FIX THIS BAND! Ep.3: Cocaine -Could the "WORST Band Ever" Shock the World?
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this series will truly illustrate that a lot of the time 'bad' art is significantly more valuable than good art for learning
That's so crazy, I had an art teacher tell me that about 25 years ago. I wish more people understood this...
I blame the Cocaine!
Success is easy to take for granted. Wise people learn from failure.
Your channel certainly does illustrate that.
@@CorbCorbin I blame delusions of grandeur!
They revolutionized music! No band has ever put 4/4, 3/4, 5/4, 7/8, 9/10, 11/16, 3/7 and a half timing, in one song.
Rush! Lol
Danny Carey rushing to the studio as we speak
I know some shirtless guys that did a cover of "Sweet Child of Mine" that are asking you to hold their beer. It's one thing for a band to switch time signatures, it's quite another when all members are playing different time signatures at the same time.
@@ElSantoLuchador Maybe your unsophisticated ears didn't get what they were trying to lay down. It was avant-garde prog rock with polyrhythms.
All in the key of H too
It's amazing how just a steady drummer can change so much in a live performance.
Yes, this is very important.
I’ll take a simple, consistent drummer, who knows the songs, over a more technically proficient, but flashy drummer, trying to go beyond their abilties, and think they can wing it, on a majority of songs.
I’ve pulled off better versions, helping people at open mics, with similar methods shown here.
Give the drummer a simple beat, simple bass line, one note for the chorus, and have the bass player close enough they can watch me, in case they fall off.
I always tell the bass player “if you start playing off, just stop, and go back to your root note(which I show them again). Wait a few beats, then come back in.”
And I push them towards songs that have no changes, or one change.
In a band. If a member only practices at band practice, it’s usually obvious. I always get with the frontman, or whomever’s project it is, and I add a song that is beginner level, but will take the minimum effort of practice, if one hasn’t played it, to weed out who actually practices on their own to learn their parts.
Even though I stink at drums, I will listen and memorize signature things, and I learn what everyone is playing.
I play what the acoustic, or rhythm guitar is doing, or supposed to be, the bass part and my part. I also learn the lyrics and vocal parts of the songs, to the point I could pull off the show if needed.
It’s a lot funner keeping it simple, and sounding good, than being frustrated playing stuff the band isn’t ready for.
@CorbCorbin yeah, all sensible and doable stuff. And one song I really love (and should be easy to play) only has 1 chord the whole song. The Beastie Boys sabotage.
The poor drummer is confused by how the guitar and bass are not together and not playing the riff right. If a drum machine was playing behind them, I don't think it would have helped. They didn't know the song. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Well it helps if he can keep time at least. Fills are that hard either.
Without a good drummer you'll go nowhere.
Metallica excepted.
"The drummer was just floating along" - that's 80% of the problem. It sounded like the dude had no idea where he was and kept derailing the other guys. If everyone agrees on a time, it'll immediately sound tolerable.
100% 🙏
Really goes to prove the saying that the band's only as good as their drummer
My first reaction was that the song must be in a really weird time signature or something. I went to spotify and listened. It's a standard rock kick on one and three and snare on 2 and 4. Oh man. Totally agree.
It's really hard when the drummer and the guitar player play two different songs at the same time.
Reminds me of a bunch of beginner level players thrown together at an open mic or open jam and they decided to try a song they all "know" but never tried to play before. Singer reading the lyrics from a crumply piece of paper is a good clue to that.
Appreciate this series.
I just couldn't take my eyes off the drummer watching the bassist, the bassist watching the drummer, and neither one could decide on a time signature for the song. If your heartbeat is broken the rest has no chance.
Excellent suggestions Mike, and the "fixed" version sounded great.
However bad they are (were?) though they're still doing something I can't, and getting up there and playing for others. Gotta give them credit for that.
Edit to add.... Just watched the Comfortably Numb video. He didn't need the lyrics on a piece of paper for that one, so at least we know he's got some great taste 😊
Yeah, the rhythm section was not in charge here. Bass and drums need to rehearse and get locked in, rest of the band would hopefully follow.
