THE EXORCIST 4K UHD REVIEW + SUPER 8 COPY + CREEPSHOW BLU-RAY SERIES 1 to 3
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- čas přidán 19. 09. 2023
- What I still consider to be the best horror movie ever made, The Exorcist, arrives on 4K UHD disc in its 50th year. This is the latest in a long line of home movie releases of this title which began in 1980 with the first Super 8 400ft reel release. In this video I take a look at both including that original release running through an Elmo GS1200 Super 8 projector in our home cinema.
The 4K disc is excellent and highly recommended. My opinion of the image quality is that it is too good for this film and I explain why I think that. The original mono soundtrack is included but there is a new Dolby Atmos track which although it's pretty amazing it does distract me at times owing to many of the sound effects being re-worked or changed. Image aspect ratio is 1.85:1. There are two versions of the film each on their own 4K disc - the original theatrical version and a so-called 'extended director's cut' which I had a quick look at but did not like what I saw. Changes have adversely affected the film and this is confirmed by William Friedkin in an extra feature on the second 'extended cut' Blu-ray who explains why he agreed to create this longer version of the film. I mention the prevalence of film grain owing to much of The Exorcist taking place in dark sets or at night and this does result in variable grain structures and particularly when subtitles have been optically inserted which exacerbates this further. There is one scene I did not mention where there is a facial close-up in the dark and something odd happens with the film grain which is on the move. I do not know if this was a deliberate effect or whether it is the result of the scanning process which interprets film grain incorrectly sometimes. It hardly spoils the overall disc which is almost 35mm film-like quality for a current cost of just £20. The Blu-rays aren't of quite the same high standard so once you've seen the 4K you won't ever want to run the Blu-ray again.
This 4K was released in the UK on 18th September 2023 and I purchased mine from HMV for £19.99 which seems pretty good value given there are four discs included in the pack.
Also featured in this video are the new Blu-ray releases of the Shudder series 1 to 3 of Creepshow. I'm still watching these but so far they're all excellent and in my opinion better than the original two Creepshow films upon which they are based. Sound and image (1.85:1) are the best of Blu-ray quality. If you enjoy anthology horror films or great movies such as Halloween then you should love these Creepshow series. The 'Creep' is at his best and tops and tails each opening, closing and link between the two stories in each episode. £29.99 per series and it's released 25th September 2023.
The Exorcist mass-hysteria documentary made in 1974 as mentioned in this video can be seen here: • Video
For details of the upcoming 'Film Is Fabulous!' event being hosted by the De Montfort University with the BFCC team go to the NEXT EVENT page of www.bfcc.biz - Krátké a kreslené filmy
In 1983, I watched the 10th anniversary rerelease at a midnight showing. That was my first full viewing of this masterpiece. I was sixteen at the time. Great memory. To this day, it’s not only my favorite horror film, it’s one of my favorite films from any genre. I can’t wait to get the collectors 4k edition.
Now I’m fifty-six and getting tickets for the Oct 1st fiftieth anniversary rerelease at a local theater.
The trouble is that these days it's only going to be a video projection in a cinema so a lot of the realism of the 35mm will be lost. But hopefully the big screen effect and maybe a load of people who haven't seen it before will make it another memorable experience. Have a great time. Send us a post card! John.
Wow! I’m almost the same age and saw it in 1983 for the first time also. There was a nationwide re-release, not just midnight shows. And of course it would have been 35mm in those days. I was horrified and exhilarated. I got to watch it again the following week.
@@garyrichardson475 @txmoney do you guys recall if the exorcism sequence with Fr. Merrin looked as deeply blue as it has on Blu-ray and now 4k? Or did it have a more natural, 70s-brownish look to it?
Great to see comments from people who saw it in the 80’s re-release, there was also another cinema re-release of it in 1990/91 alas I was still too young to see it in the cinema even then, I had read the novel when I was sixteen and then finally got to see it on video courtesy of my cousin who had managed to get the first VHS tape release from a video shop back in 1981 before the Video Recordings Act came into effect and James Ferman told all us Brits NO! You cannot have The Exorcist on video anymore!
There was also a 30th anniversary release, the extended cut(spider walk, different ending, longer dialogue between Merin and Carras during the exorcist, outside the room e.t.c...) in 2003.That was the second time I ever saw it on the big screen.
I really wish the US version included the Blu-Rays and the far superior UK cover.
I only learned you'd been short changed when the first comments came in on this video. Fancy not using the original poster art which is one of the most identifiable in movie history. Someone needs a lesson in film history at WB in the USA I think. John.
The Iraq scenes of The Exorcist were always my favorite. I really need to pick up this 4k. I, too, only have the old cardboard Warner DVD. Interestingly, when working at a cinema in Houston, TX, I met Bill Friedkin when he was in town for a sporting event. He came to our theater to watch "The Stepford Wives." He was surprised that I recognized him in person (I didn't think it was strange, being a film fanatic). I managed to run upstairs, get a poster of "The Hunted" (one of his later films) and had him sign it. I have it framed in my screening room. Great as usual, John.
Well I wish you'd got me a signed poster of The Exorcist at the same time James! Well done for spotting him. That man made some great films. Such a shame he's died just as his most famous is getting lots of attention once more. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Me too. I wish I could have gotten an Exorcist, French Connection, or Sorcerer poster signed, but beggars can't be choosers. He was a very gracious and nice man. I would like to get your thoughts on "The Sorcerer." I know there is a 4k Criterion of it coming soon from what I've heard.
@@axisandallies79 The opening of The Sorcerer is at odds with the rest of the film. It gives the impression you're about to see a globe trotting, action adventure crime story and then it morphs into The Wages of Fear. If it had have opened up with the characters in that South American location without the audience being told their background and how they came to end up there then it would have been even more powerful to watch than it already was. That was the mistake with that film but that's just my opinion. I think William Friedkin was attempting to distance his version of the film from the earlier French work of art and that was how the error came about. I have the Blu-ray so I don't suppose i'll be getting the 4K when it arrives. I hope it's another top-notch release though and it sells well. I might get the Criterion of After Hours as I've had a number of people tell me it's one of their favourites. I had a lot of similar comments for The Sorcerer and that was why I got the Blu-ray. John.
Another great one John! Friedkin’s Sorcerer is Highly Recommended
I need to watch The Wages of Fear again because I haven't seen it in a long time but I thought it was the better version. The opening of Friedkin's remake/alternative version of the same story rather spoiled Sorcerer at the outset. Good film even so. John.
Sorcerer is my favourite film of his. Also check out the Kino Lorber 4K of To Live & Die In LA, some have criticised the remaster as being too bright, but IMO it works since its pure sun drenched nirvana😂 It was the 80s after all.
That's one film that desperately needs a 4k UHD release.
@@spaceodds1985 I keep forgetting to get To Live And Die In LA. I need a secretary!
The Exorcist is great, but I believe Sorcerer is Friedkin's true masterpiece.
The exorcist is one of those films that seemed to stay in cinemas for late friday showings around the country for decades thanks to no home release. When it was still unavailable in the home i found a betamax copy at a bootsale, no betamax to play it on though. Finally saw it when it got a widespread theatrical rerelease prior to its certification for home release
First home movie release was 1980 but it wasn't the complete film of course so it was still worthwhile heading to a cinema. Not so these days given most are not able to screen 35mm and give us that convincing, natural imagery that a movie like this demands. For just £20 though the quality of this new 4K release is astounding. I never would have thunk it possible with a dark, dingy film like The Exorcist... but I do still think it's more effective as a slighly grubby film print. John.
I am just happy that they included both versions rather than force us to watch just one. Another interesting and informative video.
I don't think I'll ever be watching the longer one though Henri. I dipped into it and it was spoiling the film for me so I hope it doesn't do the same for you. I know it too well though so that's probably why. John.
I’m watching this 4K re-master on 30th September on the cinema - My 1st cinema viewing. I’m 40 and I have the current blu ray. It’s a masterpiece of drama, horror and suspense. It tells a human story. I will be buying the 4K once I’ve seen it at the cinema. Also - The Exorcist 3 is an incredible procedural detective film, almost like a pre-cursor to David Fincher’s ‘Seven’
The trouble is that will just be a video projection Clark so it won't be any different to what you'll see at home other than a [hopefully] bigger screen. I haven't seen a 35mm print since 1992 but it always gave me a better impression on 35mm than the 4K. It's more real on film and even the Super 8 scores in that regard. Just a shame it wasn't the complete feature on Super 8 all those years ago, now that would have been something back in 1980.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Don’t try and bring my excitement down, John! 😂
In all honesty, it’s just the atmosphere of the cinema - it’s fully booked - they keep re-releasing classics and they fill up more than modern films - full of all sorts of ages/people.
Am guessing it’s also the directors cut they’re screening with the pointless extra scenes and those stupid subliminal demon flashes.
We are all very blessed that you decided to start a CZcams channel to share your movie knowledge with us
@@alexdas2000 Kind of you to say so Alex. Other reviewers have apparently claimed some of the dimly lit set scenes are poor quality but I don't entirely agree with them as that's the nature of the film and also how film stock responds to light levels. But it's always best to just have a look and make up your own mind. I think the quality and the content for just £20 is astounding and it's amazing that something like this can be produced and sold for so little. John.
My first introduction to The Exorcist was on TV in New Zealand circa 1987. I was staying at a friends place and watched it with his family. From memory it was completely uncut. New Zealand TV was good like that back then. It's remained my favourite movie to this day, and still creeps the bejesus out of me
I bet that television station had some complaints the following day. Having said that, there were only 3 million people on the two islands so perhaps they got away with it. I don't know when it was first televised over here but I would expect it to have been substantially cut when it was. Today no one would give a stuff but we're not the same people as we once were.
John.
It wouldn't be a "movie collector" review unless John pulls out the super 8. Unfortunately The Exorcist doesn't have that shock factor anymore because we've seen it so many times. I sometimes feel like Beetlejuice when he says "I've seen the exorcist 167 tines and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it". But I still enjoy it every time. And after all, thats what its all about. You guys in PAL territory are lucky to get the original poster with Father Merin on the cover. Over in NTSC land, we got a wierd colored picture of Regan's face. The Creepshows are excellent as well. They really capture the fun, and feel of the movies. Anyway, great review as always!
