland is now pronounced exactly how it's spelt, I appreciate taking the time to correct them though thank you.
The often forgotten Manchester regt(Jacobite).
They never fought at culloden, which is why I never mentioned them, this video was just part 1 of a few videos I intended to do on the families that fought at the battle, I hope to redo and finish the parts again in the near future.
The last feudal army to assemble in Great Britain. Led by a half Polish Italian
You missed a few clans. There were members from each sept of clan Chattan including Davidson's
Hello this was a video of clan chiefs who attended the battle no Davidson chief/Laird or tackmans attended the battle that I could find in my sources, Although many Davidsons did fight which is why they are mentioned at 13:24, if you know of anymore clans that are not mentioned in this part 1 video or the notes please let me know and I will amend this on the part 2, Thank you.
@@Clans_Dynasties oh I did not realise you were focusing on chiefs, fair enough
It's ok don't worry PT2 will delve into more detail again and PT3 even further, they are little ways off yet but I am working on them.
Ah the Scots and their proud Irish ancestry. From the kingdom of Dal nAraidi to the shores of Pictia and its subsequent colonisation. No mention of the Campbells then - I think they fought at Culloden.
johnnewton2949....lol what irish ancestry?
When I took my b.b. coy. To glen clova for a week every April school holiday 30 boys the food the milk juice etc cleaning equipment etc filled a transit van , every few days more food etc , plus canteen lol how can I supply 4,000, to 8,000, for 3 months , plus horses and camp followers , it's impossible half the clans were probably starving it's so sad , no supermarkets in those days 😀 🏴🏴🏴🇫🇷🇨🇦🇺🇸
That's the Clannish way. The old way
No mention of Clan Macduff
This video was just about the clan chiefs that fought at the Battle although there is a Macduff mentioned at 13:14, please note this video is only a part 1 I'll hopefully get a part 2 done in the near future.
Bought and sold for English gold,such a parcel of rogues in an Nation.
Is possibly The. Oldest clans a part of The British Army . They retainGaelic Tongue . : " THE CAMERON HIGHLANDERS " .
Stewart, Murray & a John 'The Martyr" Nisbet (I didn't hear that name?), and what's the difference in the spelling of Macdonald & McDonald? I'm also a McDonald.
Thank you
Wasnt John Nesbit a converter in the late 17th century ? And there is no difference really its just how who ever recorded the names spelt it, some branchs drop the Mc altogether and some just place a M' its really just the clerk perogative at the time back then.
@@Clans_Dynasties I believe it started with Murdoch Nesbit who lived in Kyle, but was born in Newmilns in 1470.
His son was Alexander.
Alexander's son James.
James' son
John 'Jacobite Martyr'? who died in 1685.
His son's were Hugh, James & Alexander.
I think I got that straight. Thanks for all your info.
They were Convenanters?
John the matry Nesbit in killed in 1685 was a covenanter (i have no idea why i spelt it converter in the last message), That doesnt mean his entire family was many Scottish conflicts caused internal fractures in most families. You are very welcome for the reply, i always try to reply when i can.
Ogilvy Clan 12:27
Where were the McDougals?
The MacDougall clan chief didnt take part in the rising of 45* his brother did but this video was just about the clans whose chiefs joined the jacobite forces, a large number of macdougalls did join the jacobite forces, which is why they are mentioned in the list at the end of the video.
@@Clans_Dynasties thank you
Do you know if there were ever an Irish clan called Powell
I was always under the assumption Powell was Welsh and came across with Welsh soldiers and settlers to ireland in the 16th century, Although there is talk it could also be an anglicised version of MacGiollaphoil (Guilfoyle) from Offaly i believe, i havent researched that line yet though. But the Guilfoyle are on my rader so when i get round to them i will let you know if that theory stands.
Thanks
The McClean's come from an ancient decent of Ulster Royal line? Know where i can read up about it?
There are multiple open sources for the Macclean - Dalriada link but i use the book Clan Gillean, by Rev Maclean Sinclair from the national library of scotland as my main source there is a dowloadable PDF on google.
@@Clans_Dynasties thanks, I'll check that out👍
You forgot Clan MacInnis!
This video is just of the clans whose chiefs fought at the battle,
although a handful of MacInnes did fight the army consisted of roughly 7000 men i couldn't name every one who fought in the battle, This is only a part 1 aswell so they may make an appearance later.
It's history, it all happened a very long time ago, try attacking Fort George - NOT A CHANCE.
No criticism, you might want to read Murray Pittock’s book on Culloden
You do need to work on your pronunciation of some of the names as I had to listen twice.
Also Lord George …I’d do a bit more research there as many of the things surrounding him are being questioned today.
Just always bear in mind there are many many long standing myths on that battle and surrounding the Jacobites in full. Some grew from propaganda at the time and grew from there, some are 19th cent and early 20th cent inventions, You did point out many and dispel them which is good.
A time which is very complex and has many myths and untruths surrounding same.
