Dune: Part 2 Ending Explained - How the Sequel Sets Up Dune Messiah
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- čas přidán 29. 02. 2024
- Dune is one of those epic sci-fi novels that’s just too big to capture in one movie properly. With Dune: Part 2 hitting theaters, we’ve finally gotten the complete story of Paul Atreides and his rise to power as the Lisan al Gaib. Or have we? House Atreides may have gotten its revenge by the end of the movie, but it’s clear there’s a lot more story to tell where Paul and his family are concerned.
With that in mind, let’s break down the ending to Dune: Part 2 and where it leaves characters like Timothée Chalamet’s Paul, Zendaya’s Chani, and Florence Pugh’s Princess Irulan. Where does the story go from here, and why does it appear that these movies are diverging from the books? Here’s everything you need to know about the possible future of the franchise.
Dune: Part 2 also stars Rebecca Ferguson, Josh Brolin, Stellan Skarsgård, Dave Bautista, Charlotte Rampling, Javier Bardem, Austin Butler, Christopher Walken and Léa Seydoux. The film is currently playing in theaters.
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Why is it surprising theres no post credit scene? This aint marvel cuh
😂 marvel dropped so many superhero movies dey got us in a credit scene chokehold
typical IGN logic, nowadays everyone on Tiktok can call themselves a 'movie critic'
This isn't a gang, blood
Not that Marvel did a bad job in their movies but i’m not speaking about the shitty ones.
Sorry cuh
Dune 2 does not have a post-credits scene because it doesn’t need one.
Because its not a comicbook movie
Post-credit scenes indicate a low quality product
Bcz it's not a movie for kids
💯
"Duncan Idaho will return"
Dune is the "impossible sci-fi book" to translate to film. Villeneuve did about as well as anyone could.
He’s the same genius responsible for the Sicario films. The best in the game right now.
@@madridforever933only the first one.
Sticking to the actual source material would have added only like 5 minutes. This was just something to appease todays politics. Funny though, Dune has it's own political montra that shows the reasons for not allowing such a thing to occur. It's very dissapointing on how far they strayed from the book. Reminds me of the Witcher. Dune Messiah is now going to be all kinds of screwed up and not match at all.
He did a great job with the filming. Then he ruined it by re-writing the end.
@@17planets89The ending is literally identical to the book, except it's made more obvious for the dumb nerds to see that Paul isn't a hero.
Billions will die in his holy war. Next movie will be brutal.
Yeah it won’t be about messiah
Messiah starts with a 12 year time jump so no you kinda won’t.
@@JAKEtheRAKE23He can make an intro exactly like Lotr did with the Last Alliance of Elves and Men to summarize the 12 year gap and bridge the 2 movies
@@kalencwil3924 more about why sometimes messiahs are bad
And depressing
Paul said to his mother that Chani will come to understand I’ve seen it. So I’m sure she will eventually come back
The emperors daughter becomes his wife only in name. He has two children with Chany
@oscairconnolly4716 and Chani descendants rule the world for thousand years, better than his father
@@oscairconnolly4716in the book, yes. here it makes no sense.
@@GubjenVOC is Leto one if them?
actually in the book they had 3. the first leto was killed by the saudaukar@@oscairconnolly4716
Mid and Post-credits scenes are killing cinema. I’m glad Villeneuve had the sense not to do them.
They’re killing cinema? Grow up
@@JAKEtheRAKE23You're right. They are making the audience dumber, not killing cinema.
How is it killing cinema? Genuine question
Bring back blooper reels
@@ThiccChoncchow does it make the audience dumber? It’s a way for people to stay and actually watch the credits you dunce.
If a movie gives you the chills and goosebumps non-stop through out the film, that's how you know they've created something magnificent. Bravo to the whole team and director.👏
Every scene with the vocals from the Gom Jabbar scene in part 1 is instant chills
My heart was beating like crazy during most of the movie
Did anyone else notice actor Everett McGill (the 1984 Dune's Stilgar) as the Sardukaur leader in the throne room when the Fremen break in? Great cameo!!!