Thank you Frank. It is always fun to include a bit of home movie history when it includes the original Super 8 release because most people never realized that market existed and tend to think that the whole movies at home industry began with VHS tape. With regard to the inlay in the USA for this new 4K, someone in WB over there made the wrong choice but it's only a cover and once it's on the shelf it's not going to matter much. I've had quite a few posts from people disappointed that they don't get all the extras on the USA release either but i've pointed out that the Blu-rays in the UK pack have been available for years and they have the extras not the 4K's. A few pounds will find them second hand over here so it's probably the same in America. And most of the extras were on the DVD anyway so you're not missing much at all.
We watched episode 4 of Creepshow series 1 last night which wasn't as good as the other four we've watched so far but it was still good fun. That was on our telly this time which could be why it didn't work so well.
John.
Thanks for mentioning and including a link to The Exorcist | The Cultural Impact (1974 Documentary) video on youtube which I just watched. Didn't realise it was the most successful movie of all time at the U.S. box office. WOW! 😱
The studio were behind whipping up the hysteria Cheekster but by golly, it certainly worked. I expect inflation was rampant at the time The Exorcist was released which would have contributed to it being the biggest grossing film up to that point. Gone With The Wind is still number one in terms of audience as far as I know but I'm happy for anyone reading this to put me right.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 - Loads of people queueing for 3 to 7+ hours in the cold to purchase a ticket. You don’t see that nowadays. What if you needed the toilet?!
Wonderful instalment, John! Loved hearing your recollections of first watching The Exorcist and the incredible dedication that your family showed by splicing together an 8mm film print! Thank you for another informative episode and making me aware of the superb Cinema Retro magazines, which I think is the best magazine about films currently being published.
You and I agree about Cinema Retro, that's for sure Gary. I don't think I've ever seen another film magazine quite like it and only being three times a year makes every issue that much more special. My old dad and I still reminisce quite often about that day we all worked on putting the longest Super 8 version of The Exorcist together. It runs about 53 minutes and it's almost as good as watching the complete thing. Being able to project it as big as possible back then made it so very special. We traumatized a lot of school friends with it back then... and with the full feature of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Video nasty labels didn't apply to film. John.
Yes I really appreciated that story as well. Could picture it very well-staying inside cutting together The Exorcist on Super 8. I would have done the same!
@@slacktoryrecords4193 Dealing with that necessary repeat appearance of The Barringer Clinic took the most time. That was to include the full dialogue "What about your daughter?" which if we cut it so the Barringer Clinic wasn't seen for a second time became "your daughter?" I've since re-recorded it to deal with that little foible so the clinic only appears once. John.
Superb commentary John, thanks as always. I got the extended cut blu-ray for under $10 a few months ago before I was aware of any 4k release news/date. I had not seen the movie in at least 25 years. The spider walk down stairs absolutely gave me a jump and chill; I was not ready for that but maybe it was not in the original cuts I had seen over the years. The quality in hd is plenty good enough for me and after watching your review for the 4k along with other reviewers, I'll be quite content to not double dip for the 4k.
The 4K is more vibrant than the Blu-ray Pete but I don't know if that's how the original 35mm master prints for premiere houses looked at the end of 1973 and through 1974. I've got too used to the more muted look applied to the Super 8 prints but that may well be misleading. The spider walk was interesting as an outtake when I saw it as a deleted scene on the DVD years ago but I could see then that it didn't work. The big problem now is that it's obviously not Linda Blair but perhaps most people are shocked by it and don't notice. I don't know why blood was spewing out of her mouth though because that did not make sense to me. It was fun to see The Exorcist looking so pristine. Who ever would have thunk it could look like this and for us to all purchase it and keep it for £20? I don't think your missing anything by not having the 4K though as the Blu-ray is good enough for this film. Actually, Blu-ray is good enough for most films now that I think about it.
John.
I’m with you John, that The Exorcist is a movie we have all experienced in a rough and grainy version and that lends itself to the documentary feel of the film. The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is the same- I wouldn’t want to see that in HD- it was meant to be a brutal and raw experience.
First time we ran The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was to check the hire print in the afternoon and there was quite a lot of light creeping into the room we screened it in (about 8 feet wide even back then in about 1980). None of us thought it was very scary. Then we all watched it at night with the room being pitch black and that was an entirely different kettle of fish. That one was 16mm and looked horrible but it worked. The Exorcist wasn't the best looking 35mm I ever saw but it's possible the master prints would have resembled this 4K disc much more closely. It's impossible to know today and probably also impossible to ever hope an unfaded master print will ever turn up to check it against. One of the post 1982 low fade stock re-release prints is probably the best we could ever hope for and that might have looked a bit different to the originals. John.
great review John, you got this together so quickly! Really loved hearing about you splicing together the exorcist on a nice summer day. Seems you are able to get a pretty great screen size from where your super 8 projector is now, great to see. Will be picking this one up asap!
Cheers,
Clark
Afternoon Clark. Yes, I have quite a personal history with The Exorcist. I do know the film too well though so I'm probably not the best person to judge the new 4K even though I do appreciate the work that went into creating it and making the film look so pristine. It couldn't have been easy with all those dimly lit set shots and the opticals to insert captions a number of times early on. No doubt a lot of other people will be bemoaning the work and blaming the transfer or other mastering work but as I said, it couldn't have been easy.
I do seem to have got this video done quite quickly. I certainly didn't rush it. Wrote the notes while watching the disc on Monday night, recorded the bits to camera between about 11am and 12am, put the Super 8 up and got those shots sometime after that and then cut it down before getting all the cutaway shots to try to make it more interesting. I had to ditch quite a bit of me blathering on as the video was getting too long but the only important thing was that I said the Blu-rays are as good as the 4K's so you'll never want to watch those again after you've seen the 4K.
John.
Hi John. I love the Exorcist. The last time I saw it was in Copenhagen. It is the best horror film ever made. I offer a warning on this film (which will make you laugh) I first saw it when were screening it for 3 weeks at the cinema I was working in. The Exorcist is a film not to be messed with. We had lots of poltergeist activity and people contacting the cinema. I wont go into detail on here as it's not the right thing to do on YT. I have only ever seen it in cinemas. I have a couple of various DVD releases at home of The Exorcist, but the cellophane is still intact. I will never run this movie at home. Great video. Thank you.
Oh, you are going to have to tell me all about that one day Fred. I have run the film at home and I can't tell you how many times but so far nothing too awful has happened. We do have zombies all over the local streets but I'm sure that's not related to running The Exorcist too many times.
I've really been enjoying your uploads lately. The Parisian cinemas today were wonderful. You've done us all a service by recording such important cultural history from all these projection booths over the years. My favourite was and always will be The Empire after the 1989 refit. I'd like a laser show just like it before every show in here.
Right, I'm off into the cinema. Tonight it's the Blu-ray of Paul Verhoeven's The Black Book which I don't think I've seen since 2006 or 2007.
Talk to Ben Wales about joining us at Film Is Fabulous! It would be lovely to welcome you there.
John.
This must of been my first cinema experience. I was born in October 74 and my mum and dad went to see the movie when she was pregnant.
No wonder you turned out the way you did Jay!!! John.
Another fantastic video, thank you. I do like your trips into the Super 8 collection.
As for the Exorcist, I first saw it in the rerelease in 1992 and it had gain a certain mystique as you couldn’t see it. I do remember it being wonderfully grainy. Dave
I think the film grain has been reined in as usual but it's often still obvious and particularly so when captions or subtitles are on the screen. It varies though and that's what I'd expect with a film that had so much shot in the dark or on dimly lit sets. It's impressive work to get it looking this good but too good perhaps. The film grain isn't so obvious on the Super 8 reels which is interesting given the diminutive scale. It's that scanning process that exacerbates it.
John.
Thoughtful and thorough review! Many thanks. Your dedication is appreciated. Cheers from Canada.
You're welcome and thank you. John.
Hi, john.
Glad you enjoyed this new restoration. I also thought the detail levels were pretty incredible, and the depth of the colours and shadows were stunning.
That being said, the dip in quality during the exorcism really threw me out of the film. The image looked incredibly smoothed over, and the new colour was smeared all over the shop (notice the way Father Merrin's hands turn the same bright red as his Bible).
My personal theory, knowing Friedkin's penchant for revisionism, is that this scene was not sourced from the same material as the rest of the film, but from some previous master. Putting in the blu-ray from many years ago, the scene does look suspiciously similar in both versions, but with heavy noise reduction and colour that looked like a toddler with HDR crayons was allowed free-reign in the colouring suite.
Besides this scene and the occasional anomaly, I thought this was a stunning release. The scene of Chris in the attic, in particular, has never worked better for me. With those jet-black shadows, the immersive new atmos track and the blinding light from the HDR during the jumpscare, it was a real stand-out moment for me.
All the best
It's possible that not all of the latest video version was a transfer from the original camera negative because it's unlikely that's survived unscathed enough to be used throughout. But the majority of the variable image quality will be down to light levels and the way the negative film stock responds. There was one brief facial close-up (can't remember exactly where now) where the film grain went mad and swirled around but I can't be sure why that was or if it was a deliberate low light choice at the time it was shot. Whatever the case it didn't give a great impression but overall this 4K does give a great impression.
John.
I really enjoyed this review John. It's an all time favourite movie of mine. I'm just deciding whether to splash out on the deluxe edition or not. I love the personal touch you add to your videos. It appears like me your love of movies stemed from your dad exactly like me. We matched many movies together over the years and always loved talking movies together. He passed away last year sadly and I miss him terribly. In some ways I find that your reviews keep him alive in some ways and that gives me great consolation at times. Thank you for that and keep up the great work! Regards Alan
It's sad to hear you've lost your father Alan. I still have mine but he's an old crock now and losing his marbles to boot. Some days he's still surprisingly coherent but we usually have a good laugh when we talk on the phone. I quite often remind him about The Barringer Clinic and he remembers it well. My brother and I were both under age when we purchased those Super 8 reels but our parents had given up trying to stop us seeing all these horror movies long before then. Sometimes we'd be gone for hours and not told them we were going to try to sneak into the local cinema to see the latest 'X' certificate. We must have really put them through it. However, it was really a combination of elements that led me into a lifelong interest in fllms and moving images. My brother was a big influence and the game changer there was when he managed to get in to see Alien at the age of 16 and told me all about it when he got home. I looked 12 at the time so I stood no chance of seeing it. It started a bit of an obsession though.
