@@mark2254 um I would say bane is the second best player on that team. Also with that logic then ayton should be considered really good. Suns were number 1 seed and also helped get his team to the finals
The man also literally wrote The Book of Basketball. He knows his stuff. Obviously they’ll get stuff wrong from time to time, but not as much as they hit!
@@tuckerdoyle4492 Yep, Bill watches the games too. He's not a Cowherd or Bayless who has an intern watch and give him takes that will get clicks. He's just watched a lot of ball and figured out what works.
He'll troll time to time but when he's just giving basketball takes he's good. But that's not what ESPN wants. They want yelling and hot takes to make people angry
Bill knows his shit and he’s my favorite but only idiots and racists didn’t realize Doncic was the best player in the draft by FUCKING MILES. No one working for the kings hawks or suns should ever have a job in basketball again.
@@pex3 Bill cosplayed as a black person with a fake black name as a child lol I don’t think he’s someone that always loves the white guys more than black players. He just likes craft players and if we’re being honest most white guys that make it as ball handlers are. I never really see him show much of a preference or love for the standard white shooter guys or even white generic big men. He likes the guys like Luka, Jokic, way lower level but Jaime on the Heat, guys like that. I think they remind him of Bird so it makes sense but he even had Magic higher on his all time list.
Say what you want about his writing or homer style, but Bill knows the NBA. He is obsessed with the sport and has covered it for 30 years. He knows his shit.
Last year Mo bamba averaged 10.6ppg / 8.1rpg / 1.7blocks per game last year on only 25.7mins. While shooting 48% from field and 38% from 3. That is a very solid player lmao u tripping bro
Bill’s little 4-8 minute monologues on NBA stuff at the top of his podcast are among my favorite sports media bits. It’s like a sports radio host but it’s way more calm and reflective and thoughtful.
It just shows how much ball he's watched. He was totally right. Took a step back and said, "what are we doing here? THESE are the players that win every year. And those guys look nice, but they never translate "
I remember not wanting the 1st overall pick as a suns fan because I knew they wouldn't pass up on the big man Ayton when me and my family really wanted Doncic 😭😭
@@TejBBF223 wouldn’t have ever needed CP if they got Luka in 2018, could’ve made a move instead for whatever hole that team might have needed, Luka and Booker would be insane together
fox and ayton pretty much equal to fox and sabonis = play in team. Booker and doncic wins the chip over giannis. Doncic wins finals mvp. Doncic and fox = playoff team probably wcf exit.
@@razkable he is eassily the 4th best player of that draft class(and you could argue that he is a better piece to win a title with then Trae Young) what more can you expect. The only better player he missed is Shai, but that the Clippers a year later still didn't realize yet
@@zachkemp6535 Bamba has no motor. This was obvious before he hit the NBA and why someone like Simmons could so easily write him off as a bust before he ever played a game. All the talent and physical gifts to be a superstar, but without the drive it just doesn’t work. The Magic fell into the trap of thinking they could teach him this one thing… but if you’ve been watching as long as I have, it seems players either have it or they don’t… nobody suddenly develops it a few years into their NBA career.
@@davyunwashington3613 I never said anything about working. He could work harder on his game than Kobe, but if he doesn’t have the motor in-game, it isn’t going to matter. Nobody ever questioned motor or compete level with Billups, and anyone who did with Wiggins was proven wrong last spring. On that topic, the motor and compete level of KAT can be questionable. If you recall, Jimmy Butler has always been good with Wiggins, it was KAT he butted heads with, presumably for this very reason. The problem in Minnesota was never Andrew Wiggins.
Anybody here who loves sports should check out his podcast. The 2 or 3 episodes each week are the highlights of my queue. Even if he is a blatant Boston homer 😂
It’s crazy because Mo Bamba worked on his perimeter shooting now he’s a threat outside the paint lol. A center that can shoot 3s pretty well. 😂 hopefully this Lakers trade will help him show off his skill set.
I go to Mo Bamba’s (and Cam Reddish’s) high school and honestly I’m really sad he didn’t pan out in the NBA. Looking forward to how Dereck Lively II turns out both at Duke and the NBA
Tbh I thought Doncic was going to be like on the level of something like if prime Ginobili had his own team and started his career at 19 years old , so a hall of famer... but I didn't predict possibly the best player of his generation and a threat to be in the goat conversation one day.
