Nissan SR20DET - What makes it GREAT? ICONIC ENGINES #9
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The SR20DET engine started it's life with an engine orientation many would call uncharacteristic. The first car that had an SR20DET in its engine bay was the 1989 Nissan Bluebird 2000 SSS. Here the SR20 turbo was placed transversely. Next year, more transverse engine placements followed with the Pulsar GTI-R and the Sunny GTI-R. These were special homologation versions with AWD and ITBs on the SR20 from the factory. Truly awesome little cars, but they were produced in pretty limited numbers.
It wasn't until 1991 that the SR20 came in the engine placement and setup that we all know and love. In 1991 it appeared longitudinally mounted in the now legendary Nissan 180SX and the S13 Silvia. It stayed with the S-chassis through it's subsequent generations in the S14 Silvia and the European market 200SX, all until the sad end of the S-chassis in 2002. The year when Nissan was left without an entry level sports car, something that all enthusiasts believe Nissan needs again. Bring back the S-chassis Nissan, it was awesome.
The SR20DET appeared in other less famous, but still pretty fun Nissan cars like the Avenir, the Liberty and the R'nessa. None of which were global models unfortunately.
So what makes the SR20DET engine iconic? Is it the tech? The reliability? The power output? Well it's all of that and none of that. Nissan made a good engine with the SR20DET, but just how good it is was revealed only by the car enthusiast community.
To understand this, we have have to understand something very basic and that's that at its core drifting is abuse. Yes, it's a beautiful motor sport today, that requires immense skills, craftsmanship and talent, but from a purely mechanical perspective it's abuse. An engine in a drifting car gets exposed to a tremendous amount of abuse. It's basically bounced off the rev limiter continuously at relatively low speeds that don't allow the engine to cool off. An engine that can put up with drifting and not complain is amazing any way you look at it. The SR20DET put up with drifting and drifters for decades! And even today, a Nissan S-chassis with and SR20DET in it is still the easiest way to enter the world of drifting. This was especially true in the early days, when the 180SX and Silvia S13 had from the factory something that the AE86 didn't. Power and turbo torque. You didn't need to extensively modify an 180SX to drift with it. It was pretty much ready to go from the factory.
When it comes to the specs the SR20DET is a square design with 86 mm of bore and 86 mm stroke. It's an all aluminum design with a closed deck aluminum alloy block and DOHC cylinder heads. Stock SR20DET pistons are cast, but feature a thermal coating on the top. The cylinder head has pent roof combustion chambers with both cam gears driven by a single roller timing chain. The intake valve diameter is pretty nice at 34.15 mm. The exhaust valve diameter of the SR20DET is 30.15 mm. Earlier engines that did not have variable cam timing on the intake had high angle intake ports cast into the cylinder head. These have some pretty good flow characteristics. Later engines with VTC have a more conventional intake port design. Valves are actuated via y-shaped low friction rocker arms and feature hydraulic maintenance-free hydraulic lifters.
Simple stage 1 budget friendly tuning of the SR20DET usually consists of upgrading the downpipe, the exhaust, maybe a cold air intake and increasing the boost a bit. Most stock SR20DET run at 7 psi of boost. You can increase this to 12 psi until you reach the limits of a mostly stock setup. "Safe" power levels of the SR20DET with stock internals are at around 400 hp. This assumes a good tune and knock monitoring.
To get to 400 hp you will need to invest into more serious items like a front mount inter-cooler, upgrade the fuel pump and the injectors and likely upgrade the turbo. The Garret 2871R is a common and pretty good choice.
If you want to go well above 400 hp you will need to reinforce the SR20DET internals with some forged pistons and rods. Re-sleeving the block might also be a good idea because it enables you to increase the bore to as much as 90 mm, bringing the the SR20DET very close to 2.2 liters, or even more if you invest in a stroker kit. With these upgrades, SR20DET builds of well over 1000 horse power become a reality.
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Hey, Please do a video on the Nissan A14s!
Hi, I'm Jarred from Cape Town South Africa. Is it possible for you to make a video on the Mazda 323 GTX FE 2.0 16v turbo please?
H22 review
sorry to be offtopic but does someone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account??
I was stupid forgot the account password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.