John.
Thanks so much for this awesome video! Valuable indeed to hear about the legacy home video releases and their picture qualities. I really look forward to getting my hands on the 4k UHD, but I hear that there is too much DNR applied in the bed room scenes. But will still be a joy no doubt. Thanks again for sharing you insights.
Don't take any notice about any image noise reduction Bob because they all have some applied owing to the scanning process Bob. Dimly lit sets create a coarser film grain structure that the scanning exacerbates and it means poorer definition anyway. If it was excessive during that sequence I didn't notice but I was looking at the grain structure throughout and the variability of it mainly owing to the light levels. People who don't understand film wouldn't be able to discuss that side of it.
John.
Another brilliant review there John
I like the fact that you also have the 1x400ft release on super 8. It's the copy I am looking for but one thing I have to ask you is the sound good on your 1x400ft version. Keep up the great work, I would like to see more of your super 8 films. Andrew.
The sound is better on the 3x400ft but only because it was louder. I've re-recorded that now so that the levels don't change when the edited in sequences from the 400ft appear on screen. However, the 400ft print quality was a bit better than the slightly more dupey look of the 3x400ft. It's was always a bit of a minefield between different releases of the same film on Super 8 back then. The 400ft 18 minute edition is a more successful condensation of the film in my opinion but once they're cut together then that's the best Super 8 version. John.
One of my favourites, John. I had the NTSC Laserdisc back in the day, which was great to have back in the 90’s in the UK (along with A Clockwork Orange).
One thing that always annoyed me is that the brilliant The Fear of God documentary (by Mark Kermode & Nick Freand Jones) was never made available in it’s full version on the blu-ray & dvd releases. Thankfully the full version is available on the BBCi Player.
Keep up the good work, John. 👍
I didn't know The Fear of God has a longer version Gary. Shame I can't watch anything on the BBC as I don't pay them their tax. Unlike the millions who have walked away in the last couple of years I gave up on them back in 2010. John.
You bring back so many memories of the days when I watched my super 8 movies. Thanks for all your comments.
Super 8 is still a lot of fun today so it's never too late. John.
Ah The Exorcist- one of the all time greats - good to see your review as always and the ticket stub - I saw it in the cinema on that release in Dublin can you believe - on a Sunday as well but my fondest memory was having a friend bring back this, A Clockwork Orange and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre back from Seattle on NTSC VHS, still have those 3 tapes and the beautiful German Fischer VHS player that would convert to PAL to enable watching at home - again you’ve awoken a few memories with this one John - thank you
You're welcome Dean. I think you'll be quite surprised with the quality of The Exorcist on this 4K disc if you see it. I know it so well on Super 8 that it's hard to watch it looking so pristine. Not all of it of course as it's The Exorcist and it's a dark film for much of it, but the colour and density throughout are impressive irrespective of the low light generating the coarser film grain at times. John.
@@moviecollector5920 it’s definitely one I’ll have to pick up and I’m very glad that they’ve retained the original artwork as Jeff is right about how strange and cheap the new US case looks -I noticed they’ve changed it on the Apple TV streaming to the new design as well
@@deanrussell2224 Strange that anyone in the film industry would ever use anything for The Exorcist other than the original poster art. It's one of the most historic and identifiable film posters of all time. I'm not sure we have many of the right people in the film industry today. John.
John, you are my go-to authority for reviews now...
I've been obsessed (Possessed?) with The Exorcist, since I first saw it projected in our local working-men's club in 1979 (I was 14 years-old)!
I've owned every release, in every commercial format; VHS, VCD (Eastern Import) Dvd and Blu ray...
It's my birthday on Friday, so I'll probably blow my birthday-money on the 4K!
I thought Friedkin's intro and words on 'The Version You've Never Seen' to be a lame justification, for a rather blatant cash-grab.
Like you, I thought the 'Spider-Walk' was very interesting to see (Finally) but, overall, I thought it was a weaker film for the inclusion!
The Exocrist 1973, theatrical-cut is a masterpiece of cinema for many reasons... The photography, the acting, the make-up and the tight editing!
The glee on your face, when recounting the memory of cutting your Super 8 together with your Father, was palpable! Utterly charming.
Thanks again John for another superb review 🙂
You'll have to track down the Super 8 releases too though otherwise your home movie The Exorcist collection will not be complete! Then there will be a 16mm print to find too and how about a 35mm? Then again, the 4K is a cheaper alternative and I don't think you'll be disappointed. It is more colourful in places and sometimes it's too good so you can see how the low light has resulted in increased film grain and the resultant decrease in definition that goes with it. Others think that's something to do with the transfer or image noise reduction but I was looking at grain all the way through as I recall so I don't agree with them. It's a masterpiece of cinema and I agree with all you've said. As for the memories of putting that extended Super 8 version together more than 40 years ago, my old dad and I still talk about that to this day. He'll never forget the Barringer Clinic.
By the way, that spider walk sequence - it's too obvious it's not Linda Blair and should never have been included for that reason alone.
John.
Excellent video! Thanks for the knowledgeable review. I saw it at the cinema back in the long ago when I was 9 years old. It left quite an impression but I can't remember the color timing etc the way they can on the internet. Looking forward to watching my copy this weekend.
I think I'd have been scarred for life if I'd have seen this at nine years old Alex! I have seen it twice at the cinema (35mm) and I can remember the 1992 show I went to. It wasn't as colourful as this and neither is the Super 8 print but it is possible that original 35mm master prints for premiere houses had prints that looked like this or similar to this. Who can tell after almost 50 years? I enjoyed seeing the more vibrant colours at times but at other times it seemed to adversely affect the horror of it all. But for £20 to get this sort of quality to keep, who on earth could ever complain?
John.
Thank you for reminding me of Cursed Films. I need to pick this and Exorcist up. The Crow is a masterpiece that needs a 4K release.
The Crow is a very interesting installment of the Cursed Films series Chucky Boy. They're all good and you may find The Exorcist informative, particularly when it goes into a section about a chap who gets money from people clearly suffering with mental issues by performing exorcisms on them. Some people genuinely believe all this sort of thing.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 thanks John. I have The Crow on blu ray and it’s only 1080i. It deserves a 4K remaster.
Just picked up the new Warner Brothers 4k steelbook that just got released. The collectors edition looked nice but that sold out quick! those ebay gremlins are crazy fast lol i was pretty lucky in getting the steelbook as that sold out pretty fast too. An absolute masterpiece in film.
I hope you love re-visiting this amazing work or art that pushed the boundaries of acceptability in 1973/74. It's near 35mm quality, perhaps a little too colourful on occasion but that's open to debate. John.
Still the BEST horror film even in 2023 nice to see your collection thanks
I've never seen anything as powerful. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is effective but it's just not in the same league really. That's a horrible but impressive film, The Exorcist is a great film or the highest order. John.
One of my absolute favorite movies. I know what you mean about it looking "too" clean. I've had this on Blu-ray since it released but I actually watched it on VHS last October and was surprised at how much that degraded presentation added to the overall vibe -- it reminded me of the first time I watched it.
It's one of those films that needs to make you struggle to see into the darkest corners of the frame. The 4K is an impressive piece of work but it loses a bit of the mysterious nature of the film as most of us knew it previously. How it looked when originally released is open to question and it's unlikely I'll ever get an unfaded 1973/74 35mm master print to check it so it's possible the 4K is closer than what we've had before. But I do think the colour is too rich at times. I could be wrong though.
John.
Hello, John! Awesome review, as always!!
I have never seen this movie. Perhaps now is the right time.
I just received "Ad Astra" and plan to watch it this week. I remember you said few good things about it.
We are back from the trip! It would be great to hear from you.
Dmitri
Ad Astra has two rather silly sequences in it to appease the teenager/twenty something market that makes up the majority of cinema goers these days but apart from that, it's a work of art. Apocalypse Now in space in a way. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. As I recall I watched it twice and on consecutive nights.
That was quite a trip you were on there Dmitri. Shame you didn't call into London on the way home to see OPPENHEIMER but we can't have everything in life all of the time. John.
Thanks for the review! I really enjoy your reviews overall! live in the U.S. and am disappointed by the lack of extras on that release. On the UK 4-disc version, what are the regions for those discs? Are any of them region B, which I cannot play?
I think it does state they're zone B on the case but whether or not it's actually been applied I can't be sure. However, the only new extras are on the extended version of the Blu-ray disc so it might be possible to get that cheaply separately. Nothing much on there though so if you already have a previous DVD you've probably got the lot apart from those newer three shorts. John.
Thanks so much for sharing some of your personal history with the home video releases of such an important movie! I’m with you, I still feel it’s the scariest horror movie yet made! I’ve not picked up the 4K yet but I will do very soon. 🙌💿
A lot of people do seem to be watching review videos for this one so it could be a good one for you to get done. I suppose that will quickly diminish but I decided to do it a few days before it was out so that I could include the Creepshow Blu-ray discs within something that more people were likely to watch. That does seem to have worked.
See what you think of the vibrant, pristine looking new video version of The Exorcist. I know the film far too well so I kept getting distracted by modifications to how it looked and sounded. But without an unfaded 35mm original master print who knows how it really looked originally?
John.
Amazing collection and review. Thank you!! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thank you Thiago. John.
John, Thank you for sharing always excited when your new videos come up on CZcams.❤
You're welcome Gurdip and kind of you to say so. It seems The Exorcist still has quite a following judging by the views this video is getting. It's unusual for a 4K review video to generate this much interest these days. John.
@@moviecollector5920 John, Your presentation and attention to details on your movie reviews is the best on CZcams. You rarely see this. Again, very kind of you to share your passion with us movie fans.
The spider walk spoiled it for me as well. I’m glad I’m not alone in that.
It's so obvious it's not Linda Blair. And the blood just doesn't fit the film. William Friedkin was certainly right to cut it even if they could have removed the wires successfully from the image back then. John.
