Like, they never were. Healthy middle weight women are called ugly 100x more than underweight women. The ideal has always been "Unhealthy but make it sexy." I've always been naturally skinny but once I lost 10 pounds from stress, I became dangerously underweight (I was exactly Twiggy's weight/height) I realized it was the only time in my life I could be a model because it's not natural for most women to have flat stomachs unless they are dehydrated...and I've never been overweight, just carried weight in my hips. By that standard I was my most beautiful but I felt awful. (And for people who are naturally 10-20 lbs over the "healthy" weight they're constantly dieting to lose that which is bad for them. Some people just carry weight and it's good for them. It doesn't surprise me they did a longitudinal study that slightly overweight people have the longest lives, even above "ideal" BMI! And being underweight cuts way more years off your life, it's actually scary, on average 10-20 years(it's 25 years if you had anorexia) vs 4.5 years for overweight people but anyway that's just me getting the word out that what we deem beautiful (thinness vs fatness) has nothing to do with real beauty & everything to do with effed up ideals.
@@samaraisnt I'm sorry, I obviously don't want to question your personal experience, but what you say there is just inaccurate. For one, dangerously skinny women being considered the height of beauty simply wasn't a thing for most of history and in most cultures, and most men today aren't more attracted to them either. It's an industry that tells us these things today, but reapplying this example to the past doesn't fly. Of course, there were dangerous beauty ideals, I don't deny that. But saying the ideal would have always been identical to or notably and largely overlapped with being unhealthy is taking it a step too far. What's so unhealthy about "medium sized breasts" or "high forehead" or "blonde hair" or "bright lips"? Yes, there are lotos feet and lip plates and all that. But claiming "the ideal has always been unhealthy..." is simply false.
There's no shame in it, John. You can admit, that you mostly started this channel, so you'd have your own CZcams account. One that doesn't need to be shared with your pelican-watching brother.
I appreciate any and all things John and his brother Hank do. They are the light in this dark dark social media world. John, no pressure, everything you do no matter how small has a huge impact on so many. I wish I had a fraction of your forethought, comprehension and compassion.
Even though - even though what? I need to know more about the ways in which Consumption Chic prefigured Heroin Chic and Orthorexia Chic and other really unhealthy ways in which society has encouraged healthy people to pursue un-health in the name of beauty! (Also, I would like to know how you would rate Consumption on a scale of 1 to 5 stars, if you have not already done so.)
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too) I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD "The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
2 billion people have it. I know a lady, a math teacher from India, who developed a knot of TB on her spine. Initially her Dr in the US assumed it was cancer. They cut it out and she needs antibiotics for a year. All the best to her for recovery.
@@k8eekatt It's certainly a dreadful disease, and I can only hope that the world can pull together to stamp it out, as they did with smallpox in the 1970s.
It's fascinating, scary, and horrible, the way our beauty standards seem to revolve around disease and death and general unwellness. In a way, it's almost a disease itself, the way it attacks people who would otherwise be healthy and pressurizes them to comply.
and this(your comment) is a lot about health aspect, *But* in teens looking at social media and comparing their looks and I see shein advertisements (&huge amount of Instagram shopping section) and my classmates outfits all h&m, etc. Overconsumption of poor quality and Materialism in TEENS and absorbed in their time comparing themselves and hobbies on making outfits, shopping, etc for Aestheticness on SOCIAL MEDIA, and there's a lot of videos on it like teenager fashion channels who are Popular, this is just what I clearly see in 9th grade
Yeah, I mean a lot of our current beauty standards revolve around skinniness at any cost and it is not healthy. I saw a video the other day of a woman who lost 75 lbs in 2 months, which is WAY too fast and very dangerous, and everyone in the comments was like "don't worry that your hair is falling out, you're so beautiful in so many other ways!" They were just so excited for her "success" even though she was showing signs of malnutrition. It was very concerning. There's another video where a different woman is going into the details of how she's really sick but doctors don't know what's wrong with her, and she's lost a ton of weight and might be dying, but then says "but guess who's gonna be wearing a bikini at the beach this summer! ...if I feel well enough to go..."
Oh shite, i figured out what the even though continues to yall; its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD Heres the full sentence as it wud sound if looped "The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
One would think that because I follow all things Green on all platforms, and immediately follow new ones as I find out about them, that YT would have noticed I jump on whatever you and Hank post, but nooooooooo. Thank you for mentioning this channel in today's vlogbrothers.