@Alden Leo Instablaster ;)
A great follow up to this would be a video about its predecesor that you mentioned the CA18DET
Back in the 90's and early 2000's EVERYONE was swapping OUT the ka24de for the SR20DET ... I stayed with the ka24de, built it and turbo charged it. Got it to 482 whp and 455 wtq in 2001. Ran 11.1 @ 123 mph ... She impressed all but yet everyone still wanted that tiny SR20 ... I guess they didn't want to do all the hard work.
She is still in my garage running STRONG 20 yrs later on the same ka motor. Parked next to my MKIV Supra.
Funny when i take it to the car meets and pop the hood, they are like, oh you went ka turbo, i said yea, they asked how long has it been turbo, i say 20 yrs now and they look at me with that look of .... 20 yrs are you serious ...
I was like yep, got the car in 2000, pulled the engine in 2001, built it for 600 hp and she has been this way since.
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Voce fala muito cara. Por que você não mostra esse motor rodando?
@@marydudaduda7355🤦
going on over 10 years (trouble free) on my lightly moded daily driven sr20det , the day will come when i will crack it open inspect it and rebuild it
Where are you from
Good luck with that man
I’m on approximately 8 years trouble free
Couple of notes and interesting facts:
Camshaft durations and lift vary from 232 to 248 depending on the variation. S14 Nothctop had t28 non bb garrett turbo, not t25. Pushing stock internals to 400whp is possible, but 320-370whp is a more realistic number. On stock t25 (@~12 psi) and very minor bolt-ons you can get solid 240-250whp. Also, rockers and lifters really hate being bounced off the limiter, hence why SR is kinda known for being unreliable. Some people say rocker arms stoppers are great and some say they destroy the heads so here's that.
The ultimate SR20DET upgrade is P11 NEO VVL head swap. They flow better and are pretty much bulletproof with a few bolt-ons. Yes it is a very expensive mod, but it really transforms SR20DET into an indestructible beast.
Some people prefer to keep stock high port (blacktop and redtop) mani for better low-end torque.
Alternators and water pumps are kinda known to go out.
SRs and other 90s nissan engines LOVE 15w40 diesel oils.
Stock crank can handle up to 1400hp with good balancing.
A faulty water temp sensor will make the ECU go into the limp mode and won't rev past 2500rpm.
s13.4 Notchtop/Redtop hybrid valve cover is an odd mod but if you have a S13 SR, and you have an oil catch can… you’ve probably seen your catch can fill up before the day is even over. This is due to no internal baffling in the S13 SR valve cover. S14 SR valve cover does have internal baffling, which prevents all of the oil to just end up in the catch can.
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1996 sr20det
Still a nissan ssdly
S14 Sr20det came with a T28 only in the late model kouki. The Zenki version still came with t25
@@joesarna9154 i have a euro spec 200sx zenki and it does have a journal bearing T28, the jap spec s14 came with the bb T28
Made 462whp on mine, completely (second motor, why is below) stock motor other than C16 fuel, GT35R, 72lb injectors, Cobra MAF, JWT S4 cams and a monster oil cooler ran by an electric pump. Lasted a couple of seasons doing time attack events. Rev limiter at 7750rpm on the JWT ECU.
Rocker stoppers keep the valves moving during float so you can get piston to valve contact. Better to huck them out. Had a friend money shift mine 4th at redline to second. Put a new chain and rocker arms in it and ran it until I blew it up playing with the dial-a-boom (25psi isn’t tolerated, lol).
Motor is still kicking today, but sadly I haven’t registered the car in years. Someday… :)
One of my favorite engines. Closed deck aluminum with a timing chain, solid internals stock, what's not to like? Great videos man!
yes, my favourite part is the rocker arms. very good
Me and my friends have swapped them into old mercedes 190e couple of times. Reliable and cost effective way to get 200-300hp 4 door, that doesn't weigh that much and with suspension upgrades, can deliver suprisingly great performance.
@@TheSpekkel1 That's pretty awesome! Not a swap I would expect.
@@802Garage 190e is a great platform, but the standard models had pretty anemic engines and the sportier models are too expensive, so I think it's a great swap to go from an iron block 1.8l 8v, into sr20det with all the aftermarket it has, which the mercedes engines lack unfortunately.
