5 Benefits of Collagen that Experts got WRONG (ignore the hype)
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Infleuncers are taking it way too far with collagen lately
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Timestamps ⏱
0:00 - Intro
0:27 - Collagen is the Same as Other Proteins
1:48 - Don't Add Collagen to Coffee
3:08 - Vitamin C is Imperative to Collagen
5:00 - 20% off Bubs Naturals
6:05 - Marine Collagen is Better
7:56 - Collagen Supplementation
Thomas's dedication to simplifying complex scientific concepts in his videos is truly commendable. His efforts not only make the information accessible to everyone but also ignite curiosity and enthusiasm for science in his viewers. Keep up the fantastic work, Thomas!
Thanks! I get people excited about somewhat useless info hahah
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial The work you put in is incredible. You provide valuable bitesize info that's easy to understand. It's great that you can also look back and point out when you have got things wrong, too. I've started a new website/blog dedicated to men's health and fitness, and your content, as well as others, have encouraged me to set this up.
Agreed. He's one of the few out there without a medical or chiropractic title, which is probably a strength in his case. Keeping him free thinking.
How big is your team nowadays Tom? @@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
The key takeaways from Thomas Delauer's discussion on collagen misconceptions are:
1. **Collagen's Unique Role**: Collagen peptides are not just another form of protein; they act as signaling molecules that specifically encourage the body's collagen production and restructuring, offering benefits that other proteins do not.
2. **Collagen and Caffeine**: Contrary to the belief that caffeine negatively impacts collagen, adding collagen to caffeinated beverages like coffee may actually help counteract any potential degradation of collagen caused by caffeine, making it a beneficial combination.
3. **Vitamin C's Role**: While vitamin C is crucial for collagen synthesis, it is not necessary to take it simultaneously with collagen supplements for effective absorption. Vitamin C acts more as a co-factor in the body's natural collagen formation process rather than directly influencing collagen supplement absorption.
4. **Marine vs. Bovine Collagen**: The debate between marine and bovine collagen might not be as significant for most consumers. Bovine collagen, being more thermally stable and cost-effective, could be a better choice for general use, despite marine collagen's touted benefits.
5. **Supplements vs. Whole Foods**: Both collagen supplements and whole food sources of collagen have their place in a balanced diet. Supplements can quickly elevate the body's collagen levels, especially beneficial for recovery, while whole food sources provide a broader range of nutrients and benefits.
Thank you.
thanks😁
Point#1 is false the research just doesn't show enough to prove this.
Thank you!
Excellent. Much appreciated 🙏
Regarding collagen produced by fibroblasts in skin, I used to culture fibroblasts on matrices for skin replacement therapy. I saw that vit C and hyaluronic acid made the fibroblasts produce collagen strands. Vit c alone would do it, but Vit c and HA was better. So now I take vit c and HA as supplements. Whatever anyone ever says, I always believe what I’ve seen with my own two eyes. Xx
Can I ask, do you think it matters much whether the vitamin C is food-derived as opposed to synthetic?
How much Vitamin C/Hyaluronic Acid to Collagen ratio?
Yeah that is what I am taking. My supplement has all. Collagen, Vitamin C and HA.
@@eddiegrant58 we used 'synthetic' in the lab. I use supplements that don't have aspartame (Holland and Barrett 1000mg, after food and take HA separately). Vit C is heat labile and anything pasteurised will have degraded the vit C (e.g. tubs of orange juice, they always add ascorbate in afterwards). Nutrients can degrade from natural sources quickly with storage etc. Dont be worried about taking synthetic.
You think this also applies for internal tissues (as in, could help the gut lining)?
Thank you for doing this video!! Much needed. I am immediately sending it to a handful Of people…
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"Expert" has become utterly meaningless in the past four years.
No kidding. All marketing across the board is just bananas at this point.
As an expert, I 100% agree.
Amen
Right - "follow the science and take your Vaxx shot" 😅
I think experience has trumped this forever. Many educated "experts" that can't get a job.
This is genuinely my favourite channel. I look forward to the new videos each day! Thank you for all your hard work, Thomas!
Absolutely agree importance with full food matrix. Thanks.
