Fixing A Troy-Bilt Mower That's Leaking Gasoline And Even Oil
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Thanks for watching. This mower was leaking not only gasoline but also oil so we're going to try and fix it. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
LOVE how you quickly give a rundown of everything you're doing and keep it moving! For a novice like me, we need only watch again if it's new info. In some videos, it takes forever to watch while they take something apart, continuously talking about anything and everything. Way to keep straight to the task at hand! Thank you!!
no problem and thank you for watching
Love how you clean everything up and take pride in your work! These videos are extremely relaxing 😌 after a long day at work!! Thanks
thank you I appreciate that
Definitely did not spend to much money to repair this mower. It looks very good and you had some therapy while doing the repairs. Great job as usual. Thanks for the videos.
no problem and thank you!
I bought a brand new generator a few years ago. I took it out of the box and assembled it, so I knew no one else had used it. When I filled it with gas it poured gas all out the air filter. I pulled the carb and it was filthy. Someone had left ethanol fuel in it at the factory. It was really gummed up. I cleaned the carb and have had no recurring problems. After it ran for a while it stopped making power. I pulled the cover on the generator and found that the wires connecting the generator to the unit were loose. I cleaned the terminals and putting Locktite and lock washers on the terminals I cranked it back up and it ran perfectly and produced power. I have had no recurring problems with this generator, but I crank it up periodically and check its output with my Kill Watt meter. I use nothing but premium non ethanol gas plus stabilizer in all of my outdoor power equipment.
wow that generator did NOT want to cooperate!
Only you can answer if this mower was worth the $$ and effort to fix. The parts cost was minimal, so it's all down to how you value your time. When I do these DIY fixes I don't factor in the cost of my time, just parts cost and probability of success. I've been using a mower for years that was a throwaway picked up off of the curb and fixed in a few hours. Every time I use it I smile....
well put and you are correct!
I've been watching this channel for years, your videos are always really satisfying and informative. Keep up the good work:)
thank you I will
She's a Leaker !!
❤️🏁🏴☠️
Wonder if it might need a new set of piston rings after seeing all that blue smoke shooting out of the exhaust.
Nah its prob from being upside down seeing how it easy it started i doubt its the rings
the smoke was from the muffler having oil in it.
correct
Just picked up two brand new Troy built mowers at tractor supply. Retail 459.00 for 60 bucks a piece. Both blowing oil. I would assume gasket failure. One was used about an hour and the other not at all. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for sharing and good luck with them
I'm.glad you cleaned the oily scum out of the bottom of that sump my goodness was that awful and what I do is just rtv the sump I don't bother with a gasket, I've been doing it for a long time. You have to choose the oil resistant rtv in a tube for it to last. You did not waste time at all. Considering new mowers are still 500.00 and up. Absolutely slaughtering the American homeowner paycheck
thank you and yes the paper gasket could have easily been replaced with some gasket maker instead! And yes the price for a mower is straight highway robbery
Great video! Great explanation!
Thank you!
Nice fix spotting that issue with the sump gasket on engine
thanks I appreciate it.
Good job
thank you
nice job!
thanks
As long as you can make a profit.
And enjoy what your doing.
well said
I do normally just replace the carb if it is having issues. I have never had one that I couldn't clean up and get running, but sometime it takes putting it on and taking it off several times, which isn't really worth my time. I always keep 2 types of carbs in stock; The old Briggs quantum carb (the manually primed one, with the airbox as I convert the auto choke ones to primer start), and a briggs "classic" carb (the plastic one that sits on the tank). Those are mainly what I deal with as I only fix things up for myself, or to sell and don't deal with repairing people's equipment.
The only carbs I do bother working on are the plastic float bowl style carbs they use now. I don't like those carbs or the engine they go on, because they seem to have frequent issues, but the one thing I will say is that they are easy to clean out. You just pop the jets out, run a wire through them and they are normally good to go.
nice selection of carbs, I might have to do that as well.
Good video !
Thanks!
Great job, once again! Whether or not it's worth it depends on the context. Some people have more time than money, whereas others have more money than time. If you work another job where you get paid substantially more, then wasting time on fixing this mower wouldn't be financially worth it. Conversely, if you're retired or work part time and this is just a therapeutic hobby with some extra income, then it's definitely worth it.
you make a very good point
I have 2 of them both are a 2011 model just like that one a new carb is 20 dollars on Amazon I fix up push mowers and sell them I have been doing this for 33 years now
very nice work!