@@zachkemp6535 idk man, MJ, Kobe, LeBron and almost every player and coach who talks about him shows a high level of respect for him. Are you one of those people who thinks because players flop today and because handchecking and hard fouls in the 80s and 90s the past was alot better?
Anyone who knew anything about basketball knew Luka was a top4 GOAT teenage prospect! He was literally winning MVP of 2nd best league in world at 17/18! Just bc Kings and Suns moronically didn’t draft him doesn’t mean this was some amazing take. LeBron Wilt Kareem Luka Wenbanyama in whatever order you want to put them the best teenage prospects EVER!
He was almost right on every count... the only thing he couldn't account for was that Mo Bamba suddenly learned how to shoot three pointers and thus made himself a 10 year NBA guy when his career had previously been sputtering.
Yeah dudes become an underated rotation piece will probably be a really solid role player on a contender in a few years time his rim protection is legit.
The people who didn't like Doncic didn't rip him because of his game, it's because he played in Europe. Titus and Tate still worked at the Ringer at the time and they'd constantly rip on the Spanish League implying it was way worse than NCAA. It was only two years later that Bill said Ayton was a top 20 guy in the league after the Suns run in the finals...oh, and Bill hates Young now. ;) Bill's a smart dude, and his Book of Basketball is great, but you can pull video of anyone on TV/Podcasts making correct predictions when they make predictions every week. You can also pull lots of video where they are completely wrong. For example, off the top of my head Bill was a really big Michael Kidd-Giilcrest guy and loved Dion Waiters.
Anyone with half a brain would take Luka 1st overall. I don't understand how people treat Wembanyama as the next LeBron, but with Luka, they thought "Should he be the 1st overall pick?"...
Luka didn’t get respect because the nba cares more about freak athleticism than fundamentals, but the reality is that fundamentals always win out, that’s why 3 of the 5 best guys in the league are from Europe, better fundamentals.
Goddamn both of those were on point Mo if he just had a little bit of Drive he could have been something special but he didn't have that so he is flaming out.
I can only think of shaq, hakeem, kareem, Giannis and Russell that have been the been the best player to win there team multiple chips as a big. Those types of bigs are very rare much safer taking a skill player that high if you want to build a dynasty he's spot on. Then there's bigs having to worry about staying healthy too, leg Injuries can kill there career easily ex. AD, Cousins, Bynum, Odum.
Most people understood luka was the best player in the draft and he was projected #1 right up near the draft but it was the stigma of a euro player never bing picked that high which prevented teams from trusting him. Booker and Luka… what could have been.
@@lilv3966 it was on ESPN and other basketball shows all the time, he was considering the best prospect by a ton of their analysts. I think maybe it was mostly talked about before the college season started then people were able to better scout the guys in America so then it changed the projections. The dude won euro league mvp before the ncaa started so he got a ton of attention
Nailed every single one 👌
Except Jaren Jackson
@@feelsgoodman420 how is the 2nd best player on a 2 seed that’s a potentially top 5 defender right now not a really good player? 😂😂
@@feelsgoodman420 bruh stop lol
@@feelsgoodman420 he is good. Maybe not really good as that’s arbitrary but more likely than not he’ll reach that threshold
@@mark2254 um I would say bane is the second best player on that team. Also with that logic then ayton should be considered really good. Suns were number 1 seed and also helped get his team to the finals
Couldn't have said it better myself
Couldn’t have* 🤓
Wouldn't have
As much as we clown guys like Bill when they get it wrong… there’s a lot of value in a guy whose religiously covered basketball for 30+ years.
Yes because of this video right here lol
The man also literally wrote The Book of Basketball. He knows his stuff. Obviously they’ll get stuff wrong from time to time, but not as much as they hit!
@@tuckerdoyle4492 Yep, Bill watches the games too. He's not a Cowherd or Bayless who has an intern watch and give him takes that will get clicks. He's just watched a lot of ball and figured out what works.
Long career for sure
He'll troll time to time but when he's just giving basketball takes he's good. But that's not what ESPN wants. They want yelling and hot takes to make people angry
Bro he absolutely boiled Mo Bamba 😂
It's sad cause he's kinda right😆
@@ihaveadream3321 Gianni’s athleticism, not handle.
@@ihaveadream3321 he is nun like Giannis when they were both getting inna league tho
Bamba is ass, thank god he refused that workout with Memphis we got JJJ and bamba can be Florida man. Fuckem
He's right
This man has also been singing praises to Edwards from the jump. Talking the Jordan esque qualities. When you know you know
Gotta give Bill credit, he was 100% a Doncic guy since day 1.