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too) I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD "The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
The algorithm blessing me with more tuberculosis content from John after Ive watched every single new CZcams Short he’s released about it. You can never escape TB
Even though what! 😂I guess I'm now an old person shouting at clouds about how Tik Tok has ruined the ability to complete a sentence. Jokes notwithstanding, I'm super glad to have finally found this no-longer-semi-secret channel!
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too) I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD "The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
@@nemoforvermore8085 It took me a bit to figure it out and id complained about the even though part as well xD Then it hit me that "oh yea, looping shorts is a thing"
I always think of that line from Heavenly Creatures, when Kate Winslet's character says, "All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases." Funny how we humans glamorize such a terrible illness, maybe out of desperation, or trying to look on the bright side? We are weird. Love these little bits of art & literature history mentioned here. I've had a twisted fascination with TB ever since being exposed to it when living in Japan in the 1990s (it's unfortunately still fairly commonly spread in Asia). Hooray for antibiotics (when used properly)
Desperation, sure, like how mental illness can be romanticized today. It's utterly terrifying and there isn't a lot we can do about it yet, so best to romanticize it.
I know this is a minor thing, and ya dont have to do it if ya dont feel like it after all, but as this is nerdfighteria we are in; im gonna bring it up. The word binge has some negative, and sometimes triggerin, associations in some folks minds. Both those who have had eatin disorders characterised usin that word and also for those who have found themselves drinking in a way characterised usin that word. Instd of "binge watching" or "binging", i myself, as someone who deals with alcoholism, prefer to use or see the word "marathon" or any similar term. It also feels better to me bcuz it doesnt characterise the activity of watchin somethin in one sitting as inherently negative in the same way the word binge does.
Thank you for sharing your not-so-secret-anymore channel with the masses, John! Signed, a busy mother-of-two millennial who finds herself with little time to surf CZcams (thus finding content organically) but appreciates your content nonetheless ❤️
For John green Can you please make a video just saying hi to the best teacher in the whole wide world and beyond Mrs clough. She loves your book turtles all the way down and she just loves everything about you
I found this channel because this really famous dude named John Green mentioned it. And your name is John too.... WHAT ARE THE CHANCES. Seriously though, I'm more upset that I didn't know about it till now.
"even though"... We eradicated tuberculosis decades ago. If only that could be said with truth! Hopefully in a future sooner than we can imagine we will be able to say that.
Good lord, the next video queued was MinuteEarth's "In The Future, Death Will Be Different". John: "...The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us, even though..." Suddenly, MinuteEarth: "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE"
It's always funny watching tiktok reposts that aren't shorts. Because some of them have the hook in the end to wrap back to the start, but the video doesn't replay. So I'm just sitting here for 5 minutes thinking " 'Even though' what, John? 'Even though' what?"
Shout out to the modern day women (and men!) with ME/CFS, a disease also psychologised for many decades due to poor science, preventing research into physiological causes. We look back on the woo that filled in the gaps before we understood TB, cancer, diabetes and just about every other disease, and it’s easy to think these are problems of that past. They are not. Due to decades of under-funding into post-viral ME/CFS, we are very far behind the curve in understanding the sequelae of covid, as an ever-increasing proportion of our population become disabled. Patients with the symptom cluster that is ME/CFS following Covid are still treated as though it can be cured with psychological remedies, or worse with exercise and a bit of gumption. This takes sick but functioning people and renders them bedbound. For many diseases, even in the most modern health systems, we are still in the dark ages.
It feels like that bcuz its a perfect loop vid but youtube doesnt autoloop unless a video is 1 minute or shorter and shown as a shorts video. Heres the full sentence when ya loop it (stoppin at yr cuz i have no idea how to spell that name) "The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
Wow you and your brother are so similar its crazy. Hank however is way more chaotic while you are relaxed it seems. Never saw anything about you apart from books until this.
I watch/subscribe to Hank Green's CZcams channel and one day CZcams served me one of John's video shorts and I thought it was someone doing a spoof of Hank because he looked like him and was then copying the mannerisms and speech but doing it on non-science topics, I thought it was really funny, but CZcams has served me more videos to the point where I thought "Hmmm.... maybe this isn't a spoof or parody", and now I find he's his brother and this is a genuine account and not deliberately spoofing him. I'm so confused.
