10 "Proper" Rules That Pro Guitarists BREAK!
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- "Do as I say, not as I do!" That seems to be the way it goes when it comes to guitar playing. :)
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“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.”
― Pablo Picasso
this quote is nice and all, but I have this terrible feeling of not knowing if a rule that im breaking is an essential one to be a pro, or something that I can easily break.
@@sinistrality7883 you can break any rule you want if you can pull it off in a way that works. Nothing about music is set in stone, if it sounds good, it is good.
@@rodimusmaximus3912 👌🏼
This is like what Bruce Lee said: 1. learn the rule 2. apply the rule 3. forget the rule.
theres no rules in music
“ Talk to guys like Kurt Cobain”
Me: Hi kurt
Kurt:
What does this mean. I think im stupid. Or i dont have enough brains to understand this
@@miahinenmias2641 Kurt doesn't have the brains to respond
Ruled Trendy Kurt Cobain suicide joke funny
@@rickys6376 ok
😂😂😂😂😂
Don’t hold your guitar too low
Tom Morello: You’re absolutely right
It's the age old dilemma. The lower it is, the cooler it looks, but the harder it is to play.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 until you get to like...crab core...then it just looks stupid lol
Slash: Ok boomer
@@djjazzyjeff1232 i find more comfortable playing a Power strap
How low can you play?
Slash: Yes
About the thumb over the neck: "But everybody breaks that rule."
Me: *laughs nervously in small stubby hands*
I have small hands and I can do it. I have to wear womens gloves (gardening gloves or rubber cleaning gloves etc. I hate shaking hands with guys because my hands are so much smaller. It has no affect on my guitar playing. I was the best in my school. Anyone I teach that says they cant reach, I can just say "well how come I can reach then?"
Hendrix
@@NowhereMan7 Alright, good luck playing all Hendrix songs properly.
I have big hands and I don't do it.
as a 4 foot 11 female with midget hands. even i can do it. its just hand placement im sure?
ive also been playing piano for 20 years and i just realised that certain stretches are sooooo much easier than they used to be.
Whatever john frusciante does, even thought it might be wrong, is right
Eric O. His modern trash music is wrong
I used to be his biggest fan but after The Empyrean his stuff just isn’t good anymore.
@@Walamonga1313 his newer electronic stuff is a lot better than pbx and letur lefr. his best electronic stuff is renoise tracks
@@Walamonga1313 sure it sounds trash but imo, EDM helped John experiment more about what music can do because in an interview, he said music can be simple and can be complex
@@mamamo5790 aaand he is back on RHCP
It's also worth mentioning that this "all you need is a little pressure" rule is really just an electric guitar thing.
I started on a mid to low tier Yamaha acoustic and my calluses could finger jab through brick.
Finger Poke of Doom?
It's funny, I experienced the exact same thing but the other way around. I'm an acoustic guitar player, always have been. If I wanted to learn a metal song I learned how to play it on acoustic. Then I went to Guitar Center one time and instead of going to the acoustic room I decided to pick up an electric guitar and brought it over to the pedal board to put some distortion on it. After messing around with the pedals and finally figuring out how to use the Boss MT-2 pedal I played Gasoline by Seether and was amazed with how little effort it took. Riot by Three Days Grace was always a challenge for me to play especially with the palm muting but when I tried playing it on an electric guitar it felt like a joke.
@@ScoCoda Just has to do with the fact that acoustic guitars rely on reverbation and actual vibration of strings to sound, while electrics just use pickup to retrieve data from tiny vinsy stings to then amplify it, and this difference obviously helps develop strentgh and stamina in hands, if you're more of an acoustic player
hahahah cute. bricks huh? Try playing a bass guitar using Steve Harris custom bass strings. the gauge on those goes like this; .50, .75, .95, .110. (regular bass strings go .45, .65, .80 .105) those suckers got a lot of extra tension from their thickness/ when i play a regular guitar it feels super easy to play in comparison (aside from the fact i'm used to the 4 stringer not the guitar)
Remo: Unamped And Dangerous
When I took music theory at Auburn. They told me a bunch of rules and then said : "These aren't rules, they're simply how it's been done in the past. Think of them as suggestions. Play what you feel."