Bill knows his shit and he’s my favorite but only idiots and racists didn’t realize Doncic was the best player in the draft by FUCKING MILES. No one working for the kings hawks or suns should ever have a job in basketball again.
He's 100% a "any white guy that's good" guy. But yes.
@@pex3 Bill cosplayed as a black person with a fake black name as a child lol I don’t think he’s someone that always loves the white guys more than black players. He just likes craft players and if we’re being honest most white guys that make it as ball handlers are. I never really see him show much of a preference or love for the standard white shooter guys or even white generic big men. He likes the guys like Luka, Jokic, way lower level but Jaime on the Heat, guys like that. I think they remind him of Bird so it makes sense but he even had Magic higher on his all time list.
Also 100% a Scoot Henderson guy from day 1. Might still work out eventually
It was so weird he wasn't the top pick. Dude could literally do everything. He had the European white boy stereotype though at the time.
Spot on for ALL THESE takes
Say what you want about his writing or homer style, but Bill knows the NBA. He is obsessed with the sport and has covered it for 30 years. He knows his shit.
He takes way to much crap for being a homer. He is the rare analyst who is a fan and people kill him for it.
That Mo Bamba line was savage 😂
It hurts being a Magic fan and listen to him be so spot on Bamba..
You coulda just ended at “It hurts being a Magic fan” and been just as correct Brody, shit is rough
@@liljimmy8248 True, but Paolo and Franz give me a bit of hope
As a die hard Mavs fan I wanted them to get Mo bamba so badly he went to UT and everything but damn we got a generational talent in Luka thank god 💪
Last year Mo bamba averaged 10.6ppg / 8.1rpg / 1.7blocks per game last year on only 25.7mins. While shooting 48% from field and 38% from 3. That is a very solid player lmao u tripping bro
@@BigPercNowitzki Yeah *last year* problem is now they got him playing 3 minutes a game. He's been straight up replaced..
Bill’s little 4-8 minute monologues on NBA stuff at the top of his podcast are among my favorite sports media bits. It’s like a sports radio host but it’s way more calm and reflective and thoughtful.
RIP Tjarks
RIP he was so smart and fun to listen to
No disrespect but who?
Hes dead?
@@razkable he passed from Cancer
It just shows how much ball he's watched. He was totally right. Took a step back and said, "what are we doing here? THESE are the players that win every year. And those guys look nice, but they never translate "
I remember not wanting the 1st overall pick as a suns fan because I knew they wouldn't pass up on the big man Ayton when me and my family really wanted Doncic 😭😭
I didn't understand he has been playing against grown men since he was 13 and had a Euroleague MVP. Imagibe Suns with Doncic and Booker and CP3
@@TejBBF223 wouldn’t have ever needed CP if they got Luka in 2018, could’ve made a move instead for whatever hole that team might have needed, Luka and Booker would be insane together
@@AntFarmer47 I know that it would just be insane how many ways you could attack opponents
It’s beautiful that they pass on Doncic then Doncic cooks them in the playoffs
@@TejBBF223 bro you can’t have the whole team be guards. This isn’t 2K.
Dude dropped this like he came back from the future
I missed when they did things like this. Getting some of those guys in the same room just creates a better vibe then sharing a screen together
Nobody can be right all the time but Bill is more knowledgable than most NBA media by far
That live stream was goated. Love rewatching this
imagine doncic and booker and the fox with ayton
fox and ayton pretty much equal to fox and sabonis = play in team. Booker and doncic wins the chip over giannis. Doncic wins finals mvp. Doncic and fox = playoff team probably wcf exit.
Doncic and ayton would go far the perimeter defense with Doncic and Book sucks
@@mambaASI suns with luka still not beating that bucks team.
Imagine LeBron wade and bosh teaming together in their prime. That would of been sick
Luka and booker would be the best father/son duo
Wow… never seen this clip before… just wow… gonna have to go check out more of Bill 😂
I love Kevin Clark (magic fan) in the background just closing his eyes knowing Bill is probably gonna be right about Mo Bamba.
Bill gets a lot of hate but people forget this guy has dedicated his life to basketball, and his knowledge on the matter extends decades.
He was a bit off on Jaren Jackson being a star...he's good but not a star yet
@@razkable last time I checked Jackson hasn’t even reached his prime.
