I Turned My Back On English Football for the Italian Ultras
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- čas přidán 10. 03. 2019
- West Ham United F.C. moved from Upton Park to the London Olympic Stadium in 2016. Meet the fan who was left feeling heartbroken, stopped buying season tickets, and decided to spend his money on trips to Italy to support a third division football team.
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For us, Italians, money and fame doesn’t matter.
Passion and love does.
And that’s why all the big names have left
@@Porkcylinder Wtf you talking about England and English football is run by foreigners
@@mr.diabolik5997 firstly even if that was true wtf has it got to do with ANYTHING I said you stupid tw@ And secondly of course foreigners want to invest in the worlds most popular league which it was before any Jonny Arab turned up. They just want a slice of the pie ya dozy jealous clown
LOOOOL tell that to Juventus, AC Milan, Reginna, Lazio and the other clubs who love the MONEY!! MONEY MONEY MONEY.....BS on passion and Love apart from your apparels and cars lol
@@Porkcylinder true. English football fans want their clubs to be bought out by a foreign billionaires. Italian and German fans would be repulsed by this
English football is McDonalds - rich and powerful but a cheap imitation of food
I’m a Sheffield Wednesday season ticket holder but got a love for Atalanta. Went over last year,fantastic supporters made us feel very welcome.
Atalanta are comunists pieces of shit. We ac milan fans beaten (off and on the pitch) them a lot of times, The real ultras are Lazio, Milan, Rome, Naples. All right wing violent 🤚🏻
naples or napoli is better
@@carloclemente8026 what did u just say???
oddio bergamio! communista merda
@@antonypavon1777 just read
In a way I can understand where he is coming from the community felt integrated in the club also had a sense of belonging. It now feels more like a businesses than anything else. The price of the tickets and the merchandise have put a lot of the original supporters off from attending their beloved football team.
But the same fans demand a better team, results, achievements, and most of that can only come if you run the club more as a business, like every other club is doing right now.
@@carlosparra8976 The problem is larger football teams the price themselves so lot of the supporters and their families can no longer afford to go. The merchandise is extremely expensive and changes frequently if you have a family where you have three children and they all want the latest strips it becomes extremely expensive. There is very few football teams I put back into the community but expect the community to support them. Footballers overpaid if they were paid on performance we would have a better standard of football and not the mediocre football we have.
@@carlosparra8976 bs. Only in the pl
@@carlosparra8976 English premier league clubs have no excuse for charging the obscene ticket prices they do they make billions in tv revenue and sponsorship etc it's pure greed.
I get what he's talking about, top level football in England is losing it's soul. Back in the 80s my Grandad used to take me to games and it was a very different atmosphere and feeling. It was a community thing. The ticket costs, mega stadiums, different fans and lots of other factors have totally changed things and robbed the heart out of it.
100% agree, the Premier League is about commercialisation of 6 clubs.
English football has become woke and feminised
@@MrCharlieC23 by woke do you mean, doesn’t allow racism anymore?
Fair play but the stadiums were shite in the 70s and 80s (and early 90s) and they also had hooliganism.
Love it. Been a fan of Italian football and the whole culture in Italy since I can remember. James Richardson in a cafe somewhere on channel 4 back in the day (calcio italia) loved it and wish it was still on. Obviously a time when serie A was flourishing but still love it to this day and the main reason I have BT sports now. I've visited a good few stadiums in Italy and get over when I can. Fans in Italy are on a completely different level to England. Its all over policed and structured here and it takes the heart and soul out of it completely. I'll never forget my first serie A experience walking into a packed stadio olimpico to watch AS Roma v AC Milan. One of those moments that will last forever in the memories. Hoping to return to a game this year. Forza italia 🇮🇹
Good comment. Da Italia 🇮🇹 Ultras liberi
He likes people that has the same love for the sport, nothing wron. Love soccer as well. Pasion!!
YouAintAliveGaming what is soccer
what is soccer
The Football Planet soccer is ⚽️ , football is 🏈 , in the us is like that. In mexico footballs means ⚽️ lol i know
Its football mate
It's football. You play it with foot.
I know where he's coming from, having experienced similarly intense support over nearly 30 years watching affordable football in Germany. Leaving the Boleyn was tragic and borderline criminal - a disaster for West Ham's support.
