We had a problem with our TL12R2 a few months ago and every time it would have its issue it would shut off. My guys would always turn the key off and try to restart it. That would clear all the codes every time. Finally it did it and they didn’t touch the key. Once in the display we pulled the codes. Ended up being a heat sensor in the DPF. They came out and put a new sensor in and it’s been good to go. Had it for a year now and 1,300 hrs and it’s been great. Getting another TL12R2 next month once it comes in. They are almost impossible to get right now, no inventory until October.
There was an article on an air study from Southern California about two years ago regarding the def in the new diesels. The def particles were heavier than oxygen so they settled back down to the earth for us to breathe in. I’m with you Sam. The generation of diesels before def were almost as clean as most gas motors
There are 2 things that will decrease DPF soot loading, first is using a Fuel Borne Catalyst (Better Diesel FBC brand) more complete combustion, lowers the temperature and duration necessary for regen and the second is Delo 600 ADF a new oil formulated without metallic additives which reduces sulfated ash by 60 percent, from crankcase oil mist, which small amount does get combusted.
Thank you sharing so much i formation. Because of your channel and the tine Jim from Global spent with me at the logging conference. I will be purchasing a TL12!
Ours did the same. They said it was the dpf header. The machine was several hundred hours out of warranty, we were working in North Carolina, bought the machine back home in GA, we took it to the local dealership, they fixed it under warranty, and the repair parts were on back order, they gave us a rental machine for 2½ months for free!!!! That's service.
VB&S, I like the show. Showing the good, the bad, and the annoying. I will say, I know I can’t get away from the inevitable and having to use def. But every time I fire up the 2002 F250 with the 7.3L, I truly enjoy walking past the Def aisle in the Home Depot.
Just for your information "Stage" classifications are European off-highway regulations and "tier" is US off-highway. Since US does not have current regs as stringent as Europe (probably coming with current administration) many manufactures developed their Stage 5 engines and also certified them to Tier 4 Final so they can sell the same engine in multiple countries.
My regulations on emissions in rural Maine USA are more stringent than a friends in Yorkshire UK. He was able to buy a machine with more power exactly equal to my wife’s 2013 model. The machine was unavailable to me in 2019 he bought one new the same year in UK.
@@troytreeguy are you referring to an off-highway equipment vs a truck? Off-highway always lags behind on-highway, usually 6-10 years. Stage 5 drove the need for DPF on everything, because of this engines were "made dirtier" and cleaned up on backside with aftertreatment. This in turn allows engine to be "pushed" more. At Tier 4F for example Cummins does not have a DPF for anything under 400hp. The engine is cleaned through more controlled engine parameters thus making the aftertreatment "work less" and avoid DPF.
I love your videos man, I’m think I’m local to you I just bought myself a 2017 TL12v2 that has a bad turbo, already talked to Oscar down at Global Machinery, he seems to be a really nice guy, hopefully I’ll get it going in the next couple of weeks to start using it on my property in Auburn.
Thanks for your video and channel - love it! Just got an older CTL myself and one of my fears is what do you do when a tracked machine breaks down out in the field given you can't just roll these things? In other words, how did you recover this and get it to the dealer? Don't wish bad luck on anyone but would love to see a video of that if the Takeuchi should ever have another hiccup.
This came is common on this skidsteer the def fluid leaks down the wiring harness into the def control module. I’m working on one right now where injector #4 isn’t getting power and the dealership is going to pay me to replace wiring harness and def control module.
Common problem I had the same issue with the def dosing valve on my tl12v2 at 238hrs. Mine also covered under warranty thankfully because it's a 1400$ part
i have a 2017 tl12v2 and have been going through this same issue, update and new hardware as well, and the warranty on the def system started overwith a new 5 year warranty from tak... the sensors seem to go out alot but tak admitted they had a bad run of sensorsand hopefully the one i am haveing replaced today will be the last one for a while
Take zip ties and secure the metal lid covering the rear intake cover up. Let it idle and regen. If it has AC, run the machine at full throttle and cycle the AC on and off for about 3-4 mins. It will clear the code!
Trip through wyoming my ass. Lol gotta love norcal. I hate being in exile in reno, but i do love me some standard capacity 30rd mags, that you can reload with just the push of a button. Sorry the libs are still im charge. For now...
A PERFECT example of why I choose to NOT get a new machine with all the DEF crap. I found a 'like new' high flow TL250 so as to NOT have the DEF problems.
Seems you won't have issues on most newer equipment on mechanics,its all expensive emmision controls that are the biggest headaches.makes buying a low hr used machine scary.