Something a lot of drummers forget is that you can play a straight 4/4 and sound great. Four on the floor, and get people dancing. Just keep it in time and play with some gut.
It's amazing how good a four-on-the-floor dance beat with some spicy high hat work can sound. Disco is proof of that.
Some people forget how good 4/4 can be. I feel like a lot of drummers, much like guitarists, want to do all the crazy stuff (I know I do when it comes to guitar, but that's for party tricks mostly) first, and they kind of forget the basics.
The first power station album. Tony Thompson was a pocket drummer like that.
The vast majority of all the greatest and most popular songs of all time are 4/4. The audience doesn't care if you're playing in 7/12 or whatever weird time.
We'll see there lays the problem. If the drummer couldn't hold that song in the pocket. Then we are doing drummers of the world a huge injustice calling said person that just randomly wondered on stage and grabbed the biggest prettiest instrument up there. Drummer absolutely not.
How do people that can play at that level (or can’t play really) end up on a stage in public? It doesn’t even seem real.
Thats kinda of whats cool about it, anyone can go up there
this is why band practice is so important,,
Does this band practice?
REHEARSAL. lol
@@Lance37a I reckon they held one sesh where the singer tried to get them to learn the songs, and they spent most of the time chatting or drinking while the singer weakly protested that they should "get back to it", and that was their lot.
And learning to play instruments and sing.
Originally I initially thought you were wading into territory that would make you appear like a giant a-hole with this series. You’ve never come across like that in any other vid, BUT after a few episodes and this one especially, I get it. Improving is tough for anyone, and constructive criticism is the only way to get better.
I love this vid cuz we’ve all been in that bands position before.
Many kudos for having the brass to tackle this subject for others to learn from. Great idea and I still want the dive bomb from “I’ve had enough” but that’s another subject.
I sent you something on IG if you check your msgs.
Hope all is well and happy new year!
"We’ve all been in that bands position before."
I have never and would never be in that band's position, because that band's position is getting up on stage and trying to play a song that nobody in the band knows. It doesn't sound like they've rehearsed it even once. Furthermore, no one in that band even knows how to play their instrument generally. What they are doing is an insult to the audience.
Problem is they brought their suck to the stage and expected it not to suck.
@@theinstituteofmonkeygunvio2542 Fair comment. They should have rehearsed and understood at least the basics of what they were doing. My first band when i was 16, Myself and the bass player barely knew how to play, we had two rehearsals, created three tracks, and supported at a gig the next weekend. It was NOT great but it was kind of a thrashy punk band and nobody really noticed how bad it was. Luckily we had a great drummer and sax player. Still better than this though! 😂 - but that's not difficult.
We live in an age where criticism means you're an A-hole ☠️
@@theinstituteofmonkeygunvio2542 You're completely correct, if they had a practice together and had to hear themselves sound like this I'd assume most rational people would say hey maybe lets not go on stage. I mean the guitar player at the front looks like he's been playing a few months max. If you're going to play live you have the responsibility to at least be able to make it sound musical, it obviously doesn't have to be perfection. But like you said it's an insult to the audience, with problems that are easily fixable and preventable with a little work.
This is why the rhythm section is the heart of every band. Play to a click if you have to. Timing is everything
It would be really cool to get a reaction from this band.
I love your new series , it is very helpful.
Ya know, cudos to them for even mustering enough live bodies to hold the instruments. Unfortunately where I live it would take an act of congress to get someone to even show up
Good luck with that. They're probably too busy headlining arenas right about now.
OMG that song “Cocaine” haunts me. I played clubs in the 80s and every awful band I ever saw played very VERY long versions of the song. It was pure filler it just went on and on and on and on and on and on…
Would be awesome to see you go work with these bands for one week and see how much they can improve.
Exactly. I’m not comfortable with this series as it doesn’t include the bands input.
This bands needs to rehearse, rehearse, rehearse! Then when they can’t play another note, rehearse again!