Love your work, you always have the receipts. Thank you!!!
Excellent Video! As someone who ingests hydrolyzed collagen peptide powder, I found this content both educational and validating. I do eat meat, too! Keep up the great work, Thomas! ❤
Nice conversation, I noticed faster change in my body while using my current supplement
It’s good conversation. Thanks Tom 👍🏻
Very helpful, assuring video. Thank you!
We have a lot of natural collagen in our diet. I also add in mixed bovine & marinecollagen at times, & chicken bone broth. I use under the recommended amount, as for me it does occasionally cause pain if I over do it. I understand hydroxyproline converts to oxalic acid, so it could be oxalate precipitation.
Is there much to the different "types" of collagen and how much they help joints vs hair vs skin ect? Ive heard type 2 collagen is best for joints.
I drink pots of coffee a day. I take multi collagen1235 and 10 because I have venous insufficiency from when I broke my spine and had no way to put my feet up for 19 days until I got a lift chair. At 60 I have a hard, hard time walking, but I force myself to do it every day. In fact, I do all the yard work and maintenance. I think collagen helped with the venous stasis at least a little. I'm not much on beef, but I do eat it. Sometimes I grind our beef into burger meat. I only eat it ground. I eat chicken breasts. mostly boiled with Greek seasoning. I have collagen pills stuck in my throat right now. They're not washing down with coffee. Dang. You have some interesting advice. I tend to listen to fit people when considering nutritional needs. You don't look like a 20 something. They can recommend anything and make it sound good because they haven't been through life, yet. Haha.
I had chronic tendonitis in my elbows that went away as soon as I started taking collagen. Despite my success with it, I stopped taking it because the census seemed to be that it doesn't do anything. Glad I'm not the complete fool they made me feel like I was.
How does kitchen gelatin relate to the 'collagen' in all the studies? - My current go-to snack for low carbs is protein mouse made with protein powder and gelatin set in the fridge for a couple of hours.
we live conscious Hydrolysed+Collagen+Peptides is one of the best products I have found, I will check out this and compare.
I came across your channel a week or so ago while researching keto. It seams like you been able to keep and build lean muscle mass on IF and Keto diets. I just haven’t been able to find a video that breaks down your formula for staying lean and building mass. Could u point me to a video of u already completed one?
Thanks.
Love the coffee item, I've been adding 20g collagen to my coffee the past month. I've found it easiest to consume this way, blends in easy and I'm having a cup of coffee everyday so never forget. Can't even notice I've added.
my self added lemon juice in my collagen and here my india lot of spices used to make any non veg gravy with coconut
I just know that when I add collagen peptide powder to my electrolyte drink I see an almost complete healing of my cuticles. Maybe a small thing to others but I am impressed. Nothing else has that effect for me.
Do you have an opinion on consuming organic beef or chicken bone broth as a source of collagen?
Thank you, Thomas. I know where to go to get the real (collagen) scoop! 😎
You need type 2 collagen for cartilage, I started using horbach branded type 1 2 3 5 and 10 collagen, huge 32 oz bottle for like 30 bucks. I have noticed huge benefits of collagen (orgain/vital proteins brand) and have gone through 7-10 bottles past year. My skin , hair , nail, AND SLEEP are perfect when I take it! you need vitamin c AND COPPER along with Glycine to make collagen yourself. geletin is good too, low sugar natural flavor only though.
great video as always, but i feel like a question we all would like to hear from the king is, how much?
General question here in a video you posted you mention taking BCAA is out and EAA is in which I agree but how much EAA to take? Some say two to three times a day ? And it should be taken on empty stomach and definetly not around protien
I so do appreciate you🎉
Bingo. Good stuff Thomas
I've recently been making my own bone broth from scratch. Will home-made bone broth contain a fair amount of collagen peptides?
Any opinion regarding porcine collagen peptides? My research shows that porcine is closest to humans.
Good talk, Thomas, thanks. Also, gesundheit! 🤧
Great information, thanks for this video. Is it ok to mix my collagen powder into my protein shake?
Absolutely! In nature they come package together. 💜
The real question is this...if I upped my protein intake to say...400 to 500 grams a day and was also taking vitamin C and my body used up what was needed to repair muscle...would the extra protein get used to create collegian?