Hi wondering is def a clear liquid which when dry looks like a crystal deposit ? if yes in the UK/Europe, its called ad-blue which is basically pig piss .... it is sprayed into the exhaust system after the cat and is meant to stick to any particulates coming out of the tail pipe and then stick to the road ,now figure me this, this is meant to keep harmful particulates out of the air ?? !!!!! so why is it plumbed into vehicles with exhaust systems that direct exhaust gases up into the air ,such as stacks on trucks,tractors,tippers off road/highway vehicles etc . Plus its not cheap,cheaper than a gallon of diesel but still adds a lot to the cost of running anything bigger than your pick-up,and yes it stinks and will not do you any good if you breath it in as it sticks to the road so will stick to the insides of your nose/windpipe/lungs .good A !
DEF or adblue is a mixture of urea and what that when coupled with high temperatures in the exhaust creates a chemical reaction to reduce the Nox emissions (nitrogen oxides) coming out the tail pipe ... which creates nitrogen and water as a byproduct. If you smell anything coming from the exhaust there is a failure somewhere
It looks like traler is 14k a else could be wrong but what kind of trailer is it for machine to fit between wheel wells and. Ya looks like you got apprx 16-17k on trailer so wondering what axles you had running. Machine mush be 12,000+ lbs, mulcher 2-3000lbs and attachment on front of trailer. Not knocking you at all I know you know your shit been watching your videos for awhile. Thanks any info would be great
The EPA bullshit is killing anything Diesel Period! It’s one big Scam if you ask me ! I just bought a new 2021 F-350 7.3 Big Block Godzilla with 4.30 gears . Will gooseneck 20K with ease. I bought it because I know I’ll have less issues with it compared at any modern Diesel engine. I keep my stuff long after warranty & tow 15K or less so to me it’s the better choice by far.
i bought the same 2022.. how is yours holding up?? mine has only 9k miles no issues so far.. they are rated around 24k tow capacity on 5th wheel which is more than most older 2012ish diesels!
i bought the same 2022.. how is yours holding up?? mine has only 9k miles no issues so far.. they are rated around 24k tow capacity on 5th wheel which is more than most older 2012ish diesels!
dealer support on the big island is horrible, $88,000 + TL12V2 HIGH FLOW was delivered with out 2ed Auxiliary Circuit, witch is in our contract, after going back and forth, our dealer says Takeuchi no longer has a factory install 2ed Auxiliary circuit, ?? and has a field install option, at her dealership, TAKEUCHI has cut off communication with us completely, finding out the price difference between with 2ed Auxiliary and without would help, we are stuck, i hate attorneys, any suggestions
@@VBELTandSON not sure about price for adding secondary, last we herd they were looking into the price,--- hydraulic winch, tugger, older attachments with multiple functions, just having the option, were trying to find out the cost of the TL12V2 High flow sold without the secondary,
So how did you get it on the trailer? New equipment scares me, when there is no dealer for 400km and 10 years old sorry we don't support that any moor.
Keep in mind. Federal EPA law requires any DEF or emission issues be repaired at no charge for 5 years at no cost to the owner. Unless they find contaminated DEF or trash in the DEF tank. I have experienced serious DEF issue. Everything associated with the DEF system required replacement. Would have cost about $ 12,000 to repair. Failure repaired at no cost to us. Machine was out of warranty. Considered trading. Dealer informed me of this law and suggested that we wait until the 59th month.
There are only a few suppliers, most are just rebrands. Main thing to look for is how it's stored. Want it from some place with good turn over and out of UV. ie don't buy it when it is sitting at the front window of auto zone for 6 months. It will break down and doesn't like heat.
The problem seen with the Walmart Supertech is expired fluid and/or unsealed containers. There's also been reports of people using Supertech and it ended up being water. Its assumed someone bought a jug, used it, refilled with water and returned it. Some systems are more sensitive to expired fluids like GM & Fords. I use the Peak in a sealed box so you know it wasn't tampered with. For the extra 4 or 5 dollars the security is worth it.
DO I SEE A ETTERA CEMENT SKID STEER MIXER ? 16 CU , I HAVE ONE STILL IN CRATE , FROM SKID STEER SOLUTIONS WILLING TO SELL AT A LOSS , @$6,000, FROM TRENT AT SKID STEER SOL
When they start putting Def on private jets , then I'll believe its helping the environment
Excellent statement. I will get with congress and plane should 100% be on Def to help the green world as this is their goal
That’s why dealer support is so crucial. Just like you explain that’s the most important thing when choosing a color machine!
Great job as always . Customer service is always appreciated when done right.
