2020 Yamaha R6 Unrestricted ECU FLASH and Dyno Tune w/ Modified Stock Exhaust- Moore Mafia
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Chris, it's absolutely night and day the feel of the bike pre and post tune. The "falling on its face" feeling in low RPM while climbing is almost non existent now and that little vibration between 6500-7000 is 95% better. You absolutely knocked it out of the park. What I can say to anyone who reads the comments, obviously just looking at the before and after numbers, it's not the huge and flashy jump that you will usually get with the bigger bikes, but owning the bike, and the before and after feel, the pick up, acceleration, responsiveness, decell... across the board, it's a brand new bike. Oh, and the reason there wasn't a true baseline number to start from is because a couple weeks after getting the bike i took it to Chris for him to just take some of the restrictions out and add a little more fuel across the board, knowing that i would be back after break in since it couldn't be put on the dyno yet. As for the exhaust, i fully intend on getting a real and true slip on. This was more of a "hey, I wonder what this would sound like and do...." kinda things. Anyway, thanks again Chris. I'm sure after a few more mods I'll be back up there again, seeing what else we can pull out of the little 600 that could!
i think that 5 hp gain is what most 600's see, even with a full system. a better slip on for style, sure, but you probably got the most out of the bike for what you spent already honestly
@@brandoloudly9457 I took the bike to him a couple weeks after I got it for him to just to a very basic, very general "tune". It was more of a "I know we can't dyno it or run it hard yet, so can you just do a couple tweaks to the stock tune until I break it in" kinda thing. So that's why he said that we really didn't have a base number to go off of. I'm guessing from stock it's probably closer to the 8-10 max hp gain area. We were both kinda disappointed that we really didn't know the true numbers, since the first pull he did already had some tinkering done. It was 100% worth it for the feel though. Numbers be d@mned, it's crazy how much smoother it feels
@@rollred1995 oh dont get me wrong. 5hp on the smaller bikes (i also have an r6) is a big difference. 10 hp is a huge difference
@@brandoloudly9457 oh 100%, it's a massive difference. I just meant that some people will only focus on a "small" number and not really know how huge a difference that makes.
@@wudntulike2no32 it's more about looks honestly. I agree that it sounds incredible, really can't believe how good it sounds. It's been tossed around to wrap the exhaust or paint it or something. At this point anything that's changed will be mostly for cosmetic effect
"not a lot of money" *2020 R6 and getting it tuned*
I mean, he’s talking about the exhaust
He’s no speaking about the bike. He’s speaking about the exhaust he made from the parts he bought on eBay. Get a clue brainiac
Well if he wanted an R1M but settled for an R6, he definitely went the low buck route. Everything is relative my friend; an for what a capable machine you get the modern 600s from all the big 4 metric brands are indeed quite a value. You basically are ready to get on a race track and ride for 10-12k fresh out of a dealership. People spend that much on dirt bikes these days if you think about it that way.
maybe he spent his earnings or savings for a brand new bike cos he's not fond of buying 2nd hand bikes? full system exhaust can be expensive, what's so hard about it?
Is a 600cc expensive?
Homemade exhaust for the win on that one!
Sounds good as hell if you ask me 👍🏾
mtb supertroll why buy a bike to be cheap? you gain horse power and save a ton of weight with a full titanium exhaust, wouldn’t have to worry about rust either and it’s also about supporting mods like intake, sprocket kits, tires .. all working together .. I wouldn’t sell myself short
@@MADLITS1K that's not being cheap, that called being smart and saving a load of money for mods that will net more gains for the 💰. Example... You buy a full exhaust and tune. I fab up a modified stock exhaust, tune, and then take my left over cash and buy a set of used BST's... Will you outrun me?????
bacchus thompson maybe? That comes down to different factors lol maybe my tires are better .. maybe I’m a better rider ... maybe I’m shorter and weigh less than you??? idk man it just seems like a cheap thing to do to me but then again I come from a background of messing around with cars so I personally don’t think anything for a motorcycle is expensive. 4k or less you can get very nice bolt ons tune and flash and have a weapon in a week.. vs 4k or less in a car is a few carbon fiber parts and suspension, depending on the car maybe you could buy some wheels lol it just seems like a cheap meaningless thing to do to hack a stock exhaust when you can get a full titanium for like $1700 or at the very least do a decent slip on for what 500-600 bucks?
