2021 Porsche Taycan 4 Cross Turismo: If a Tesla & an AMG E63s had a baby . . .
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- Another pre-production prototype Porsche arrives in the hangar from Germany, this time, the very unique 2021 Porsche Taycan 4 Cross Turismo. In this combo TECH REVIEW, FIRST DRIVE REVIEW & round of our famous #OptionsGame, MotoMan presents another fast, German station wagon that is different than all the others we covet on this show . . .
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One of the best looking estate cars I have ever seen. I agree it looks better than the regular Taycan
I don’t know why exactly but I can stop watching this vid, it is the 7th times in 2 days, something is wrong with me LOL
Cheers
This is definitely the sweet spot in the Taycan lineup. I don't see the need for extra performance of the Turbo or Turbo S that will just suck up range yet, it's still fast enough to be entertaining not to mention the roofline gives it better looks (IMO) and functionality. Definitely on my short list...
I love the cladding... I'm kinda, a rugged Porsche guy. Love the rally 911's. Green with cladding works 4me.
Macan Turbo owner. Would definitely consider this or the upcoming Macan EV as my next car. I do think however that the Macan EV will offer better value for money (as much as you can get when buying a Porsche).
Love the long roof! I’d definitely be interested in checking one of these out at some point in the future.
I have to admit it, the Porsche Taycan 4 Cross Turismo looks good enough to put the squeeze on the Porsche Macan.
the price is Not .
The upcoming new Macan is all electric. It looks rather sweet and is essentially a taller version of this.
I whole heartedly agree that I want a Sport Turismo moreso than a cross Turismo as I’m not huge on the black body cladding but it does blend in if you option a dark exterior color like the gentian blue
Great car...great review. Have on on order. Gave up my '19 Audi RS5 Sportback for this when the RS GT E-tron and GT E-Tron came out as sedans and not Sportbacks. IMHO best of both worlds with utility, EV, and AWD to boot.
Made sure to hit the like button before the video even started bc I love your content. Quick question that I’m sure you’ve been asked a million times. Are the planes and cars in the hangar yours?
they are not
I don't know how you manage to impart so much information while driving like that on a road like that. :0
Looks very appealing despite the compromises - apparently handles ok on gravel as well...
♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ Love your vids, MoToMan! (And shout out to Kumo as well!)
Kumo sez Thank You!
That little blue thing in the background... 🥰
Would take the little green thing over the little blue thing any day of the week. 😉
@@johnmcdermott5505 What is that little green thing anyway? Has a Jaguar engine.
@@tamasszabo8824 1938 Lagonda V12 Le Mans. Nice piece of kit.
@@johnmcdermott5505 Thanks!!
There seems to be a misunderstanding in the video about the ride height. The basic ride height of the Cross Turismo is 20 mm higher than the normal Taycan. So setting it to "normal" or going fast, doesn't set it to the same height as a regular Taycan. The gravel mode adds 10 mm, so regular Taycan +30 mm. With the optional offroad package the basic height is 30 mm higher than regular Taycan, but the gravel mode doesn't add anything to that.
No, I think you're wrong on the gravel mode; gravel mode moves the CT to 10 cm higher than the CT outside of gravel mode. I'm sure he's correct in that the 30-cm extra ground clearance (over the sedan) only works at speeds < 50 mph, and that > 50 mph the ground clearance stays at 20 cm higher than the sedan (though sport-plus mode may indeed lower the ground clearance further).
Love that color
I just love the way you review the cars... like the world is going crazy about SUV's, this is a way of making profit from the global fever... it's just logic my dear megarich youtuber! Kind regards!!
I hate the Taycan so much that I have never watched a single CZcams video of one, until this Cross Turismo wagon variant came out. I love this thing.
Super cool
It’s perfect the way it is it’s supposed to be more geared toward off roading and tuff terrain so the ride height and the cladding make sense
That red is gorgeous
On another note, my 2018 Mk8 Fiesta has adaptive cruise for pennies - and the entire thing costs less than the batteries in this car!!
I agree with MotoMan. The Cross Turismo would be more attractive without the cladding and raised ride height. Porsche does not need an Audi Allroad.
Wondering when you will be reviewing the Taycan Sports Turismo since it came out. I think it has the wish list you mentioned towards the end of this video.