@@TheSpekkel1 Makes sense to me!
Been pumping out some great content man
The believe you can do it part had me cracking up, those little funny short clips are really good
Love your channel! You've made me dig into my favourite book again, Performance automotive engine math by John Baechtel. Although judging by your content, you've probably written a book just like it. It's a great resource for understanding engines properly. Keep up the awesome content!
Lol ricer Miata has been running between 23 and 30 psi on his stock SR for years and he beats the ever living hell out of it 😂 so those SR's might be indestructible
Really good stuff man! These videos are killin' it.
Thanks for bringing us yet another vibe 🥂 enjoyed
the amount of research you do is crazy and i appreciate it
You're great bruh! Keep 'em videos coming...
Thank u so much I was looking for a video about the sr20det u rock bro🤯🙏🤘😌😌
After so long i finally got an Sr20de. This video really inspired this soon to be build
Hey man, You got me bro. Subscribed! I first saw and commented on Your MR2 videos since thats the car that really inspired me to love more then just v8's. As far as the SR20DET goes I bought a 95 240 that had a sr20det swap and was already all done up..I did have to put in a new built 5 speed and 2 weeks after I had it finished (car was perfect!!) an old lady totalled it in the WALMART parking lot 😕😕 Man Ive been bummed ever since..Insurance screwed me and only gave me book value.
Anyways. YesSSS NISSAN PLEASE GIVE US AN ENTRY LEVEL REAR WHEEL DRIVE S-CHASSIS-LIKE CAR AGAIN!!!!!
Amazing video as usual🙏🙏🙏
Nice video man! Subscribed
Great video as usual cheers
Great videos my man!
Here in the US our all-powerful insurance industry and trial-lawyer lobbies got involved, and we got the 240SX which basically had a 12-valve SOHC truck engine - felt fast off the line but petered out rapidly as revs rose. Great handling car which needed about 75-100 more bhp.
Apart from the lawyers, one reason US-market cars have lower compression ratios is due to our generally crappy fuels, ethanol blends, &c. And to think that us Yanks invented 110-octane gas. Sigh....
Great episode!
Hey man, no questions for today so have a great one dude!
I saw that avatar of yours and started panicking. But then! Relief! Sweet, sweet, relief. What will I do with all this newly gained free time? A quiet evening? A light dinner? Maybe even a book? Oh no.... I'm getting greedy.
driving 4 answers 😂😂😂
Love the vids man, keep them up!
I cant see the link to the hi res Table anywhere?
Great video, would love to see video on the ca18det!
Great video, I love this.
Can you cover the Scandinavian iconic motor, the Volvo red block like b230fk? 😁
Great video !
Pulsar gtir. Weapon from the gods. Baby Godzilla. Such an insane beast.
Rather have an evo to be honest
If you haven't done so, maybe a video explaining the VQ35DE or VQ Family Nissan Engines. Thanks for the great informative videos!!
Anyone else noticing their utube "recommended" tab is now full of the previous weeks featured engine? 50K followers is like the moon pulling a high tide of interesting car stuff along with it.
Factory boost level for the redtop/blacktop motors was 12psi that was gated back to roughly 7psi in higher RPMs by a vacuum controlled boost solenoid. when the boost solenoid is removed, the spring on the T25s wastegate is only rated to 7psi.
Iv actually seen sr20s online with about a 1000 horsepower but they are actually very rare engine so good luck finding one of those things man
Heres a street driven one with 1400hp czcams.com/video/1eG6HDET4Fo/video.html
Great video BuD.thank u!!!
Just noticed this in my feed and was pleasantly surprised seeing the now infamous Streeter street session footage
Thanks for this video...helped alot
Again great video.
I personal like longer videos
Very good idea to show a AEM product in details for advertisment.
Still asking for the Ford Pinto, Zetec S and the Duratec/MZR.
Have a good time
Thank you! Mzr will be covered definitely, can't tell yet when but it gets requested occasionally.
nice video bro
I had a '91 240SX in 1998 when I was 16, I remember scouring the early internet dreaming of buying and swapping an SR20 into it
ive got a SR2DE in my 1996 Nissan Primera P11 SRI, great engines!