Because you won't find a people with a zest for life and passionate than the Italians. And as foreigner or expat, they not only embrace you with warm hospitality, but they take a deep interest in who you are and where you come from as well. Viva Italia!
😂😂😂 ma vai a cagare 😂 prova ad andare in Sudamerica, poi vedi se non ci sono popoli più passionali di noi... Ridicolo 🤡
Fully understand you
0:36 That's all you are to football clubs mate. Purely a customer.
Im from Amsterdam and i've been an Ajax and AS Roma supporter all my life. I go to see Roma maybe 3 times a year. When they play in europe closeby i also try to go. Forza Roma
No era of football can match Italian football in the 90’s… the noise, the colours, the foggy flares… all coming across our TV’s on a Sunday afternoon! Magic…. 😢
E tutto passione❤️
More relevant than ever!
As a Italian,i have always preferred English Football and Support !! At 8 years old was already a Scousers Fan; then i had to choose an Italian team:Milan AC!!! Music played its part( Stone Roses,Smith, Happy Mondays etc)
I love this story! That is how I am with Ourense CF...and, in the EPL, btw, I am a West Ham fan. Used to live at the Bolyen...literally. It is sad to see it so empty and it is sad to know that West Ham's former grounds have been destroyed!
As a Brazilian living in UK, I can say that the way some fans support around here is like a big theater I now some fans as crystal palace are really noise but I think the Italians football support are kind of the Brazilians 🇧🇷❤️🇮🇹.
Love this. Know exactly where he is coming from
I like your mentality. I'm 52 years old now and still can agree with everything you said.
In modern football professional clubs always have the problem to maintain a balance between commerciality (which in a lot of cases ensures to a bigger degree survival) and its hardcore fanbase. For many of those the most important thing is the identification with the club, i.e. not to sell out. I'm from Basel and currently there is a controversy about selling the name of the stadium. There were other issues in the past and if the fans are organised they can have an influence. You have to fight back against some developments.
I feel exactly the same
Just go to any league in England that isn't the prem
Ik
I hear Millwall have a decent following
Just come to South America
Or just adventure into kosovo
HKsauce99 that’s a lie❌. There are NO ultras in England.
I'm a football coach from Liverpool, lived and coached in England, Scotland & USA. I will be moving to Italy in the next year to coach and learn as much as possible from the Italian game. Not only has the clubs become disconnected from the fans in England so have the FA, SFA & FAW, they want to charge 15k for UEFA A & Pro licenses, the FIGC in Italy charge 3k!
Remember when people on Sky Sports News used to say Italy should follow the English model by developing the stadiums and facilities and it will bring a better standard of supporter in and end the ultras culture!
I see you never made it as a coach or to Italy great statement though wish you all the best at Poundland
@@waynehardiman5443No mate, I haven't. I currently work for an EFL club as a scout. This is after I worked for a nation at AFCON 2021 as opposition scout & also working oppositional analysis for a team in the Luxembourg premier league whilst completing my licenses in scouting & opposition analysis. As for the UEFA coaching licenses, I'm doing well on the pathway the club who employ me in the SPL are kindly subsidizing.
Totally agree
Italian football is still the best in the world, while the English game is just americanised now
The legacy of Hillsborough got politicians into football. No flags, no safe standing, no flares allowed. English fans have passion it’s just we are priced out and aren’t allowed to express it
Its really not. A team of Man Utd cast offs is cruising the league... I personally love the the Italian style of play and the tactical culture but lets not ignore facts.
Yeah that’s why the English second division has higher attendances than seria A 😂😂
@@Porkcylinder that's because in Italy they've been able to watch every single game for 20 plus years. Now it's so cheap to watch football at home that it's almost silly to go to the stadium. You can watch every team in serie a for 20/30 euro a month. So it would cost a father and son double that to watch one game. Also Italy hasn't been thriving for the last 10/15 years economically
@@spz8342 you can also watch every premier game for £30 a month so that’s rubbish. and English football is the most expensive on the planet yet every stadiums full for every game. The reason seria A is dead is because it isn’t competitive, it’s boring, it has problems with racists , violent thugs, corruption and out and out cheating and it was usurped by the premier league as the worlds number one, top players don’t go to Italy anymore they come to England., and your stadiums are crumbling and empty.