A good performing bands, has probably spent hundreds of band-hours to get there, and hundreds more on their own,
Then when they take the stage, they make it look effortless.
@@Souldoubtrocks why are you not comfortable? the videos are already on the internet hes not even being mean to the bands hes just saying how they can improve
I like how you present and teach a simpler version of the piece that a beginning band could actually pull off, that still sounds good. Probably too many beginning bands try to play a song exactly like the original. I appreciate the positive attitude and growth mindset that is inherent in this video series.
Wow. That was so practical… this is exactly what my jam band needs. Often simpler is better, just do your parts , don’t overplay. Real eye opener.
I personally would never go up on stage like this knowing I wasn't ready. But as someone who has played guitar for over six years, there is something to learn from being able to just enjoy making music for its own sake. That's that point after all, even if you are butchering the song. Respect to these guys.
Here is a link to their interview:
czcams.com/video/fTEaEgQYkNc/video.html
Their name is "Hush" because they were at the music store and someone hushed them. Again, respect.
It was me. They mistook “that sucks,” for “Hush!”
@@CorbCorbinthat's funny
Why you act like 6 years is a long time of guitar playing?
I don't think it really matters if these guys were ready for the stage or not. I saw some haybales in the audience and that's about it.
I’ve definitely gone up on stage without being ready.
Would not recommend, however the only thing worse than sucking on stage is sucking off stage
That was almost painful! I do like how the guitarist put his foot on the monitor during the solo. 😂
Most of the top drummers, at least from my experience playing, will tell you that the hardest thing to learn and get used to is to stay in the god damn pocket and develop the dynamic feel for each song that you play. These guys have a lot of work to do but they are still doing it, rocking it, kudos to them for having the balls to go onto a stage.
These dudes have got to be just trolling people no way their sense of timing can be that bad.
Man, it would have been incredibly easy to just rip into these guys (as half the internet already has), but you took the high road and offered some really solid, constructive advice that can help a lot of bands at this level. Not a lot of people would take the time to do that. I hope the positivity you're putting out in the world comes back to you tenfold.
I would love to see an episode where you actually work with the band. That would be so cool.
I took lessons at this music store lol. Big City Music.
I love these guys in a crazy way lol. Their version of comfortably numb is amazing. Just some hard-working dudes it looks like, just doing what they do..❤
Dude, that snare of yours is 🔥
The “Music” sign in the background is awesome. It’s reminiscent of a South Park episode.
Really cool of you to do this. Helps other musicians learn and they could eventually achieve what you played at the end
Great new episode and I like that you added the "fix" at the end of the video which improves the concept of this series.
Great stuff Mike.
I think what this illustrates for me, is that we need to take videos of our playing, whether it’s in a Band setting, or at home by ourselves. This gives us a way to listen and learn from our mistakes.
As poor as this was it was impossible for them or anyone to play with this drummer. They either try to play with him or to follow him or chase him which is not possible as the drummer seems to be trying to follow anyone or anything else. Had they played with no drummer whatsoever from the start they would have had a better chance.
If your drummer is weak, there’s nothing ANYONE can do.
I played that bass part too. When I played bass in our classic rock cover band, I had just picked up bass. So I was learning as I went. I did however stick to root notes.
I found if I strayed too hard and made things too complex, or if it just wasn't sounded good, I went back to root notes.
As I progressed, I got more confidant and it became more fun and challenging comming up with parts to compliment the song.
I almost always start off a solo slow and then build. It adds excitement and flavor as opposed to just shredding...lol.
This is a really really cool Series. Pls. Keep it going! I've learned severeal things, and its also quite entertaining to watch. Thanks!
Holy fucking shit , you made that guys lyrics actually work! I am amazed.
Ive watched a few of your stuff before but this is an awesome series. Please keep doing these.
Loving these series so far. Wish you a happy New Year, Mike. Happy New Year to all followers too. I promise to pick my guitar back and work my lazy ass in 2024.
I'm learning some great feedback from you doing these fix the band critiques. F what anyone says.
You are giving positive feedback with grace and kindness. You're providing the public a good service.
