my FASTEST and BEST HANDLING truck gets an all new engine
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- the 2nd Gen Syclone project is coming along, and this time we build its engine to prepare it for a new life under the hood of my fastest, best handling, and lightest truck I've built. While I do like the idea of staying original to the syclone concept and doing a turbo V6, I just can't stand how they sound, plus I have an engine that's perfect for my needs.
Stage 3 truck Cam I used
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Individual Rocker Arms
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Valvespring kit
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some rare drivetrain parts to make the 2nd gen syclone AWD system work
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what do you think the 2nd gen syclone should get for a power adder? Turbo or Supercharger?
Turbo. Done.
Under bed turbo !!!
After the orange LSA build, I think you should show how a smaller turbo that spools fast would do on a autocross truck
Supercharger
Twin turbo!
"i don't like the sound of a V6." Finally, someone said it. This truck is going to haul the mail.
You can get v6s to sound like v8s if you know what you're doing. 90% bolt on kits don't do that. A straight 6 you can't get to sound like a v8 or at least I haven't been able too.
Literally everybody says that lol
@@wkjeeping9053Why even bother, if you want it to sound rawty get a V8
6 cylinder engines never sound like a crossplane v8
a 3 cylinder can sound like a 6 a 6 can sound like a 12 and a 8 like a 16 with some manifold manipulation and or crank degree changes they can sound similar but never exactly the same
@@wkjeeping9053 might as well get a four-cylinder sound like a V6 😂
Pat will be so proud of you for degreeing that cam.
LOL
I built my 05 RCSB AWD, 80E, NP149, Turbo 6.0 because of your COPO truck. I also put it all on youtube because i thought your channel was really cool. Thanks for all the inspiration boss.
You forgot to give us your you tube channel.
@@stevenmcinnis8105 brother, I literally commented from it! @alecaagaard
@@stevenmcinnis8105just click on his profile picture and it will go to his channel.
@@stevenmcinnis8105 ...just click his name?
“It’s my truck and I can name it whatever I want…” 😂 Can’t argue with that 😁
I want to do this to my Blazer so bad but... life is in the way.
I feel that
Same here bad thing is It got wrecked but I'll find another one
Just tell life to get the hell out of your way. There is work that needs to be done damn it !!
I worked in a very large 24 bay shop. Each bay had its own pressure washer. Both hot and cold water. It was so nice being able to steam clean an engine bay before doing any major work. I was the guy that did all the big jobs. Engines, transmissions, clutches. Most of my work was extremely dirty so having a pressure washer on hand, ready to go at the flip of a lever was fantastic. I actually hated working at that shop. It's too bad because it was set up very nicely, money was good, management was the absolute worst i ever encountered working as a mechanic.
So 3/8 impact wise, ive had a snap on for about 6 years, and it has been nothing but a pain. Replaced once under warranty, "rebuilt" once on my dime, only to get it back with the same problem (they blamed the battery even though it worked in every other tool except that one) and finally, after much back and forth they gave me another one that worked, and its been good for the last 3 years. But if i had it to do over, I'd probably do a Milwaukee, but only after watching the torque test channel to find out if the quality is still up to par.
I have an old, like 2010 ish snap on 1/2 inch and it’s been awesome, I do agree that the 3/8 is meh.
I've owned 2 Syclone's and have a Typhoon . subscribing . don't disappoint us !
Gonna do my best to make you proud!
Thats crazy ! I remember when these trucks first came out. I was in Pennsylvania at the drag races and General Motors had their booth set up. They had both the Syclone and the GMC counterpart on display. It was the first I had heard of this truck. I should have bought one brand new when they were a reasonable price. I just couldn't pull the trigger on that deal. I couldn't justify the price, even than, because I could easily put a small block in an S10 at a fraction of the price. I've built 5 small block S10s. This is the one truck I kick myself for not buying. A good one is worth an absolute fortune now.
your OCD really speaks to me. That level of organization is so satisfying.
‘Psyclone’
You’re welcome. 😂
Stay tuned called his that.