Not too hard though, mind the tendonitis
Gotta know the rules before you can break them
So it’s like on pirates of the Caribbean, more guidelines than rules lol
You can break the rules, but you can never break tendonitis. xP
It’s not even that, it’s more just a way to understand what works in music. It’s a toolbox for analysis and composition.
I don’t have to worry about playing a slightly out of tune guitar, I play a Les Paul so the G is never in tune 😂😂
Nice one
But do you play authentic? 🤔
Same with my SG
I'm a metal head. Metal is not right if it's clinically in tune.
Lol yup my sg used to do that
Lubricate the nut
The forbidden technique, forgive me guitar sensei **0-3-5*
Rudy Ayoub hahahah
lmao
I'd rather hear SOTW than hear Iron Man get butchered
TOODAAYYYY IS GONNA BE THE DAY...
Wait, wrong forbidden song.
You’re like the less annoying version of Music is win. Great lessons,straight to the point,and not making awkward jokes
If you don't think I make awkward jokes you should hear my podcast. haha.
I don’t mind a good awkward joke now and then but I prefer your lessons lol
Idk about being better the music is win he has personality. This dude is like dry toast, great playing and very smart just need to step up that personality my dude. Find myself never finishing a video keep trying just can’t do it
@@skiesburngrey I actually quite like this guy's personality. He's pretty chill and is comfortable being himself without overacting or anything. It makes the videos easy to watch. Don't get me wrong Music is Win is great, but he can be a little to intense for my tastes sometimes.
@@skiesburngrey I prefer the "dry toast" personality. I've never been able to finish a video by "Music is Win". He seems to try a little too hard.
I have a kinda interesting story about breaking the rules. I had to have surgery on my left index finger. And since then, that finger bends, but not the way it’s supposed to. I was actually really worried I’d never be able to play music again. But to make a long story short, I had to throw out the correct way to curl your fingers, and teach myself new ways to fret the chords and note patterns I needed to do. And now I’m actually a better guitarist than I was before surgery. Because of how determined I was to be able to play again, I practiced so much, learned so many new songs. And before I knew it I was comparing recordings from before and after surgery having a hard time believing how much better my playing is now.
I broke my left pinky and had a similar experience. Now when I play major bar chords I have to make a 7 shape then add the pinky or just not play the low e and make a Beatles style 5 string chord.
"If you talk to Kurt Cobain... back when he was alive" 🤔
I talked to him yesterday.. yeah. He was lifeless
Adventure Guide OOP
I talked to him recently, his head's all over the place.
jack's low budget fun hour underrated comment holy fuck😂😂😂😂😂
If you want to play live, ALWAYS PRACTICE WHILE STANDING; DO NOT SIT. Your muscle memory will be slightly off.
Its so much harder somehow x) But yes, playing standing more often will make it way easier with time!
Clay Page Not only muscle memory, it’s straight up uncomfortable depending on guitar shape and weight though
Tell the audience your feet hurt and they need to fuck off lol
Makes sense. Also once you play in a live setting your guitar won't be strapped up to your tits.
It doesn't hurt to make sure that your gym time has enough of a workout for your shoulders, chest, abs, and back.
The posture one is soooo important. I have severely jacked my scapula up playing a big body acoustic in crazy long sessions in the studio. It has altered my life for the past 5 years. I wish i wouldve played with perfect posture in sessions especially.
Every video I have seen of me , I look like a junkie , bent over , shooting up .
@@IETCHX69 It means you feel it bro
Serious suggestion....hot yoga has been like a magic cure for my shoulder injuries. I'm the only 240 pound dude in yoga class, and I look like a miserable total mess during class....but I don't care. There is something about the heat and stretching that works, and nothing else as worked.
@@erxvlog had back spasms before, hot yoga only thing that helped me
As soon as you said the thing about guitarists keeping their guitars too low I thought of James and said “his guitar literally almost touches his knees” lmao
You really need to check out the bassist of church of misery.
It's because he has gorilla arms.
Billie joe armstrong??
I thought of Slash.
I thought of Robert Trujillo. His bass strap must be at the maximum length!