This car is awesome!! I just can't afford it. Oh well. Moving on.
Porsche will sell a lot of these. Practical for everyday, space for weekends with friends, bad weather / poor road compatible. (eye watering price notwithstanding) should be a popular car up at the ski hills. Maybe the extra push we need to slow the trend away from SUV's? If the Panamera product planner wasn't worried before - they should be running for the door now. When can we see the wet / snow / mud version of this review?
Completely agree. Would love to see if this is an E alternative to my current SUVx4.
The important question is: Can Kumho fit in the trunk if you remove the cover?
Have to admit, he didn't like this one as much as I did. It's a tight squeeze for him. Have to put the seats down and really doesn't love standing up in this one.
@motomantv which would you have taycan 4 cross turismo or base 911 carrera?
My favorite car..
You seemed to be enjoying this taycan more than previous ones you’ve test driven (including the 4s). Is that an accurate impression? I’d so what about the cross turismo would make it more fun
Even better if we can get the sport turismo in RWD to knock $10k off the price. Either way I'm getting one.
best color in the world
I’d get mine in Gentian Blue, Aurum Cross Turismo wheels, black off road package, roof rails. Looking Like an original WRX wagon on steroids.
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@@petermadden6629 thanks, good color on the one Matt drove but everything else in that spec was terrible IMO. Such a great looking car though despite some questionable press car speccing
you can get without air suspension and without off road package, and you have taycan cross(sport turismo).. basic model, one i would like pick up in some crazy silver color so i dont have to wash every day and with 19'' 5 spoke aero wheels
This is the basic model in the Cross Turismo range.
Needs a longer roof and steeper rear glass to make it proper wagon. And lose the wheel arch cladding (spats?) and I would absolutely buy one.
In 1/43 rd scale I mean. The big one is all a little outside of my snack bracket unfortunately.
I completely agree with your Sport Tourismo idea for the Taycan…I’m not a fan of the extra cladding. No one will drive these on gravel and off-road…
The extra cladding is an option. I probably wouldn't get it
I’m talking about the extra cladding that is standard on the car. Then, as you say, there is additional cladding that comes with the off-road package, or whatever they are calling it. I’d get rid of all of it! Nice sheet metal lines, no cladding…
@motomantv which would you have taycan 4 cross turismo or base 911 carrera?
Used 991.2 Targa 4S Manual.
Heavily considering trading my 2019 M5 for this for the more practical cargo area. But then again, I could keep the M5 and add an X3 for cheaper. 😅
Or you could keep the M5 and buy a used i3 for next to nothing.
Is the I3 really a valid choice in 2021? There are so many new small electric cars.
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Please slow down a little George, your content output is astounding. I seriously can't keep up :-) Thanks, as always.
All I ask is that you share each episode on your socials.
Am I imagining here, that MotoMan is, on every drive of a Taycan variant, just a teeny bit more aware of the weight and associated understeer these cars exhibit?
I have a Taycan Turbo and yes the car cannot hide the weight but it does manage it well. The upgrade to the turbo was a stupid amount of money, but every time I drive it, it seems worth it somehow.
I've heard a sport Tourismo is coming...
I love how VW competes with itself in the HammerWagon segment. Besides Merc, who else is playing? Jaguar?
BMW will soon have an M3 touring. Do Jag offer fast wagons? I don't think I've ever seen one if they do
Alpina B5 Touring.
I can’t pay attention to this Taycan with the stunning 992 GT3 in the background
991.2*
It should have more ground clearance!
Wait for the electric Macan. That will solve any issues that this has with ground clearance.
It’ll be fine on the rough roads of Beverly Hills
Glad that I will buy a fully loaded Taycan Cross Turismo.
guess I'll need the Taycan Rally Sport Edition!
@@snakeeyes9246 But some of us prefer a lifted wagon to a crossover/SUV like the Macan...
This is like the Mercedes-Benz E63 S wagon versus the E450 All-Terrain Wagon. (lifted with less power)
More of a driver's car than an E450 All Terrain. czcams.com/video/EAawE-1I1L0/video.html
I want a well done Ariel Nomad in electric. Explore sleepy villages with bad or no pavement without obnoxious noise. But great ability to do do that fun bend or jump again. Some did an electric Nomad, I just need it done better. Maybe AWD, how'd that be?