@@MADLITS1K I feel you... It all depends on the purpose of the bike when you really break it down. If it's a competitive bike, then no I'm not going to do a hack job on the stock exhaust... I will buy a good condition "USED" full system though. For a everyday bike though I'm going the same route of the "Modded" stock exhaust, it's going to give you the same gains & sound (maybe) as a Slip-On. I believe in going as fast as possible for as less money as possible, that's car or bike for me. All the brand labels in the world don't mean anything when you get smacked by the DIY guy 🤷🏾♂️
Dude your 1 hell of rider. You're adjust properly to the conditions and smoke the competition...best of luck brother
Keep the rubber down and go fast!
Definitely a sweet looking bike,and the homemade pipe sounds better than some aftermarket ones imo.
Love the ingenuity of the owner. Honestly at first I was like oh great a guy has money for a brand new R6 and NEEDs and exhaust so bad but can’t afford it so squid life hackjob etc etc. Upon consideration though he didn’t just hack anything up and really did a good job which I deeply respect because doing things yourself is just awesome. I also highly doubt his engine cares the pipe it exhales through came from EBay. if the bends are right and flow is there who cares!
it's an old trick in the R6 community, it's been around for generations. I did the same thing, I can definitely afford a new exhaust, but I don't want to pay $1,000 for some bent metal with an off the shelf muffler that they slap on every model exhausts are so expensive with little value to them.
Chris you're a great racer and a very gòod tuner. Much love from Aizawl, India 🇮🇳
600cc supersport bikes were forgotten and that is partly why they haven't made any more power for years.
Especially out here in the states where a 1000cc is now a starter bike lol
Yamaha owners knows what he did lol. Crazy the size muzzle the r6 has. Good video as always.
what he did?
@@Afdaser 🤷
press the like without seeing a second of the video !!! You are a genius engine maniac!!! hi from colombia bro!!! always see your vids!!!
The crippling ETV is horrible these days. Amazing what unrestrictioning the ecu does... Especially in lower gears for some bikes
Good video
Yea my 2020 had timing and throttle cuts in 1-5 gears from the factory. Also new cars and trucks do the same; almost all major brands include some type of torque management software to limit power and essentially save on parts and therefore warranty claims. That and fuel economy & emissions concerns are the main reasons you can pickup 20-30 wheel HP on an otherwise stock NA car with just a tune. Boosted stock cars even more so.
Good luck this weekend ! We're watching! Safe travels
Chris is going to fast this ain’t fair! 😢😢 gtfo..I hope you go 6.31 this weekend! Prob make you and Jeremy go stock wheelbase next
That 2020 r6 is sleeping good job on finding the ignition but I hope no one goes to far with it
Good luck you guys have this, can’t wait to see the Race!!!
Can’t wait to get my 09 R1 tuned by you man. A buddy of mine you did his R1 and his new zx10R. Stay blessed and stay safe.
See…what I loved about my R6 was.. nothing…nothing…nothing..10k rpm feels like a 125cc 2 stroke hitting the power band coming on the pipe.. love that shit
When will the 2020 R1 be unlocked?
Great question..alot of people want to know, there is hp/tq to unlock on the 2020R1.
I’m on the fence about getting one because of it. I don’t want a stock bike. I’ll go buy a S1000RR if they can’t get unlocked.
@@RadDadisRad I hear ya, I'm buying a 2020 black raven edition, but I'm assuming they will unlock it eventually otherwise sales will go south. All the other euro5 bikes are unlockable afaik. New BMW is awesome...are you looking at the m edition?
I know a good locksmith. He can unlock anything!