“only use the smallest motion for picking”
*cries in johnny greenwood*
Lock the arm and just go past the strings lol, from the shoulder
Literally slap the guitar. Like not even the bass kind of slap, just smack it
man the bassist from nirvana is the king of low strap guitar
Krist Novoselic
@@MrGeneralCheeto no the bassists name is nirvana
@Xavi Galarza and he is a fcking giant
He doesn't use shapes on his bass lines and most of them are fairly easy to play so you can kind of understand how he manages to play with a strap that low
bassist from pantera too
Thinking in fret numbers is super helpful when you play in drop tuning. Because some will refer to the note in standard tuning, some to what the note is in drop tuning and it all gets confusing. So just referring to the fret number avoids confusion
My back hurts just from thinking of rule #10
Johnny from Radiohead ? He could tie his fucking shoes during the average song .
@@IETCHX69 Does he really have special shoes for fucking?
Vic Toza yeah they’re called crocs
Learning "The Rules" with anything (guitar, writing, driving) is to instill "good habits" and foundation. So when you "break" the rules it's a controlled skid so to speak. As oppose to sloppy ignorance.
Also the thumb hooked over the top is for blue players to use/slide the the E as a constant beat whilst keeping their 4 fingers playing a separate riff too! Jimmy was blues trained. [See Tush by ZZ Top]
I remember the first lesson I had with my guitar teacher, he removed the shitty tremolo bar from my starter RG and threw it in the trash lmao.
One of my mentors statements was "In art or music there are no rules just tools, if you know how to use the tools you can use them however you damn well please"
I read an interview with Paul McCartney a long time ago where he talked about how he and John always liked what he called "fairground" sound when they played, by which he meant that the guitars were not always perfectly in tune. It added something.
What it adds is usually slop and lack of professionalism, plus it sounds horrible.
These rules are simply guidelines to help anyone be an even better player, and when you are an even better player, you too can break these rules! As someone once said, Rules are meant to be broken, but you need to know what the rules are before you can break them!
They're not even really guidelines for the average player. They're vestiges of people trying to carry Classical guitar techniques into more modern genres. If you're trying to imitate a classical guitar style, then these rules are what you should follow. But if you want to play rock or metal, or any other more modern genre, typically these rules don't really apply.
For example, low hanging guitars will force the picking arm into a relaxed position, which aids someone like Hetfield that downpicks a lot. Having the thumb over the neck creates a more stable fulcrum point to aid in proper intonation bends, as well as the potential to fret a bottom string while simultaneously playing higher strings. On top of pretty much everything else he already stated in the video.
People just haven't separated what techniques are good for what style in their teaching as of yet. That's why these are considered "rules" rather than just different techniques.
@@royalcat10 Ahh that is very true my man. Thank ye for the insight and perspective indeed
Not just what the rules are, but more importantly you need to know *what they're there for* in order to know if and when it's a good idea for you to break them!
Like the podcasts but its good to see your face again.
John Frusciante doesn't play out of tune but utilizes true temperament tuning.
Exactly, he totally missed the point here
Good point. Also, I doubt he can play guitar at all. All he does is talking. Don't anyone find it weird that you never see him play real stuff like hendrix solos or slash or srv or page ..... ?!!!!!!
@@yannbourbon1076 there's more to guitar and more interesting guitarists than hendrix, slash and page
yann bourbon dude shut up
Ya but I mean he keeps playing third eye blind...
James hetfield:I use the strap to low man.
Krist novoselic:Hold my beer mr hetfield, hold my beer.
Ben Shepherd: f*cking pussies
Krist Novoselic is 6'6'' with his hands longer than giraffe's neck. A genetic freak.
Robert Trujillo hold my beers
You guys are bringing in bass players, they don't count. Bass is meant to be held a lot lower, so you can get better right hand finger action going, but guitar is different because we use picks (usually).
James Hetfield is an example of how to play and hold a guitar all wrong. But be very successful at it.
I think the biggest thing for me to overcome & it's not a rule as much as a "guitar Legend". The more theory I learn the less feeling my playing will have... after 30 years of playing, I realize it's just an excuse made up by either lazy or scared musicians. I wish someone would of smacked me 20 years ago & told me to "wake up" & get to learning. Now i work 3 times as hard, but my fingers just don't work like they use to... great video, take it easy
Biology is Destiny
Seems to me it's chemistry ♫
I know people like to get all bent out of shape when someone corrects them on anything, but it's "would have". You're phonetically spelling out the contraction "would've". Flame on.
I learned to play guitar *using* music theory.
...and Metallica.
@@stankfanger1366: That's not correct. "Would have", in this context, refers to the conditional word "would", the condition being "the more music theory I learn". "Would have", in the contractible sense, isn't the proper end to a sentence.