Your so right about 400 flywheel hp being nothing to write home about but I've built many of those 5.3's for penny's compared to a SBC with all the goodies, many with injection and a half dozen with carbs they leave a SBC in the dust for penny's and will give a BBC a run for their money. Good catch on the pushrods and rocker wear, I always replace worn rocker body's like that and add a trunion kit and a set of lightweight pushrods, sometimes I add a set of LS6 springs. My current daily driver is a '68 C10 with a cammed 5.3 with long tubes and a 4L60 I converted from 4wd to 2wd and it doesn't have to apologise for anything on the street. My current project is a stock 2009 4.8 Swapped into a '88 S10 with a messaged T5 and a 3.42 posi. All it has is a TBSS manifold and a 90mm throttle body running a set of reclocked outlet LS6 exhaust manifolds with a homemade 2.25 into a 3" exhaust, yup, it looks like fun. We'll see how long the T5 lasts but if it's as much fun as I think it will be a cam and a TKO will be a no brainer.
Happy father's day to all the dad's on here!
LT I really enjoy your videos. I always learn something new and I really look forward to watch what you come up with next. Thank you very much for Al you do. PS happy Father’s Day.
Hell, yeah LS George shirt
Hell, yeah, BROTHER
When I was doing bodywork full time I loved my Matco cordless tools. I had the 3 in variable speed polisher, 1/4 impact and a 1/4 ratchet batteries were all interchangeable with each other and they hold a great charge.
LT I've been a fan since the truck show on power nation, It's way cool (and very smart imo) you own and operate your own shop I'm so happy for you! I wish you tons of success and I wish I lived close enough to frequent your establishment. Thanks for making great content
I appreciate that a ton, and thanks for watching over the years!
Well said
Everything you’re doing to the S10 and the 5.3, is everything I want to do to my truck. I have a nearly Identical version of your awd stepside and I’m just barely figuring out what I want to do with it. My truck is a 02 stepside single cab z71. I want roughly 600-700 hp out of the 5.3 in it when I’m done. I have so many plans for it. I am studying your videos so much so I can do everything you’re doing for myself! Thank you so much for making these videos! I know you go all out for your shop and YT! Keep up the amazing work!
This will be an awesome project! Definitely subscribed 👊🏽
I I'm really looking forward to seeing the next video on this
Very informative video. I’ll be doing similar with my LS 4.8 here soon. These fine details will really help.
Brother that thing was clean!!!
Love this video, I do a lot of the things the same way and use a lot of the same tools in my home shop. Makes me feel better about the way I do things. I'll be curious to see what you do for a power adder, I see the engine bay creating some "packaging issues." But I know that with your skill set, you will make it happen.
😎 subbed. I have a 2003 Sonoma that I’m swapping to a 5.3. Motor is almost done. Little here, little there… been at it for a year.
Your parts washer is nice to have they clean really well and absolutely clean every time you use them
Do it once by doing it right . Such care and precision. Great job .
176K mile lifters and trays? It's coming back apart.
Awesome project! I just picked up an 87 s10 with a 383 stroker.....the engine builder claims 600 hp with the shot of nitrous lol. Its all set up for drag racing, roll cage and all. Cant wait to get it down to the drag strip! People might think im crazy but i want to put my 51 chevy body on this s10 chassis lol
Judging by the music on your radio I think I'd have a good time hanging out in your shop lol.
Should definitely add links to where u got some of the special tools you used on this motor
Also I did the same swap in my 98 jimmy 4x4 and the v6 4l60 will not die after 20k miles of abuse . The 7.5 rear end didn’t break but it would have eventually . I put a new posi in and the stock centre pin was wore in half .
woo hoo this is what i’ve been waiting for !!!
Beware of the blue felpro gaskets. A few years back I had several repeat customers bring cars back for valve covers leaking that I had replaced gaskets on 2-3 years earlier with the blue silicone type gaskets. I have since went to mahle and victor reinz and haven't had a repeat yet.
cool build
Make sure to check your new knock sensor. I've had trouble with new Delco knock sensors recently
I had trouble with a new Delphi knock sensor myself. Appears they have changed the origin of manufacture.
I love this truck project
i have my great grandmother 66 Chevelle 2 door post, best thing i did was LS it. thanks for the video, i know how long they take to film and edit.
When LT says, “ I’m not gonna do that much to it” take it with a grain of salt lol, he’s still a horsepower junkie!!!
Always good to use a new cam retaining plate the old seals are always flat and can leak
Depends on your goals for the truck. For street driving and drag race a turbo will be better. For lapping a supercharger will be easier to do as you don't have to deal with turbo lag out of a corner and you get the horsepower exactly when you hit the pedal. A centrifugal supercharger like a procharger would be close to a syclone while keeping the throttle response of an NA engine.