Sounds like you’re arguing from a disingenuous angle
@@razkable I dont know what is your definition but he is NBA All-star
@@razkable he is absolutely right bout JJJ, he’s just won DPOY, & is potentially an all nba guy going forward
@@razkable he is eassily the 4th best player of that draft class(and you could argue that he is a better piece to win a title with then Trae Young) what more can you expect.
The only better player he missed is Shai, but that the Clippers a year later still didn't realize yet
That’s a man that knows his hoops.
So nice to see Conception hanging out with the Ringer peeps
That’s why they kicked him off espn he made too many people look stupid and would tell them told you do live on air lmaooo
Cause he actually watches the games unlike Stephen A Smith and Perkins.
Mo bamba is on the clock 😂
The Mo Bamba take is still in play lol. 2025 Mo Bamba podcast on the ringer is not impossible
He told no lies.
He did though
He predicted the future
You gotta love this guy
Did bamba dirty 😂😭
Bamba is nice
@@zachkemp6535 since when
@@zachkemp6535 Bamba has no motor. This was obvious before he hit the NBA and why someone like Simmons could so easily write him off as a bust before he ever played a game.
All the talent and physical gifts to be a superstar, but without the drive it just doesn’t work.
The Magic fell into the trap of thinking they could teach him this one thing… but if you’ve been watching as long as I have, it seems players either have it or they don’t… nobody suddenly develops it a few years into their NBA career.
@@cpark49 how would u know he anit working not everyone needs to be a star off rip look at Andrew Wiggins and Chauncey billups
@@davyunwashington3613 I never said anything about working. He could work harder on his game than Kobe, but if he doesn’t have the motor in-game, it isn’t going to matter.
Nobody ever questioned motor or compete level with Billups, and anyone who did with Wiggins was proven wrong last spring. On that topic, the motor and compete level of KAT can be questionable. If you recall, Jimmy Butler has always been good with Wiggins, it was KAT he butted heads with, presumably for this very reason. The problem in Minnesota was never Andrew Wiggins.
Holy shit this was spot on.
At least he still has that cool song about him
Anybody here who loves sports should check out his podcast. The 2 or 3 episodes each week are the highlights of my queue. Even if he is a blatant Boston homer 😂
RIP Kevin O’Connors jawline, this dude is a fucking unit now
He never had a jawline, wdym
Kevin Clark’s face when he knows his Magic are just about to draft Mo😂
Wow he nailed it.
Just beautiful
Remember this is the same guy that reacted in shock to Anthony Bennett being picked #1. Bill Simmons knows his stuff
Tbf it was a shock to most lmao.
Bennett was projected 10th it was a shock for everyone
Pretty sure he had Ayton ranked over SGA though which ended up being a bit laughable, but I guess at the time Ayton was very highly ranked
@@duffal0 All 30 NBA teams had Ayton over SGA. That's why he fell to 11th so Bill was with the majority.
@@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 yeah ur right it’s kind of nitpicking atp
He was spot on
I would fuckin have that clip just playing non stop on my TV holy fuck
Damn bill Simmons goated
it's because the teams with the highest picks are usually the worst managed ones. that's how they consistently get there.
Bill is the goat
GYATdamn he was spot on. About everything. That's mad
Dont give two shits .. LOVE Bill Simmons
It’s crazy because Mo Bamba worked on his perimeter shooting now he’s a threat outside the paint lol. A center that can shoot 3s pretty well. 😂 hopefully this Lakers trade will help him show off his skill set.
bill is a ball knower
With some exceptions you're best bet to get a title, is your best player being a wing that's at least 6'6" that plays good defense.
Bill is so smart with basketball it’s a shame a team hasn’t taken a crack at paying him to work in their FO.
He has some misses too
And Bol Bol basically taking Bamba's spot after he had a good year last year.. literally nailed it
Bullseye 🎯, and that's half pissed. Good job William.
I go to Mo Bamba’s (and Cam Reddish’s) high school and honestly I’m really sad he didn’t pan out in the NBA. Looking forward to how Dereck Lively II turns out both at Duke and the NBA
Tbh I thought Doncic was going to be like on the level of something like if prime Ginobili had his own team and started his career at 19 years old , so a hall of famer... but I didn't predict possibly the best player of his generation and a threat to be in the goat conversation one day.
Chill he ain’t that good tf nba can make anyone look like a superstar 🧲🧲🧲
@@zachkemp6535 idk man, MJ, Kobe, LeBron and almost every player and coach who talks about him shows a high level of respect for him.
Are you one of those people who thinks because players flop today and because handchecking and hard fouls in the 80s and 90s the past was alot better?