What Really
If the movie ends with Paul having control of Arrakis wouldn't that mean that he has control of spice and therefore has control of the universe
You’re absolutely right! He controls it for about 12 years
Arrakis*?? Lol I'm assuming autocorrect did this
He controls the empire after the movie and the non believers are sent to paradise by the fremen under his name
Yes and only 3 groups can fight him
And not any of Houses 💀💀💀
Sweet deal for the non believers, what do the believers get?
The movie was astonishing
Mid asf
@@damienkun8786 yes, you truly are.
The studio would be smart to Green Light Dune Messiah as soon as possible while Dune is hot before it cools off like the MCU has cooled off.
The Mcu never "Cool off" they only kept producing bad films until Christmas a few months ago.
No, MCU appeals to the masses who just need entertainment. But we can wait for the Dune:Messiah as long as Villeneuve needs it.
The point is the third movie has not been approved yet, nothing to do with Villeneuve. That's what he means by green light it as soon as possible. @@mrpixelatedgod
@@lempollo6430 No, Villeneuve said scripting for the third movie has begun and he wants to take all the time to write the perfect screenplay for the third movie. He wants the movie to be perfect.
Yes, but it hasn't been green lit yet. The original comment is talking about getting it green lit. @@mrpixelatedgod
Alia ain't an adult in Messiah. She's like 14 years old.
Right? So the next one would have had to be 17-18 yrs after the 2nd movie to justify Anya Taylor Joy's casting.
She's thousands of years old
@@tracys169not really. She matures faster then an average human.
@@MasterGeek-mk5neher mind matured faster, but there isn’t any indication in the books her body did.
@ethancoster1324 At what age do you become an adult in Arrakis in years 10200+?
The Navegators' guild didnt even make it to the conversation floor to let the houses know why and how Paul is the new emperor. The Navegators were/are as important to the story as the emperor.
Glad you mentioned that. It’s pretty clear they carry the most influence but they’re not even brought in one time in this second film.
Yeah Ibam sorely missing the mire esoteric parts, too. The Navigators guild, voice and visions were left out in favour for some predictable action scenes.
@@falkenherz1708 Lets not forget need to show every few minutes that Chani is upset.
@@AdamMichalMarkowski Why is it always that showrunners feel the need to modify the story? Can only go wrong (LOTR, GoT, Dune2)
Waiting for Dune: Part Three & GTA VI. Stay healthy everyone.
not part 3 .... Dune Messiah
yeah part 3
As it was writen.
stay safe bro, see you there.
Including a post-credits scene in *this* masterpiece ?? lol
Dune 2 is a real, self-contained film so it doesn’t need a post credits scene.
> “self contained”
> “dune part 2”
@@SteveNathn both part 1 and part 2 are self-contained stories. It’s why you can watch either one in isolation and not come away feeling like you’ve missed something or that the characters haven’t completed an arc.
To make it real simple:
Part 1: basically Hercules
Part 2: basically Hamlet
@@CSquawkthen what could part 3 be?
@@rithikdhakshnamoorthy2974 the second book in the six book series, which is what it’s stated to be if you’ve read one thing about it.
They NEED to make Dune Messiah. You cant end Dune where the Dune book ends. You end Dune at Dune Messiah.
Dune is Dune. Dune Messiah is Dune Messiah. It would be nice for them to make it but it’s entirely not necessary, just like the Godfather part 3 wasn’t necessary.
Yes perhaps Leto 2 IS another trilogy or even more films since happens 3500 years
@@JAKEtheRAKE23 nah, the ending of Dune makes people forget the whole message of the book and makes people think the end justifies the means. In reality, Paul decided to doom the universe by fulfilling his destiny, not that he had much of a choice. They need to show Paul's downfall and finish the holy war to complete the story and complete arc of Paul Atreides.
@@neon6x you have no media literacy if you think the ending of Dune is a happy one, it’s deceptive and shows the perspective from both sides. It’s a happy ending for the Fremen from their perspective, but it’s a bad ending because they’re celebrating the impending slaughter of countless lives in the name of Paul.
@@JAKEtheRAKE23 Read his comment again. He's making the same point as you, only he wants a Dune Messiah movie to effectively portray the pitfalls of Paul's ascension to power.
Wonka really work hard in finding the perfect chocolate
tim is soon the biggest money maker for WBD
Rebecca’s Ferguson is my new hero. The fact that she is in two of my favorite sci-fi stories is awesome and she is formidable in both. Silo & Dune!