Doesn't everyone who was a teenager in 90's England have a secret Italian team they support courtesy of James Richardson and Football Italia on Channel 4. Mine was Fiorentina, the Viola 💜. Got a secret Toyota shirt I wear on special occasions. Goooolazzo!
This moment he goes back to the Boleyn, when you see what has happened to the hallowed ground where you invested so much passion and emotion. Where your Dad took you as a small boy. Where you went with your mates as a teenager, where you took your son. And you see the second rate flats and shops and BS that has replaced it. This is truly the definition of sadness as a football fan. Perhaps it’s also a lesson. Same thing for me seeing what has happened to Highfield Road. PUSB.
You follow your team because of the connection you have to it. I don't know how you could give up supporting your club because of a ground change.
Club is just a organisation thats it
he literally said right in the beginning that he still supports them and just hates the new stadium lol
Guy with the Celtic top haha!! Brilliant up the Clapton
I was his best man at his wedding 😂
8 years after leaving Upton Park I still despise the London stadium
I lived 4 years on Green Street, I’m a Lazio fan and obviously West Ham, everything changed since they move the club, no more atmosphere no more brotherhood.....
LONG LIVE THE BOYLEN!!!!
Lazio & West Ham 🦅⚒️
I'm 🇮🇹🇺🇲 from Bensonhurst Brooklyn born and raised 🇮🇹💯% ive had Italian citizenship since I was 22 my moms family is from Trapani in Sicily and my dads family is Neapolitan i absolutely understand where he's coming from but the Italian ultra scene isn't what it was especially with the fan id system but there is something special about attending games in serie a more so than premier league games but i think the English championship has some great environments also
Forza Trapani 🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻
Forza Calabria !
Championship is incredible this year, the drama and unpredictability, passion and excitement, it’s everything the premier league used to be.
Premier league has been dying since Pep and Man City money took over, and the Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney - Fergie vs Wenger, Viera Vs Keane, etc etc era finished.
No rivalries anymore, Pep and Klopp have a bigger bromance than a rivalry. Fans aren’t allowed to be fans. Half the stands for big teams are Asians recording the game on their phones.
Anfield atmosphere is dying, that tells you how bad it’s becoming.
Feel so sorry for West Ham, one of the best and most notorious fan bases essentially killed off. Moving stadiums to a non football purpose stadium is pretty much like an nfl team moving states.
Forza Arezzo!!!
Great Video, football is about community and passion
Fratello 👊🏻
I love italian football
Oh you went to Arezzo :o you missed the good old days at Arezzo
Come in Cosenza and you'll love the ultras there! Especially now that we are in serie B, Forza Lupi!🐺🔴🔵
Up the calabrese 🔥
Green Street Hooligans 4 : Becoming The Ultras 😂
Great video
I went to the San Siro a few weeks ago which was something I'd wanted to do for years and I actually thought the atmosphere was pretty rubbish. Thousands of empty seats and most of the fans only piped up once they'd gone 1-0 up.
The ultras were brilliant singing, dancing, beating drums throughout but they were at the other end of the stadium. Everyone around us was pretty quiet.
Should have went to Salernitana instead. A club who play in maroon/claret colours, have a nice (but oversized) stadium and possibly a Serie A club soon
Random question here but does anyone know the name of the track that is playing when he is in his kitchen talking about when he was working in the clothes shop???
I am a lifelong Southampton fan but I get exactly what he is saying. I have completely fallen out of love with English football.
Community as football in support.
Great story
I've been trying to bring Ultras to my local non-league club Wingate & Finchley but we only get 4 members at a game plus a few more people who join in sometimes. Everyone from the club appreciates us but it hasn't grown as much as others and I wanted it to. We only get 140 or so a game in a league that some teams get double or triple that but it still doesn't take away the positive atmosphere from the fans who come. We also have a friendship with a Greek 3rd division side and have met people from other ultras group. If anyone from North London and South Hertfordshire wants to join in with all the noise and be part of a new welcoming community you're welcome to join by just turning up to Wingate & Finchley games. We have a nice atmosphere suited to people who want to have their football fix, meet mates, bring family or people who are just fed up of Premier and Championship football.