This is actually genius. It's like if Captain Beefheart covered Cocaine.
Not enough bass solo in this though
making love to a vampire with a monkey on my knee was like a fever dream
I love this video format for this series! Your edits sounded great at the end, too!
His simplified version sounds almost as good as Clapton's version. Just goes to show how important rhythm and playing together are.
I really like your approach to this series. Personally, I cringe when I play back my live guitar tracks soloed out and I've been told my songs' tempos "breathe", just a fancy way of saying my internal metronome is inconsistent, but you seem to approach your critique with the ultimate goal of improving band cohesion and, ultimately, better quality live shows. Love it.
They sound like it’s the first time playing this song. Ever.
It could be. Maybe another band cancelled and these guys filled in at the last minute.
They sound like it's the first time playing any song. Ever.
Great video! Really enjoyed your recording of suggested improvements at the end👍🏼
At the end of the day, props to these guys for getting up and playing in front of people. Obviously you want people to enjoy your music, whether it be original or cover. It sucks being up there and forgetting a part or feeling like you're messing up frequently. Everybody has the potential to be a good musician and getting up there and playing in front of people is part of the learning experience
Really like the series, very interesting and helpful.
Curious if there were plans to do a few videos of bands that maybe have more subtle performance issues that you could discuss?
For sure. Future episodes coming. ;)
I love this video. It's very instructive for struggling beginners. Instead of just making fun of them, you show and demonstrate how it could be better. I hope they see this video. I want them to improve. They seem like humble sweet guys.
This format is so entertaining and informative at the same time. Thank you for your effort!
Yes, this is the way to do it. Simplify the song to a level where you can play the parts. Which can be hard to do if you're inexpeienced.
1. Kudos for them playing live music. That's a plus - always.
2. The singer and everyone is really nervous. Many of the smiles are chimp grimaces - which is what we do when we're really, really uncomfortable. His stares may simply be intensity.
3. The drummer and bassist must get in synch. I feel that this is more important than the bassist doing a riff correctly. Communication is 100% of being in a band.
4. It's sound advice for the singer to learn his lines.
5. Really enjoyed your 'revamped version'. That's impressive and shows that the singer's voice is pretty characteristic which is something going for him.
Love this series Mike 🎶💕 you’re so talented!
one of your best series mike. amazing how a little sound work and basic instrument proficiency can improve a performance...
I love this series! Please keep making these videos
Great video. It’s neat to hear your suggestions.
That was really awesome and shows people there is hope! Baby steps to build confidence! Nice job!
I’m glad I stuck around for your “enhanced” version of this! Dont stop this video early!
This was the best one yet! Love the "this is how it could have been" segment. I bet that was a lot of fun to put together.
Love the suggestions are achievable within maybe a couple of practices…really appreciate the “improved version” at the end to tie all of them together…
Great video. I feel much better about my progress as a guitar player now!
I once bought a cheap knock-off Rolex on holiday in Thailand. It broke before I got back from holiday.... still kept time better than this band 😅
Great tip on the solo. Whenever I'm stuck for a solo, I start with the vocal line and build from there. Even if you don't quite nail the vocal line, there is still something to go with.
Great job, Mike! The thing I like most about your fixed version is that even though it sounds great, you've kept it as basic as possible so that even this band should have the technical ability to pull it off. TBH you could probably get four people who've never touched a musical instrument in their lives and have them playing your version of Cocaine in a few hours.
I remember in high School guitar class I had a friend who said they wanted to cover fade to black but would never want to practice when id ask him to go over the song. Then months later at the talent show after performing a solo piece on my own the event was taking volunteer performances and my friend all of a sudden practically was trying to push us to the stage to play fade to black and I said hell no. .. basically the point of me sharing this is know when you should play or when to sit down and keep practicing.
Amazing how they manage to be in different times... All at the same time! 😂
The song is played in 5 different time signatures at the same time.
The drummer laughing at 3:28. "Yeah, I know we suck." Lol
I lovvvvvvve this series, very cool dude, and I can show this to my band members and if we don’t learn anything at least we can laugh at our past mistakes.