Hi John! I am giggling a bit as I watch this just remembering sharing some of your similar memories of this film. Mostly as a youngster being shooed out of the room as my mother was watching this apparently to protect me hahaha Then finding by accident as a young teen late late on the tele THIS film again and being scared out of my wits lol my head under a blanket hiding as it played on unable to click the channel button on the remote hahahProbably a must add for the reasons you mentioned to sit beside my old dvd copy . As you alluded to the bedroom scenes may just be better without the clean look. Very interested in the 5.1 added soundscape in Atmos... Thanks for the Creepshow reccommendation I now must see these... It is late now and time to nod off I just cannot tell you i am not a bit afraid now to turn down that light hahah My best to you and thanks for this ! Dave!
I think The Exorcist had an effect on a lot of us when we were young but today we can watch it without fear (well not much anyway) and appreciate it for the great work of art that it is and the personal memories we hold of when we first saw it and were scared to death.
I hope to get back into watching Creepshow this evening as this review video has taken up rather a lot of time so I haven't had the chance. It's been terrific so far and I'm enjoying it much more than the two films... or was it three? If you do get one or more of the new series releases Dave then I'm sure you'll let me know what you think.
John.
According to Friedkin, that medic was convicted as the killer depicted in his later film, 'Cruising.'
I never knew that Rene. How interesting. John.
@@moviecollector5920 if you watch the special features of 'Cruising' he tells the story. He even interviewed the guy in prison about the crimes.
I agree with you in that it is my all-time top horror film.
Even half a century later, what that demon did to Regan -- especially with that crucifix -- scarred me for life.
I expect we're about to find out just how good this film still is 50 years on Sam given that there has been a new film made with Ellen Burstyn reprising her role. It looks pretty awful from the previews I've seen but I'm sure it won't be anywhere near as bad as it looks. Then again... John.
Great video John i will have to check this out as i haven't watched it for years .
I hope you like the work that has been done Paul. A little more vibrant than we've ever seen it before perhaps but the sound is pretty spectacular despite some of the sound effects being a little different. Most won't notice. John.
Awesome review! Thanks so much. Love the home video history. Question: on the 4K theatrical cut, does it open with the original Warner Bros. logo by Saul Bass?
I can't remember for certain Logan. I'm so used to seeing it on the Super 8 releases that I could have missed it on the 4K. Be pretty stupid to change that all these years later. John.
Ive just ordered it today.
Great review boss👍
For me the exorcist is the greatest horror movie ever made nothing comes close.
Excorsist 3 is also a great horror quite creepy too.
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I nearly purchased the Blu-ray of Exorcist 3 at the same time as I haven't seen it since it was on general release and I think that was 1991 or 92. I thought it was scary. Based on Blatty's book Legion as I recall. I hope you like the 4K. It's impressive but maybe a little too impressive. John.
Great review, thank you. Just discovered your channel and defiantly worth a follow!
Good to have you here Glenn. There's a good group of film enthusiasts on here so you're in the right place. John.
I picked up the UK version on 4K because I wanted that classic cover - was surprised to find out the Blu-rays played on my machine in the States!
That's good. Sometimes the covers state there is a zone applied to a BD when there isn't. At other times it can be bypassed as with all Criterion releases up to now I think. John.
Another highly enjoyable watch. Your video postings are simply outstanding and I can't wait for the next ones to come up. Your insightful knowledge is what makes watching your videos compelling and fascinating. I was aghast when you said this is (The Exorcist) the best horror movie ever made but yet again your deep understanding about this film supported your claim. I can understand now why you said that because so many horror movies copied it like Poltergeist, Halloween, Freddie Krugger. It set the template for films thereafter.
I think The Exorcist has to be viewed in the context of being released at the end of 1973. Imagine just happening to fancy seeing a scary little flick at your local cinema back then and you didn't know exactly how compelling The Exorcist is. The realism of the proceedings too - that drew me in and made me think this sort of nonsense really could occur somewhere. In my defense I was young and Christianity still existed in quite a big way and had had some sort of influence on most of us at the time. Other films may have come along and been influenced or imitated what was started in The Exorcist but no other shocker or horror movie that I have seen has not only made the same impact but also been held in the same critical regard. I think it's still unique to this day despite the passage of time and all the attempts to surpass it.
Thank you for letting me you enjoy the videos. Tonight I think we'll be watching The Flash. I'm expecting a complete load of tosh but curious to see Michael Keaton as Batman which is why I purchased a copy.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 In reference to the film version of The Flash, Michael Keaton was superb in it.
@@chemistfacade I very much enjoyed The Flash. I didn't realize it was going to be a comedy but right from the outset I was laughing and that carried on all the way through. What a surprise. I don't go in for comic book films much any longer so it was nice to see a different approach which meant I could accept the unrealistic computer effects. The falling babies and that dog were hilarious even if it was obviously a cartoon. I think it worked better that way. Usually these films take themselves seriously and they possibly fail as a result of that. John.
Excellent review. Great to hear the comparison of the 4k to the super 8 version. It would have been nice to see some super 8 footage in the extras as they did with the release of The Incredible Shrinking Man blu ray release a few years back. Keep up the great work!
It is difficult to give a true representation of Super 8 on video though Liam but it would have been educational to show the whole of that 18 minute 400ft Super 8 edit within the 4K pack to show how home movies used to be enjoyed before the advent of home video. John.
Very true John. The best way to digitally capture super 8 footage seems to be to project the image directly onto a camera lens rather than to capture the image from a screen. I've never tried it myself but I will be giving it a go at some point. I picked up a Noris 410 super 8 projecter from an online charity shop a few months back but sadly it's been back twice to a cine repair man by the name of John White who is based in Middlesex. I don't think he's willing to continue with the repairs although i've paid over £100 so far on repairs and postage. He has said he's looking out for a working machine for me and offered to partially compensate my losses so far. That was over 2 weeks ago and i've heard nothing back from him yet. Are you familiar with this super 8 repair man? I will be contacting him before the end of the week but i'm not sure how to move forward with this situation. Any advice would be very much appreciated Thanks John. Kind regards Liam. . @@moviecollector5920
@@liammartin8606 John kept my Chinon SS1200 functioning years ago but I worked that machine beyond its design limitations. He was a darned good repair man. I think you should just get another projector from a dealer and perhaps keep the old one for spares. Noris machines do come up but they're probably clones or very similar to other makes and models.
I transfer Super 8 using an aerial image system. This means the film is video recorded in mid air. Unlike scanning a film it's a photographic process and seems to result in more natural looking imagery at the end of the process. It does require a lot of setting up and fiddling to get it in focus all the way across and up and down the image.
John.
Thanks for the info regarding the digital capture of the super 8 image John.
You've certainly gone the extra mile with the aerial image process and i'm sure the results are excellent.
I'm currently watching 3 Noris 410 machines on ebay and they all seem to be in good to fair condition. Not sure if any are clones as I wouldn't know what a clone would look like. I do like this model as it's sturdy, compact and easy to use. I'm familiar with the Noris 410 and funtions after owning one over 25 years ago.
John White's work so far has been excellent apart from this last unfortunate oversight.
Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. @@moviecollector5920
The Exorcist is one of my favourites John. I've got that very same region 1 DVD, it qas the first DVD I bought. I'll be off to HMV this weekend to pick up a copy of the 4K.
Well I hope really enjoy revisiting this masterpiece from 1973/73 Steve. It's a little more colourful than I've ever seen it but most people will probably love that. I know the film too well so it was a little distracting at times but I do appreciate the work that went into this and for just £19.99 to keep forever - hopefully!
John.
Totally understand your point that the 4K is actually looking too "good". There were some movies back then where "bad" quality gave them a particular flavor. To see them in all their glory can almost work against it. 😉
I think the original look of the film has been changed though. The colour looks vibrant and I don't think I ever saw it looking quite that vivid but without a 35mm Technicolor print to check it against - and I don't think they ever even existed - then there's no way to know for definite. Whether or not it's been too cleaned up in places is another possibility but I was looking at film grain all the way through so compromises do have to be made after a film has been scanned for a video release. It's magnificent work though whatever slight doubts I may have mooted.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 You probably would know way more than I how it should or has looked. Haven't seen it in a long time and will see what the 4K or BD with the new transfer holds for me. Sometimes the changes aren't for the better. On the other hand there are probably releases that looked wrong through all their physical releases until a new scan was done. And even if the director says it should look this way, we still could like a different color scheme better. What makes older movies better in that regard, I think there were not as tempered with as new ones with all the digital changes you can make these days. 😉
@@dbdeets A lot of modern movies do look over processed at times. Things used to be a lot simpler and quite often that was for the better. I don't know what most people would prefer with regards to The Exorcist but I know it too well and therefore found the apparent enhancements on the new 4K a little distracting. I'm told the Blu-rays in the pack are the same Blu-rays that were released years ago. John.
@@moviecollector5920 So at least a little compromise then. 😉
Dieter
Hi John. My grandad and I had that Super 8 short of The Exorcist. I watched it many times. Happy memories :)
I expect those reels are worth quite a lot of money today. Actually they cost quite a lot of money back in 1980 now that I think about it. John.
I ordered this 4K release last week and will pick it up from a relatives at the weekend. I haven't seen it in quite a few years. So looking forward to seeing the update.@@moviecollector5920
The 4k extended cut much better than the bluray, atmos track fantastic. Love the spider crawl.
Amaze you have so many format of the movie.
Glad you like the extended version of the film Robert. I don't think I'll ever watch it but William Friedkin is honest about it in that little extra featurette. Usually directors blather on about how they had to make cuts and all that but Friedkin gives us the truth. How refreshing. John.
I will going to the cinema this Sunday to see it and hear it in Ultra 4k hd. It's only playing on the 1st and 4th of October but is going to be full house no doubt in preparation for the new Exorcist: Believer, coming out on the 7th I believe. I'm sure for new generation of young movie goers this one will be number 1 on opening weekend. Great analysis.
The Exorcist attracted all generations back in 1973 but I think many of us who have appreciated that film down the years are going to avoid the re-hash or whatever it is. I may be wrong and happy to be so but there are some films that should never be messed with and this is one of them. Enjoy seeing The Exorcist at the cinema. It's a terrible shame you won't get the chance to see it on film in top quality as we all did but to be fair to the cinema industry there's just not the audience of the money in it any longer.
John.
Very interesting thanks. I've picked up the 4k saving it for closer to Halloween
I should give it a watch and then perhaps try the extended cut at Halloween. Or better still, get that Creepshow series one and have a great time going through that all evening long. John.