Turn up as it's cheap, a great place to socialise and destress yourself from whatever is happening outside of the stadium
Stadium location: Summers Ln, London N12 0PD
Do get all you’ve said, 100% . I’ve done the same , but dropped down our divisions there’s a lot going in your home country
I’m from arezzo but why this video is on my youtube home?
This is very cool! There are so many hidden gems in lower league football. As an Arsenal fan I won't say I lost any of my passion since the move to the Emirates, but I do feel less of a connection than sitting in the clock end.
My personal favourite is St Pauli! Brilliant experience!!
P.S. no violence in football, please. Banter is more than enough
St Pauli are communists though 🤢
Moving to the emirates wasnt the same as what West Ham did. Emirates is a football stadium. The west ham one is a multistadium.
I supported Spurs for 45 years.
And it got to the stage I was spending fortunes and they won nothing.
My wife is Italian and she said go with family to watch Inter at the San Siro.
I’m now a season ticket holder for the last 5 years. Price €525.00.
I have also made so many new friends and travelled to Salzburg & Madrid for the CL games.
Flights £60+ return and I stay out there from Friday to Monday.
Forza Inter 😉
I understand , I don't agree with him 100% but I understand!
🙌🙌🙌
respect bro, from lecce
Does anyone know this guys name, doing some research for my uni dissertation would love to get in contact with him
wondering if he is back to west ham now with hammers winning a european trophy
Probably yes .
This story is just sad
Sounds interesting. It's political in a way. Lad's telling you what's up.
Thid guy is 100% truth speaking. The Premier League has pitiful atmosphere compared to our European neighbours. English football fans needed to more actively participate when watching games, not just sit there passively spectatinh. Atmosphere and the fans make up half of the football experience. Take the atmosphere away, and it's a little bit boring to be honest....
E all seater stadiums were the biggest killer as well as the more expensive tickets. Its difficult to get animated when you have to sit down! Saying that....ibrox has always had quite a good atmosphere...but i am sure it was better in the late 80s when Scottish football was buzzing. I say thatcas a dundee united fan and we played half the English national football team in a Scottish cup tie.ended up 2-2 but i swear the rangers fans were jumping out of their seats for throw ins . The atmosphere was incredible. The best I have witnessed and I am 50vand been to Brazil, Italy , Holland etc.
This might be the most bbc three doc ever
english prem fans are custumers, we are ultras!
‘Posh’ flats in newham 😂😂😂
Forza Arezzo
Come in San Benedetto..
As a 57yr old Celtic fan I really miss the football of the 70s and 80s, seemed more real and more passionate.
I'm notva celtic fan but hibs 61 year old fan miss those days atmosphere etc 3pm ko every sat, chucked it years ago now watch east of scotland fitty more fun and enjoyment
Scottish football is so so bad Celtic no youngsters coming through only japans and Korean players looks. Like with a odd old guy that was crap in England lol 😂 rangers with a conference side still nearly winning the title so bad
Ive been around Europe watching games in Germany, Italy and Spain predominantly and the way the fans are treated at those clubs is far different to the money hungry machine that is the Premier League. A lot of people simply can't afford the financial commitment to head to support their local professional sides and are turning more to non-league which is a much better day out I find.
Once a hammer always a hammer
W Ultras Italia 🇮🇹✝️🇮🇹
My club Preston North End, beat West ham home and away in the championship not that long ago then bobby zamora ruined my life.
Deepdale is the oldest continuous used football ground in the world and is actually re designed and modelled off of an Italian stadiums architecture.
We had the national football museum but it left for old Trafford because they are a "bigger club".
All I can say history is history, and sometimes its not best to change, especially when society wants to take tradition out of your proud club.
Upton Park, the old Wembley, Highbury etc.. the list goes on.
I'm only 40 and the "new modern fan" wouldn't even know of these once great stadiums.
As a Forest fan I completely agree with how this guy feels. I've seen football in Europe and it's a different level. The English game is passionless, bland, safe and sanitised
Bet he was in Prague for the Europa Conference final.
Love this brothers passion,Salud my West Ham bredren From the States
12% fluent
How i feel about being a Arsenal fan and now prefer to support Rangers
Do you still support Arsenal ?
