Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo 4 range test
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Another super detailed video. Just leaving a comment for the YT algorithms.
Strange to know, were you in the States, you would already have 1 mil subs.
Especially when no-one really has your , hands-on and feet-on, approach.
You do the most work, Bjorn and it will pay up, slowly but surely.
You deserve all the props.
Yeah he really deserves way more subs with all the hard work. No one is even close
I love his videos as well but it would be even better if he would state miles/kW not just KM/kW. UK and US is a huge market but they don’t understand kilometres and they are too lazy to use their calculator.
@@dangr3957 A quick on screen conversation would do the job - like some of the big UK sites do when speaking miles they show the KM stat on screen
Yeah I think so, one thing I can suggest to him, if he can visit India, his subs may explode. Bjorn is highly underrated.
@@RANINAGHI ikr?
Can you make another video where you count how many EVs there are on the roads in Norway? The last one is almost 2 years old
I seen that mg5ev with new facelift arrived to Norway. I am excited how much views it will get you when you have chance to test it as so many people have been waiting for it.
2:40: The infrared "Night Vision" camera is a brilliant idea that all automakers should offer. However, it appears that Porsche has erred by keeping the same formula as on my Panamera and in the current Cayennes: namely, that the camera is mounted way-too-low on the front of the car (it should be mounted at the top-center of the windshield, behind the rear-view-mirror complex) and it has a very narrow field-of-view (it needs a much-wider wide-angle lens) that prevents you from seeing off to the sides in any meaningful manner (where arguably the majority of threats reside)... But one thing that this infrared camera is good for that isn't mentioned much is that it can pierce through dense fog, day or night -- making it a really valuable safety tool.
aww 1:19 made me remember my Ibiza, never change VW! :)
You can see that the front night view camera uses infrared vision. Look at the heat from the car passing you. From the radiator into the wheel wells and from the exhaust pipe
Fun fact: If a fossil car is consuming 6 l/100 km and 1 litre of fuel contains 10 kWh and the car is driving at 100 km/h, the car is burning 60 kW! And if the efficiency is 30 % then only 18 kW goes into motion and 42 kW goes into heat! That's insane!
@@bjornnyland oh yes it is.... And still many people don't get it... They buy a efficient Diesel.... because EVs don't have the 1000km range they "need"
@@bjornnyland well it's 8,9kwh/l and todays petrol engines reach an efficiency of 210g/kwh with regular gasoline and without a turbocharger. 30% efficiency is 270g/kwh und was archived already in the 40s on piston airplanes but yes you're right. Modern GE turbine can do 130-135g/kwh producing only electricity and you can use the heat for district heating and even after losses it will be more efficient to charge your car with pure gas powered plants than to use driving it.
6l at 100km/h is also rather badly. With 30% efficiency it's 5,4l after losses and way less with modern engines so on a Camry HEV you'd rather use 30kwh per 100km in pure fuel. Way less of a difference. That wasn't the point of my post I just found it cool that the heat was visible on the camera
@@bjornnyland is also insane that you have to put electrons with practically zero weight and only 80kwh of energy into almost one tone heavy battery when you can put much more energy from fossil into 10kg fuel tank 😀😀😀
Mine have 21kw/100km mean consumption over 12000km now, some done with 19” winter tyres and som with 21” and same wheels size as your test, but pirelli tyres. It seems to be using around 10-20% more with sommer tyres 21” than with winter tyres 19” i estimate based on the same kind of driving, although warmer now in summer but with a bit more speed. Not sure excactly of course but something like that…not really an issue as the car is amazingly fast to charge in summer and varmer weather at least if needed.
Nice to watch your videos 👍
Cross 4S is also rear wheel drive default cruising in normal and range mode btw.
Thanks again for everything. Leave a message for YT algorithm
This thing is massive 😧
That's what she said.
Usable battery capacity is 83.5kWh. I get about 440 km in Range mode on a trip at ambient temp between 18 and 25 C. If you are using the gross battery capacity of over 90kWh for your efficiency calcs, you will be wrongly inefficient. Since new my overall usage has been 18.6 kWh per 100 kms over 5000kms. Hope that is useful.
TB assumed 84.6 kWh usable capacity. So roughly the same as your 83.5 and still got relative low efficiency based on his range test.
Look at actual measured capacity here:
czcams.com/video/LZ4dypyQokY/video.html
The consumption with the narrowest tires (tire online shop shows me 225/55/19 for the Cross Turismo 4?!) would be interesting, because the high consumption must come from somewhere.
i have the 21 rims and all season tires - they are 305's in the back and definitely what eats electrons!! Im swapping to narrower 19's with summers soon and will see how my range changes. I always tell people that if you want range you need narrow tires! cant get crazzy range with 305s where you get the handling and looks :)
thank you - 2,5 t weight is a no-go.
Would love see the new Porsche Taycan with the faclift wich now has a charching speed of 320 kw and a bigger Batterypack
Spec’d out one of these for fun and it’s hysterical how quick these things break $200k USD. They’re beautiful fat ass cars though.
In the end it's a sports car that happens to be electric. This car is not about efficiency but for being impressive
Unfortunately I think this is a miscalculation on Porsche's behalf...this is a car to be driven distances. They should have focused more on the marathon instead of the short race.
It's a four door estate, not a sports car.
You are right it’s much more impressive than any 911
@@stephaneallroad8789 911 gives you much more emotions and is way lighter and more nimble. They fulfill two completely different roles
nice vid! will you do a 1000km run @Bjørn Nyland ?
Already done.
Hi Bjørn!
After these consumption results for the CT4, would be very interesting if you can make a second video with 20’ wheels (Turbo S aero design) to see the real impact in highway range and consumption.