What about heavy metals in collagen peptides? Is that true?
Love your videos..from INDIA
Awesome video! Love my collagen
What’s your view on taking collagen while fasting. Specifically, its impact on autophagy.
Grass fed Whey Concentrate/Isolate, creatine, collagen, MCT, high quality fish oil, Vitamin C, Zinc, and I'll go as far as saying black coffee are my go to daily supplements that I feel have the most bang for the buck.
Suggest Beta Alanine
What are main benefits of MCT?
Also check your daily magnesium. Thanks for the easy list I’m checking mine now.
I don't think there are any. It was hyped before but the random human control studies didn't back it up.@@gacusrunner2004
Thanks.
So the conclusion of the first section is that eating dietary collagen will cause my own body to make human collagen where I need it. Is that equally true for chicken gizzards, beef tendons, gelatin, or other collagen?
Yes. How do you think people got it before Amazon delivered it dry-powered in a plastic tub?
@@rogerbritus9378haha right 😂
What would you recommend instead of coffee "that also has caffeine" Thanks for ALL your great posts!
I drink coffee with collagen, coco, cinnamon and MCT oil every morning.
How does the temperature of the coffee affect the colligen?
I was about to buy Marine Collagen but glad i did not. This video gave me the assurance that I made the right choice in just buying the regular bovine version
Does it matter what time to have the Collagen Peptide? I generally have it with coffee in the morning but don't eat until dinner. Or is it better to have right before eating meat etc?
Wow bubs from hr has a supplement company!
Eat chicken thighs and drums save bones boil make soup stock. Boil again make bone broth. Boom natural collagen
This is what my family does once or twice a week. Roast a whole chicken or two, toss the bones and skins in the crockpot overnight. Strain it, then soup. Chicken noodle, split pea... Or just drink it. Yum.
Thanks!
I put collagen in my protein smoothie, is that too much protein?
ive been told that for some people collagen can cause anxiety?
Yum! Coffee with prolines and creme!
What about the powder vs liquid debate that popped up a few years ago?
If anything, the negative hype is bringing the prices down. I took it a few years ago and at some point stopped just for budget reasons. I just started up today and found it much cheaper than I remember. At least on sale.
I buy collagen peptides with all three types!
Nature's Plus and Ancient Nutrition make collagen powder with 7 types.
Get the unflavored collagen and add your own undutched cocoa powder
Yesterday I "thought to myself" that maybe I should start taking a collagen supplement. And now youtube shows me this video.
Gesundheit... You sneezed at the end!
Doesn't the body synthesize these amino acids needed for collagen synthesis?
❤ the outro 😂
When you consume the collagen, does your stomach acid not just break it down into the amino acids anyway?
I think he said that collagen supplements absorb very very fast,so perhaps before the acid gets to it,it's already in the blood stream.
My Italian roast,French press coffee with grass fed butter just isn’t the same with out a scoop of collagen and some Ceylon cinnamon.
I put collagen in my morning coffee and it makes it taste good.
Careful with studies. Always review the "Publish or Perish" , who funded, why, and long term vs short term, was it a RCT's on humans, dogs, cats or rats.....
They're wrong again now! They're right again now! - They're, experts..!! It's just like astrophysics people 😂
It's nutrition, so too many people think they know. I trust Thomas to give us the latest.
Trust whoever gives the most biochemical details.
@@janicebailey2898Thomas always changes his mind on everything 😂 I don’t believe anything he says cause 6 months later he changes his view like always
Go figure... I literally just bought $160 worth of Marine Collagen yesterday, then this video pops up lol. Oh well, going to try it out for a while, then try out Bovine when it's done. Thank you for the information as always.
Buy bovine too and mix it, works very well
I would not waste it because every day somebody tells you something different anyway so how do you know which one is right? On the direction on the collagen tells you to put it in coffee and he tells you not to 🤔
hard to argue with facts
The only supplements I take are creatine, collagen, iron, magnesium and citrulline, now which one of them do you think is the reason I am a 27 year old gym bro with the skin of a 18 year old asian girl?