Good spot with the car lights. Must have seen The Exorcist fifty times and never noticed.
It helps when you're working on a review and studying everything because I'd never noticed it before either. John.
Great informative video as ever 👏 Ive watched the Exorcist directors cut on 4k bluray, and for me this is the best its ever looked, but the biggest surprise was the new Dolby Atmos soundtrack, lots of scares throughout, the movie sounds so atmospheric great job by Warner Bros on the 4k bluray..regards.
Thank you Kevin. If I watch this disc again I'll set it to the original mono sound. I did enjoy the surround sound but I think I preferred the previous 5.1 on the DVD. It had been too re-worked for me because I know it so well. Watching the Super 8 so many times and then creating a stereo english master for the German language 3x400ft cut down meant I played the tracks backwards and forwards so many times that they're imprinted in my brain. To hear the effects sounding different and/or enhanced was a little too distracting at times. John.
@moviecollector5920 Thanks John from your excellent video of the Exorcist, I can see your a big fan of this classic you know it so well much respect. Yes the Dolby Atmos soundtrack was really scary throughout, especially when there are above noises coming from the attic *scene* where Regans mother investigates thinking there are rats running around, you can here all the sound effects from above your head, I found that impressive John. Next time I watch it will be the Theatrical cut on 4k bluray, it well worth the pickup. 👍
@@kevinrobertbrown2351 And it was only £20 Kevin. I find that incredible. All that quality and four discs included for £20!
Hi John. I do enjoy watching your more laid back movie reviews. I also think that you do pretty good camera work on your own as well. I remember seeing THE EXORCIST in its original release in the theater. I remember it being intensely advertised on the radio and those commercials were pretty intense. Back then we had one movie theater in town and it was very nice with rocker seating and had a very large wide screen. It was called The Village Theater and saw some really great movies like Dr. Zhivago in there. THE EXORCIST was very impactful on the big screen and they had the sound really cranked up which added even more impact to the film. I remember when the credits started to roll at the end of the film one male viewer stood up and loudly declared 'THAT G*******M MOVIE!" LOL! Guess he didn't like being scared watching a film. Speaking of Dr. Zhivago I have been waiting for its 4k release as the blu-ray is quite bad. Many people have complained because the main character was such a shallow person in not being faithful to his wife but he was a man of many emotions being forced to witness many atrocities during the Russian Revolution and forced into service. The movie had a steller cast and was beautifully shot and I think deserves a 4k upgrade.
The new soundtrack on The Exorcist is certainly effective and probably more so than it's ever been. But I'm a bit too used to the original sound effects so it rather distracted me on occasion. Not that it mattered thought because I practically know the film off by heart. Dr. Zhivago - I'm quite happy with the Blu-ray. Perhaps there is more than one version out there. It's an interesting film but frightening too because the sort of things we see in that film following the second revolution in 1917 are similar to some things that are going on over here now. Even more worrying is that these things seem to be accelerating and are likely going to get worse before they get better. Frightening times.
John.
Maybe my blu-ray of Dr. Zhivago has deteriorated as it looks no better than a DVD. Maybe I should just purchase another copy. I'll check Amazon or e-bay for the best price. Yes, it is true of what is going on with the advancement of Socialism these days. Especially in the US. With the protesting going on from socialist groups just like in the Russian Revolution we must stand against such if we want to protect our freedoms. Thanks John. @@moviecollector5920
This is interesting Daniel and possibly tells us something about some of the big internet names because your reply to my response to you was put into the 'held for review' section. I've cleared it of course but so far it doesn't seem to have made it back into here. We are living through frightening times and I'm sure most would agree with that but it seems to be a risky conversation even when it's part of our discussion of the Blu-ray of Dr. Zhivago. Ridiculous but there we are. I don't think it's possible for the image quality of a Blu-ray to deteriorate so it's more likely to be a setup issue. Have another look at it and make sure it's being output from your playing in HD. Also make sure that someone didn't put a DVD in the Blu-ray case. I only looked at the Blu-ray in here about a year or so ago and for parts of it it was so good it could almost have passed for a transfer of a 70mm print. Other parts were not so good but I wouldn't say I was disappointed with it. I have the version in the HMV packaging with the silver top which I think is called the 'Premium Collection'.
John.
Interesting indeed John. Makes me think of the movie and book 1984 in which 'big brother' watches everything. but anyway my connections are fine. Right now I'm using my XBOX to watch blu-rays and my video game plays beautifully with full HDR. Next month I plan on getting a new high end 4k player. I am looking at a Panasonic UB820 as I've seen good reviews on it. Thnx John. I appreciate how you reply to most everyone's comments. Very few video bloggers take the time to do that. It's fun though isn't it? Seems being a pen pal has almost become a thing of the past. Wish I was able and had the money to come over to jolly 'ol England and pay a visit to you and your wife. Would love to see the land of my ancestors. My ancestor captain James Parker was one of those who came over on the Mayflower. Indeed my family history has been traced all the way back to William The Conqueror. Hope you are well and looking forward to more physical media reviews. @@moviecollector5920
@@danielparker3842 So it was your family who killed King Harold then! if the poor bugger hadn't have had to march the army all the way up North to sort out the viking invaders he'd have probably slaughtered that William the Conqueror chap in the South! What an amazing history this nation has had though and so much of the world is related because of it. I would like to get the 800 series Panny 4K too. The multi-zone, multi-region version is £450 though so it's having to wait.
John.
Not one for me unfortunately, I've just never got on with The Exorcist. Just recently watch The Flash on the 4K disc John, absolutely brilliant to see Keaton as Batman again. Well worth a watch Sir.
And guess which 4K steelbook I purchased alongside The Exorcist on Monday? Yes, I'm curious to see Michael Keaton back as the best ever Batman but I am expecting a complete load of tosh in spite of that. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. John.
Another great video by one of my favourite CZcamsrs. I haven't seen "the exorcist" in more than 30 years as I was traumatised seeing it at such a tender age (thanks dad). If you think the exorcist is scary then you should give "The entity" a watch
Ah yes, The Entity. It s the sound in that one that generates the scary atmosphere. Goes a bit silly for the concluding act. I have the LaserDisc and love it. You'll have to give The Exorcist another try Mobey. A dark room with the sound turned up and the demons will really come out to play. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I think I am ready for a second viewing and will be purchasing the 4k or Blu-ray if not available.
Another great review. I am very grateful that the UK got better version than USA. Brilliant price and better cover than guys across the pond.
Could I suggest you take a look at recent Studio Canal 4k of the others. Best Dolby Atmos track ever.
I do intend to purchase The Others. I didn't think it was out for a week or two yet. An excellent, creepy ghost story. We don't get the like of it any longer but it was already a rarity when it was made. John.
Hey there! this is the 25 year old Nolan birthday guy and just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your Oppenheimer video! So far that and Dunkirk is the only one’s I’ve seen on regular 70MM and was still jaw dropping to the point I went to see Oppenheimer the second time the final week of its showing at Portland Oregon. The B&W scenes are still living rent free in my head lol.
As for The Exorcist, our theater is fortunate enough to have its own 35MM print and we even sometimes screen it with Linda Blair at attendance along with the print itself being autographed by her. I actually read the book first before watching the film so I prefer “the version you’ve never seen” especially how the stairs scene was basically word for word from the book itself for example so I can see why how it won best screenplay. But that doesn’t mean I don’t disagree with Friedkin’s cut and see what he/the studio were going for. I was lucky enough to get the 4K limited Bible edition so I’m waiting for that to come in and it’s been quite awhile since junior high I’ve seen the film itself. I’m hoping they’ll do another 35MM screening at some point so I can compare and everything so we shall see. I definitely recommend reading the book if you haven’t cause it’s just as amazing along with the connections with 3/Legion which I also HIGHLY recommended! 3/Legion is definitely the most misunderstood sequel even though it’s written and directed by Blatty himself. It has George C Scott of Doctor Strangelove/The Changeling and still gives out his all! It’s one of the rare cases too where I prefer the theatrical cut over the directors cut on that one since it does give more of an climatic ending while I debate myself time to time if I prefer it over the original… Your review for the film is excellent overall and hope to someday I can start collecting prints as well! Cheers to you kind sir!- Chris
I think Linda Blair was astounding in this film Chris. A performance like that in a film like this and that age is what made this film what it was. Everyone involved was brilliant but it would have all been for nothing without Linda Blair's performance. I've read the book twice by the way. Saw Exorcist III on first release and thought it was excellent. I will get it on disc one day and in fact I nearly did last Monday but thought I'd leave it a while longer so I could watch it in isolation and let it stand on its own. As for the Nolan films, one day you'll have to see them in genuine IMAX even though the 70mm prints are fabulous enough. The 15/70 prints are simply too amazing to describe without actually seeing them yourself. At least something of cinema as it used to be has survived and we can all get to see how good it once was with films shot and finished on film and distributed as 70mm and 15/70 master prints.
John.
@@moviecollector5920it’s a crime she didn’t get an Oscar but at least we got the film Re-possessed out of it haha! Also glad you enjoyed 3 while now how I’m seeing it’s getting appreciated more as time goes especially thanks to RedLetterMedia reviewing it and such. The books/films will just stand the time of its own and I have my doubts the sequel/reboot trilogy will have the same heights while Friedkin himself said on Twitter no amount of money would made him to agree with it. I didn’t like the Halloween reboot trilogy nor am I the biggest Blumhouse fan neither but we shall see. Hereditary is probably the closest modern exorcism film we’ve achieved yet.
And I do want to see an IMAX 70MM someday and it’s for sure on my bucketlist! If Nolan keeps the birthday tradition going then I’ll book the nearest flight to the LA Chinese or Sacramento theater first thing!
@@moviecollector5920I also picked up To Live And Die In LA, French Connection and Cruising during the week of his passing and being concerned since the digital version of French Connection got censored. I’m hoping we’ll hear something for a 4K version of Sorcerer and Killer Joe
@@chrisv9419 I didn't think very much of the Blade Runner sequel either. To be fair though, how could anything follow the original masterpiece? I didn't care much for the recent Halloween either but there were some good scenes in it. I haven't seen the two follow-ups to that one and I'm not sure I will now. Exorcist III was a scary film right from day one and although it wasn't as highly respected as it probably should have been, it is a sequel and they rarely get as much respect as they should simply because they are sequels. Two exceptions I can think of are Aliens and Terminator 2: Judgment Day. I agree with what William Friedkin said about an Exorcist remake or whatever it is. John.
