I read the book in Korean 4years ago. It was very impressive and inspired to me at that time. and than Im watching those videos now. great message. Thank you. Pastor Kyle.
A fan, could be serving two masters, no doubt is! Seen "Part 1" today in our small group. I consider myself a follower, but a follower who is still teachable!
What's really interesting here is that the first video in the series has like 42K views, part 2 has about 600, and the next installments less than that. A lot of people came into the series telling themselves, "I'm a follower, not a fan", and then quit... Which ironically is what the series is about, making a claim in Christ for appearance or out of convenience and then not taking it seriously and walking away. By the end of the series less than 1% of the viewers stuck around...
I think it's because Kyle Idleman's follower/fan dichotomy is something he made up. Most Christians want to hear the whole council of God, not silly, contrived paradigms that can't be found in Scripture. Kyle doesn't call people to repentance for any particular sins, he just calls them to a ladder climbing faux Christianity. The standard set for being a follower, not a fan? Feel as committed as Kyle is. How will you know you are doing and feeling enough? Kyle will judge.
Amazing.. I have been well known to be a "fan" lately and I have no idea how I got to this video but it has opened my eyes. Just what I needed to hear. Thank you.
I like this, these videos are meant to get you thinking. Look for the Not a Fan daily journal and start digging. Start praying, start asking God to mold you into who HE wants you to be. It's not easy, but Jesus never ever claimed being a Follower was easy. Put aside yourself and let God lead your life. If you are uncomfortable with something Kyle is saying pray about it maybe it is God using Kyle's words to convict you.
It's funny, cause I'm a guy and the "DTR" talk is something I very much so enjoy and talk about quite early on. I want them to know what I am looking for, why I enjoy their company, why I am sticking around and where I hope to end up and whether they feel similarly and or what they want. Without this interaction, you're practically just throwing your emotions in a direction and have no idea what things really mean. Anyone can like someone, but if you don't discuss and communicate towards the future, what is it, but a nice feel good time that may fall apart at any moment?
We are studying the "Not a Fan" book at church. It is really good and truly makes you re-evaluate your relationship with Christ and consider are you a "fan" or a follower.
There are vegetarians who are lacto ova. Dairy and eggs. Flexitarians are folks who will be polite and eat animal products if served but tend to avoid preparing animal products themselves. Vegans eat no animal products at all. Our Tuesday night Bible study is doing your six part series. Its good.
Hi El Doe So am I. But we're shown mercy by the Lord to realise that we're short of what He wants us to be. So I think we must show a response to the Lord that's worth His mercy upon us i.e, to become His followers.
and that is the problem with the religion, and I'm not saying I'm complete;y right but i treat this relationship as a faith not a religion. this way there are not rules set in stone for me but if i get any commandment from God/Jesus/Holy Spirit i will follow it, as a follower not a fan
The 2000 year old Church of Christ was always about baptized followers of Jesus who are miserable sinners needing the assurance and sweetness of the Gospel as found in the Word and Sacrament. The Church has never had this "fan" understanding ...
Jay Hillz82 What is "lordship salvation"? Hopefully this isn't taken the wrong way, just looking for clarification. :) If it means that one needs Jesus to get to God, then this is the correct teaching. Since the only ancient texts we have on the subject is the Bible, than that is the standard we would have to adhere to. So, in the Bible, it states that Christ is the only way to God the Father. John 14:6 says, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (Just to clarify, for those who don't know, the word "Christian" literally means "Christ Follower".) If someone doesn't believe in what the Bible says that Jesus said, that person is not a Christ Follower.
I believe you put God first you don't say that you are a Christ and not live it day to live! Meeting that. If you say that your a Christma you need to live life. Before you tell some one. To !o p.s. Auntny Rary and are backup because he's will not put God first in he's live !p.s. Page and Sophia Maria like you !o and I have Godleey Man in my live one who Tureley is a ture Christma. Who ture put God first before me thank Honey Baer🐻😁😒😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😒p.s. Pege siad i give for you but I do not love no more !and sister I for give but never love you but we will Pary for to come to Jesus!love sister Page border Family Dollar s. And Sophia Maria !😁😁😁😁😁🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
How sad to see that he is using man-made pop psychology for his twisted teachings. The "minister" 's definition of follower of Jesus is all Law-driven and there is no Gospel (fully committed, are you sincere enough, fully re-commited ... mouse-trap of moralistic Evangelicalism). I missed hearing the words "Jesus for the forgiveness of sins" and repentance (instead I got "complete renovation", "overhaul" etc.).