There's a Trivium song about Rule #2. The title is : "Push Harder on the Strings of your Guitar"
... or something like that, maybe.
Pull harder on the strings of your martyr lol
I think that was the purpose of the "or something like that" part of the comment. Lol
Low guitar... After a while I start to play it like a double bass
@@ronin-mk4me Joke flew over your head
boat rudder strange mountain
sure jimi hendrix can wait to hear about those 10 rules
As a beginner guitar player this video taught me a lot! But I’ve been a drummer for over 7 years and I would love to have a video just like this but for the drums. I would love to see if I break any “rules”!
Rule 1: Never ride on a crash cymbal.
Rule 2: Sit up straight with proper posture.
Rule 3: Angle your drums and cymbals toward you, don’t set them up flat.
Rule 4: Don’t bury the beater into your bass drum head.
Rule 5: Don’t allow stick tips to come back past twelve o’clock.
Rule 6: Don’t leave the stick tip on the snare head after a down stroke.
Rule 7: Tune your tom intervals to 3rds or 4ths.
Rule 8: Don’t grip the stick all the way back at the butt end.
Rule 9: Jazz is played with 7As.
Rule 10: Replace your heads as soon as they get worn or dimpled.
My Guitarteacher, when its strumming, always shout' PLAY LOUDER HIT THE STRING YOU PLAY AGAINST A FN DRUMKIT HARDER HIT EM" yeah old times.
If I started taking guitar lessons, I would probably piss the teacher off so much with all of my improper techniques xD
Me too my friend
Same but I’d rather be self taught
@@thedude2122 he says while watching teachers on CZcams...
@@danglyding-dongs3403 not the same...even if you watch a couple videos on techniques on CZcams it doesn’t derail you as much as a teacher holding you back with un-bendable rules...I’d rather pick and choose what I learn so it’s actually useful to my style of playing and the kind of music I make than learning ALL techniques that i won’t actually use...
The out-of-tune playing thing clicked for me when I started trying to learn how to make electronic music. When you're trying to build a synth patch, its common practice to layer several waves on top of each other and de-tuning them slightly to fill more space. If you do it right it doesn't sound out of tune, it just sounds much more rich.
Picking only the strings you're fretting was actually taught as a mistake to me. Keeping your hand swinging and muting strings you don't want to hit helps you keep time, dead notes add attack to your playing, and learning to mute properly makes it almost impossible to play a wrong note (you either miss a note or play it, but rarely a wrong open string or something).
5:55 oh man , that one's a classic for me. I do a lot of finger picking acoustic, and the thumb is an extra potential note! Its great when you're going from an low open E to a fretted A on the same string for example, but your fingers are already used up in a chord formation.
Eg. in powderfingers the day you come, the intro/verse has this regular 0h7----------7p0 throughout the riff, which I just my thumb for. It's a lot easier in that situation than using my index finger, even though it's free
Although I was wondering, can you eventually do a Greatest Gary Moore Techniques video? He's my favorite guitarist of all time!
🤘🏽🦁🤘🏽 gary moore! Yesss
@@mavrickkomasinski8893 Ahh definitely my man!
Yes yes yes please , i was about to comment that once i heard the intro
I'll vote for that ♫
*THIS!!!*
Yes! CZcams needs more videos like that. Every rule has a "but", but not every teacher mentions that.
It's funny, you mentioned the thumb over the top and I've always found it easier to form barre chords with it in the middle of the neck, but then you mentioned bends and I couldn't 'remember' what I do, so I picked up my guitar and it was funny to see that it's become completely automatic for my thumb to go over the top of the neck when I do bends, then it flicks right back.
Never realised I did it before you mentioned it.
Nice video, thanks for sharing.
james hetfield holding guitar the lowest
*enter korn and old sevendust*
Moustapha Balde Only people who don’t do solos use it low
he didnt say he was the lowest - he said its as low as you should probably go
Slash has his guitar also fkin low
nothing else mattress 😂
@@lucasschorle4329 the originator was Keith Richards.......his tele was below his knees
When you were talking about using minimal strumming on power chords, I knew you would use Pete Townsend as an example.
We meet again
i expected johnny greenwood's "lawnmower guitar" lol
I like John Cussacks videos. They’re always cool and casual but full of good information that’s really on-point. Nice job man.