If Denis Villeneuve wants to complete the story of Paul Artreides, they should write at as one big screenplay and shoot however movies it takes back-to-back-to-back like Lord of the Rings.
Man, Dune 2 was so beautiful. What a film, score, and brilliant display of acting!
Man, the movie really makes you feel for Chani, more than the book does
me and the rest of the girls in the movie theatre were sobbing so much 😢
Worst part of the movie by far. Shes not a stronger character by being a mopey teenager...
@@Fatts919I'm so happy they changed her, it made her seem like a real teenage girl going through impossible situations
@Fatts919 yeah she eventually just kept storming off or giving faces like a angry teen it did get annoying
@@Fatts919Ah yes, not wanting to be with someone for starting a holy war makes one a mopey teenager lol
I'm gonna watch it again, amazing movie, the way they prepare for the final war and the action sequences with ornithopter are amazing in Imax. the whole movie was shot in Imax not jst few scenes ... Amazing background score and forgot the worm training scene...epic
If i'm correct the young actress from "the others" (2001) played Alia in the miniseries. When Paul attacks the emperor, she has the awesome delivery of saying "My Brother Comes!"
need Pt 3 NOWWWWW!
its not part 3 ..... its Dune Messiah a sequel 1&2 are one movie split into two pieces to tell the Story of Dune
Dune 2 is epic, made me leave a tear at the end
Those who got spoiled by the video.... dude, IGN literally mentioned spoiler warning in the beginning. What were you expecting?
Great video, thanks!
We need a directors cut, the fight with Thanos and Drax felt too short.
Same, it was satisfying bc in the book this fight never happens
We need an extended war scene,sardaukar were so weak in the end.
@@cryptic7800yeah they seemed like bums in this one
She doesnt return to the desert!!!!! She is baattling in her head with the decision as she waits for the worm, she wont ride the worm, how did no one see this?
Nice idea
There was a post credit preview scene when Dune 1 was released for a second time 2 weeks ago.
Anyone else love the movie, but think the way they chopped edited didn’t do the movie justice?
Will dune 3 be the final movie or has there been talks of further being made?
What's great about Pauls power; is that they can justify changes in future movies as different possible futures.
”Despite his tricks loses the duel” what do you mean
Yeah, seemed like a fair fight
poison knife
In the book Feyd uses a poisoned knife, he tried to cheat. I'm not really sure why they made Feyd-Routha into an "honorable warrior" in this movie, since it's out of character for a Harkonnen.
@@h8todayhe has a twisted sense of honour
@@h8todayI like the change, kinda brings order to his chaos ( he's still batshit insane tho)
Great Movie. Looking forward to the next episode.
Why does movie need Post Credit scene when Paul Dreams are already the future that we gonna see 😅
Holy wars stories against the Houses would be nice to bridge viewer to Dune Messiah plot
I’m so glad there are no post credit scenes!
Can anyone explain at what point in movie does Paul change his mind from early movie not wanting to lead and why he changes his mind? Really don't think that's clear in the movie.
Its a bit of a Spoiler in later books but its a bit miltifaceted in the Movie,
In the Books, Paul saw basically the End of Mankind with his visions and he now sees that basically the only way he can Prevent that is by following a specific set of Events called "the Golden Path" and in true Dune Fashion its not gonna be Pretty as he needs to make Morally qustionable decisions to do so,
The Movie expands on this by showing that Paul also really Doesn't have a real Choice, it was either Die with his Adopted People (not commanding all of the Fremen and be ineffective and eventually be defeated) or become a Dark Messiah that will kill Billions (saving his people but also Destroy his Morality completely at least in the Movie, Apparently Book Paul is much more pragmatic about it).
No end credits scene? This is actual cinema, not some marvel garbage
It will be weird seeing paul’s sister fully grown in the next movie because anya taylor joy and timothee chalamet are around the same age
Yeah, hope that’s credit part 3: paul sister 😅😅
It would make sense in-universe. Spice extends life and youth. In the books, the emperor is pushing 70 but looks 30.
That last line, "Holy war began "
Using post credit scenes to set up a sequel is lazy. It can be done with just ending though you have to craft it smartly.
Paul be toxic. First saying he loves chani till his last breath to taking the emperor’s daughter as a wife.