6 mins in before any Scripture...🤔and then only 1 verse .... too much of Kyle's words, very little of Jesus. To REALLY be a follower of Jesus you must FIRST be a repentant believer....THEN open your Bible and allow the Holy Spirit to teach you !!! Man's words are mostly full of hot air!!!
"Pick up a cross and follow Jesus"? What exactly does that mean? What does it entail? You talk a lot but say very little. Give some concrete examples, Kyle. You're very good at spouting rhetoric; always quick to tell everyone how inadequate they are as Christians... but you never offer any positive suggestions or anything specific. Unless you can make a buck by selling crap on your website.
socksumi It's all about going back to the texts in the Bible. Who cares about what this guy says if it's not backed up in the Bible, eh? Luckily for this guy and for all of us who watched, all the rhetoric he speaks of is in the Bible. This goes right into John 14:6-- "Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."' Don't believe what other people say about God unless you can back it up with the source. ;) And if you want more of what Jesus was saying in context, read the whole chapter (or book) of John. This should put that teeny-tiny phrase into the bigger picture.
i have to say. i was a fan. but my pastor challenge me with this same thought but he used simulated or real christian. and now i'm a follower.
I've designed some shirts with "Follower - Not a fan". Check em out: shop.spreadshirt.de/notafan
I read the book in Korean 4years ago. It was very impressive and inspired to me at that time. and than Im watching those videos now. great message. Thank you. Pastor Kyle.
I have your book! Not a fan. It's a masterpiece, especially the way it addresses the naked truth about commitment
A fan, could be serving two masters, no doubt is! Seen "Part 1" today in our small group. I consider myself a follower, but a follower who is still teachable!
What's really interesting here is that the first video in the series has like 42K views, part 2 has about 600, and the next installments less than that. A lot of people came into the series telling themselves, "I'm a follower, not a fan", and then quit... Which ironically is what the series is about, making a claim in Christ for appearance or out of convenience and then not taking it seriously and walking away. By the end of the series less than 1% of the viewers stuck around...
I think it's because Kyle Idleman's follower/fan dichotomy is something he made up. Most Christians want to hear the whole council of God, not silly, contrived paradigms that can't be found in Scripture. Kyle doesn't call people to repentance for any particular sins, he just calls them to a ladder climbing faux Christianity. The standard set for being a follower, not a fan? Feel as committed as Kyle is. How will you know you are doing and feeling enough? Kyle will judge.
THE BIBLE DOES SAY THAT WE SHOULD EXAMINE OURSELVES TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE REALLY IN THE FAITH. 2 CORINTHIANS 13:5
Amazing.. I have been well known to be a "fan" lately and I have no idea how I got to this video but it has opened my eyes. Just what I needed to hear. Thank you.
I can never get enough of this.. :)
Thank you Sally for clarifying the meat controversy.
I like this, these videos are meant to get you thinking. Look for the Not a Fan daily journal and start digging. Start praying, start asking God to mold you into who HE wants you to be. It's not easy, but Jesus never ever claimed being a Follower was easy. Put aside yourself and let God lead your life. If you are uncomfortable with something Kyle is saying pray about it maybe it is God using Kyle's words to convict you.
It's funny, cause I'm a guy and the "DTR" talk is something I very much so enjoy and talk about quite early on. I want them to know what I am looking for, why I enjoy their company, why I am sticking around and where I hope to end up and whether they feel similarly and or what they want. Without this interaction, you're practically just throwing your emotions in a direction and have no idea what things really mean. Anyone can like someone, but if you don't discuss and communicate towards the future, what is it, but a nice feel good time that may fall apart at any moment?
Amen.
We are studying the "Not a Fan" book at church. It is really good and truly makes you re-evaluate your relationship with Christ and consider are you a "fan" or a follower.
great message ... only wish it had a spanish dubbed version as this message is exactly what we need at our mission in Peru ...
si para los que hablan el español! porfis! (-:
Wow thank you... Everything you're saying is true .
I am a follower.
Found it. :-)
D.T.R Define The Relationship
how do you know if you are "true" ... true to what/how ?
fans only work when you plug them in to the word (-:
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Please help. After reading what chapters of the book do you watch this video for Bible Study?