Hi Mike, I was guilty of always anchoring my fingers on the guitar body. I tried the floating technique and it has improved my playing so much! Picking faster has become a lot easier for me now. Thank you!
Rule #7 my favorite band is the Cure. I had the hardest time playing along with their riffs. It wasn’t until recently I learned that he plays out of tune. Specifically his high e is flat. But it sounds good!
Ps I think the reason for that is the same idea behind what producers call “warmth”, or distortion. The out of tune notes add extra overtones, which fills in the space.
omfg i never though about shapes but now that u said it i cant stop...
I play with my thumb over a lot, but my excuse is different, because I play a lot of 6-string stuff on my 7-string and I use my thumb to mute the B string when I play open E (or sometimes just because of habit) ;)
The Height of the guitar really depends on your playing style. I've found myself putting the guitar relatively high, because with the "thumb always behind the fretboard" this is the most comfortable and "classical" position. When you're grabbin all around the neck, you will put strain on your wrist a lotin this position. Also I've found, as doing lots of prog and relatively wide stretches, having the guitar too low makes it impossible to do.
I've also got my guitar very high, so much that I had to put the strap on backwards cause otherwise the adjustment buckle would push down on my shoulder bone. It may not look as cool, but it works much better for me cuz if I put it as low as most people do, I find I'd have to overstretch my wrist and it gets fatiguing way too fast. I'm still a beginner, but well my teacher also says that these "rules" are more like suggestions/common practices, but whatever works for me is fine.
@@LRM12o8I agree I have no idea how people like James Hetfield play with their guitar at their hip level. I think my wrist would explode if I tried to play master of puppets at full speed with it that low.
Thx so much for making this video. Your tip about Fret hand muting has massively improved my playing!!
11:13 It's a whole other story with Bass a lot of them use the Bass as a shin guard
Haha for real. Tatsu Mikami from Church of Misery has his bass practically resting on the floor!
great advice to us rebel guitar/bass players, Dude. you’re still killing it
I have a tendency to just tremolo pick or hammer on and pull off like crazy when I do shred stuff. It sounds really bad clean but with a lot of distortion, delay, chorus, reverb, wah, or flanger, it sounds really awesome and I love that sound. This is one of those things where I was just lazy in learning everything perfect, and once I gave up and did my own thing I developed my own sound. Also I play with the strap lower, I hit all 6 strings when I strum or bend even if I don’t need too, I play with my thumb over the neck almost always, I move my arm really far when I strum, and I slouch all the time. I am a really bad guitar player in terms of technique...
If it sounds good, then you’re alright!
Except with the posture thing. That can fuck your back up dude
Chernobog I know, I try to stand up straight but it is hard once you get used to bending down.
I find so much of this to be so true! Thank you for such a quality lesson for free to everyone. Beautifully well done.
Thanks! This is the video I needed to see to get past a creative lull I've been stuck in for the last two weeks. I try blending pieces of different artists styles, and I usually break down that metaphorically to its simplistic and economic form, during that practice time for me, well I have big time ocd and I'll practice one technique for over 120 minutes, even longer if I am struggling with a facet of or an entire system of sayyy, EVH's Eruption solo. So much is going on with his style with things like pinch-harmonics with double stop tapping. He was a master of the 3 octave Superstrat and has been in contracts with a few highly revered guitar manufacturers. So, I can take a simple, boring song with a lot of repetitive riffs and if I time it right then I can be playing a Jack Johnsons Flake, but I take out a portion his song where there is less going and I stay in the time signature but spice it up with huge leaps between each note and creating tension and dissidents, when 2 harmonics played simultaneously are 1/2 to 1+1/2 harmonic steps from one another. Also messing with a harmonic patterns at least 5 minutes every time I play. The possibilties are literally infinite. Some days I'll be up all night and I justify that inwardly destructive methodology by refusing to put down my guitar until I get all the tricks I've learned like pinch - harmonics, one handed (left) harmonics, prebends, volume swells, using delay to match the bpm of a song, a sweep delay gives each note a frequency that goes through other similar frequencies. When I finally get a Floyd installed on my Jaguar or if my family chips in on a brand new Ibanez RG, with all the gadgets I want stock . Coming as the flagship for the manufacturer Ibanez has always been at the cutting edge of the most progressive guitars. I played a Steve Vai GEM model and it's amazing. All I know is that once I get done with school, everyday will be a happy one. Better to be mediocre at something you love and struggle financially but you make guitars now, so literally I'll be making toys for serious guitarists and kids who are capitalizing on their young flexible brains. I get happy just thinking about it. I'll build custom rigs, pickups and my own speaker cabinets, all 100% made in the USA! I'm done with this message, I have been rambling on like a manic depressive patient. ✌️💤
Is amazing how Ben Levin can bend the strings without breaking that rule. Underrated guitarist.