The choose between the sexy 21’wheels and the 20’ less nice but more eficcient is always a tough decision. Thanks
I'd like to see it done with the 19-inch Aero wheels -- which is the only way I'd consider buying this car...
I'm definitely looking for exactly that test. The i4 M50 loses about 40-50 miles of range with the 20" wheels compared to the skinny 18" wheels. Maybe the same for the Taycan CrossTurismo?
Fat Taycan with 205 width tires would be efficient
But idk how sketchy it is to drive that
Please do taycan Gts too 👍
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Hi mate! Are you a pilot ? Cuz you are using the same words as we are talking in the aircraft hahah, like headwind, always talking about the degrees 😃 drag, weight 😂😂😂 tell me the true . Nice video ! ;)
Why does Porsche want the tire pressure more than 20% lower than a Model S 2,5 vs 3,2 bar? Does Tesla spec too high a pressure?
I still love this car. The EV industry is still young and not completely developed, and this is a pretty expensive car, so chances are, whoever buys this car can also afford to buy another gas powered car to use on long trips
Er det crayon farge på denne?
Nice Car. Consumption for me is OK.
with the 20" Aero design Wheels it would be more comparable. These tires are the most ineffecient tires/rims for these car.
The Tesla Model S Raven has been tested with the narrowest tires there are and the Porsche with the widest one.
245 width vs. 285/305 width / Aero rims vs. Crosstourismo Design rims.
Not really comparable!
Model S Performance Raven with 21" 265 rear tires were tested at 90 km/h and the consumption was 164 Wh/km. That's still way lower than Taycan's 190 Wh/km.
czcams.com/video/yY-sQWvBgE4/video.html
@@bjornnyland thanks for the answer :-)
I was referring to your spreadsheet 06:45. You show a test with Tesla S LR Raven with 245 19" tires and a consumtion 194 Wh at 120 km/h (and 144Wh at 90 km/h).
My opinion: the Cross Tourismo 4 is on the same level like the Taycan 4S (with the same tire diameter).
What to prove :-)
I understand that you don't get any kind of car with any kind of tires or rims to test.
:-)
4:49 The salesman i met from bmw told me that the ix has a lower drag-coefficient than the bmw i8, in other words not so wierd that it beats the taycan CT…
Cd is useless without talking about CdA.
210 highway miles is plenty as that's about 3 hours of driving and the charging curve is awsome as well.
Not really, as you have to factor in hills/mountain driving, and winter temps. You will get range anxiety with this car.
As a person who actually owns this vehicle I can confirm that the range is great for my needs on a road trip. 3+ hours of drive time while doing 80+ MPH and 15-20 minute charging sessions at each stop. I just completed an 1100 mile road trip and this car was amazing. I don’t have any range anxiety.
@@hirschaj that won’t fly in the North American west - my friend with Tesla even had trouble when a charge station they were planning on using was kaput - they were sweating bullets to reach the next charge station.
We definitely need more plentiful charging stations but range anxiety mainly comes from poor planning on road trips. Gas stations are everywhere, charging stations are not. EVs require more planning for road trips right now.
In winter? With proper speeds? Good luck driving more then 120miles before reaching less then 10%... Its ridiculous
Which country is this?
Great review, job well done. Does the people who buy that kind of car really care about consumption? I doubt it but I could be wrong. Thumbs up for Bjorn!
I’m considering this car don’t care about consumption but very worry about the range especially at highway speeds
@@kamil9090 well, usual one goes with the other. The range is affected by the consumption.
But it's a great car.
@@ruipinto2202 exactly thats why consumption in electric Cars matters and its definitely not a finance factor
The BMW iX more efficient than a fat Taycan, what’s the world coming too.
Yep once again it just proves that Tesla is king in performance and range, regardless of model! Thanks
So why are there so many light buttons on the left of the main dashboard? Constantly illuminated in your face. Drives me crazy! Doesn't Porsche have automated lighting sensor like other cars? It has been decades since I manually had to switch on my lights. But at Porsche this button gets the prime location?? That entire interface is a 50 year old mindset in a modern jacket. Or old wine in new bags? :)
Yo whats up
Worst part this car cost way too much for the range you get. Performance is good, but you cant mostly use unless you are on autobahn..
Its funny how you pronounce BMW in propper german but you still misspell PorschE 😂
It's funny how people don't understand that I troll them :P
for being fat is actually quite skinny :D .... i tried it in BKK ...
Bro, look at that infotainment system. So laggy. It grinds my gears to see these expensive cars with Playstation 2 performance info. systems. Not to mention you don't even get cruise control This is total madness.
put 19-inch wheels on the CT4 and get back to me.... why anybody serious about range puts giant wheels on a BEV is mind-boggling to me
Apparently the new taycan gts is a lot more efficient? I recently watched a test where it managed 515 km at 90 km/h (consumption ~170 Wh/km) and 400 km at 120 km/h (consumption ~210 Wh/km):
czcams.com/video/RJTWmQ1y5nE/video.html (time 45:45)
FAT PARKING SKILLS :-)
Good video as always. but jeez is that a bad consumption. terrible efficiency I think. but yeah probably noone bying that is concerned about efficiency... sadly ...
Germans will 'invent' a fake consumption meter If you complain too much about efficiency ;)
In the next version they change the software so it shows better consumption when it is being tested.
@@ARPost-kn2jl Most cars will soon recognize Björn's test roads and make the numbers better 😁
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Model s doesn’t have 400m range 😂. 300m at most.
300 m is not much. Even my Leaf has way more range than that!
Great video, thanks. Ugly and inefficient car.
Overpriced beast
They are wide, not fat