After reading these comments I’m glad I’ve held off on reading the books. These movies are amazing
What.. why? The book "Dune" is fantastic and is better than any of its cinematic adaptations (of which there are 3).
WHY No rain at the end like the original movie ? why no guild steersmen ? wheres harah ? why lasgun used even when shields all around ?
Not everything is shielded, so Lasguns still have a place.
A video of listing all the book storylines that have been left out, might be interesting. Oh the golden path.
Chani is so strong for not folding to Paul’s messiah persona like everyone else 😮💨 that was tough
Is because she conquered his worm.
@@juanguerrero9128💀💀💀
in the book she head over heels in love with him. this version of her was lame and ruined the movie
having this version of chani is weird. Wish they kept the book version.
Zendaya acting as Zendaya
Chani does nothing in the book she pretty much a boring character who just follows Paul like a dog
@@juanmelo2019having her completely go against the grain like this isn't it either...
@@Morfe02lol this is so accurate
It is refreshing to not have post credit scene
Was their love affair meant to last, or was it Duned from the start?
all Paul needed to do was tell the empire he is now the ruler of Arrakis and they are an independent nation.
The empire can still continue to get spice but now they will have to do business with the people of Fremen.
This way he can just stay with Chani. He can use the incoming wealth to make life better for the Fremen.
Sounds logical but it can't happen so Dune Messiah could happen.
He is the quizzataterat. That’s not his future
Bene gesserit won't allow it,as it would doom humanity later
Nah bc Paul wanted all the power and glory
@@sammiem3455right he tried to fight it but at the end of the day he wanted the control. He could have chose control only Arrakis, but he CHOSE to fight Landsraat
Mentat thufir was supposed to be at the end , it is cut
IGN is my favorite place to listen to people who seem like they don't care about anything they're talking about. enjoy
03:40, Are you so used to Marvel's baiting using after credit scenes, that you can't enjoy a movie as it is? Wait until part 3 to find out. Simple
That ending with Chani breaks the continuation and shows she didn't trust Paul. In my opinion it should have kept it like in the books, Paul marrying the princess, but not interacting with her more than to rule the imperium. But ofc, Zendaya had to make a hissy fit and be childish instead of accepting paul's diplomatic marriage like his mother did with Leto.
Both Paul and Leto knew that a marriage has no importance other than a political importance.
Thank goodness you didn't work on the movie
See how he shifts into calling her "Zendaya" when dismissing her legitimate gripe as a hissy fit.
Why are you acting like Zendaya chose to do that. That’s the way Denis chose to portray chani
@@harpoonmcfierce9697why? cause he would have made the movie and the characters how they were suppose to be ?
The can do Paul's baby sister hiring animators to replicate The Flash baby animations 😂
My favorite adaption will always be the SciFi channel "Dune: 2000" version with the Moebius clothes choices and the showing of Paul's son that dies. :3 Just thinking about it being a production that was on a shoestring budget but had 3 movies that tried to follow the books well.
The build up was great. Third act was rushed
itll prob change the entire plot so the story wraps up on dune 3 and all the visions from part 1 are realised
Can someone explain why chani tear awakened him from his sleep after taking the worm essence lol
How Paul survive that wound to win the ending duel?
Dennis Villeneuve made a masterpiece
Thank you!
Dune 2 was a freeeeeaking masterpiece
There is no friggin way Chani becomes a concubine. Audiences will hate that.
There will be #3?
The post credit scenes are Paul's visions
Didn’t know there was an old dune movie lol
If the movie ends with Paul having control of Dune wouldn't that mean that he has control of spice and therefore has control of the universe?
Yes
This would hold true if the other Houses accepted him as the new king of Harkonnens. But as we saw in the end that is not the case
Until someone tries to take control, which is why his holy war happens. The other houses fight back
@@yahirbear so he doesn't have control of the spice?
@@PetePuebla how are you not understanding this? It's the second comment you posted. Are you a bot??
great movie - a TON more fleshed out than the original movie
The book Dune 1965 by Frank Herbert and then Star wars 1977 movie and Dune 1984 movie
Dune's script heavily influenced Star Wars.
Sand planet, galactic empire, surprise genetic relationship with bad guy, etc etc
Maybe Chani meets the ghost of Liet, her father.