You could have mentioned "La dame aux camélias" by Alexandre Dumas fils. Movies were based on the novel. As well as Guiseppe Verdi's La Traviata. Bonne journée from 🇫🇷!
So interesting. Being pale too though was often associated with women who could afford to stay indoors all day - unlike the lower classes who worked outdoors in the sun etc. and rosy cheeks I would imagine is associated with youth too - so probably multi factorial - but definitely from your last video about Edger Poe it definitely seems romanticized at that time. People did strange things too to follow upper classes - like the rich who had rotting teeth from sugar, lower classes would add fake stains to their teeth. Whatever was popularized - that often being the wealthy, people did anything to copy - we are fickled creatures aren’t we 😂
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too) I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD "The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
Seens like people do this with more illnesses, disabilities and neurologies. Autsim comes to mind with those patronizing disappointment of not meeting the expectations of rain men, shell men, adamant surgeons, star trek fan fiction writers, robots, know it all book shelves.
You're awesome I love what you talk about. I think you're really interesting. I'd follow you on Twitter if I knew your name. I'll go on there and see if I can find John's channel...
I have a friend whom I find attractive. I’ve known her since 1994 and she’s known I find her attractive since ‘95 or ‘96. I tell her she has “Caravaggio eyes.” Before today, the only thing I knew about TB was that my mom - a 35+ year LPN - always tested positive. So I guess it’s more than the eyes, thinness, and deep-soul-here-for-a-good-time affect. She has ALL those things, she never lost them. Could it be evolutionary? It isn’t opportunistic at this point in time. We are both happily situated in our own lives. I would welcome any and all thoughts. I should call her, regardless.
... is this john green? the guy who taught me shit tonnes about history with his crashcourse series. How the frig have i not noticed this channel until now?!?!?
If we were watching this video on Tiktok it would loop when you get to the end, so he'd say "Even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887..." It's a common trope in short video formats like Tiktok and CZcams Shorts, but this video is too long to be a short so it doesn't loop. (If he wanted to go the extra mile to make it loop more perfectly, he could have recorded the end and start of the video in the same take, since there are other cuts in the middle. Not that it really matters for the quality of the video though.)
this showed up in my reccomended i have a question that has nothing to do with the content of this video: why isnt this a short for me? like, this is the sort of video youtube "shorts" (verb: makes into a short) right? and thats why it was in my recommended, right? because shorts stay in their little shorts section of youtube, so theyre not supposed to be recommended on four minute long landscape vlog brothers videos..........right?
You know the romanticisation of psysical illness and the thought it makes artist better than they would be if their mental health was a-okay (what percentage of the population would that be I wonder) weighs on him.
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too) I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD "The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too) I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD "The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
The anorexic look was popular in the 19th century. I guess taste in beauty does go in cycles. One hundred years before Toulouse-Lautrec was the end of the Baroque period with the likes of Rubens and his voluptuous women.
Whenever someone says " beauty standards are natural/healthy standards" I will remember this video
Like, they never were. Healthy middle weight women are called ugly 100x more than underweight women. The ideal has always been "Unhealthy but make it sexy." I've always been naturally skinny but once I lost 10 pounds from stress, I became dangerously underweight (I was exactly Twiggy's weight/height) I realized it was the only time in my life I could be a model because it's not natural for most women to have flat stomachs unless they are dehydrated...and I've never been overweight, just carried weight in my hips. By that standard I was my most beautiful but I felt awful.
(And for people who are naturally 10-20 lbs over the "healthy" weight they're constantly dieting to lose that which is bad for them. Some people just carry weight and it's good for them. It doesn't surprise me they did a longitudinal study that slightly overweight people have the longest lives, even above "ideal" BMI! And being underweight cuts way more years off your life, it's actually scary, on average 10-20 years(it's 25 years if you had anorexia) vs 4.5 years for overweight people but anyway that's just me getting the word out that what we deem beautiful (thinness vs fatness) has nothing to do with real beauty & everything to do with effed up ideals.
Anorexia,eating disorders and frankly abuse still exist man humanity is amazing isn't it
@@samaraisnt I'm sorry, I obviously don't want to question your personal experience, but what you say there is just inaccurate.