I have 2020 R1 AND I CANT WAIT FOR THE FLASH
Another 👍 video Thanks Chris ."every day's a school day" Best of luck for the weekend 🤞 and bring that🏆 back MooreMafia No1 has got a certain ring to it
I think if he can afford a 2020 R6, he should be able to afford at least a decent Slip-on to go with the "eBay special" cat delete. That's just my opinion of course. I don't think it's worth all that time trying to hack up and modify the stock can to save $500 or $600 bucks.
That R6 is a pretty sick looking bike, but if I'm being honest, I'd go with the 2020 ZX6R alllll day long!!
To save $500 or $600 to put toward other mods to increase performance further... I'll do that everyday of the week
bacchus thompson dudes always wanna go with a name brand, without understanding that a no name does R and D and things work out better sometimes. Stop spending other people’s money to suit you, would be my advice and opinion to those people
@@bacchusthompson5834 I guess to each their own. I think aftermarket exhausts definitely increase performance and sound and just look great too! You can actually spend as little as 200-300 on a slip on and not have to worry about modifying the stock one and make life easier on yourself.
I put a full Yoshimura Alpha exhaust on my 2019 Ninja 650 and it made such a difference. That is before an old lady smashed into me and totalled my bike and effed me up bad!!
@@mrmuncheez374 I'm sorry to hear that... I pray you have a full, healthy, & speedy recovery man 🙏🏾
When it comes to Slip-Ons, they really only give you sound and nothing more. Yes they do reduce restriction that the "Stock" Pipe creates, but they also run off of the stock piping from the stock header. There's really no diameter increase. So, if you delete the cat & for example put a "Race Baffle" in your stock pipe... You have basically the same thing for little to nothing. The quest at that point is the sound you want, so you have to experiment.
As a big race fan the R6 IS the bike of champions, in BSB, WSS. the only series I see it doing not so strong in is the American support races. Were in only wins 85% of the time.these are just figures from Tv watching this year because of COVID and staying safe. Love the sound from the cut down exhaust 👍
An old timer who worked at my shop years ago told me a story about a roller door that came off the track and knocked over a row of tanks. He said they each became a missile.
Best mfing shop around. Im lucky i live in tsylors right up the street. Good people here. Love moore mafia... chris does all my work.... stock busas cant touch my ass
.. gsxr1k cant touch my ass.
None yall can touch my ass, why? Cause i got moore mafia working on my shit.
"This customer doesn't have alot of money...". Proceeds to buy a 2020 R6😂👍The heart wants what the heart wants, boys.
Lol, he said the customer doesn't have a lot of money IN the exhaust. Cause, no, I don't. It was more of a "hey, this thing looks identical at a third of the price, not much to lose" kinda thing. And the cut in half muffler was more pure curiosity. Sounds incredibly honestly, but I want the cleaner look of a true aftermarket slip on so it's not going to be long until the "science experiment" goes away lol
@@rollred1995 Ahhh, I see. I must have misunderstood! But regardless, it sounds awesome and the bike looks very very clean, man, congratulations! Hope you get plenty of happy miles on it!
@@rollred1995 Your exhaust would probably help you with the cops also since it's stock, they can't give you shit for that.
We were all honestly a little shocked at how clean it sounded. The biggest difference came with the cat delete though. That's the biggest sound killer. And thank you. Absolutely love the bike
@@rollred1995 Just a follow up question - would you say those gains were noticable after the tune and if so, would you say it is a sizeable gain or not so much?
Can't wait to see the WIN video. This is your weekend !
PS - Front wheel cam rules
Shout out zx14 nation in the background lol
Bro you are gonna hold that world record. I promise. 😊
Had my 2008 R6 tuned in NJ.. Power Commander with complete flash, full akropovic titanium exhaust, race sprockets, race air intake… it made 129hp at the wheel on dyno.. the R6 has so much more capability than it comes with from the factory!
Great vid. Especially explaining the mapping. That exhaust sounds really good. I would love to have you map my 07 GSXR 1000. Keep making those great videos. Appreciate ya!