As you know, any time you see a oil issue where something looks like it was starved of oil, you should replace the oil pump, the oil bypass, spring andy oil galley seal. And you could have pulled the heads and put better head gaskets and A. R p headbolts to help with the boost later and just leave the ring gap issue alone. But also for a truck like that, it would have been nice to find AL92R. A 6.0, aluminum block marketplace. You can get them each for about eight hundred dollars
If you have the means, supercharger would be neat. Like a smaller version of the copo truck
Would’ve liked to hear it from the outside once you got it working🫠
Sounded pretty good for what I could hear though!
I think the Gen III had the regular bolt on the cam retaining plate and the Gen IV had the countersunk bolt.
I wouldn't use a cam from a motor with higher compression because you'll end up with less vacuum from basically cam overkill but it'll be just fine when you bolt on the snail.
I was so hoping that you would use a 5.3 and add the blaster to it ..freaking cool .....I have a L33 in my 05 sierra and love the power and mpg
May you win the lottery and bless the world with tons of trucks the go brrr
I ended up finding an L33 for my Jeep build. Wanted the alum to save on weight as well.
Nothing really beats a dirt cheap lm7 build. It's the new generation 350. I still woulda held out for an Lh6 or something outta a trailblazer. All those where aluminum 5.3 or 6.0s
I'm not sure why I don't see this enough but a shop vac is a great way to suck out pretty much all of the coolant
My LM7 with about 160, 000 miles on it was so dirty a home carwasher wouldnt even get it clean despite being sprayed down with diesel.
it got cleaner but wasnt even close to be able acepting paint anywheres.
i was just happy to get it to a nonscrapeable type clean, still dirty but goo nuff
You could always put a big block in it and be on the same weight class a cleetus’ mullet
Rear mount turbo that 5.3 lm7 that would be a true sleeper my man ! Would help weight the back down some and take it out the front like a traditional turbo.. rear mount turbo that s-10!!!!
Supercharge it. Just use an aftermarket whipple or a Magnuson. Unless you want the factory top
I’m taking supercharger more so because it would be a smaller cleaner package. Would love to hear PROS or cons
Pros turbo go Stu tu tu cons supercharger doesn’t go Stu tu tu
Pros of Supercharger - easier to install, cons - depending on which one they're more expensive. Turbo - more power capability, cost efficient for max power levels a stock internal LS can handle. Cons more fabrication and packaging. As far as "cleaner" it doesn't matter LT is OCD and whichever he chooses will be clean. 😂
@@lsingleton77facts 😂😂😂😂😂
I had no idea the rocker arms had that much stuff that could get in the engine
Back to the 5.3 ahhh. I suggested this a few months back. It's the greatest small displacement u can turbo with freat results. Perfect 4 cyclone remake of modern days. 👌
Good thing u see it my way .🤪 Auw ,🤗sweet vindication 🤣😂😅
The iron block is alot more stronger material wise. If I planned on turbos or anything like that the best would have been an iron block. But I've also heard from guys that do no prep racing, that the cathedral port heads help spoil up the turbos better
Also should replace gasket on cam thrust plate because it can cause oil pressure problems too
Either.. Both! Haha! Another great video LT! I bought a few new tools, after watching you use them. You're a good salesman. What melling oil pump did you go with? I used a HV on my tired 212K engine when I did a cam & heads (with supporting mods / replacement - upgraded parts) Just wondering, as this is a hot debate! I have about 42psi at warm idle, and she get's right up to 80 pretty quickly. Many folks argue against HV, but I feel like it's a good way to go, depending on the setup.
Very cool, I’d go lsa
Go with the best of both, centrifugal blower.
Turbo!!!
Blazer next!
This is why the GEN III engine is the best overall for hot rodding. And remember the cathedral port heads build torque at a lower rpm compared to the rec port heads. Be that the rec ports make more top end power, they don't make the power lower in the power band.
Hey LT, love this project!! Do you happen to know if the factory LS truck accessory drive will work in the S10 or do you need a shorter aftermarket drive system?
Looking forward to this build. I picked up a 2004 Jimmy. Canadian version. Rebuilding the v6 right now to be my daily for a couple years. But I already have a cam’d L33 5.3. What transmission are you going to go with?