J Kyle Mann fucking called it
Anyone who knew anything about basketball knew Luka was a top4 GOAT teenage prospect! He was literally winning MVP of 2nd best league in world at 17/18! Just bc Kings and Suns moronically didn’t draft him doesn’t mean this was some amazing take.
LeBron
Wilt
Kareem
Luka
Wenbanyama
in whatever order you want to put them the best teenage prospects EVER!
Nailed it!
😂 Amazing
He was almost right on every count... the only thing he couldn't account for was that Mo Bamba suddenly learned how to shoot three pointers and thus made himself a 10 year NBA guy when his career had previously been sputtering.
Yeah dudes become an underated rotation piece will probably be a really solid role player on a contender in a few years time his rim protection is legit.
Literally
It hasn't been 7 years
Wow, spot on
Damn. Simmons nailed it
Damn. He nailed that….
Sad to see how many great ringer people left the company
Nailed it
He cold !
With the kobes on I like it bill
The people who didn't like Doncic didn't rip him because of his game, it's because he played in Europe. Titus and Tate still worked at the Ringer at the time and they'd constantly rip on the Spanish League implying it was way worse than NCAA.
It was only two years later that Bill said Ayton was a top 20 guy in the league after the Suns run in the finals...oh, and Bill hates Young now. ;)
Bill's a smart dude, and his Book of Basketball is great, but you can pull video of anyone on TV/Podcasts making correct predictions when they make predictions every week. You can also pull lots of video where they are completely wrong. For example, off the top of my head Bill was a really big Michael Kidd-Giilcrest guy and loved Dion Waiters.
Wow. Are you sure that this wasn’t recorded in the past year because these are spot on
Mo mamba didn’t forget, keep sleeping 💤
Bro cooked
Anyone with half a brain would take Luka 1st overall. I don't understand how people treat Wembanyama as the next LeBron, but with Luka, they thought "Should he be the 1st overall pick?"...
Luka didn’t get respect because the nba cares more about freak athleticism than fundamentals, but the reality is that fundamentals always win out, that’s why 3 of the 5 best guys in the league are from Europe, better fundamentals.
Goddamn both of those were on point Mo if he just had a little bit of Drive he could have been something special but he didn't have that so he is flaming out.
Dang he was on point
he's on the money on everything but Mo Bamba he can play in the league as long as his three-point percentage does not go downhill
I can only think of shaq, hakeem, kareem, Giannis and Russell that have been the been the best player to win there team multiple chips as a big. Those types of bigs are very rare much safer taking a skill player that high if you want to build a dynasty he's spot on. Then there's bigs having to worry about staying healthy too, leg Injuries can kill there career easily ex. AD, Cousins, Bynum, Odum.
Very rare of him
Rare Bill Simmons W…
Not very often when Simmons is actually right about something
Nailed it i thought doncic was gonna be a star i thought trae was gonna be a bust
And i thought mo was gonna be a beast!!
GOAT
The man’s a profit
Mo Bamba hadn't shown his 3-pt shot or his slight ability to pass well AT TIMES, so I don't blame him
Lol as a magic fan I can attest to how hard he nailed on Mo Bamba
My hawks self wanted Bamba,Trae,Luka that order and we technically got the 2 I wanted least but became 2/3 best PGs😂 2018 man
on point.
Mo Bamba have been looking rough lately.. funny take 😂
Yo that was perfect.
Mo bamba was actually solid last year
thought it said ben simmons 😂
Bro knows ball omg
Mo Bamba just catching strays 🤣😂
y’all just remember marvin bagley was picked before doncic
Mo was more the situation I think. His team went from Vuc to Wendell Carter
Most people understood luka was the best player in the draft and he was projected #1 right up near the draft but it was the stigma of a euro player never bing picked that high which prevented teams from trusting him. Booker and Luka… what could have been.
Nah, people really thought that dudes like Ayton and Bagley were the real deal
@@lilv3966 agreed
@@lilv3966 it was on ESPN and other basketball shows all the time, he was considering the best prospect by a ton of their analysts. I think maybe it was mostly talked about before the college season started then people were able to better scout the guys in America so then it changed the projections. The dude won euro league mvp before the ncaa started so he got a ton of attention
When all the nerds start laughing together in agreement 😅😂
Why tf did I read that as Ben Simmons and wait the whole video for his ass to speak some facts 😂😂
He was so right about everything lol
goddamn bill, 300 iq
aged well!