Yamaha commercial: Buy for looks Not for Power.
😂😂😂
Thanks! Very informative. That exhaust mod was pretty cool! Didn't recognize it at first
@MooreMafia you'll be doing my 2015 R6 with ecu flash and tune once I get my full Toce exhaust
I gotta send you mine & let you hook all restrictions & get rid of em & tune it ty for the great content 🤙🏼
I did the exact same thing with the exhaust on my 2012. Sounded awesome
Hey bro. If you flash the ecu can you add a power commander on top of that to add even more horsepower
Beej might be a world champion corvette driver but he’s not a world champion corn hole player. Ask him if he wants a rematch this weekend 😂
Chris moore you are so awesome bro i love watching all your videos and i honestly am going to bring you my bike when i get a new one also would love to chat with you on what you think would be best for me if you have any insight that would be great
Love you man made my morning bro.
Keep the great content coming bro.
Just bought my fist r6 all be calling you this week lol
👍💪👍💪
That chick fil a his the spot they got the best lemonade
R6 looks and sounds really good!!
I had a Honda winner 150cc out here in Vietnam, ecu , airbox gutted and K&N filter and exhaust, and upgraded intake and exhaust valves and spring , nets a MASSIVE gain. Stock is about 11.7 whp and with those upgrades, jump to 19whp. That's over 35% more power. How come most 600 class bikes only net around 5whp ? I checked out all brands of bikes and most of them net barely any increase (not saying the increase isn't felt , just saying why does a small 150cc net 35% plus performance when a 600 only gets like 3%)
Master a question if you allow me, when performing the TUNE on the ECU, do you deactivate the lambda probe and the AIS system? Or do you perform the TUNE with these systems installed on the motorcycle? thank you very much !!!
I'd really like to know as well.
I installed block off plates prior to getting the tune. If you don't, you really won't get true numbers. He also unplugged the O2 sensor for the tune and disabled both in the computer during the tune. Hopefully that answers your question
@@rollred1995 hats off to you for that "Stock" muffler Mod... Arguably one of the best exhaust I've heard on a R6 👊🏾
@@bacchusthompson5834 lol, it's kinda funny. I figured i was going to be WHOLLY blasted on here for the exhaust (we all know how some can be online) but it has been the complete opposite. I appreciate all the comments and compliments. So, thank you!
gr8 vid as always chris, thanx for taking the time to make it, Good luck this weekend bro, really sucks how XDA changes rules mid season, my guess is your just too quick, you would have smoked teasley if you hadn't smoked your tire, no dis respect to him at all
When you were looking at the maps did you look at the different map modes Map B Map Std and Map A?
Any gains from just a slip on and tune? I will probably leave the cat on. If I am going to delete the cat then I will do it right and get a full header.
I like to hear crosplain r6 Yamaha must change from flat to crossplain engine it will sound so much better and attract more people
The old chop a lop sounds sick , I need to email you about mine , I have two deciding questions , and I would much rather have you do it .
These are my favorite vids
Someone close to him drop off a ninja 1000 and get it tuned so I can send him my ecu. 😆 wish I wasn't so far away
Good luck this weekend! Can you add some weight to the front? BP has that special heavy front wheel spacer. $$$ Local mechanic says Yamaha motors have been exploding lately. Wondering about ignition timing. Seems like high advance at chopped throttle. For popping I assume?
Great video
That shit sounds great
#moonshine in Black Mamba-->#1
The ecu settings from the factory is literally just to get through the red tape lol
Dude y’all should make a tune for a Honda CB1000r NSC, my dyno tuner can’t properly tune my bike, and I’ve taken it back like 3 times 😭😭😭 the CB1000r community badly needs a good tune for our bikes!
🤔 wondering what has happened with this weekends racing 🏍️💨 Chris ???
I need an unrestricted xl hoodie bro. Lol.