For one, dangerously skinny women being considered the height of beauty simply wasn't a thing for most of history and in most cultures, and most men today aren't more attracted to them either. It's an industry that tells us these things today, but reapplying this example to the past doesn't fly.
Of course, there were dangerous beauty ideals, I don't deny that. But saying the ideal would have always been identical to or notably and largely overlapped with being unhealthy is taking it a step too far. What's so unhealthy about "medium sized breasts" or "high forehead" or "blonde hair" or "bright lips"? Yes, there are lotos feet and lip plates and all that. But claiming "the ideal has always been unhealthy..." is simply false.
I feel like nobody ever says that
@@towerofgodfan4107 Well, that may be, but that still doesn't mean that the image conveyed as ideal was inherently unhealthy.
There's no shame in it, John. You can admit, that you mostly started this channel, so you'd have your own CZcams account. One that doesn't need to be shared with your pelican-watching brother.
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I can't tell if this his own separate youtube account or this is a fan uploading his tiktoks/Instagram stories (either way I am eternally grateful)
@@laineylarsen245 i believe he made it himself. Im sure he even mentioned it in a video all of once lol
I appreciate any and all things John and his brother Hank do. They are the light in this dark dark social media world.
John, no pressure, everything you do no matter how small has a huge impact on so many. I wish I had a fraction of your forethought, comprehension and compassion.
So, so disappointed in the CZcams algorithm for not recommending this channel to me sooner
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Was not expecting animagician to be a nerdfighter, but it is a welcome surprise
Someone has to say it during a discussion of disease and poetic meaninglessness.
“TB or not TB!”
Even though - even though what? I need to know more about the ways in which Consumption Chic prefigured Heroin Chic and Orthorexia Chic and other really unhealthy ways in which society has encouraged healthy people to pursue un-health in the name of beauty! (Also, I would like to know how you would rate Consumption on a scale of 1 to 5 stars, if you have not already done so.)
Its a definite one star, he rates most diseases as one star.
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too)
I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD
"The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
2 billion people have it. I know a lady, a math teacher from India, who developed a knot of TB on her spine. Initially her Dr in the US assumed it was cancer. They cut it out and she needs antibiotics for a year. All the best to her for recovery.
Oh! You'd love Kaz Rowe and their video 'The Costumes of Crimson Peak and How Tuberculosis Shaped Victorian Fashion'.
@@k8eekatt It's certainly a dreadful disease, and I can only hope that the world can pull together to stamp it out, as they did with smallpox in the 1970s.
It's fascinating, scary, and horrible, the way our beauty standards seem to revolve around disease and death and general unwellness. In a way, it's almost a disease itself, the way it attacks people who would otherwise be healthy and pressurizes them to comply.
and this(your comment) is a lot about health aspect, *But* in teens looking at social media and comparing their looks and I see shein advertisements (&huge amount of Instagram shopping section) and my classmates outfits all h&m, etc. Overconsumption of poor quality and Materialism in TEENS and absorbed in their time comparing themselves and hobbies on making outfits, shopping, etc for Aestheticness on SOCIAL MEDIA, and there's a lot of videos on it like teenager fashion channels who are Popular, this is just what I clearly see in 9th grade
Yeah, I mean a lot of our current beauty standards revolve around skinniness at any cost and it is not healthy. I saw a video the other day of a woman who lost 75 lbs in 2 months, which is WAY too fast and very dangerous, and everyone in the comments was like "don't worry that your hair is falling out, you're so beautiful in so many other ways!" They were just so excited for her "success" even though she was showing signs of malnutrition. It was very concerning. There's another video where a different woman is going into the details of how she's really sick but doctors don't know what's wrong with her, and she's lost a ton of weight and might be dying, but then says "but guess who's gonna be wearing a bikini at the beach this summer! ...if I feel well enough to go..."
A channel that already has 100 John videos that were previously secret to me‽ What a wonderful surprise on this Tuesday!
ikr
who remembers when John wanted to call TFioS "The Hectic Glow" after that Thoreau quote (in his video Participatory Geometry)
With context, that would actually be a pretty cool name for the book.
well, they're the coolest fictional band! 😎
Man who said he was done reviewing the human experience continues to review the human experience
Oh shite, i figured out what the even though continues to yall; its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD
Heres the full sentence as it wud sound if looped
"The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
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Dang, you're right! Isn't that how Finnegan's Wake works, where the closing line is continued by the opening line? Good catch!!