Smallest and lightest of front motors. A Formula One unit can be like 8 kg for 160 bhp. There are nice and light pancake ones. Maybe do one per wheel, because TV. Same in back for tank turns. Like a Rivian truck but 1/4 the weight. Would not need huge power, the 4x4 traction makes it quick enough anywhere. Top speed to 200 kph more than enough, not too hampered on the odd tarmac track day.
Alternatively, bolt on a single Lucid 670 hp lightweight motor and a 4x4 driveshaft. Nice and basic, possibly and sure simpler to program. Pack from upcoming Tesla 4680 cells super low down.
And with unlimited body...could that tube frame be done in Titanium or ultra high end steel to sav some weight? To be daft, would a carbon tube frame work?
This is the beige interior?
Guy can Drive !
I disagree with you about the glass roof (which you say is a good thing that it's standard in the US): I don't want a glass roof and wish that we had the option in the US that the Europeans have to not get it (and save some extra money, presumably). Also, in all the CT reviews I've seen, nobody seems to have compared the rear-window view of the CT vs. the sedan rear-window view; I'm guessing that the wagon rear-window view is noticeably better than that of the sedan, but it would be nice for some assessment of that to be made known in a review like this.
I'm not a fan of the glass roof and I would option the car with rear wheel steering
if I had wanted a car with maximum cladding I would have bought a CRV. If you can afford this car, you can afford to have routine paint correction applications
what is the meaning of freanking
Normally I only watch reviews only once - this I had watch 3 times :)
With special clap effects :)
The future of cars is not so bad after all! Since we don't have a choice anyway - the future is EV only, looks like.
I just had a day with a RWD Taycan - could be my daily driver, just still concerns regarding long distances.
Love the Cross Tourismo idea and the extra usability! This color combo is delightful, good choice!
111.000 USD is less than over here. What would a lease be per month in the US?
Wishlist: I guess they will give us the normal Tourismo too - like the Panamera.
My wish is that solid state batteries will come and reduce the weight of EV´s massively.
thank for the awesome review!
Not me, I will buy a fully loaded Taycan Cross Turismo anyway in Turbo S form.
@@RichardJoashTan Congrats, for sure you will enjoy it!
Thanks for watching - multiple times - yet all I ask is that you share each episode on your socials (and Reddit)
@@MotoManTV will do - although my biggest social channel is Linkedin I have to admit
That wagon with the same cheap plastic around the wheels like a 18k Hyundai costs how much again?
I don't think of this Turismo as a wagon. It's like an extended hatch. I know people will say it's a "shooting brake" but it's a stretch to me. It's a Taycan. I performance vehicle.
taycan station wagon
The wheels look similar to urus wheels
Car looks good, but still not an EV guy. I would go Panamera Turismo.
The missing roof rails are a bummer and you can’t add them after...
I think they will fix that.
@@MotoManTV I think it’s a Porsche tax thing because the Cayenne and Macan have the same issue where if you don’t order them from the factory, you can’t get them installed later...
Quite frankly I wouldn’t give a 💩 if it only had 280hp if it had a 450 mile usable range, that would mean once a week charge up and a massive boost to convenience, particularly for drivers without the driveway charging ability
That wouldn’t be a Porsche though. It’s supposed to be a Porsche first, so it has to be fast. 280 isn’t enough
It’s an electric Panamera…. The problem with the Taycan is, if you have small children that require car seats, forget about it as an option, unless your front passenger is only 5’2”
"Electric "Engineering. One may say its one Smart vehicle?
Crunched the numbers, and to get a Cross Turismo similarly equipped to a Model S, it would be a 4S model at about $120k, $40k more than the Tesla. And you wouldn't have Tesla Superchargers, you wouldn't have it's range (400+ miles EPA), or performance (3.1 seconds to 60). It is better looking, and a Porsche, so for many the 50% premium is justified. One is the superior EV. One has raw sex appeal.
Taycan Sport Turismo!!... my view as well. Tired of the fake crossover lifestyle image.
Tesla/ Musk deserves applause for being responsible for this car's existence, I'm not an electric vehicle guy, especially a $100k+ electric vehicle, lol.
Agreed, now they can leave it to the big boys
Hopefully Porsche will get a handle on the problems with the Taycan soon. Too many are sitting on the side of the road w/ rear motor unable to talk to front motor.