Hey @LawrenceTolman, I believe you knew Joe Elmore. I heard of his passing yesterday. He was a great guy, and I remember watching him on TV for decades.
I guess if you are not going to boost that motor then whatever but you are there and a set of head gaskets and bolts if you are into that or if not just reuse them but I'd check the ring gap if you are going to do anything and you can inspect it an clean it up make sure the oil ring is not all gunked up
A 400 horse truck is for driving in a full size. Fun in an s10. Hell, my 6.2 2012 makes 500 at the crank and embarrasses other cars and trucks. That will be a fun build
I’m so curious to see how that does NA. My AWD truck weighing 4500 lbs and 3500 ft did a 12.7 NA.
That's a cool stand/dolly for the engine. Is that for LS engines only or does it fit others?
Wouldn't be a 5.3 without some broken exhaust studs
The LM7 is a good choice.
Late comment LT but I agree with not doing any bearings or ring gap. I would have replaced the lifters to match the cam as I was taught that way but that's just me. Lifters have gotten insanely expensive in the past four years and honestly I don't blame you. Stock lifters will work just fine.
Also LT, is this truck DBW or DBC?
2nd Gen Psycho!
Can you link the speciality tools you are using for the springs and rockers?
Are you running a factory style harness, so all your gauges work ?? Or modify the stock truck harness for your build ? Or a custom harness made for your s10 LS swap ??
I have an l92 in the bed of my truck right now😂😂
What was that hand sanding block you were using to make sure the timing cover & front of engine flat?
& what grit?
Supercharged it like the orange truck.
Are those the prone to crack Castech 706 heads? The markings looked like it is.
I mean, I applaud you for the idea. But 178K and not even considering a new bottom end? Not even bearings? You're so close and the engine's out, why not just take care of it now?
Mainly because this isn’t the “final” engine. I plan on building a 6.2 or 408 stroker in the near future to replace the 5.3
@@LawrenceTolman Ah! I see your rationale now... Good man!
The way those rockers looked I would have put lifters in no way I'm putting a cam in without lifters
I know it sounds stupid but my awesome fast truck build is gonna be a 94 Toyota 2wd reg cab pickup with gm 6 0 or 6.2 goal is about 700-800 hp
That sounds like a ton of fun to me. I love mini trucks
I have crew cab sas swapped have l33 for it but I acquired l92 for it… score
Is my understanding right that you degree the cam to find out the built in advance , so that when tuning you take that into account ? So on the lap top 20 would actually be 25?
No, spark timing and the tuning process has nothing to do with setting the cam timing. I degree the cam so I know/verify that it’s installed where it should be or where I want it to be. To me, it’s a step kinda like checking your oil after filling it. You just want to make sure it’s correct.
I have a 2003 6.0 LQ9 out of an Escalade, complete, that I would sell you for $1600, $2000 with the 4L65 & AWD transfercase
3:49 Fries are done
What did you use to clean the engine? Currently building a 1961 Chevy bel air and the engine needs a good cleaning due to leaking gaskets. Any recommendations?
Put a watts link rear in it
is the ls7 the biggest stock cam from an ls engine, and how would it fair in a bolt on 5.3 ?
Thumbs up at 0:30.
Yeah when the little Chevy S10 came out they were made to handle better than a Ferrari😂😂😂
I'm shocked you're not putting in new lifters, 170k I thought that was a no brainer?
Thanks Lt,i wanna see what it takes to put a 5.3 in an S10,i have a 01 reg cab in good shape,just wanna get a bit more kick than the 2.2.
Its very easy with a 2wd.... 4wd takes more work which is what I have.
@@DaInfamous0ne mines a 2wd,i plan on rollin a 5 speed an a 3.73
LT, give can you provide the name and part number of the tool to remove the damper? thanks buddy.
I wanted an aluminum block since I couldn’t get an aluminum 6.2 I got an iron block 5.3 instead? How about an aluminum 5.3?
Why not a turbo on the smaller side to compare to your LSA build you had on the channel a while back
Whats a good gasket kit to buy for a 5.3
My LQ4 build in my truck and most LS that I see do that to the rockers and pushrods. It's weird.
LT just spell it out differently being it's a clone call it the "Cy-Clone"
Pretty sure Tony Angelo already did that.