Some people bend strings like that but it always looks so uncomfortable and unnatural to me.
So like
What do u think ab synyster gate's guitar playing?
I think it's modern day buttrock.
IMO he’s too good for A7X
Cmon mike
He’s a beast
Svinjska Polutka god finally sane people
HI Mikey! Always learn a ton from your vids - Thx so much!
Learned on my own. And im kind of glad. I got to play my own style from the beginning. And i dont have to worry for peoples expectation and playing others style. Nice video
I had to unlearn anchoring everytime and got much smoother and faster. I still do it sometimes on certain licks tho.
EDIT: Also when James taught Kirk how to play a riff he didn’t even mention fret numbers, he said “the first starts on this one and then goes to that one” 😂
I make the mortal sin of playing bass with a pick. 😈🤘
If anyone gives you grief about it tell them to listen to Justin Chancellor or better yet have them go tell Justin that he's doing it wrong.
It’s fine because no one can hear your instrument
Its okay cause you already made the mortal sin of playing the bass :)
That's why the guy from Yes and Paul McCartney never got anywhere.
ahmed irfan lmao
I used to do that blues grip until I got a King V. Just the natural position a v shaped guitar sits in while playing sitting down really helped my playing and made it way easier for me to play with my thumb on the back of the neck.
Love the video! I think what it comes to is the difficulty of what's being played...most Rock with a few exceptions (shredder stuff, prog rock, etc) is pretty easy to play technically and doesn't require a high level of precision and in fact what often makes a great Rock guitarist is his/her ability to get that grime in there (from hitting non fretted strings, being slightly out of tune) while also entertaining the audience. If you're trying to play Bluegrass, Flamenco, or Bebop, good luck trying to execute cleanly without pristine technique.
The rule I break all the time: practice a lot instead of playing Destiny 2...
No shit, people are still playing destiny 2???
WaxP3 there are around 1 million players a day now
WaxP3 then new dlc claps man
Destiny 2 is making a come back! Glad to see so
Fuck yeahhhhhhhh!
Many times, a guitarist playing out of tune will do so to actually play IN tune more. Sounds like an oxymoron, right?
Listen to Scar Tissue. One of the strings is out of tune, but it’s actually more in tune for the two particular notes that John plays in the intro. I don’t understand the music theory behind this, but that’s what I’ve been told and perceived and tested.
Do you know Pauld Davids?
He has a youtube channel where he talks exactly about that.. It's because the frets doesn't exactly have the perfect freqency.. There are strange guitars out there with spagetti-like frets where the tones fit but with straight frets, john needed to "outtune" that one string, so it fits on that fret but would be out of tune if played open..
Ah, just look Paul Davids video haha
@ "The-Art-of-Guitar," first of all, thanks for presenting this, especially for newer guitarists who often experience a disparity between guitar lessons and their favorite rock stars (or whatever type of music they love)! i have really enjoyed the videos that i have come across from you! however, i have one comment to add, and i will clarify that this is just my personal opinion. strapping your guitar on in a high possition looks goofy, most of us guitar players will agree, but when it comes to freedom of fingering, high and angled (like the beatles or tom morello) makes it so much easier to play. no, it doesnt look cool, but rock guitarist are all about rebellion right? so be rebelliously practical, and try straping your guitar on in a high and angled possition and mix a little tom morello with robert fripp: tapping and stretching and general fingering will feel easier. no, you wont look like most of your "guitar heros." (unless they are the beatles or fripp or morello etc) but playing will be easier and make more sense. from there, adjust lower if it works for you until you feel comfortable. this is the advice from a random guitar player on the internet. have fun! (think classical guitar style, start from there, and then work on making it cooler or more relevant to your playing style and favored type of music, while still keeping mechanical playability in mind. a balance between these ideas and your physical stature will work best for you if you can find it, comfortably. keep in mind people like steve vai and paul gilbert are very tall and have long fingers. if you are average hight you may need your standard scale guitars at a higher and tighter angle. then again, some people may be comfortable with their guitars very low but keep in mind about restricting your ability to play, etc.