Rich Abraham John 14:6 :)
+Dragonfly Sparrow how does this help? hahahaha x'D
There are vegetarians who are lacto ova. Dairy and eggs. Flexitarians are folks who will be polite and eat animal products if served but tend to avoid preparing animal products themselves. Vegans eat no animal products at all. Our Tuesday night Bible study is doing your six part series. Its good.
ughhhh this is killing my soul !! . its piercing through my heart, and i really do not like that feeling . I guesss that's what the truth does !!!
im a fan (: but sometimes im a follower too (: depends on how i feel that day (: and i feel completely fine (: just fine (:
watch what you listen to try to listen to Christian music more and more I used to listen to worldy music but don't anymore I think its disgusting.
Zara I know your watching this later on just want to tell you. It's ok. And I love you just the way you are. Talk to me. We are twins so...🤣🤣
I am fan. :(
Hi El Doe
So am I. But we're shown mercy by the Lord to realise that we're short of what He wants us to be. So I think we must show a response to the Lord that's worth His mercy upon us i.e, to become His followers.
and that is the problem with the religion, and I'm not saying I'm complete;y right but i treat this relationship as a faith not a religion. this way there are not rules set in stone for me but if i get any commandment from God/Jesus/Holy Spirit i will follow it, as a follower not a fan
Why bother watching this then?
The 2000 year old Church of Christ was always about baptized followers of Jesus who are miserable sinners needing the assurance and sweetness of the Gospel as found in the Word and Sacrament. The Church has never had this "fan" understanding ...
They don't like your sermons?... Uh, maybe cause you teach lordship salvation??
Jay Hillz82 What is "lordship salvation"? Hopefully this isn't taken the wrong way, just looking for clarification. :) If it means that one needs Jesus to get to God, then this is the correct teaching. Since the only ancient texts we have on the subject is the Bible, than that is the standard we would have to adhere to. So, in the Bible, it states that Christ is the only way to God the Father. John 14:6 says, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (Just to clarify, for those who don't know, the word "Christian" literally means "Christ Follower".) If someone doesn't believe in what the Bible says that Jesus said, that person is not a Christ Follower.
i believe that
i don't know where simon brown get.. "and die for Jesus" when we are already dead in our traspasses. We are made alive in Him.
don't add to scripture Simon
Pick up your cross? Explain please
I believe you put God first you don't say that you are a Christ and not live it day to live! Meeting that. If you say that your a Christma you need to live life. Before you tell some one. To !o p.s. Auntny Rary and are backup because he's will not put God first in he's live !p.s. Page and Sophia Maria like you !o and I have Godleey Man in my live one who Tureley is a ture Christma. Who ture put God first before me thank Honey Baer🐻😁😒😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😒p.s. Pege siad i give for you but I do not love no more !and sister I for give but never love you but we will Pary for to come to Jesus!love sister Page border Family Dollar s. And Sophia Maria !😁😁😁😁😁🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
How sad to see that he is using man-made pop psychology for his twisted teachings. The "minister" 's definition of follower of Jesus is all Law-driven and there is no Gospel (fully committed, are you sincere enough, fully re-commited ... mouse-trap of moralistic Evangelicalism). I missed hearing the words "Jesus for the forgiveness of sins" and repentance (instead I got "complete renovation", "overhaul" etc.).
6 mins in before any Scripture...🤔and then only 1 verse .... too much of Kyle's words, very little of Jesus.
To REALLY be a follower of Jesus you must FIRST be a repentant believer....THEN open your Bible and allow the Holy Spirit to teach you !!! Man's words are mostly full of hot air!!!
"Pick up a cross and follow Jesus"? What exactly does that mean? What does it entail? You talk a lot but say very little. Give some concrete examples, Kyle. You're very good at spouting rhetoric; always quick to tell everyone how inadequate they are as Christians... but you never offer any positive suggestions or anything specific. Unless you can make a buck by selling crap on your website.
This is WEEK 1 of MANY weeks / chapters of the book. Read the book, watch the rest of the videos and THEN ask the question.
Exactly
socksumi It's all about going back to the texts in the Bible. Who cares about what this guy says if it's not backed up in the Bible, eh? Luckily for this guy and for all of us who watched, all the rhetoric he speaks of is in the Bible. This goes right into John 14:6-- "Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."' Don't believe what other people say about God unless you can back it up with the source. ;) And if you want more of what Jesus was saying in context, read the whole chapter (or book) of John. This should put that teeny-tiny phrase into the bigger picture.