Great vid Chris from a Yamahauler! Could you talk sometime about time to horsepower with the dyno chart? Give an idea how it would improve roll on performance? Good luck this weekend and hope to see u in Valdosta if the commie border restrictions allow me in the country!! 😁
And yes two master cylinders. That's all 😇😇😇
What computer program allows you to view and edit the ECU parameters? Does it require an add on like a Power Commander or can you directly edit the stock ECU? Thx in advance for your answer.
Watch the video in this link. It will answer all your questions.
Www.MooreMafia.com/ecu-flashing-service
What tire did that thing that have on it
The R6 has "A", "STD", and "B" modes. Which mode was the baseline and which mode was flashed?
Your the best
Hey! My idling on my Yamaha R6 2017 is flickering sometimes during different temperatures. Does it hurt the engine and is it enough to just modify the idling fuel/air ratio? My ECU is flashed by P3 Tuning. Thanks!
Hmm.. so anyway I can gleam some timing knowledge from you? I have the 17r6 with a Woolich. Not many folks up here in Canada play with this, even less where I am. My bike is race only....and I "thought" I removed all the restrictions. I have never touched the ignition as it scares me.... Any help would be appreciated.
If it is anything like the other maps ...they drop from the wanted value in the map (it should be 100… but drops to 85 in THE ECV map for example?)
Thanks
If you and Jeremy Teasly are able to be SOOOO far ahead of everyone else in the class, what are you guys doing that the others aren't able to do? Isn't that you've guys have sponsors? Larger budgets? Or.....?
Chick-fil-A is the secret sauce 🤔
The eBay special is pretty sick
It really did sound good. I was surprised!
So who’s bullshitting on the call out with Ricky? Been waiting for a while now to see the results, which I already know.
I'm not on Instagram or social networks, but 🤷🏻♂️ Where's Chris ??
Awesome thunbnail
You ever play around with an mt-10 on the dyno?
All about those good, cheap mods lol
can we get more info on this ebay exhaust? sounds amazing
Ikr
just about any cat delete pipe will sound the same, unless you do the same muffler mod as he did, yours won't sound the same
funny question can you guys flash and tune a 2018 ninja 650
Came here for Yamaha, got Suzuki for 4 minutes. 4:15 to skip Suzuki talk
Do you test other fuels such as vp u 4.4 or any others?
I wish I had a chris near me 😭
Have you done any Ecu flashing or tuning on triumph street triple rs?
For those of you who don't give 2 shits about drag racing, and are here for the R6, go to 4:16
What model dyno you got there? Is it the 250i?
I need to know if you can flash a ECU 2020 R1M
You ever tune carbureted bikes?
Does it hurt when shifting without using the clutch? Or do bikes have autoblip or whatever it called when you do that
Not at all, clutchless upshifting doesn’t harm the bike whatsoever. Clutchless downshifting doesn’t harm the bike either if done right, but you have to be extremely precise. Generally it’s just better to clutchless upshift and use the clutch for downshifting.
How did he modified that exhaust? Deym
Which bike is king Gsxr or R6
Which is better flash tune or pc5 what would you recommend
Keep watching my videos. Flashing is way better.
Suspension and brakes more bigger and exhaust just SC project or Austin racing. 😇😇😇
Does the r6 has quick shifter?
Where does the inch come out?
Still wanna see an mt09
I liked before i watched. R6 are R6y
Can you flash the ecu with tuning just by sending you my r6 ecu or do you need the bike too for both. Excuse my ignorance...
an ecu can always be flashed by having it sent in, but for the best of the best is always a custom tune on a dyno, cuz every bike is still ever so slightly different, especially if it's modified, you want it tuned for your specific mods.
@@gwot good point
My bike is a 04 cbr600f4i can you make any gains? Has a slip on, k&n and -1+2 520 kit..
Can't do a flash tune on them need a pc5
Can you hold the camera lower plz. I was getting dizzy AF the first few minutes of watching.
Hey how much $ for a r6 tune?
Need an 07 gsxr 600 ecu flash 😢
3:30, they are at least 3.
How come u sit on the bikes now not like u used to and stand on the side jw