Good stuff. Thanks for putting this out there
You have
Fender Strat
SG Gibson
Gibson Les Paul Custom
Jackson
Wow!
It's a gibson sg. What are you trying to get a copyright?
Bit strange that he talks about tuning yet plays a strat. Unless it's a hardtail, it ain't staying in tune past the first chord.
No Tele. Unsubbed
Mr worldwide
Hendrix had his thumb over the neck because he liked to play the 6th string with it
You have to if you want to play that Merle Travis/Chet Atkins style as well
brian may also
I've always done it. Never once has anyone ever mentioned it.
I've always done it makes a lot of sense if you think about it
CodyTheDoggo Much easier to create unique chord voicings or even improvise over chords when your thumb is over the neck in a lot of cases. However, really all depends on how big your hands are and what type of guitar you play (do Hendrix shit with a classical guitar and you’re gonna get smacked and your thumb will dislocate)
Associate the shapes with the quality of note sounds to make the big transition with your total understanding of the chords to being at more comfortable level. With understanding the quality of sound you wont associate the shape as much as the sound. And when u look at ur individual fingers where you start on the chord will point out the inversions. I remember when I took a year at Berklee's Online program, I had to learn all the basics again but that helped me get way more familiar with the chords and get away from just looking at the chord shape and saying oh thats this chord. I could now understand at what context the chords and their inversions would sound better than just playing whater. It makes moving around the fretboard more seemless with many progressions too when you understand that in the span of 5 fretts there are all the chords and their inversions to make for proper harmonic movements and function. From a point of view of compositioning it feels smoother and you can do a lot of cool melodic movement within this kind of playing. Music Theory/Harmonic Function in conjecture with learning all the chords and inversions is well worth understanding and learning about all at the same time too.
Great and nuanced lesson man, you are quite knowledgeable...Appreciation!
The thumb over the top... I could write a whole song about it! My teachers told me to not do it every single lesson and I broke the rule every single lesson until they accepted it ;D
When I saw the video, I immediately thought of not putting the thumb on the back of the neck. I rarely play properly in this way.
Such a good video, I’m not good but cause I learned before CZcams existed all these you just pick up along the way, great stuff .
Be careful about tuning by ear if you have a Floyd unless you’re confident that it’s really easy to be relatively in tune but the strings are overall a quarter to half step off because your reference string changed while you were tuning the other strings. I agree that it’s important to be able to tune by ear though. With Floating bridges just be aware of that issue. You’ll want to reference the other string just to verify it’s not drifting.
Slash is the ultimate example of the lowest you should hold a guitar dude.
I beg to differ id say daron malakian in 2002 or paul grey in 1999
Billie Joe Armstrong
Am I the only one who finds it literally impossible to play guitar while standing up? Like I only find it comfortable when I sit down on my couch
Try setting your guitar position at the same height it is for you when you sit down and play then everything is roughly in the same place as when you sit. Might help :)
Thanks for answering the low-strap and thumb over the neck question. I'm a classical guitar player (now trying to learn electric) and every teacher I've had has had those two things as a cardinal rule not to be broken.
Ur awesome bro. I enjoy ur tutorials. Thank you. Keep rocking much respect
It's so funny. I'm self taught and I didn't even know most of these were rules. Probably doesnt need to be said that I break most of these lol
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That also has a much better tone than the minimal strumming movement though. Like 10x better. Larger strumming movement is about more than looking cool, it's about giving a part a full and lively sound.
Except for the windmill strumming, that's about looking cool.
TheZombieJC I thought so too. His simple riff seemed to come alive when he exaggerated his motion.
the "thumb anchored in the back of the neck" is sooo me. I learned with a classical guitar teacher. it was one of the first habits I picked up.
Many years later and having played in rock bands and in records for years, I still do this & never taught myself how to do the "hook thumb over the neck" thing.
the beauty of imperfect tuning reminds of when i was reading about Hammond the man when he designed the Hammond organ, he disliked the clean sounds sounded flat from his tonewheel invention. Learnt about multiple harmonics in the vibration of the notes from imperfections are the key to the "tone" created. Due to this the Hammond organs tones are stacked with 7 harmonic tone wheels generally used with each note press. Of course the modern Hammond doesnt use the magical tonewheels anymore, but the theory was cemented in that concept long ago :)
Ween has a song called "The Golden Eel", where the first part out the solo is eerily out of tune. They must have done it on purpose, but it sounds crazy.