Awesome video! I've had 6 cars with this engine: P11, 2 x P11-144, S14 and 2 x S15. I know it well and it's very easiy to tune. A totally stripped out S15 running 300whp is crazy fast and bloody scary. I think we got my last one down to around 900Kg.
P11? Infiniti?
Primera 💪 still miss my GT Mystic
Great elaborated information!
He he, you are funny. I always have a smile on my face when you rap.
Do long iconic engine on the rb26dett and 1jz/2jzgte and your channel will will blow up the internet
Great little engines
lovly video... need to talk about SR20VE...
the s-sexy had me so good hahaha didn't see that one coming
Great video man, thanks for all the good info. I was wondering if you or anybody could help me identify what kind of front bumper is in the green S14 (14:53 minutes)
Good job even listening to you relaxes me a bit. No weird stuff lol.
Make a rotary video... love your videos
I had two 200SX S14a 15 years ago.... wish I had kept hold of them!
Great video ! But i'm pretty sure the sr20 has nicasil coating instead of steel liners
#bringbacktheschassis
Haha that’s awesome you used a pic of my car for the end of s15.
Can you do a video on the mivec evo x engine plzz
Can you please do Nissan RB 20 25 and 26 series as well
Does anyone know the color code of the sr engine family and the flow rate? Need to upgrade
You should make a video of all the sr20 variants. This video is only based on the rwd sr20det. The DET is outdated (but still good) there's an sr20VET which is the latest entry in the sr20 engines.
Can you please do a detailed video on the sr20vet?
For the most part yea, this engine is a monster and reliable. People who complain they blow up just do not do any maintenance they require. Really the only thing wrong is they do not like bouncing off rev limiter hard because of rocker arms tendency to want to fly. But my SR20DE(T) is still kicking along, still the original bottom end DE from 91 pushing 15psi of boost.
Hey there bud you should definitely do a video on VQ35DE
This video is on the Turbo Sr does that mean we’ll get one for the N/A Sr20de?
Nice video. To bad you didn't catch the whole SR range though.
SR20DE, SR20VE, SR16VE, etc.
Car: ’05 Nissan Silvia S15
Engine: SR20
Driver: Muhammed Ali allahu akbar
1/4 Best ET: 6.228 @ 226.81 MPH
Track: Orlando Speed World
Date: Oct 27, 2018
Status: Active
The driver of this Nissan S15 is Muhammad Ali, and his ride is the quickest and fastest SR20-powered ride on the planet. He has some badass people helping him make things happen and he does a great job behind the wheel as well. MazWorx built and tuned the chassis to the SR20, which cranked out over 1,800 horsepower on the dyno at 60 pounds of boost. Legendary tuning guru Shane Tecklenburg handles the tuning of the car and you can tell it’s got his stamp all over it, running both ridiculously quick and consistent, which shows the tune is near perfect and they aren’t just taking stabs at the parameters to see what works. Anybody who knows anything about Shane T knows his rides are consistently quick like this and shatter records regularly, proof that he’s the man in the tuning world.
The numbers the car puts up at almost perfectly on par with NHRA Pro Stock, allowing me the opportunity to make a comparison between the drastically different combinations. Pro Stock rules, as most of you know, mandate naturally aspirated powerplants, while this SR20 is crammed with almost 70 pounds of boost at speed on the track. Of course, it has half of the cylinders of the 500 CID V8 under the hood of a Pro Stocker, which makes around 1,500 horsepower.
So how does the Pro Stocker run the same ET with less horsepower? The answer is contained within the interview with Mark from MazWorx, who talks about the chassis. See if you guys can determine the difference and let us know what you think.
agreed! less talking about drifting and more talking about the varieties of SR family.
A vw beetle type1 engine has run the 1/4 in 6s at over 220mph.
Oh, and it was n/a.
Just food for thought.
What about the sr20 vet...didnt hear any mentions on it or did i miss it ??? ??????
Can you feature the Rover K-series engine, and also mention any Japanese or European engines that also featured the ladder frame main bearing carrier design?
You should do Iconic engines with small engines like briggs and Stratton Predator engines and how they changed go carting
What’s the max boost/hp you can put down on a stock s14 SR20
What HKS turbo is that from video screenshot?
where did you get the last video clip that you played with the white s13?