Thank you very much for the comment, i really appreciate it, with regards to the names of some clans, il admit some of these names i had only ever read about and never heard or i had heard modern translations in countries like America where linguistic changes have changed the sound, although upon closer inspection these actually seem to be in the minority of cases, i am now in talks with mulitple societies so that this doesnt happen again, i will check out that book thank you for the suggestion, i do intend to do a video on the Clans/Families that fought for the Government forces hopefully this will give people enough information to either have an informed discussion on this sensitive subject or help dispel myths on both sides.
@@Clans_Dynasties sir you make a very very good and Highly important point ….The whole area surrounding Jacobitism and the battle at Culloden needs to be discussed and understood. It many ways the movement and the battle esp were pivotal points in not just the UK but to the whole world and that may sound very impertinent to say, esp as the battle lasted only around an hour or less, it did however.
There are so many myths that do need to be quashed and the actual events understood. The vid you say that you are considering is also important for many reasons.
In my own small way I try to help anyone like yourself that tries to put out content that tries to inform and not inflame.
Until recently when the period has started to be properly looked into and researched so many myths have become accepted fact.
The Clans, Jacobitism and Culloden mean so much to many esp over the seas that we need to get it right or as right as we can and also as research moves forward then have the guts to say things have changed as more comes to light.
Keep going sir
Slàinte mhòr
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Menzies is pronounced "MENG-is" without fully pronouncing the G.
it was a yogh. "Y" not a g.
The clan system was slavery in everything but name.
I find it interesting that most Scottish historians on CZcams keep referring to "government forces"... let's call it what it was.
It was the Brits.
I don't care if there were Welsh, English or Irish brigades, regiments, or sections, this was the Brits, plain and simple.
But, in the centuries following and the Act of Union, I can see softening of the language used.
It just all sounds so politically correct.
British means people from Britain, so that includes everyone from Cornwall to Caithness. The rising was in support of the pretender to the British crown.
Well... it wasn't though. 2 of the 3 cavalry brigades were Hanovarians. The government artillery was Hanovarian. Atleast 1 regiment of foot was from the low countries (probably Flemish) and that's not even mentioning the English or French units in the Jacobite army. After all the only reason the army marched to Derby was to gather English Jacobites.
And if you really wanna go into it then if the Jacobites won the war then 250 years later we would be talking about the British vs the Williamites. Dont act like the Jacobites weren't British as well.
The reason many historians refer to the 'Government' forces as such, is that it is more correct than 'British'.
After 1707 the Scottish (military) Establishment was disbanded and the Scottish regiments renamed as North British regiments, absorbed into the ENGLISH Army.
It was officially known as such until the 1850s.
This however was an administrative name because the army headquarters remained in the English Army offices at 'Horseguards' in London.
So as not to give the impression that the post-Union risings of 1708, 1715, 1719, & 1745 perpetuated the myth of Scotland versus England (despite being anti-Union risings as well as dynastic), historians often refer to 'Government' forces, although many refer retrospectively, and incorrectly, to 'British' forces when contemporaneously they were in fact refered to as English.
Btw, for the first 200 years of the Union, Scotland was officially known as North Britain, a neat way of denying our existence!
@@williammcdonald2349 Thank you for the detailed explanation. It very informative.
I see no mention of Clan Boyd! Never mind the fact that William 4th Earl of Kilmarnock was on Charles privy council, and a general who was captured and beheaded in the Tower after the battle. I have ancestors who fought at that battle. I suggest you re-read your history books laddie.
Not so much a lack of reading just an honest mistake, as you can see they are marked on the map at the beginning, Im more shocked at my wife who is a Boyd not picking it up, il be sure to put this right on the next video.
Roderick Macleod, 2nd of Cadboll,
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fought for Prince Charlie at Culloden in the Glengarry Regiment,
and was exiled afterwards,
though he made peace eventually.
My great-grandmother was a Macleod of Cadboll,
and although I was born in South Devon,
I only had to hear the skirl of the pipes
to raise my blood.
Had government not been screwing landed estates,
I would very likely have gone to Sandhurst,
for my youthful ambition was the Black Watch.
So sad to see Scotland
hamstrung by rabid marxists.
Though England is little better.
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Enjoyed your video..but I remember when I was at school 50 years ago I had a teacher from the Highlands , a Mrs Menzies..but she taught us immediately that her name in not pronounced Men-zies ! You are meant to pronounce it...Ming us...I've checked it out since and it is correct ..same with Alba the Gaelic name for Scotland..Alba is the Scottish Gaelic word for Scotland, however you don't say it the way it is written.
Instead it is pronounced 'Al-a-buh'.
I unfortunately fell for the anglisiced trap that is common in Irish and Scottish spelling and translation, names like Dalzell which have now dropped the orignal use of the scottish sound (yogh) i assumed Menzies had done the same. I will not make this mistake again 🤣 thank you, im glad you at least enjoyed the video.
Literally can't make out a word you said with the music blaring over your voice.. I'm sure it's very informative but you should redo the video, quieter music, louder clearer voice or Jesus add subtitles
Yes this is one of the videos that i uploaded before i figured out some of the basics to sound editing (im still learning) i always thought i had subtitles enabled but i shall double check, Thank you for the feedback i really do appreciate it when people take the time to comment so i can improve the experience for everyone else.
Background music is too loud. Find it quite distracting. It's also really cheesy. Would be more professional not to have it at all.