+++ the answer to the question the whole comment section was asking. Thanks!
One would think that because I follow all things Green on all platforms, and immediately follow new ones as I find out about them, that YT would have noticed I jump on whatever you and Hank post, but nooooooooo. Thank you for mentioning this channel in today's vlogbrothers.
They’re also romanticized because of youth and taking people in their “prime”, as consumption often did, and the urgency to live.
Ah, the Thoreau quote that gave us Hectic Glow.
Even though what? I need to know the rest of that sentence!
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too)
I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD
"The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
@@SylviaRustyFae Ah! Of course. 🤦♀️ This explains a lot of videos on the internet that I thought were just sloppy editing. Thank you :)
The algorithm blessing me with more tuberculosis content from John after Ive watched every single new CZcams Short he’s released about it.
You can never escape TB
Ok John, I'm all aboard the Tuberculosis history train. I hope it never ends.
Even though what! 😂I guess I'm now an old person shouting at clouds about how Tik Tok has ruined the ability to complete a sentence. Jokes notwithstanding, I'm super glad to have finally found this no-longer-semi-secret channel!
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too)
I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD
"The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
@@SylviaRustyFae this is actually genius! Thank you for pointing this out, the even though was driving me crazy
@@nemoforvermore8085 It took me a bit to figure it out and id complained about the even though part as well xD Then it hit me that "oh yea, looping shorts is a thing"
@@SylviaRustyFae Oh ok! Yeah I am definitely "out of the loop" here. 😁
I always think of that line from Heavenly Creatures, when Kate Winslet's character says, "All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases." Funny how we humans glamorize such a terrible illness, maybe out of desperation, or trying to look on the bright side? We are weird. Love these little bits of art & literature history mentioned here. I've had a twisted fascination with TB ever since being exposed to it when living in Japan in the 1990s (it's unfortunately still fairly commonly spread in Asia). Hooray for antibiotics (when used properly)
Desperation, sure, like how mental illness can be romanticized today. It's utterly terrifying and there isn't a lot we can do about it yet, so best to romanticize it.
Starting from here to binge watch things on this channel
You and me both
I know this is a minor thing, and ya dont have to do it if ya dont feel like it after all, but as this is nerdfighteria we are in; im gonna bring it up.
The word binge has some negative, and sometimes triggerin, associations in some folks minds. Both those who have had eatin disorders characterised usin that word and also for those who have found themselves drinking in a way characterised usin that word.
Instd of "binge watching" or "binging", i myself, as someone who deals with alcoholism, prefer to use or see the word "marathon" or any similar term.
It also feels better to me bcuz it doesnt characterise the activity of watchin somethin in one sitting as inherently negative in the same way the word binge does.
I’m so shook this is useful information as an opera singer tbh they all die of consumption, this explains so much lmao
I am so thankful for this channel already, and have only been here 10mins
Thank you for sharing your not-so-secret-anymore channel with the masses, John! Signed, a busy mother-of-two millennial who finds herself with little time to surf CZcams (thus finding content organically) but appreciates your content nonetheless ❤️
For John green
Can you please make a video just saying hi to the best teacher in the whole wide world and beyond Mrs clough. She loves your book turtles all the way down and she just loves everything about you
i especially loved the conclusion
I live this review and what it says about people and also that Hugi joke is fantastic
I found this channel because this really famous dude named John Green mentioned it. And your name is John too.... WHAT ARE THE CHANCES. Seriously though, I'm more upset that I didn't know about it till now.
Ah, that’s where the hectic glow reference comes from! Worth the 10 years wait to bump into this quote.
That Belladonna factoid got me thinking whether the name of the poison actually comes from "Bella Donna", "pretty woman" in italian
"Bella Donna" is also the title of a 1981 album by Stevie Nicks.
"even though"... We eradicated tuberculosis decades ago. If only that could be said with truth! Hopefully in a future sooner than we can imagine we will be able to say that.
Good lord, the next video queued was MinuteEarth's "In The Future, Death Will Be Different".
John: "...The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us, even though..."