I have that series engine (8.75 vs your 7.75; the 8.75 actually has an oil filter) on a curb picked John Deere. I like it; believe it was an earlier entry for Briggs into OHV during a time when flat head Quantums ruled. Briggs called it the "Professional" series. My JD was made in 2011 as was your TB, according to the TB manual date. I rescued mine in '17, tweaked it a bit (not much $) & it has been mowing for what is now my 7th year. Worth the time IMO.
wow very nice and thank you for the information
Another well done vid!
I would have used permatex ultra black gasket maker in place of that super thin paper gasket.
Its too bad carb bowl seals are hard to find as those those go bad quite often. Either way, this will be a nice mower when you are done.
I know right, the carb replacement makes more sense to me.
I use compressed air blown through gas inlet to get those types of seats out, easy.
unfortunately that doesn't always work. I think it's worked twice for me out of maybe 20 times. After that I don't bother with air anymore.
I spent a lot more than that on the electric start and it was the BEAM that broke the camels back and everything else. I was trying to save a few bucks but ending up spending a LOT more but got what was needed, which is the end result we all want. Just have to let your own situation be your guide. Blessings
well said and you are correct
@@HomeGaragechannel I try.
Should be able to get good money for this one so lucky it was just a gasket ! I think it was worth the time .
you are correct!
I don't think you spent too much money on this mower. As far as being worth your time, that's a personal thing. If you have an assembly line, time efficiency mentality, it would not be worth it. (I have a friend like that and the way I work bugs the crap out of him.)
The thought that entered my mind as this video started was "It's just cool to be able to do things like this". If I never sell anything, it's just cool, I enjoy it, and I could be spending my time and money on much worse things.
Some guys spend their extra money on beer and chips, I spend mine on tools and parts. Their garage has chairs and a huge TV, my garage has . . . well, let's just say that I can walk from one end to the other, somewhat safely most of the time. (It's a work in progress). The guy with the huge TV came over and made the comment that I sure had a lot of tools and that he needed to borrow my . . . I answered him by saying "I don't spend money on beer, wine and chips. To me, coffee tastes better, tools last longer, and could I borrow your toothbrush?" . . . . The blank look in return was priceless. I helped him out but I dion't lend out tools. (That is an "Earned Privilege" that very few have earned.)
Your time. Doing the repairs for therapeutic reasons is a whole lot cheaper than going to a psychologist. And if you get paid for it . . . That's the Gravy. Even if you sell an item for what may seem like a loss, you can still be way ahead where it counts.
yes it is, I enjoy it a lot and I find very relaxing. Thank you for the comment!
Besides one model number this is my mower that I use weekly. I got it for free on the curb.. which I may have mentioned before. I have nothing bad to say about it and really like the rear wheel self propel. I don't need it but do they sell that fuel line or do they just turn it 180 degrees without getting crimped? After watching you take off the plastic to get the grass out, that's something I need to do. My occasional problem though is the rear wheels freeze up when pulling it backwards. Saving this video.. Thanks, Good job.
thank you and yes this is a pretty good mower, I'd keep it but I don't need it.
I recently bought a mower for $400 it’s a Exmart 26” commercial grade push mower it ran good when at the guys house but when I got it home the recoil wouldn’t turn the engine. I though the engine had been locked up but when I told the guy that I only started it up at his house he called me a liar. I fixed the recoil problem but then the gas started coming out the muffler so I send him a video and he starts harassing me (I’m only 16) the reason I talk to you about this is because it just shocked me and how someone you meet up with can be so cold hearted. And yes I got police involved.
Hang in there. You've got a lot to learn. If it had a gas shut off valve, it should have been turned off prior to transporting. Most people don't know this. These machines [all of them] aren't made as well as the older ones. With trial and error, you can have a good machine. Good luck !!!!!
wow, that's tough to hear you're going thru with that situation. He probably thinks he can push you around because of your age?
sorry your having to go thru this issue.
@@HomeGaragechannel Ya I was talking with one of the officers apparently they know him and have to deal with him every now and again. Should have seen his yard it was filled to the brim with push mowers, zero turns, engines, weedeaters all kinds of havoc but at the end of the day I think I got a really good deal for the price I had to pay for it. That Exmart push mowers usually go for $600 bucks so if I ever wanna sell it I can easily make my money back. Keep up the hard work🙏
@@georgepruitt637 There is a fuel shut off valve! I’ll shut it off when I’m driving to different properties. Thanks George🙏
I think it would be worth it.fix it, get it back on the grass You make some money And the land fill Don't get the Lawn mower Thank you for the video
great idea, thank you!