@@moviecollector5920wow I honestly love the sequel to 2049 cause of the fact it fixed Deckard’s relationship along with the better romance chemistry of K and JOI. I wasn’t sold on their connection on the original since you can clearly tell including reading behind the scenes they didn’t get along so I think it redeemed it. Plus it can also help my arguments too why Deckard isn’t a Replicant lol! And I love the fact it’s the closest film that knows how to balance CG and practical effects in two in two. I do suggest a rewatch too since I caught on up some subtle hints like for example when Deckard’s daughter was crying due to the fact it was her actual memory but resist to tell him etc. and there are short prequels along which wasn’t too bad. I honestly love the film as much as the original cause it still retains the question of what actions can make us human. Amazing slow burn Sci-Fi’s overall.
And as for sequels for sure, it’s a hard achievement for something to accomplish over the original like The Raid 1 and 2 or Infernal Affairs and The Departed, Doctor Sleep is also underrated. You just gotta have the right mindset/crew team to make sure it pays respect and the right responsibilities which brings me to how a feel about David Gordon Greene…I’m just not a fan of his works nor Blumhouse in general. The only Blumhouse films I can think of top of my head that I enjoyed was Mike Flannigan films and The Invisible Man remake. Other than that I can’t remember anything else. I didn’t even bother with the halloween sequels after hearing how over the top it goes along the major turn off for me was hearing the entire town chasing Michael including a lady using Steam Iron…yes a steam iron. That’s when I’m checking out thanks Universal…
Love The Exorcist. Fantastic film.
Most of us will agree with you there. John.
I had totally forgotten there was such a thing as 8mm movies for consumers. When I was a little boy I had a kind of toy projector and I had an 8mm copy of one of the old, black and white Superman episodes with George Reeves. I don't even think it was the full episode but I really loved watching it. There was no sound but there were subtitles. I was so young I hadn't learned to read yet so my dad would read the subtitles for me.
Now that is a magic of the movies memory and similar to what started my interest in moving images and film in general. I don't think we ever had a Superman silent reel to watch as children but we did have the Superman The Movie 400ft and for a while the 3x400ft which we a friend had purchased. Actually, he still has that 3x400ft now that I think about it. Super 8 reached its height towards the latter part of the 1980's and peaked a few years later. By the 2000's it had started to decline quite significantly but it does still survive today. Some of the best ever titles were released full length during the peak years and I managed to get many of those. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I don't think we had pre-recorded Super 8 movies in the 80s here in the US. If we did, it was extremely niche. Renting VHS and Betamax movies had begun by the early 80s.
Thanks John. I am a bit unsure whether to get this or not. I love this film and have ordered the 4k collectors edition but from what you are saying, this 4k transfer almost takes the filmic quality out of it a bit? Would you say it is worth a buy or shall I stick with the bluray? Thanks!
The Blu-ray isn't as good as the 4K. Actually, it's nowhere near as good as the 4K but you'll have to see what you think. I've watched the Super 8 versions so many times that I know The Exorcist too well. I saw it twice on 35mm in cinemas but I wouldn't go back to see it video projected as somehow the reality is a little lost. That I think is what I meant. I doubt there are many people who know this film as well as I so I expect you'll just be impressed by the work that has been done. It is a dimly lit, set based film for much of it so don't expect TENET style image quality. At times it's comparatively poor but conversely at times it's pristine. Low light results in increased film grain which means poorer definition. My overall impression is an excellent 4K disc. I'm not sure of the sound re-working at times but no one else is likely to notice and will just enjoy the atmospheric effect it has.
John.
@moviecollector5920 thanks. I ask because it is my favourite horror film! So I know it well but have never seen the reels of it so I will get the 4k. Thanks.
@@dicksi12345 I hope you enjoy it. My problem is that I know The Exorcist far too well for my own good. John.
I indulged and pre-ordered the the Bible version. Can't wait to revisit this absolute classic!
I hope you thoroughly enjoy it. Turn the new soundtrack up loud and even though you know the film I can almost guarantee you'll get a jump scare once or twice. John.
Fascinating to watch John, your presenting skills are top notch! The Exorcist is one of those films that impressed on you for all time, I will never forget watching it for the first time on my first VHS Ferguson Videostar back in 78 or 79... I showed it to my brothers 3 mates 9 and 10 year olds and watch their faces, it was great, lol... I scared the shit out of them... Please keep up the reviews, love to see more of your super 8 collection too....
It's a film with a lot of history and for many of us it has personal history too. Your story is similar to mine but we had it up on a big screen. Only about 7 feet wide back then but it always makes a difference to see a film on a bigger screen even if it wasn't the complete feature. It was close once the missing sections from the 400ft reel had been cut in though and still is today. John.
That brings back memories. At 11 years old I setup a theater in my dads garage. Projected Nat Geo 16mm films, until the neighbors called the police… 😂
Nice neigbours by the sound of it... not. We showed a few horror movies outside on occasion but our neighbours fortunately didn't call the police despite things like silver spheres flying through the air, shooting into someone's forehead and then sucking their brains out! John.
@@moviecollector5920 They didn’t like the fact kids were running around everywhere.
@@BigDinSanDiego Or maybe they were angry that they weren't invited to the shows!
Hi John, I loved this film myself ❤ very interesting as always 👍
Thank you Raymond. I think most of us appreciate The Exorcist as a great film even if we don't particularly like having the bejesus scared out of us! John.
I was 9 years old in 73 when the film came out and I can remember that the TV 📺 ads scared the crap out of me. I do remember it aired for the first time I can remember in 79 when I was 15. Even though it was heavily edited , it still scared me enough where I slept that night with the lights on. Today I’ve seen it countless times and I just got tix to see this ultra 4 K version on the big screen on October 1. Very excited.
A lot of us have some cherished memories about having the crap scared out of us the first time we saw The Exorcist at a young age. I'm not sure I've ever fully recovered but it's another of those historic films that made me who I am today so that's not an entirely bad thing. It was many years later when it got a television broadcast over here. Not sure how edited it would have been but I'm not sure the population of Britain would have appreciated some of the more choice language from Regan at her worst. Have a great time when you see it again. Watch out of the green bile being sprayed over the audience in feelaround! John.
I should mention I also live in DC, not far from Georgetown, and since I’m already seeing the movie there, I’m going to visit the stairs and take a look at the house. (Which is nowhere as large as it appears in the film)
Thanks John - I've still only seen it once, and that was in the late 90s. I can't think why 😂
I used to watch the Super 8 releases regularly when I was much younger Mark but then I found I didn't want to watch the DVD more than once after getting that and so The Exorcist sort of fell out of favour as a result. Having just seen it all again I suspect I'll be dipping into those Super 8 reels a little more often again now. I don't find the film scary at all any longer but I do appreciate the artistry that went into making it even more than I ever did before. John.
Great to hear all your insights on this one
Thank you nacthenud. John.
Brilliant video..... Great to see you back...
I don't think I've been away James. These videos generally take a couple of days so they're not things I can knock out on the spur of the moment. I had to go and get this on Monday so that was the best part of a day gone and then I recorded it yesterday and did most of the editing. Jettisoned a lot of dialogue as the video was rambling on too long but only important thing I had to cut was that the Blu-rays are a waste of time after you've seen the 4K. John.
Thanks for sharing John it’s years since I watched this movie,I prefer films with Bright scenes.
I’m a big Fan of Hammer Horror movies especially Taste The Blood Of Dracula and Scars Of Dracula etc.
I bought several of The Hammer Books like Hammer On Location and Bray Studios.
I think my favourite Hammer horror was The Devil Rides Out but I haven't watched any of them in a long time now. Actually I hadn't seen The Exorcist for a number of years, just the Super 8 cut downs now that I think about it. It is a dark film but that's part of its success. Peering into the dark to make out what is going on but it seems to have lost that a little in the 4K video. Impressive work nevertheless. John.
Long time no "see"! Greetings from Finland again. What is major difference between br/4k? How you see details or is it most film grain what makes difference? Insane content like always.
I did look at the Blu-rays after the 4K's and they're very good but not as vibrant or involving as the 4K. Strangely that may work better for this film but having watched the 4K and enjoyed the colourful nature of it in places I don't think I'll ever want to bother with the Blu-ray or the DVD. The Super 8 will always get an airing though but that's got a personal history as well as meaning a film projector can be heard running when it's on which always makes a difference to the effect. Colour, density and sound are all better on the 4K compared to the Blu-ray but I'm not certain I was entirely happy with the new Dolby Atmos as some sound effects sounded different to me and I know them too well. John.
Thanks for your answer! Maybe I try 4K too.@@moviecollector5920
I was waiting for your review of this before purchasing it which I have just done off the HMV website. I have the dvd with cardboard cover "the version you've never seen" emblazened under the title and also the bluray version boxset. I only ever watched it at the cinema in 1998 when it was released on film in the cinema for it 25th anniversary celebration, it looked bloody amazing. The first time I ever actually watched it was in 1979 at the tender age of 14 at my sisters house on a vhs rental on her black and white tv😂😂
I think I was 15 when I first saw that Super 8 400ft reel. It was still a scary film even at just 18 minutes but it was up on a big screen or rather a big white wall. The 35mm prints are the best way to see it but most of them will have faded by now. Maybe those 25th anniversary prints were new though in which case they're the ones to go for. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes, the 25th anniversary film print I saw at the cinema (I went to see it twice) was a re-mastered print as it looked pristine and it was full house, no digital projection anywhere at that time!!
@@darkvader7231 Let's hope those prints have been safely stored away and can be re-distributed to cinemas who had the sense to keep their film projectors now the film is in its 50th year. However good the digital video may be, it's just not the same as seeing the more natural, realistic look of a genuine 35mm print. Modern 35mm prints aren't what I consider genuine 35mm as they're struck from the 2K or 4K video master file and they lose something as a result. Films need to be shot and finished on film to get the best end result. John.
I had already bought the American blurays of Creepshow, but I'm glad it has come to the UK as it's such a good show. Just a fun and atmospheric little anthology show that stays true to the spirit of the original.