Suddenly, MinuteEarth: "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE"
That's both disturbing and brilliant.
It's always funny watching tiktok reposts that aren't shorts. Because some of them have the hook in the end to wrap back to the start, but the video doesn't replay.
So I'm just sitting here for 5 minutes thinking " 'Even though' what, John? 'Even though' what?"
This was the start of an era and we didn't even know it!
This is incredible and painful to watch. Thank you john
Shout out to the modern day women (and men!) with ME/CFS, a disease also psychologised for many decades due to poor science, preventing research into physiological causes.
We look back on the woo that filled in the gaps before we understood TB, cancer, diabetes and just about every other disease, and it’s easy to think these are problems of that past. They are not.
Due to decades of under-funding into post-viral ME/CFS, we are very far behind the curve in understanding the sequelae of covid, as an ever-increasing proportion of our population become disabled. Patients with the symptom cluster that is ME/CFS following Covid are still treated as though it can be cured with psychological remedies, or worse with exercise and a bit of gumption. This takes sick but functioning people and renders them bedbound.
For many diseases, even in the most modern health systems, we are still in the dark ages.
this is fascinating as a lot of people are drawn to aesthetics like that (for example heroin chic), me included, but I don’t know why
I watched this as a tegular CZcams video and not a short so it didn't loop, he just cut off abruptly.
I'm subscribed to CrashCourse. How has CZcams NOT recommended John Green's new channel?
Errr.. I'd love to see the rest of the video! Did you know the end is cut off?
I give this video three and a half stars mostly because it feels like you cut off in the mi
ddle of what you were saying but that could have just been me.
It feels like that bcuz its a perfect loop vid but youtube doesnt autoloop unless a video is 1 minute or shorter and shown as a shorts video.
Heres the full sentence when ya loop it (stoppin at yr cuz i have no idea how to spell that name)
"The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
Toulouse-Lautrec is a fascinating character in and of himself
Yes, this is THAT video.
Wow you and your brother are so similar its crazy. Hank however is way more chaotic while you are relaxed it seems. Never saw anything about you apart from books until this.
Hectic glow? Good name for a band
I watch/subscribe to Hank Green's CZcams channel and one day CZcams served me one of John's video shorts and I thought it was someone doing a spoof of Hank because he looked like him and was then copying the mannerisms and speech but doing it on non-science topics, I thought it was really funny, but CZcams has served me more videos to the point where I thought "Hmmm.... maybe this isn't a spoof or parody", and now I find he's his brother and this is a genuine account and not deliberately spoofing him. I'm so confused.
John's Channel!!!!
hit that tumb peeps! make johns channel Trending!
don’t worry john we’re here now
You could have mentioned "La dame aux camélias" by Alexandre Dumas fils. Movies were based on the novel. As well as Guiseppe Verdi's La Traviata. Bonne journée from 🇫🇷!
the cravings for more TAR will be quiet for a few weeks now.
sheesh he's had this up since February
So interesting. Being pale too though was often associated with women who could afford to stay indoors all day - unlike the lower classes who worked outdoors in the sun etc. and rosy cheeks I would imagine is associated with youth too - so probably multi factorial - but definitely from your last video about Edger Poe it definitely seems romanticized at that time. People did strange things too to follow upper classes - like the rich who had rotting teeth from sugar, lower classes would add fake stains to their teeth. Whatever was popularized - that often being the wealthy, people did anything to copy - we are fickled creatures aren’t we 😂
Even though…? Even thought…!
Even thought what?!!!!
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too)
I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD
"The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
@@SylviaRustyFae Why would he do this, even if CZcams autolooped it (which it doesn't)?
Thanks for the explanation though.
@@JosephDavies What do you mean why wud he do it? The vid autolooped on Tiktok originally and he reuploaded it here
I didn't TB had this much history until I watched your videos
John you should have just told us you were here
Seens like people do this with more illnesses, disabilities and neurologies.
Autsim comes to mind with those patronizing disappointment of not meeting the expectations of rain men, shell men, adamant surgeons, star trek fan fiction writers, robots, know it all book shelves.
It's supposed to loop! It doesn't cut off randomly
Vlogbrothers notification squad where we at?
Who oh why do you not have more long form content?!
You're awesome I love what you talk about. I think you're really interesting. I'd follow you on Twitter if I knew your name. I'll go on there and see if I can find John's channel...