No, I don’t think you spent too much time or money on this machine. Since it was free and because you are running a “hobby” business, I think this machine was just enough of a challenge to repair to make it interesting and fun for you to work on while still giving you plenty of room to make some money on selling it. I have probably spent too much time and, on a few rare occasions, slightly too much money bring machines back to life. In most cases, however, I was doing the work on my own equipment or family’s machines, so the time invested was not a consideration at all and a few extra dollars on parts was still far cheaper than a new or good running used machine. I’d rather spend my time and effort “wrenching” on an existing machine at home than driving around looking for new or good used equipment to purchase.
thank you!
In my shop, that would have been around $150 all in, but I'd certainly be in no hurry to get it done, it would be a "make work project" that'd I'd have a tech do when their list of work orders was empty.. At a dealer, that'd be 3 times the cost, if not more, especially since they only sell you oem parts. I'd opt for an Amazon carb for $20, and grab a donor recoil assembly from the scrap pile. But I can tell you why most likely the crankcase gasket blew, likely someone tipped it over so as to flood the breather with oil, which causes the breather not to do its job, thus causing pressure within the crankcase. This can sometimes blow out top or bottom seals as well, just like overfilling the oil. Regardless, yes, I think you spent too much time on this project, but if you are doing it as a hobby, then that is fine. In a shop, time is $$$ and the minute you need to crack a case open, you are losing cash. Back in the 90's we'd always crack into the cases, because parts and new engines were super expensive, so it made sense. Hell, we even used to do valve guide insert installs on L-head engines, if you could imagine, and still turn a profit. Not these days, it's more of a "when in doubt, throw it out" attitude. On this mower, the crankcase gasket is not that big of a deal and I think I personally would have done it on the back burner. Not a big profit job, but here is the thing: You might make a little money, the customer saves a little money, but in the long run, you have that customer coming back to you in the future. Nothing says $0.00 like a customer who never comes back.
thank you chiming in on this one I appreciate it.
What sprayer do you use and cleaner thanks to clean
I use a Degreaser From Harbor Freight, don't worry they only have the one.
Hey , I got a Troy bilt weed eater it starts buts dies when you hit the throttle , lots of smoke coming out from the exhaust amd it’s really wet around the air filter area .
sure thing, the carb is leaking a bit and it's having an issue delivering enough fuel when you squeeze the throttle. I'd replace the carb since it takes the guess work out.
@@HomeGaragechannel ok thanks so much
Hey bro, what's up? This was an interesting project. Spending $25 to get this mower running properly again wasn't a bad investment at all. It started up just great and it sounded great except for the screeching sound at the end and also the smoke but I'm sure that those are minor issues that can be sorted out in a giffy.
you are correct I get it sorted out in the next video
@@HomeGaragechannel nice. Looking forward for your next video bro👍
Use fourm a gasket. Or Indian head gasket seal
Hello how did you fix that rattle noise I’m having the same problem
wow thank you for reminding me, I did fix it, but I forgot to produce a video showing the fix. I'll have to make it right now. To answer your question yes I did fix it. you can either , release the rope from the guide, or you move your guide, abut 7-8" further down do the handle. As the handle bar moves
it keeps pulling out the pawls and those are what's making the noise.
Hey I have a mower that I’ve been trying to get to run for the past 2 days. I cleaned the carb, changed gas and it finally started. But after 30 seconds it backfired from the muffler loud with actually flames 3 times then shut off. I ran it again and it did the same thing. Do you know what that could be?
sure, the carb is the issue, I know you cleaned it but I suspect it's not working like it should. But getting a cheap replacement should get it working again.
Hey new viewer and subscriber here. I just noticed you put the blade stiffer on upside down. That’s the little diamond shaped plate on the bottom of the blade.
no I put it on the right way with the dimples facing the blade. This one just looks like that from the backside. Thanks for looking out for me though.
My bad. I should’ve kept my mouth shut lol. Thanks for being kind about it!
it's not a problem and thanks for watching, your attention to detail is pretty awesome
Hello, why are needle seats different colors and does this matter or can you use any colored seat? Great videos, thank you.
thanks, from what I can tell needle seats for almost carbs are a "reddish" color even from the aftermarket. I would never buy one that was any other color. So are they different if it's different color, my guess would be Yes.