Billy Joe Armstrong disagrees with #3
Well, for a better explanation of the "out of tune" rule, sometimes it's more a thing about temperament. If you tune by ear then you have a skewed tuning that isn't quite equal temperament (the standard of tuning we use) and ear tuned will likely be more in tune with some harmonics. It's kinda wonky though because guitar necks are built for equal temperament.
Man, I absolutly love your videos, I learned lot of you 😉
My first guitar teacher: "Sit up straight, don't slouch, don't look at your hands."
Me: "I have Ankylosing Spondylitis (same shit Mick Mars has). My neck and spine are literally fused in this posture."
My first guitar teacher: "Well, try."
My second guitar teacher (the following week): "Hi, welcome to Ashland. Can I help you?"
Did you use this same excuse with bad sat scores?
Beavis and butthead moment: you said strap on. 😂😂😂
Great video man. Glad I found your channel.
Nice vid, Mike! I love #7! That slight tremolo affect of slightly outta tune sounds awsum! #8 is classic SRV style. Cold Shot is great example. Stevie used that left thumb to bass the 6th string and simultaneously picked the octave while muting the open strings.
You must be a great teacher, it's good to know you teach people
10 was funny... "Im sure over time it can cause some back problems"
*angus young plays guitar for 60 years straight*
Me: i told u he wasnt human!
It helps tho when you over medicate.
Bruh he didn’t play it for 60 years straight, he was curved all the time
Lowest straps I can think of, anybody got any others?
5. Slash
4. Billie Joe
3. Steve Clark
2. Jimmy Page
1. Krist Novoselic
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Slashs strap is stupid low, he always looks like he try a take a dump standing up
Billy Joe Armstrong.
Nice message, learn the rules and learn to break them later! That applies to so many things in life!
On detuning, the most common trick seems to be specifically leaving the B string a little bit flat so that chords built off the C shape sound more in tune.
I've been playing guitar for 12 years now, and to this day I still cringe at the feeling of my fingernails popping off every time I bend a note.
I’m a drummer. Once when I was young I went to choke a cymbal and it went perfectly in my thumb nail and lifted it off my thumb.
Hurt like a bitch.
I'm a mostly self taught guitarist and I think that's why the strings go over my fingernails. It's how I play, when I see anyone else play they don't do that. Gotta ask my dad about that
Hey cut your nails man, short nails work best
Megadeth has songs you NEED your thumb for...lol...even on the top e-string.
Steve Clark (RIP) of Def Leppard had his guitar way way low.
8:10 i LOVE this. with the proper distortion it sounds better than it would if it was in tune
Good points. I discovered that you don't want to focus too much on detail when playing a fast lick. A teacher may break it down, but in reality it can go by so fast you can't focus on every little detail. Listen to it, watch someone good cover it on CZcams. You want it to sound like the artist not simply "try to play it right." I was stuck on that last lick in Stairway to Heaven solo for a long time until I saw how someone else did it in a cover. It's all about speed. I played it really slow for about a year, trying to get it exactly as I was taught. lol
who needs a strap ?......when i play live , i rest my guitar on my toes...
Stand on a stepladder with the guitar on the floor. That'll be so cool that even 90 year old women will throw panties.
Then looking stupid tripping over it going head first into the crowd
Psh. I pay a dude to hold it for me while I play it.
What a rookie... I leave mine on the wall at Sweetwater and stand on stage throwing picks at it.
ognilouD driB lamesauce i put my guitar inf AU away from me. then throw picks at it from inf au away
It really annoys me how the Beatles used to have their guitars really high
If you had just said, "it really annoys me how the Beatles..." And just cut off there id give you two likes rather than one.
>laughs in Dave Matthews
THAT is why you should practice while standing & not sitting down...
If you watch their progression as a live band, their guitars gradually got lower & lower as they got used to performing live.
The Beatles’ music has never appealed to me
@@ethanpederson Cool anecdote.
Very nice as always
Sonny Landreth holds his guitar really high. One of my favorite guitar players. Makes alot of sense, especially with his slide style.