I've had to rush through all the discs a little but it's the last one this evening and then I'll start thinking about how to do a full review. I thought the episode with the little boy who watched 8mm horror film cut downs with his mother was the best of the lot... so far. But there have been plenty of good ones with even the not quite so good stories still being a lot of fun.
John.
My local HMV didn't have this or any sign of it today so went to hmv online and preordered the previously out of stock special edition. Happy to pay a premium for a steelbook with extra bits for one of my favourite ever films. Love those copies you have of it. My first experience was the book followed by a dodgy VHS of it that cost me £20 from some dodgy geezer advertising at the back of the Darkside magazine!!!
I expect they'd sold out because it still seems to be a hugely popular title. The number of views this review video is getting has taken me a little by surprise. I don't suppose anything really interesting has been released lately so people are excited to have a big new release and are on the lookout for reviews of it. Super 8 won't have had so much exposure for years! I hope you enjoy your special edition copy when it comes through the door. And well done for supporting HMV again Jason. At least we still have them on our high streets unlike every other country in the western world. John.
As always a great and informative review @Movie Collector ! Thanks! I skip this one as I pre ordered some new steelbooks of Equilizer 3, MI Dead Reckoning and the new deluxe 4K set of Carlito’s Way which is among my favourite movies ever.
Was thinking about some titles that desperately need a 4K release in my opinion.
Among them are: 1979’s The Warriors, Ridley Scott’s Kingdom of Heaven, Spielberg’s Munich, Born On The Fourth of July, the original The French Connection and a classic WW2 movie that made me a film fan aged 7 when this film was shot in my hometown and saw the filming about everyday with my brother and parents: A Bridge Too Far.
Those are top of my wishlist. Which titles are on your wishlist of future 4K releases, John?
A Bridge Too Far was the film in focus in the previous issue of Cinema Retro Pieter. I think that was a 14 page feature and it was brilliant. I don't really know what movies I think should be top of the list for a 4K release but if I went through my LaserDisc collection I think most of them would be in there. Twister and Dante's Peak immediately spring to mind. And then there's Stargate. If I didn't already have Carlito's Way I too might have ordered the new special edition.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 thanks for the CINEMA RETRO info, John. I sent them and e-mail to order that issue.
I also already had the 4K of Carlito but love the new edition and believe it, like the new Black Hawk Down, has now Dolby Vision and Atmos.
@@pieterbalk-ht7kqI'm fairly certain Carlito's Way was originally a DTS 5.1 Pieter. Atmos certainly wasn't around then but they've even done that to The Exorcist now so I suppose it's a way to make money by selling us the same product over and over again. I hope you enjoy it and it makes the film even better for you. Brian De Palma has done some wonderful films and that's one of them. I think Blow Out is probably the best of all but there are so many good 'uns. John.
@@moviecollector5920 certainly gotta see Blow Out then as that doesn’t ring a bell besides the title.
Unfortunately Cinema Retro doesn’t sell single back copies so hopefully you show the magazine content in a future video of a Bridge Too Far on 4K😊 although I doubt they ever release that as the film was ‘t a big hit despite its amazing cast.
@@pieterbalk-ht7kq I just had a look in the latest issue and to get that magazine from four months ago you have to subscribe for the all three of this year's magazines. It will probably come up for individual purchase in the future though and usually people sell them on eBay anyway so it can be found. I can't show any of the pages in a video though because I know one of the publishers from the days when he worked at Derann Film Services and he asked me never to do so for copyright reasons. They get clearance on all the archive photos for the printed publication but not for anything else so I don't want to risk getting them into trouble. John.
I’m definitely going to pick up The Exorcist. I like the look of these films that have 4 discs, I believe Blade Runner also had 4 but that’s the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
Apocalypse Now had a six disc option. I think The Outsiders was four if you include the soundtrack CD. There have been some others then. I probably know The Exorcist too well but I think the work that's gone into this release is outstanding even if I didn't think it had the same impact owing to being so perfect. I say 'perfect' but it's variable due to the dimly lit sets and a few captions here and there that were optically inserted and therefore three film elements to create the master for the negative.
John.
The Exorcist came out when I was 10 years old...did not see it in the theater, and I am way to scared to watch it at home.
I am sure it is a great movie, but I am too much of a chicken to watch it.
Loved listening to your review, I was brave and listened to the very end. ;)
I agree, there are a few movies that I enjoy better on DVD, than I do on BR or 4K.
It's a scary film Bob but it's an intelligent film. You'd probably be surprised by how good it is and how well the whole horror aspect is handled. I tend to look at The Exorcist rather than watch it because I know it so well. Since making this review I've started to gradually reduce the colour settings on our video projector as watching The Exorcist via this new 4K disc suggested the colour was too rich and that may be partially due to the settings rather than the grading applied.
John.
Once again, thanks for this. Can't wait to double bill this with Exorcist 3 4k which I got from the States.
I thought Exorcist 3 was pretty terrific. I haven't seen it since but I nearly purchased a Blu-ray copy when I got this Exorcist 4K the other day. I will watch it again eventually. Enjoy the double bill. John.
@@moviecollector5920 thanks
Totally agree with your take on the extended cut. The extra material kind of takes me out of the film. If I remember correctly, the spider walk occurs toward the end right around when Max Von Sydow shows up to the house. For me it interrupts the narrative flow with no real purpose.
It's actually after Ellen Burstyn drives home from the Barringer Clinic at night at Regan has killed Burke Dennings and thrown him out of the window. So it's not quite so late in the film as you might remember. I could see in the outtakes years ago that it was a bit silly and didn't work. It looks nothing like Linda Blair either so that didn't help matters. Right to cut it. John.
Ahh ok I must have misremembered the timing. Either way I still remember it disrupting the flow and yes the effect itself doesn't quite match the tone of the rest of the film.
At the risk of misremembering twice, am I correct in recalling that the extended cut opens with a shot of the house and not in Iraq? I didn't like that addition either (assuming I'm remembering correctly).
It was a fun scene but ever since 2000 ive only rewatched the original theatrical
Agree the newer creepshow is awesome! also that super 8 of the exorcist, insane! thanks for the review
It seems that quite a few of us are enjoying the Creepshow trio of series. I found out last night that it's better in our cinema room than through our telly but I might try that again this evening and black the room out completely to see how close I can make the impression to the cinema experience as a telly is how most people will be watching. As for The Exorcist on Super 8 my brother and I ran that so many times when we first purchased it. We had a spare room in our parents house that gave us about an 8 foot wide projected image and that gave it quite an impact. Scared the living daylights out of a lot of our school pals back then.
John.
Hey John. Glad you're getting a decent release. I was super excited about this here in the US and then Warner's made some horrible decisions. The cover we are getting looks like a photoshop job by a 7 year old. All the more frustrating to se that you get the proper sleeve. The extras are all on a digital copy code. Ye gods, someone at Warners needs to get a grip!
Afternoon Rob. Sorry, morning as I think you're eight hours behind us. There is a steelbook available, or there was as it sold out before it ever went on sale. Anyway, that steelbook is an image of Linda Blair in the demonic persona. When you've got one of the most iconic film posters of all time to draw from anyone who knows about film history would choose that ahead of anything else for the damned steelbook but clearly there are so many people who know very little about the film industry and its history. Rant over, it's a very nice case and I've only just seen Jeff's thumbnail with a strange looking case next to his mug shot. Someone at WB in the USA appears to have messed up as you said.
John.
Good honest review, John. The Super 8 print doesn’t seem to have faded? I always thought the Columbia releases were quick to fade…anyway, never watched The Exorcist all the way through… seen small bits of it… on the other hand my mom, who’s 90, has it on DVD and watches it from time to time.. on her own!… maybe a surprise inclusion at this year’s BFC in November?
I don't think the cinema we're holding the film collector event would allow us to screen anything from The Exorcist. I did consider putting it on the list to see what they say but I thought better of it after a while and decided I'd better behave myself. The Super 8 reels were always a bit dupey looking but I don't think they've faded much if at all. Maybe a bit red in places where they should be black but that could have been because the stock was flashed prior to processing to make it easier... and the print quality slightly poorer. Very special to have it back in the early 80s, particularly after it got banned as a video nasty and we were able to still enjoy it on a big screen. John.
By the way, your mum sounds alright in my book! John.
Thanks John for review.
You're welcome Craig. Thanks for watching. John.
I congratulate you on your collection, Sir. 🎉
More than 50 years has gone into that film collection though so it's taken a while. John.
Personally The Exorcist doesn’t scare me that much overall, (though it absolutely has some bone chilling moments) but I still think it’s probably a strong contender for the best Horror film ever made, and while it’s not _quite_ my favourite, it would definitely be in my top 10.
It’s an incredibly powerful film (Karras making the ultimate sacrifice always gets me very emotional) and such a magnificent adaption of Blatty’s equally powerful novel! I’m not optimistic about the new film Exorcist: Believer at all, (it looks like something of a cynical cash grab judging by the trailer) though I’ll probably drag myself into the cinema to watch it anyway 😂 There’s only one true sequel (and the only one that had a good reason to exist) to The Exorcist in my mind, and that is Blatty’s The Exorcist III, which is fantastic!
Anyway, this was a wonderful overview of this new release John, I loved your anecdote about splicing up the Super-8 film with your father! All the best!
I won't be watching the remake, that's for sure. I don't think it will do anything other than ridicule itself and for a while may harm the classic original. Exorcist 3 is great but I haven't seen it since its general release. I did enjoy Exorcist 2 as well which I saw as a double-bill with the original film. That would have been about 1980.
John.
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I’m not a fan of Exorcist II personally, but I’ll say that it’s beautifully shot and has a fantastic score courtesy of Ennio Morricone. Just never really worked for me, but Martin Scorcese really likes it, so what do I know haha?
John its a shame people tend to want picture perfection from older movies now as if they were made just yesterday - I prefer to see the faults and blemishes I think these endless restorations have raised our expectations too high to be honest. Not everything was shot on the best film stock and at 70MM. Great review.
That's a good point. I haven't really been able to put my finger on exactly why it wasn't as effecting on the pristine 4K copy but I do remember the 35mm prints I saw years ago and it was still a damned scary experience even though I knew so much of the film off by heart as a result of watching the Super 8 mini feature so many times.