The electric Porsche’s . This is overweight and has a real life range of under 200 miles . Range anxiety ?? I drive over two hundred miles a day often .... can’t work
Wrong. Just because Tesla overstates their range does not mean other manufacturers do. Edmund's has real world range figures for most EVs on the market and the Porsche Taycan 4S exceeded its official range by a whopping 59%. It actually went further than a Tesla Model S despite the Tesla claiming a 123 mile range advantage on paper. Check out Edmund's real world range figures and see for yourself. The Porsche did over 300 miles in their test and beat a Tesla model S in range traveled. Tesla and Polestar were the two manufacturers to constantly overstate their range figures whereas Porsche and Audi and Ford and Hyundai and Kia and Nissan exceeded their EPA figures.
Glass roofs get hot. I'm also skeptical from a NVH standpoint.
I agree on the roof.... why on earth would anyone living in the hotter parts of the country want a solar heating panel on top of them? Yes they have a shade, that for most cars does not block everything and still is hotter than a solid roof.
@@cmacd8879 Yeah they really don't block enough sun in hot climates. I've tried many of them. The glass is hot to the touch.
@@cadriver2570 I'm not even in hot CA (Canada) but summers are hot, and that is why I bought 2 cars that allowed sunroof delete.
@@cmacd8879 smart! I need to learn from my mistakes. haha :)
Porsches shouldn’t be red. Not even burgundy.
Hideous black trim around the wheels
I HATE station wagons, and this is one gorgeous automobile
If you spent $100k on it, just for the looks, I get it.
And its a Porsche, which helps.
A lot.
Not feeling the idea of an electric sports car. Maybe a naturally aspirated 911 hybrid with a small KERS battery will be OK.
I see no reason at all to choose this over an AMG E63s wagon. None.
Faster, better handling and doesn’t have a weird looking rear end. Do u need any more reasons ??
@@charliebower2473 not to mention better looking inside and out ...
u&I???noooooo
I know you know that you are almost never wrong, and in this case you might slide by because you called the charge door "very cool" and didn't really endorse it. You might have told your great subscribers, however, that it adds to the drag because it blocks the air coming through the slot and it tries to close on your finger when you bump it with the charger nozzle- and sometimes decides by itself not to open when you need to charge and is therefore not worth the party trick benefit. :-) I will, however, forgive you because you carefully block off the curvy road you use to do these tests so you don't run into the idiot coming the other way on your side of the road. Stay safe, my pilot friend (bet I flew before your did :-)). PS I agree with you that I would write a check for it without the "off-road" features and 4S. PPS. The '66 911 plowed terribly until you let off the throttle, the the back end became the front end.
:)
50mph? Lame!
At least give us a wannabe rally car for all that money! Porsche Dakar heritage and all!
Range of EV's is a very murky concept. Max range will be marketed and mentioned on reviews, but its the range between charges + time to charge that matters. And with that, I submit all EV's fail. They are city cars. And in a country of interstate highways and longer range travel options (as flying becomes more expensive and burdensome) the EV comes up short. I will take my SUV with a 400 mile range: 350 miles between fill ups + 5 min refuel, all day long. Not to mention the environmental impact of the battery raw materials (lithium & cobalt).
Agree but also admit it depends where you live.... I'm in the west where we do 400-2000 mile road trips all the time, so its as you state. But friends out east drive way shorter trips than I do, they are kind of "extended city" in range needs. For many Easterners, EVs could work OK.
Why did they have to add that ugly black plastic cladding?
Gravel protection?
he explained it, I thought... protection from gravel and other stuff when off pavement... I don't think it's ugly at all, having a Volvo Cross Country wagon... They will make a Sport Turismo for those of you who don't like the raised/molding look...
@@panameradan6860 These are NEVER going to go off pavement. The most these will ever go off-road is to park on the grass while attending little Becky's soccer game.
I just watched the 2022 911 GT3 video on Leno's channel, what a beautiful car in shark blue, true perfection. This thing..... fuck this is an abomination.
An improvement over the sedan Taycan in looks and packaging, but if they could only do something about the front. The way the headlights are integrated is awkward looking and not a thing of beauty. Also the black cladding on the arches looks cheap as it does on the Audi Allroad, VW Alltrack, MB E450 All Terrain, just let Subaru own it for themselves for their fanboys.