If the next film is going to take place decades after part 2 then who is going to replace Timothee Chalamet for the role of older Paul?
mid or post credit scenes! LOL
Just saw dune 2...it was interesting...need to watch it again. Last Paul seems a divided messiah
He's afraid of control and what could happen. Mainly cause of his visions. He's afraid of what he might become.
Just interesting? lmao. Hold back your enthusiasm eh kid?
@thomasoflaherty3520 it was a great movie. It's a saying.."you can't be everything to everybody, in stay true to yourself" Paul seems to be everything to his, mother, father, prophecy, in so forth. But he lost out on the love of his life, who is chani. But best movie of the year! So far
He was always a reluctant messiah in Herbert's books. In Children of Dune, he returns only to destroy his own legacy.
a post credit scene would cheapen the movie. Analogy: most post credit scenes (most) are toys, and you only expect a little toy out of a cereal box. Not buried in the plate of a meal from a high end restaurant. This is not to say one is objectively better or worse. They are just different types of movies. Some post credit scene is a plus, some not suitable at all.
When a review mentions Paul's fate as his "destiny" you know they really haven't grasped the film or it's themes
How do they all get aboard a giant worm withoit issue?
&how do direct a 1000000 ton animal?
Part 3: Duncan Idaho's ghola &Face Dancers.
Messiah is so weird and boring. It will have to be during the holy war which will be more interesting
@@kalencwil3924its not boring at all there are several plots on the table
also technically not Part 3... Dune messiah is a Sequel despite the Two part adaptation of the First book Dune
dune dont have dancers you nub
@@lufasumafalu5069 You don't know what you're talking about. Face Dancers are an important group in the Dune universe, and play a big part in the second book, Dune Messiah.
Outstanding film.
In the end the harkonans still won
Yeah because Paul is a haroken lol
no duncan idaho wins the is the last survivor in the last book
@@johansvensson833 I'm talking about the end of the movie since technically and genetically Paul is harkonans
Please STOP expecting or wanting post-credit sequences!! It is a trend that has gotten completely out of hand. Sometimes when it a movie ends, it just can be over, even if there is more to come.
How are they going to get Chani to come back to paul and have the twins also at this point she should have lost their first child?
Don’t know how you have this movie an 8 it’s socgood
Chani’s attitude spoiled it for me. She was pouting the whole time!
New to the dune universe.
It did feel like dune 2 was trying to fit in a lot of story
The nerd in me kept hearing Dune pt 3 😢 and wanting to correct him
Paul had chosen a very fine princess.
Is Chani leaving Paul?
Thank you for at least admitting these movies diverge from the books. Chani is the "mad girlfriend" who fights for her people she "don't need no man." Aleia is supposed to be the one who kills the baron. And the Emperor kneels and kisses the ring just because Paul wins? It's because of the spacing guild. This guy who made this movie isn't the "fan boy" he led us to believe he is. All the corporate reviews are showing how much they care about the source material (not much).
Are you Jimmy Neutron?
If you pause and look at Max's eyes; it looks like he's terrified and being held hostage.
00:36
Masterpiece ❤
when do we know part 3 to be released ? watched part 2 cant wait for part 3; my gosh... greatest movie ever after the lord of the ring.
There won't be a "Part 3" it will probably just be "Dune: Messiah" if they choose to make sequels at all.
saw this last night, cool effects but preferred the original dune film
Making Chani pouty made me give the middle finger to the ending but loved the movie and Zendaya is an awesome actress.
Because being pouty when the guy you love randomly dumps you in public for some other woman he's never met would NEVER happen right? FFS....
@45641560456405640563 You should read the book. Chani never walks out on Paul. Paul tells Irulan that she is wife only in name and Chani is his concubine.
@@DZGenesiszero Irrelevant to my point. Thanks for playing.
@@DZGenesiszeroah yes cause women love being concubines 💀 especially one as headstrong and independent as chani is depicted to be
Im expecting a lelouch ending for this movie series.(I didnt read the books) just a gut feeling. Paul takes over everything pretending 2 be bad and zendaya character takes him out(He changes his fate) while his wife have his baby. Haha
This guy is shocked Villeneuve didn’t want a corny post-credits scene in his movie?
That’s like being shocked Fellowship didn’t have a post-credits scene…like no dude