I credited the video uploader on CZcams. Nintando. You'll easily find it.
great video man
i instal a sr20de what i need to turbo this engine. thanks
I took a shot every time I heard the word iconic... I got much drunk.
How about the LT5 DOHC 5.7L V8 from the 1990-1995 Corvette ZR1 which was designed by Lotus and built by Mercury Marine?
While understanding the Nissan SR was developed to replace the earlier CA engine, does anyone know to what extent if any they are related to each other or whether the SR engine features any common characteristics with the CA?
Haha I think @stephaniedrifts would disagree with you on the 4A-GE. Enjoyed the video :)
3rd. Love the sr20
GTI-R version has solid lifters
I can’t imagine how sick it would’ve been if the 91 Sentra SE-R had received an SR20-DET instead of merely getting the SR20DE. It was still a great car, but with the turbo version it would’ve been awe-inspiring, especially in the early 90’s.
Please do 1JZ or JZ series!
Finalllllyyy!!!!!
The last y most powerful evolution was the sr20vet 8h6 equipped in the Xtrail GT. 300 hp from factory and Neovvl system (Nissan’s equivalent of Honda’s VTEC)
I bought my s14a 7 years ago and still running same engine and box I bought it with, had a lot of drifting abuse for the past 5/6 years but if you look after them (like anything really) they can last a long time!
Do you prefer longer Iconic Engines videos or shorter more condensed ones like this one?
Edit: Noted! We are staying with the longer format.
I like the longer ones that you've done previously because of the detail.of the engine. However I'm sure there's only a small part of your audience that cares about exhaust and intake valve sizes and bore dimensions etc. However, I prefer it.
You could skip somethings like level one mods etc. As we all know what those are. However, things like generally safe horsepower before replacing with forged interns great info that most people are too lazy to scour the internet for. Hopefully, this will help with all the "how much horsepower can I get on a stock block?" Forum posts...ofc I might be too optimistic lol
I like these long ones
I like the longer ones better since it gives more information than i could read in 2 minutes or so on wikipedia, this video is just the bare minimum information about it.
Longer ones.
Longerr
Can you Review the 13b Rotary engine and compare it to the Sr20det like what's the best engine between this two in drifting of hill climbing
13b is getting a video next Sunday
What’s a good average price on a sr20 engine? I’m not sure but I also heard of an s14 sr20 engine as well. Im looking into good engines to put into a Datsun s30.
lucky if you can find one under 5 grand
Ditch the rap session man. Really loved the video though.
Ar you sure sr20det have 200 to 247 stock and how much torque stock? I have nissan pathfinder can I swap my engin to sr20det
Do you think give me the strength and the required drag in the sand?
U have to make an engine review for H22...
Overheats
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Sr20det is an ok engine love nissan jdm engines had my best luck from the rb20/25det engines tho.
Great content! I own a stock unicorn s13 in pristine condition. Don’t plan on drifting it! No bolts or screws on the body either!
I have a stock S14 Kouki Unicorn
. Lol
that chart has some wrong info from what I can see on the s14+s15 specs.
May you please do a Ford Barra or a jeep/amc 4.0(242) straight sixes?
Could you do the Ej series next?
Ej20 is coming very soon
Would love to hear what you have to say about Nissan’s VQ series of engines.
VQ is coming too
@@d4a how soon
May, I sugest that for the next iconic engine we vote for it.
You can simply give us a few choices, create a poll on YT and we vote.
How does that sound?
I did that once. That's the order I based my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th videos on. I might do it again, we'll see.
Polls suck
Can you please do a video on the ca18det.
ah, he is not reading these comments ...
Hi. Can u please cover VW's Vr6. 2.8, 3.2, 3.6
It was weird hearing you didn't talk about the fact that sr is a very top end engine and one of the main upgrades to actually drift it is a clutch because you going to use it a lot. Also, shame, you didn't mention the only person who still uses sr in pro drift successfully.
Tonnes of people still use sr , who cares about pro!
I just bought a car from mainland that is pretty rare to find and it has a sr20det neo vvl slapped into it. It’s a Nissan x trail GT 2001 and I’ve been trying to find pets for it but never seem to find any
Please do 1.8t/ EA888 next
What about the vq motors??