Consumptive look lol this history has me so chuffed
the later example of the same EXACT thing in beauty standards was heroin chic.
literally looking like you were addicted to heroin
Got a little cut of at the end there
I have a friend whom I find attractive.
I’ve known her since 1994 and she’s known I find her attractive since ‘95 or ‘96. I tell her she has “Caravaggio eyes.”
Before today, the only thing I knew about TB was that my mom - a 35+ year LPN - always tested positive.
So I guess it’s more than the eyes, thinness, and deep-soul-here-for-a-good-time affect. She has ALL those things, she never lost them.
Could it be evolutionary? It isn’t opportunistic at this point in time. We are both happily situated in our own lives.
I would welcome any and all thoughts.
I should call her, regardless.
I, too, only make bangers
... is this john green? the guy who taught me shit tonnes about history with his crashcourse series. How the frig have i not noticed this channel until now?!?!?
The atropine in common bindweeds is less risky than belladonna. Datura is probably the best in the nightshade family for usefulness.
"consumptive pallor"
Yup, that's going in the notebook.
I searched tuberculosis in my history and all of them are from John
Omar comin!
Any non fiction book recommendations for further reading on tuberculosis?:)
❤
I JUST READ ABOUT THIS GUY ON WIKIPEDIA THIS MORNING. what the heck
John still not talking about the TB vaccine for reasons?
This makes red dead so much deeper that Arthur got tb.
y’know i was thinking this guy sure looks, sounds, and acts a lot like hank green. it makes sense now.
Even though? Even though what, John? Please, part 2, where you don't pull An Imperial Affliction on us!
If we were watching this video on Tiktok it would loop when you get to the end, so he'd say "Even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887..." It's a common trope in short video formats like Tiktok and CZcams Shorts, but this video is too long to be a short so it doesn't loop.
(If he wanted to go the extra mile to make it loop more perfectly, he could have recorded the end and start of the video in the same take, since there are other cuts in the middle. Not that it really matters for the quality of the video though.)
Feel like John next video is going to reveal that he does indeed have tuberculosis
hey Hank how's John doing?
The Hectic Glow would be a good band name. 😉
The great, American novelist Thomas Wolfe died young of TB.
Did this end in mid sentence on purpose?
Aaah!!!! Even though what? Why did that stop mid sentence?
this showed up in my reccomended i have a question that has nothing to do with the content of this video:
why isnt this a short for me? like, this is the sort of video youtube "shorts" (verb: makes into a short) right? and thats why it was in my recommended, right? because shorts stay in their little shorts section of youtube, so theyre not supposed to be recommended on four minute long landscape vlog brothers videos..........right?
Wait is this the guy from ally old history videos?!
Even though what? I need to know more about this cause what? What even is our society(ies)...how why...just uh what?
Oh no. The video cut off with "even though-"
You know the romanticisation of psysical illness and the thought it makes artist better than they would be if their mental health was a-okay (what percentage of the population would that be I wonder) weighs on him.
Is this abrupt ending an Imperial Affliction-like metaphor about life and disease
You're very handsome, damn
Rice powder. Gluten free beauty!
OK John - what do we have to do to hear the rest of the sentence?
It's a reupload from Tiktok, so it's supposed to loop at the end, i.e. "Even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887..."
Oh, okay! Thanks, I would never have gotten there. @@17thstellation
Why he give me Hank Green vibe
Brilliant stuff
Bring on the terminal diseases
xaxaxaax you forgot @shorts
even though what John? Even Though What!?
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too)
I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD
"The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
Even though....what? I must know...
"Even though... this painting was made all the way back in 1887." (Gonna put the full sentence at the end too)
I figured out what the even though continues to! Its a perfect loop vid but cuz its longer than a short on youtube; it doesnt automatically loop xD
"The ideas that emerged from the romanticisation of consumption are still with us today; even though this painting was made all the way back in 1887"
@@SylviaRustyFae OH! That's really cool, thanks for pointing that out!
Even though what John?!
The anorexic look was popular in the 19th century. I guess taste in beauty does go in cycles. One hundred years before Toulouse-Lautrec was the end of the Baroque period with the likes of Rubens and his voluptuous women.
I can't belive this guy is 40
inb4 100 views.