Always enjoy watching your facial expressions in the corner as you run the video. But I also appreciate that you are giving good tips to people. Not just these particular bands, but good tips for anyone who watches. What bands like this really need is to practice in a garage or some other practice space for a while. This just sounds like a random open stage night.
Love this series. Looking forward to more
best thing i've seen on youtube in a while. your approach is very helpful and insightful
Great job - love the “fixed” recording at the end!
Great video. Would love to see you do a cover of the song playing all parts as close to the original as possible.
I would love to see them again after some time. Not backing down after something like that will always pay off 💪
Love this series thanks 🙏
This is an interesting new series. As an amateur guitarist in a cover band I love the idea of being able to see what these bands do that is similar to our band, and fix it. But, there is a problem... you are picking wildly bad bands. There are certainly little things you find that the rest of us watching might miss, but most of the problems with these bands are obvious to most of us. Even if the viewer doesn't know what exactly was wrong, they can tell that something is wrong. It would be extra cool if every now and then in this series you pick a performance that generally sounds ok to amateurs and non-professionals, but to a professional like you still has room for improvement.
Thanks again for the great series! Absolutely love it!
Hey Mike, I love these series
This was great! Awesome job.
What truly blows my mind is, their equipment. I've seen people do this before. All sitting around, talking, having a few beers and someone says "Hey! We should start a band!". Even though nobody really knows their craft yet. Then, they spend thousands of dollars on equipment that they don't even really know how to operate properly much less NEED to learn. I've been playing for 52 years. My Dad was a drummer and when he found I had a knack for guitar, he wanted to encourage it. But, he also said he would get me my first guitar and amp and that it would be good but NOT top of the line. I was 8 years old at the time. He didn't want me fighting against myself while I learned. This was in 1972. So, for Christmas that year, I had 2 presents under the tree. A used '68 Gibson Cherry Sunburst Les Paul and, a Fender Twin Reverb that was about 5 years old. Not new. Not top of the line BUT, perfect for learning on and to see if I was going to move forward with it. Mind you, my hands were so small that I was almost 12 before I could do a full Bar Chord. LOL! The point I'm trying to make is they should have never spent that kind of money on Marshalls and SG's and the like until they knew they could pull it off. They could have gotten a Nice Peavey 212 and a some Ibanez or Schecter guitars and mastered their craft on those. I was almost 18 before I started upgrading my equipment but, I knew by that point that I was going to continue with it a progress with it. It was financially worth it by then. And no, I don't have that '68 anymore. Believe me, I kick myself every day about it!
Almost the same for me. I got interested in playing guitar when I was around 16 or so. Not having too much money to spend my mom got me a cheap Ken Rose guitar together with a small practice amp. Good enough to be able to get my feet wet, so to speak. It was years later (the amp was more or less broken by that time, it sounded awful even in clean mode. Guess I overdid it with the distrotion) that I upgraded to a Roland amp and a Fender Squire (still not top notch). I immediatly noticed the change in quality of my sound, but I don't think I would have gotten to that point, if I hadn't been messing around with the cheaper gear beforehand, trying out different things to improve my sound the natural way. I didn't even include a foot switch in my gear until years later (even though, I really should have. Just a switch to be able to switch between clean and distortion).
So yeah, expensive equipment is more expensive for a reason (well, most of the time anyway), but I think especially beginner players should learn the trade on cheaper gear. Not only didn't they spent a ridiculous amount of money on expensive stuff if they learn that guitar (or any other instrument) isn't really for them, they also will figure out a way around technical limitations of their equipment. Which in turn will only help them in the long run if they choose to upgrade to more expensive stuff.
4:43 had me rolling
nice video mike!
The problem here is that drums, bass and guitar are all trying to adjust separately to how far each one of them is out of time so any sense of rhythm goes completely out of the window. The drummer needs to just lay down a steady beat instead of trying to get in time with the bassist who is way off because he's just making him worse by making the beat so stilted. To be fair to the singer it would be almost impossible to sing over that mess.