We had a problem with our TL12R2 a few months ago and every time it would have its issue it would shut off. My guys would always turn the key off and try to restart it. That would clear all the codes every time. Finally it did it and they didn’t touch the key. Once in the display we pulled the codes. Ended up being a heat sensor in the DPF. They came out and put a new sensor in and it’s been good to go. Had it for a year now and 1,300 hrs and it’s been great. Getting another TL12R2 next month once it comes in. They are almost impossible to get right now, no inventory until October.
There was an article on an air study from Southern California about two years ago regarding the def in the new diesels. The def particles were heavier than oxygen so they settled back down to the earth for us to breathe in. I’m with you Sam. The generation of diesels before def were almost as clean as most gas motors
That’s great customer service right there glad they were able to help you out with everything. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.
Glad I’m going with new, and yes with Jim and Global...service,service,service thanks for sharing Sam👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
There are 2 things that will decrease DPF soot loading, first is using a Fuel Borne Catalyst (Better Diesel FBC brand) more complete combustion, lowers the temperature and duration necessary for regen and the second is Delo 600 ADF a new oil formulated without metallic additives which reduces sulfated ash by 60 percent, from crankcase oil mist, which small amount does get combusted.
Thank you sharing so much i formation. Because of your channel and the tine Jim from Global spent with me at the logging conference. I will be purchasing a TL12!
Ours did the same. They said it was the dpf header. The machine was several hundred hours out of warranty, we were working in North Carolina, bought the machine back home in GA, we took it to the local dealership, they fixed it under warranty, and the repair parts were on back order, they gave us a rental machine for 2½ months for free!!!! That's service.
Wow
That's impressive
Thank you ca .
VB&S, I like the show. Showing the good, the bad, and the annoying. I will say, I know I can’t get away from the inevitable and having to use def. But every time I fire up the 2002 F250 with the 7.3L, I truly enjoy walking past the Def aisle in the Home Depot.
Dealer makes a difference on customer service satisfaction 👌. Great video, be safe out there 👍
Keyword of emissions.
“While it is working”. They run good until they choke on it
Great video Sam and I appreciate that information 🇺🇲
That’s one problem we never had with the tl140
Just for your information "Stage" classifications are European off-highway regulations and "tier" is US off-highway. Since US does not have current regs as stringent as Europe (probably coming with current administration) many manufactures developed their Stage 5 engines and also certified them to Tier 4 Final so they can sell the same engine in multiple countries.
My regulations on emissions in rural Maine USA are more stringent than a friends in Yorkshire UK. He was able to buy a machine with more power exactly equal to my wife’s 2013 model. The machine was unavailable to me in 2019 he bought one new the same year in UK.
@@troytreeguy are you referring to an off-highway equipment vs a truck? Off-highway always lags behind on-highway, usually 6-10 years. Stage 5 drove the need for DPF on everything, because of this engines were "made dirtier" and cleaned up on backside with aftertreatment. This in turn allows engine to be "pushed" more. At Tier 4F for example Cummins does not have a DPF for anything under 400hp. The engine is cleaned through more controlled engine parameters thus making the aftertreatment "work less" and avoid DPF.
Hell yeah Brother! Had to go to the website and order that Bad Cherry hat, keychain 🍒 and some decals! Can’t wait till it comes in the mail!
Dealer support is everything. Nice job Global machinery
I love the cabs on these plenty room you can work with the door open brilliant design
I love your videos man, I’m think I’m local to you I just bought myself a 2017 TL12v2 that has a bad turbo, already talked to Oscar down at Global Machinery, he seems to be a really nice guy, hopefully I’ll get it going in the next couple of weeks to start using it on my property in Auburn.
Thank god you listened to your old Canadian buddy and git airbags on that thing. Lol
That 3500 is nice Sam. New little Diamond works great for trips like that 👍👍
Thanks for your video and channel - love it! Just got an older CTL myself and one of my fears is what do you do when a tracked machine breaks down out in the field given you can't just roll these things? In other words, how did you recover this and get it to the dealer? Don't wish bad luck on anyone but would love to see a video of that if the Takeuchi should ever have another hiccup.
Love the videos
New to the channel, great videos by the way. What brand front bumper is that on your Ram?
We had the same issue and there is a sensor under the cab that def fluid gets in and touches both prongs and signals it
This came is common on this skidsteer the def fluid leaks down the wiring harness into the def control module.
I’m working on one right now where injector #4 isn’t getting power and the dealership is going to pay me to replace wiring harness and def control module.