What race are you? Do you have dark skin? I would say prob the collagen. Do you consume caffeine?
@farnio I'm hungarian/ greek and I drink 4-8 coffees a day and preworkout
nobody cares
I think i heard that you need about 20g in one dose to get a response?
So I eat 6-8oz of ground beef every morning for breakfast, never any gastro-issues. I took Collagen peptides (the standard vital proteins) throughout the day, 1 tablespoon with an ounce or 2 of lemon juice in water 4x day (bc 1 serving is 4 tablespoons?! Wild) it gives me so much gas, kills my stomach. I worked slowly up to that for 4 weeks...I stopped completely as of now until I figure out what's going on..am I the only one?
Maybe mix it with other food in a smoothie?
Mix it in 12 ounces of water or something else
thank u
So, do you recommend eating fattier ground beef and not the extra lean?
Good question.
I do. Fat is flavor!
fattier is normally more nutritious
I love eating fatty ground beef 75/25 & 80/20. Eating fatter ground beef means I don't have to add any extra fat.
Which is better - collagen or bone broth?
Both are better 😊
Does BuBs use pork?
How about it helps cancer cells to be stronger by helping its microenvironment?
I am on IF and im taking aaaall my supplements at the same time:
- vitamin C
- Vit E
- multivit with minerals
- Biotin with zinc and selenium
- vit D3 with K2
- Omega 3
- collagen
I only take them after a meal so since there is scientific evidence that supplements are better absorbed with food.
What about copper to off set the zinc?
@@stepheneverhardt4731 Its already in my multivit
@@stepheneverhardt4731
Why would you want to reduce the effect of Zinc?
@@kedabro1957 zinc and copper work against each other. Taking zinc without copper will deplete your copper stores and vice versa. Take copper in the morning and take zinc with lunch or dinner.
Bless you bro lol
Now you're telling me not to put the collagan in coffe no one ever said that before 😮
I concur the facepalm, especially for the first part 🤓
Is marine collagen any good
It's much better than air force collagen.
@Santa-ny1yp 😂😂😂
Does he really take collagen or just cuz he wants to sell it?
Wish my gut was this happy. 3:17
Amino Fuel by Twin labs FTW.
"Expert" being wrong? Wow, say it ain't so!
Thomas has never feared walking back on information as new evidence comes out…
So much money to be made on collagen
Is there a way to know if your collagen levels are very low(collagen deficit)?
Like most things, the older you are the lower the levels.
Production starts to dwindle in our mid-to-late 20s and early 30s and we start losing 1% of our collagen per year after that. By 40, collagen drops dramatically, leading to signs of aging such as wrinkles, skin sagging, skin drying and loss of energy.
3:00 Why do you say coffee causes wrinkles? Where is the science behind that? In the best scenario, coffee being an antioxydant "might" reduce wrinkles or skin aging?
Caffeine reduces collagen synthesis in human cultured skin fibroblasts. Low collagen can result in more wrinkles. We start losing collagen in our 20's. By the time we are 80, we have very little collagen left.
bless u
Eat your Jell-O 😊
I've been taking collagen for a couple of years now, now for pepsids being in collegen, it makes me sick to my stomach, so now I been searching out brands without pepsides
Peptides.
The whole collagen fad oh I see this is an infomercial lol
there's always gatekeepers no matter the subject.
Marine is better also because usually it has lower molecular weight, and that's very important in terms of absorption, and that's why there's so many studies showing that collagen don't do anything, because they probably don't do it with a low molecular weight collagen, and low molecular weight can be any type, animal, sea, etc.. as long as they did it the correct way. Best
What's up with those eye brows?!
My brother has arthritis (late 20s). I told him to take collagen, and he feels better.
So F medical academia.
Your title has nothing to do with the actual content !
Meow
Clickbait. It's an ad. It's a military wannabe.
So many so called experts say, collagen has no impact on improving joints. My body says otherwise! I have worked in human clinical research for years and I am very aware of what research (hint - results/or hypothesis) get sponsored and what does not.
Supplements are a waste of money, buy bones and make soup.
I tend to find strange to believe that collagen supplementation is actually helpful at the same time you are promoting it