Haha yeh that singer was cueing the guitar hard out!! 😂😂😂
The effort and thought you put on these really show in the final result.
Love the slingblade reference . It's my favorite movie ever.
Great video series 👍
Wow this is a masterclass! Keep with the tips that all bands could use 🙌🏼
Hahaha this vid is awesome. Keep these up man!
I'm in my sixties now, I do one man band shows no background tracks. Just boss drum machines and I sound better than a lot of bands. I like the way you show what's out there in the world.
Man, I love what you did with this ! Very fun take
the Slingblade ref was perfect!.
Man you hit the nail on the head with this series!! The singer is actually the best musician in the band. Thanks man and happy holidays from Montreal Canada!
The singer was completely out of time when he was trying to get the guitarist to follow him. There's nothing that can be salvaged from this trainwreck
For those old enough to remember record speeds...
Singer at 78.
Bass at 33 1/3.
Drummer at 45.
Result is a mess.
Positive thing is they got guts to "play" in front of people.
Super Work Mike, to help Others!👍 Kongrats for the 850.000 👏 ...and the best Whishes for 2024! 🎉 (...and Sorry for my rusty School-English! 🙈)
...old Gerd, from Germany👴🤘
Yess! Congrats on 850k Subscribers 🤘🏻🔥 that bass looks awesome! This was crazy to watch haha, I love the song Cocaine, and Slingblade mmhmm. Looking forward to the Sanctus episode 🤘🏻
«There's a big sign behind them that says Music.». You just made me smile with this line my friend.
Awesome I love this series!
I'm learning a lot from this series, Thanks
Great suggestion on the lyric memorization. I've used the same approach to avoid the music stand and iPad by writing in big letters the 1st word or two of each line on paper, placing that on the floor. Eventually you get to the point where you only need the 1st word of each verse, chorus and bridge. Then you finally get to the point where you’ve memorized those few words to remind you of the entire song, but you can always keep your sheets on the floor for that rare occasion when your mind goes blank, or you haven't sang the song for quite some time. I once made this suggestion to a guy and he said I would rather keep using my music stand until I memorize all the songs. Years later, the giant black stand still has it's place front and center on the stage. I'm not saying it's against any law to read lyrics. I'm just suggesting as you were, a way to have a cleaner stage and rid yourself of what looks like, to some, as an unprofessional crutch. A teleprompter floor wedge is a better alternative. There are many videos for DIY teleprompters. I love your videos. I'm learning a lot. Thank you and keep em coming.
I somehow knew these guys would make an appearance on this series... You did great analyzing them going off what there actually was to work with and being kind about it. A band such as this should put in some practice and rehearsal time to get to some degree of being on the same page before performing. It definitely seemed they were reading different chapters. However, I do give them props for getting up there and performing. Your edit did a great job of showing what could be with the source material if they had found some degree of cohesiveness and timing.
I like that you have advice for all the instruments.
We like this series Mike. Don't have any doubts! We like it!
These videos are as fun as some blow and a rolled up $100 bill! Keep up the great work!
👏👏👏
Great series. I wish I could go back in time and record a band I saw at a punk fest downtown where I live.
So bad but entertaining. Band was so unsure and gutiar player keep asking dumb questions onstage like “So how many more songs we got?”. Made them look very unprepared.
The singer was trying to be M Shadows or something. But couldn’t sing. And he kept using a theremin but don’t think he knew how.
Wish you could of seen it.
Lesson to learn for all musicians. Practice your stuff, when you think you’ve enough it’s time to practice more. All parts of a band must think alike. No weak links if you want to sound good live
Nice work, you really whipped them into shape!
The band simply need to understand that they are playing with each other for others. Some simple rhythmic awareness and pocket priority practice would fix. Of course this may take coaching and learning their respective instruments better. 😮
A competent bass player needs to be able to detach themselves 100% psychologically from what the guitar player is doing, and just play their own designated part. Once they start following the guitar player, the vibe falls apart quickly.