Common problem I had the same issue with the def dosing valve on my tl12v2 at 238hrs. Mine also covered under warranty thankfully because it's a 1400$ part
i have a 2017 tl12v2 and have been going through this same issue, update and new hardware as well, and the warranty on the def system started overwith a new 5 year warranty from tak... the sensors seem to go out alot but tak admitted they had a bad run of sensorsand hopefully the one i am haveing replaced today will be the last one for a while
Great costumer service is always a determining factor when buying 😎
Take zip ties and secure the metal lid covering the rear intake cover up. Let it idle and regen. If it has AC, run the machine at full throttle and cycle the AC on and off for about 3-4 mins. It will clear the code!
I’ve got 783000 on my isx. The DPF filter replaced 1 time. No other problems.
TL12. You can always make and save money, but you’ll never make more time. Do feel ok about the down time of the equipment.
love the video
The switcher i use at work idles a lot but when it goes a burn i let it complete a burn before shutting it down
When a business will open on a Sunday now that right there is unbelievable service.
I just picked up a Wolverine concrete mixer for my skid steer. I see yours came with a hose, I did not get the hose.
Oh man. Kirk was about to rip on that Les Paul.
Wait until the EPA passes their new emissions junk and makes it illegal to modify any vehicle. Hopefully the RPM act will pass.
Sounds like the "Take a Hoochie" is an expensive machine to fix.
Tickle coochie
Tight coochie
Anything with emissions crap is
Ive got the same sight gauge leak
Trip through wyoming my ass. Lol gotta love norcal. I hate being in exile in reno, but i do love me some standard capacity 30rd mags, that you can reload with just the push of a button. Sorry the libs are still im charge. For now...
I’ve been watching the channel for awhile and I was just wondering what the “bad cherry” means ?
A PERFECT example of why I choose to NOT get a new machine with all the DEF crap. I found a 'like new' high flow TL250 so as to NOT have the DEF problems.
Can you please load your dually on the 20k bumper pull please? I’m looking at getting a diamond c and want to make sure 22’ is enough length
There is a video of a crew cab long bed loaded on it when I picked it up from the dealer. Fits no proble
They can remotely log into it? That’s crazy. Is that standard or do you have gps on that for them to be able to do that.
Standard and yea gps also.
I'd trade a little power for engine longevity.
we got the same one as you it wont start at all new battery and all still nothing screen wont even come on
Seems you won't have issues on most newer equipment on mechanics,its all expensive emmision controls that are the biggest headaches.makes buying a low hr used machine scary.
Yeah it does, although I’ve learned the hard way it’s the same with trucks now too...
How’s the cab and door seal up? Does the door rattle much?
Seals up good and tight
Good video….😂 I seen the California license plate and I threw up in my mouth a little bit. 🤮 just a little bit..
Same here
Where did you get the rear guard and the hydraulic connection shield?
Precision armor. Look them up on fb. Let them know I sent ya
Mine did the same thing
Hi wondering is def a clear liquid which when dry looks like a crystal deposit ? if yes in the UK/Europe, its called ad-blue which is basically pig piss .... it is sprayed into the exhaust system after the cat and is meant to stick to any particulates coming out of the tail pipe and then stick to the road ,now figure me this, this is meant to keep harmful particulates out of the air ?? !!!!! so why is it plumbed into vehicles with exhaust systems that direct exhaust gases up into the air ,such as stacks on trucks,tractors,tippers off road/highway vehicles etc . Plus its not cheap,cheaper than a gallon of diesel but still adds a lot to the cost of running anything bigger than your pick-up,and yes it stinks and will not do you any good if you breath it in as it sticks to the road so will stick to the insides of your nose/windpipe/lungs .good A !
DEF or adblue is a mixture of urea and what that when coupled with high temperatures in the exhaust creates a chemical reaction to reduce the Nox emissions (nitrogen oxides) coming out the tail pipe ... which creates nitrogen and water as a byproduct. If you smell anything coming from the exhaust there is a failure somewhere
@1:06 double take hard look at ol boys dirt bikes lol
It looks like traler is 14k a else could be wrong but what kind of trailer is it for machine to fit between wheel wells and. Ya looks like you got apprx 16-17k on trailer so wondering what axles you had running. Machine mush be 12,000+ lbs, mulcher 2-3000lbs and attachment on front of trailer. Not knocking you at all I know you know your shit been watching your videos for awhile. Thanks any info would be great
What model is your TL12 and how many hours was on the machine when you had problems.