John.
I just want to see the picture in its best possible quality and as intended, I’m not really bothered if it looks pristine (T2 - I. Looking at you…)
@@ColonelSternloveagreed. I feel the HDR was overused in several scenes on this current release. I’m fine with source issues but not with overtampering.
Great review I was a teenager when it came out did read the book
I did record a piece about the book and how disturbing it was but the video was going on too long so I cropped it out and did the piece with the caption instead. John.
salut bonne revue sur se film et belle vidèo comme toujour
Merci Alain et bonjour. John.
Rewatched the Theatrica Cut of this in 4K UHD last night to kick off a month of horror movies for Halloween. Although I purchased this when it originally received a DVD release, I'm not sure if I ever watched that copy? I did see it as a kid on a rented VHS tape which may well have been the only time I had previously viewed it. Felt very slow and long for me this time around. Will rewatch listening to the director audio commentary next.
It's the slow burn that facilitates the pay off in the final quarter of the film when the exorcism commences. These days it wouldn't be possible to make a stylish horror like this as it all has to be wham, bam, thank you ma'am right from the start. That's probably a major reason why I usually find modern horrors so silly. John.
Thank you for your memories of the Exorcist. I have like yourself the double sided DVD in the Warner cardboard sleeve. Hate those flipper discs.Intresting to see the differences between the US and UK 4k regarding sleeve design and content. On the same shopping expedition indulged myself with purchases of The Misfits, Gregory's Girl and Cutthroat Island. A very mixed choice and I have blown my budget again What is this BFI festival that both my local cinema chains are pushing details are scant ? Kindest regards to you John for explaining things to this layman
I think Cutthroat Island is a terrific action adventure film. I was tempted by the 4K when I purchased The Exorcist but I love the gatefold LaserDisc and I would like to look at that again which I probably wouldn't do if I purchased the 4K. The image quality of that LD is among the best of all 35mm transfers onto the format so it's almost guaranteed that the 4K will be rather special too.
I don't think I know about this BFI festival. Do you mean the Film Is Fabulous! event we have coming up on 29th October? If it's that then you'll find details on the NEXT EVENT page of www.bfcc.biz. Tickets for that are going to sell out as they're being limited to about 250 I think.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Cutthroat Island blew me away with how good the picture quality is. The fine details on the costumes are incredibly well picked out for example. Thanks for the heads up on the film is fabulous event .
that's a great pick up! btw have you seen "enter the void" ? for me it's one of those rare must see films at least once in your life. it might not be an "easy" watch but that's the point of the film,its an experience! and with your beautiful home theater its a perfect movie for you to experience on a bigger screen!
I haven't seen Enter The Void. Touching The Void is a great experience too so there's something about the similar titles by the sound of it. I'll keep a lookout for it. John.
@@moviecollector5920gaspar noe is certainl1y an acquired taste as a director. His most accessible film is probably climax. A bunch of dancers in a remote rehearsal studio descend into madness when their party drinks are spiked.
Enter the Void is quite an experience. I recommend it too
it really is. i have never seen a film like it and ever since i first saw it years ago when it came out it has never left my mind@@mackjay1777
Superb video, John!
I love the Exorcist (theatrical cut only, not that "version you wish you would've never seen").
But since I own the Super 8 400' reel, the LaserDisc, the DVD, and the Blu-ray your review actually makes me hesitant to buy the 4K. I always liked the grainy 70s film look. Not sure if I want this movie to look pristine and colorful 🤔🤔🤔
I'll think about it...
On another note (since it came up in the video), what's your opinion on splicing together Super 8 cutdowns that come on 2x400' or 3x400" reels? I have quite a few of those (not as many as you) and I always wonder how they would play if I didn't have to change reels every 16 minutes or so.
On the other hand these are collectibles and every reel is housed in their original box. Which I would keep, of course. I am really torn on this subject and would love to know how you handle your cutdowns.
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Greetings from Germany!
I have spliced some of the 2x400ft and 3x400ft cut downs together. The one that springs to mind is The Warriors which might actually be better than the complete feature. It's certainly better than the re[-hash that came out on Blu-ray a few years ago. I keep all the reels and leaders in the original boxes. It's easy to put them back if you ever want to but I put the 3x400ft of Black Sunday on an 800ft reel about 30 years ago and it's still on that reel. Makes it more enjoyable to watch all in one hit. But I do enjoy changing the reels too so it's not something I'd want to do all the time.
The 4K is a little too perfect. I think it hurts the scary nature of the film but that's just my impression from watching it once. If I watch it again I may think it's the best way to ever see The Exorcist. I think I will always prefer that extra long version we spliced together on the 3x400ft reels. I did put that together on a 1200ft reel for a showing for a friend once but I put it all back afterwards. I like to have that one in those fabulous cases.
John.
Thanks for the reply!
I guess I will try it on a few cutdowns that I would really like to watch in one go.
The German 2x400' of Taxi Driver springs to mind. A project for the dark and rainy days ahead...
Cheers!
Hi John. I don't know if you've heard, but sadly Kenneth Branagh's third Poirot film, A Haunting In Venice, now out, is not shot on film this time. And no transfer to film either. I was looking forward to this, especially with the delayed last one only coming out last year, but sadly it seems Nile's Pandemic delayed release reduced interest and box office, resulting in less budget being offered this time.
I had seen the trailer and concluded it was shot on video so I probably won't bother unless I look at the 4K when it's out and it appeals. To be fair, Death on the Nile turned out to be a faux 70mm release as the prints were struck from the 4K video master file so that explains why it didn't look as good as it should have done. John.
@@moviecollector5920 It is a shame. I think even with the print to film being from a video source of a film source, it was an atmospheric experience, as you still have the grain on the projected film. Although as far as I'm aware The Odeon Leicester Square was the only cinema in the UK screening the 70mm print, so the incentives would be less. Nile only made 137 Million off a 100 Million dollar budget, so it's amazing it got a sequel. I think a large part of that is that the audience for the Poirot films tend to be older, and even in Feb 2022 a lot of that age range still wouldn't return to cinemas. Top Gun Maverick seemed to be the film that changed that, but it's long release no doubt helped.
After his recent acting collaborations with Christopher Nolan I was hoping Branagh was in Nolan's camp of shooting on 65mm. Esp after using the same cameras Nolan had. And Branagh was one of the last people before Nolan to shoot on 65mm, with Hamlet (1996). I hope it's just reduced box office equals reduced expenditure that prevented Branagh this time, and he hasn't given up on film.
Wonderful video. On the subject of controversy, I'm curious, was A Clockwork Orange given a Super 8 home release, in the West? I understand it was banned for a long time in many places.
It might have had a cut down release in Germany but I can't recall now. It didn't here in the UK. John.
Cool, I first saw the film last October at my local cinema for the first time, fantastic film
One of the most historic films of all time so well done for seeing it in a cinema. What the film industry really needs to do is to get new 35mm prints back out there. For this and a lot of other films actually. That should really help to rejuvenate the dying cinema industry. Imagine going to see The Exorcist in the same format as scared the .... out of people all those years ago.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I would love to see a 35mm print of the Theatrical cut
@@s.wstudioproductions5977 I think there is a proven market for just this type of re-release in the western world today. Why bother going to a cinema when you can see the same thing at home or on your telephone? That's actually what a lot of people think so cinema needs to offer something different and better... film! John.
Psycho 4k special edition box set. Zombi holocaust 4k special edition and the wicker man 4k special edition collector's set all on the way 😊
I might invest in The Wicker Man Gary. All the sets for that seem a little expensive right now though so I'll have to wait and see. I was finally going to purchase Time Bandits when we went in to get The Exorcist but it was old out. Damn it! John.
Looking forward to getting this same 4K disc here in California. The US release had such a dismal cover artwork I paid the few extra dollars to import from the UK. Completely different era of filmmaking, but I know what you mean about a movie looking too clean - when The Matrix was released on 4K I was really taken aback by how much depth and color was on the 4K compared to the DVDs and Blu-rays I had seen so many times. With some of these films I'm not sure what is "accurate," but it's a good reminder to keep the older formats too.
The Matrix looked quite poor at the cinema Jason (general release print though) and I did think it looked pretty much the same on 4K. I'm now not so sure but at the cinema this was largely due to some of the computer effects shots being rushed to meet the release date, I think. Look at some of them closely on the 4K and assuming my eyes weren't watering at the time I'd estimate they're standard definition. I think that was why it gave me such a poor impression at the cinema but the green hue to the colour didn't help. The Exorcist on 4K is extremely colourful at times and I don't remember the 35mm prints I saw looking like that. It certainly doesn't look like it on Super 8 but that's not the best guide as it probably came from the 16mm reduction negative which was another generation or two down from the internegative.
I will have to give The Matrix another chance soon because so many people have told me they think the 4K is excellent. I feel I must have had something set wrong when I watched that one.
@@moviecollector5920 I appreciate the insights. I only saw the Matrix sequels in cinemas but not the original. I remember the dull looking DVD best because of how many times I viewed it. The 4K looks very vibrant but a little unusual in my opinion.
It'll be nice to get my hands on this Exorcist disc - although it sounds like the color team may have done a little tinkering. Is the theatrical mono audio included on this UK edition? I generally opt for as close to the theatrical experience as possible.
Can I ask what site your purchased the 4K on? HMV doesn’t state 4 discs so unsure if this is the one to go for. Thanks.
@@JasonCryer The original mono sound is there but try the Dolby Atmos tracks first and turn it up loud because I think you'll find it will give you a jump scare or two. I will probably stick with the original sound from now on if I ever run the 4K again but as a novelty the new track might be quite interesting for you. John.
@@LetsMakeGhosts I went into an HMV. Surely it will be the same product on the web site. I'd be astounded if it's not. John.
I watched the original film on a big screen at the Odeon. I was under age. I was sneaked in by my sister. I hope high get to review the 4k of The Wicker Man
I might get the 4K of The Wicker Man but all the packs I've seen so far seem to be a little too expensive right now. It recently had a screening in that cinema I show in this video and a colleague attended. Said it was fabulous to see it again in a packed house. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I'm avoiding the expense box set and will wait until I can buy the single disc. I'm lucky I live near The Tyneside Cinema in Newcastle, which regularly shows classic movies.