That comes that are white
@HomeGaragechannel Hey there! I've recently bought a fairly new Cub Cadet mower, but the seller left the oil in it and the fool delviery guy turned the box upside down which had the mower in it.. Because of this when I first started it up, it was smoking pretty bad for a minute or two, but then that went away thankfully.. Since then I have mowed with it a couple of times now, but it doesn't seem to run smoothly: every couple of seconds it gives a puff from the muffler and it just doesn't sound right. I've checked the spark plug and tested it with a new one but that wasn't it and I also checked the air filter but it ran just as bad without it.. Any idea how to solve this?
unfortunately without know more information about the mower and engine I'd only be guessing. To be honest though, they try to remove as much as possible from the engine after it's tested at the factory. There should have been at most 3 ounces of oil in it. How much oil did you put into the engine? It might be overfilled?
@@HomeGaragechannel So i bought it from someone as used, tho it was fairly new, but the person already filled it with oil. Because it was delivered to me upside down the oil must have done some damage and it doesnt run smooth now..
Hello, My friend brought me a Murray E450 saying that it runs for a minute and then die and also gasoline coming out of carburetor, I replaced the carburetor and the spark plug and still cutting off and still leaking gas, I install a shut off valve so i dont waste the gas. Do you have any advice? Thank you for your time and info
First question ,is did you replace the carb with a new one, OR a used one? And the second question is
does the mower shake when running?
@@HomeGaragechannel I put a new carburetor and spark plug, is not running smooth, it idle low, after it die I checked the spark plug and is wet with gas.
Thank you for your reply
have you checked the valve lash?
@@HomeGaragechannel This is what I found, I took the new carburetor apart and check the needle on the float, the point in the needle looked kind small, I compared with the one in the old carburetor and the old one have a bigger point, so I put the old needle on the new carburetor and now is running good.
Thanks for your reply
Is oil leaking from the exhaust a sign of a bad exhaust/intake valve?
it leaking a bit a the head gasket, I tightened the bolts later on. good eye
no not at all you spent a good amount of time and money in dough to insure a trouble free machine and yep some minor fixes makes it more selling-worthy for sure etc no worries and very similar to our Victa 2 stroke aka 2 cycle P/T (Power Torque) engines we have here etc.
nice thank you for letting us know about the Victa
May i suggest for people to try to get a new OEM carb if the ultra sonic cleaner doesnt fix the carb.. The knock off carbs have about a 70% success rate on being good. Theres almost allways something wrong with the cheap carbs.
I was able to find the OEM carb, but at $53 before taxes I'd take a 70% success rate any day. Beside the carb I bought was $13.
@@HomeGaragechannel you got one of the 70% good ones then lol
that blue smoke probably indicates worn rings 🤔
there was oil in the muffler
@@HomeGaragechannel oh ok 😅
Didn't waste time at all,it's your hobbies,you can turn a good little profit over time
you are correct about that
No matter how they try to dress it up it’s still just an MTD tinkertoy!
you are correct
Blue smoke is whatever you can use use motor oil in a mower and it will last for decades.
yes it will
When i read that the mower was leaking gas, my first thought was it was wasting money. Not safety hazard.
edit: If they expect me to pay more than 150$ for a used mower, i will just use it till it dies and then i will buy a new one.
agreed
Why not getting a set of new gasket for the carb? If it leaks it's just that... Maybe the new carb is cheap, but I think new gaskets are cheaper...
the reason is because the price difference is so small it make more senes to get a working carb for $13 then a rebuild kit for $10.
@@HomeGaragechannel Oh, ok, clear. I thought there is much more difference (like 30$ vs 10$). Thanks
Not to many dollars for that mower. Is the rope stop missing near the pull starter head. That will cause the palls to not disengage.
not sure but in the next video I plan on looking into it and getting the last touches done before I sell it.
Why is the success rate of fixing a carburettor that low? Clean, replace seats, membranes ect. Seems simple, but why does that fail so often?
the low success rate was for just the seat replacement, 25% no leak, and the rest , was some leakage which is no good in my book.
$25 to fix this mower is cheap.
I know right!
That is not a great idea for The mower wasting high priced gas ⛽
Maybe
Scrap it. It’s not worth the time!
makes sense