I believe I say in the video
The EPA bullshit is killing anything Diesel Period! It’s one big Scam if you ask me ! I just bought a new 2021 F-350 7.3 Big Block Godzilla with 4.30 gears . Will gooseneck 20K with ease. I bought it because I know I’ll have less issues with it compared at any modern Diesel engine. I keep my stuff long after warranty & tow 15K or less so to me it’s the better choice by far.
i bought the same 2022.. how is yours holding up?? mine has only 9k miles no issues so far.. they are rated around 24k tow capacity on 5th wheel which is more than most older 2012ish diesels!
i bought the same 2022.. how is yours holding up?? mine has only 9k miles no issues so far.. they are rated around 24k tow capacity on 5th wheel which is more than most older 2012ish diesels!
I think all TL12s do this
Yup there is a bulletin out saying any issues to replace the wiring harness and def control module because it leaks and causes all sorts of issues.
Andrew Camarata would say that skidsteer has too many electronics on it which will just break.
Even tho he just bought the same machine........👌🏻😂
@@VBELTandSON well, he says he's going to buy a cybertruck too, so I guess he's breaking all his own rules these days.
Takeuchi has less electronics than most. All the controls are pilot control already better than others
But unfortunately not all dealers r like that
Mine is doing the same damn thingg
Are you running DML/SSL 150 or 175
Looking at running fae mulcher deciding between fae and fecon
Delete that truck and you will be mind blown
Ya I'll stick to my older diesels. None of my diesels have def or dpf
Best look at my other videos and see what I have then let me know
dealer support on the big island is horrible, $88,000 + TL12V2 HIGH FLOW was delivered with out 2ed Auxiliary Circuit, witch is in our contract, after going back and forth, our dealer says Takeuchi no longer has a factory install 2ed Auxiliary circuit, ?? and has a field install option, at her dealership, TAKEUCHI has cut off communication with us completely, finding out the price difference between with 2ed Auxiliary and without would help, we are stuck, i hate attorneys, any suggestions
How much more is it to add the secondary? What are you gonna use the secondary for?
@@VBELTandSON not sure about price for adding secondary, last we herd they were looking into the price,--- hydraulic winch, tugger, older attachments with multiple functions, just having the option, were trying to find out the cost of the TL12V2 High flow sold without the secondary,
How would you rate this unit with a John Deere 333G?
I wouldn’t buy the 333g. Seen to many catch on fire. Not a good machine for a mulcher
I'm courious on the trailer you used in this video. What's the capacity. Not trying to ding you but I would like to put 15k on 4 tires on mine.
20k trailer. I have several videos just on the trailer
So how did you get it on the trailer? New equipment scares me, when there is no dealer for 400km and 10 years old sorry we don't support that any moor.
Keep in mind. Federal EPA law requires any DEF or emission issues be repaired at no charge for 5 years at no cost to the owner. Unless they find contaminated DEF or trash in the DEF tank. I have experienced serious DEF issue. Everything associated with the DEF system required replacement. Would have cost about $ 12,000 to repair. Failure repaired at no cost to us. Machine was out of warranty. Considered trading. Dealer informed me of this law and suggested that we wait until the 59th month.
Dang that’s good info and damn lucky on your end!
Regen shit I had 3 injectors in my truck useless systems 6k a pop to
OMG Supertech Walmart def. Just asking for trouble.
Solid so far. All it ever gets lol
All the same piss 😂
There are only a few suppliers, most are just rebrands. Main thing to look for is how it's stored. Want it from some place with good turn over and out of UV. ie don't buy it when it is sitting at the front window of auto zone for 6 months. It will break down and doesn't like heat.
The problem seen with the Walmart Supertech is expired fluid and/or unsealed containers. There's also been reports of people using Supertech and it ended up being water. Its assumed someone bought a jug, used it, refilled with water and returned it. Some systems are more sensitive to expired fluids like GM & Fords. I use the Peak in a sealed box so you know it wasn't tampered with. For the extra 4 or 5 dollars the security is worth it.
@@codyharring9812 exactly 👍
All that def is pigs urine I was told
DO I SEE A ETTERA CEMENT SKID STEER MIXER ? 16 CU , I HAVE ONE STILL IN CRATE , FROM SKID STEER SOLUTIONS WILLING TO SELL AT A LOSS , @$6,000, FROM TRENT AT SKID STEER SOL
15/16 it’s Japanese it’s metric haha you must be the only country still back in the last ice age haha
Oh that’s a nox sensor
If it works it works 15/16 worked. This weather feels dang warm for this ice age lol
And look at you now run by a dimwit hahahahahahahahahaha
Junk 😂 bobcat is the same.
Bobcat as a whole is junk. Emissions are junk on everything. But Takeuchi is far better machine than a bob cat
SORRY YOU GUYS HAD TROBBLE
don’t use the Supertek DEF tha will get you limp mode
Shoot I’ve been running that crap for years
@@VBELTandSON Then it’s always fresh because you buy it
Emissions junk
Def👎