@@plsehansen9071 Arsenal, fans are good fans but it’s changed since. They changed stadiums but they do have flares a lot tbf
The big one or little one.....😅😅😅I'm Scottish
“I can never change my colours”
“I moved to Italy because they built a stadium I didn’t like”
But but I’m passionate 😂
West Ham season tickets are 310
Now Millwall is still a Proper club
Be a lot cheaper to get a train across town to Selhurst park!
Theres far to many kids and mums at the football these days eating candy floss and wearing silly hats 😂
It would be easier to wander over to Brisbane Road to watch Leyton Orient... and if it weren't for the old animosity you could go south of the river to the Den.
U should have join Catania
Is this guy a parody? 5 years on and I still don’t know.
He's acting, but you're not supposed to know that
Whats the name of this guy?
Wait, so my guy didn't like the hammers moving stadium and buying tickets for extra, but he has to go to Italy for loads, buy a house (for loads) and buy a ticket, still cheaper but everything combined is super expensive lol, buy a house near the stadium lol but I can still kinda get his mindset and I respect this guy tho.
*_(_* You can also just switch to lower division teams lol, it's much more fun there *_)_*
IS west Glam still worth me support ?
Know what you mean,I've transferred to Aldershot
😭
English football crowds have become an audience now rather than fans. While the ball is in play it's almost silent at times similar to tennis. It's all down to the high ticket prices pricing out working class fans. Fans expect to be entertained for the price their paying
Every Italian football champion: czcams.com/video/PW0xRFHPKW0/video.html
Who do think will be the next winner?
Gammons starting young these days
So are drones who parrot Globalist phrases like 'gammon'.. predictable nihalist hive-minders
Why not find like-minded West Ham fans and start your own group?
Is this a mockumentary?
I thought that a few seconds in, but I think he just loves football and the atmosphere and the Olympic stadiums don’t have it , Berlin stadium is the same
A couple of years ago, I drove along Green Street, and the area looked different now that the staduim had been knocked down and replaced with new flats. Globalism has taken over Football is England, rising ticket prices has changed the atmospheric at matches.
AREZZO OVUNQUE
I can understand him, but not a fan of drums and megaphones
Football has gone from a sport aimed mainly at working class men to highly sanitised family entertainment. That obviously has pros and cons. I don't go to games anymore but on the rare occassion that I do it's all about suspending reality for an afternoon and enjoying the company.
Greetings from Juventus Ultras Hamburg (Germany) 🏳️🏴🇮🇹🇩🇪
Juve merda
Dresser, got all the clobber but don’t wanna get involved when it comes on top
This kid has never really experience football at Upton Park in its heyday. I get what he's chasing, and yeh, leaving the boleyn was heartbreaking in many, many ways but you have to take the rough with the smooth as any born and bred westham fan knows...I'd be interested to know if he's still messing about in Italy now we are having our most successful season ever and could be playing in Europe next season...hes in danger of being cast as a fair weather fan and no one needs them mugs...
more connection, is it really west ham, liverpool or arsenal when everyone is from africa and south america
Yeah definitely. That's the joy of football now. As an arsenal fan I've been away in the US and in Europe and have gone to watch games at arsenal meeting local pubs. It's amazing.
Football should be bigger than the local area . What is the problem with it ?.
@@johnh5660 my problem is I just don't have any connection or care at all about aload of foreigners kicking a ball, the same as the England and France teams why do I want to go watch people who have no real connection to the area
@@johnh5660 bakayo saka is not a Englishman why tf would I want to see him representing my country
@@Bean9211 he was also born in Ealing London . English. I'm confused.
@@johnh5660 i was born in china, try telling the Chinese I'm a chinaman, you will get a billion laughs in your face. Two Africans can't breed a Englishman. Being born somewhere doesn't make you that nationality. The word nationality comes from Latin for natal, meaning of the same genes. of course your confused, you are a typical football fan
I feel he could find the same kind of support in teams with smaller stadiums or outside London. He probably doesn't want to support other English teams so that he doesn't betray West Ham United. All he's doing is sending money out of the UK economy.
Elite I'm sure the UK can deal without 900 quid.
Yh don’t know why he don’t go non league tbh
You’re West Ham till you die or you’re not West Ham at all. 🤷🏼♀️⚒️